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post #2941 of 7863
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

I (and I think most) connect the DVR to an AVR, and that to the Darblet and then display.     [And I also have a Radiance in the chain, between the AVR and Darb.]    I.e., all sources (which are only a Comcast DVR and a BD player) go into an AVR, then to the Radiance (if you have something like this), then Darb, then display.

I am asking this because going from the DVR to the AVR and then Darblet does not work, no picture just green screen. I thought I would try the other way to see what happens. I know someone in this thread uses a DCX-3400 so I wanted to know how they have it set up.
post #2942 of 7863
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 4 View Post

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Originally Posted by janice805 View Post

Started to order for $269 but the total ended up being over $289. I guess they charged me Calif. State Tax. Amazon doesn't do that. Before I hit the button to order, is this correct?

You are buying it from an Amazon vendor store and they are required to charge you sales tax if they are located in your state. AV Science Sales is located in NY and CA, so we are required to charge sales tax in those two states. It has been reported to me that Amazon has now agreed to charge sa;es tax for delivery into any state that hhas a sales tax. I don't know when this starts.

Several stores are selling the Darblet through Amazon, but they have raised their prices quite a bit above our $269 US shipping included. Even if you live in NY or CA, you would probably end up paying us a less totalplus you would be supporting an AC Science forum sponser. smile.gif


WE HAVE PLENTY IN STOCK NOW FOR ALL. smile.gif

How would I know if my order shipped? I spoke to Mike on Wednesday & noticed my CC was charged today, but haven't received a confirmatory email.

I live in The Bronx NYC & my 1st name is Joseph

Thanks

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post #2943 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Jay5298 View Post

Question for those using a DCX-3400 DVR. Are you connected directly from the DVR into the Darbee out to the display? or are you going to an AVR first and then to the Darbee? I haven't tried going directly from the DVR to the Darbee, to display yet, mainly because of the hassle of reconnecting cables. As some of you may know finding a RNG-200 is very difficult. I called Comcast and they are going to send another DVR, but they don't know which model it will be. So in the meantime I guess I will try and hook it up without the receiver and see what happens. I hope a solution is found for this model DVR, because it will be a pain to keep going around to my rack and reconnecting cables to watch TV, (if this solution works).


If it helps, my setup: Darbee is connected to the hdmi out from my Pioneer VSX-03TXH receiver to my Pionner Kuro 8th gen PRO-110FD. Into the receiver are Oppo 93, Comcast/Moto DVR DCX3400, Apple TV. Easy setup, no hanshake issues.
post #2944 of 7863
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Originally Posted by kinglm View Post

If it helps, my setup: Darbee is connected to the hdmi out from my Pioneer VSX-03TXH receiver to my Pionner Kuro 8th gen PRO-110FD. Into the receiver are Oppo 93, Comcast/Moto DVR DCX3400, Apple TV. Easy setup, no hanshake issues.

Well, that's interesting, mine won't work at all. I guess I will wait and see what they send me and go from there.
post #2945 of 7863
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

Mine came from NY via USPS Priority and came in 2 days after it was shipped.
*Depending on your US Postal Service in your area, you may get it sooner or later but I believe they try to make the 3 day delivery on USPS Priority.

Of course, even though they are in stock, it doesn't look like they are actually being sent out the door yet. I know USPS tracking isn't great by any means, but it does, almost 100% of the time, at least tell you when it really went into their hands. Two days ago I got my shipping notification (it is the middle of the night right now) and it still hasn't shipped. frown.gif
post #2946 of 7863
Nick,

I recently got a package via USPS and the tracking was absolutely miserable.

I wouldn't rely on it as any indication of what's going on.
post #2947 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Jay5298 View Post

I am asking this because going from the DVR to the AVR and then Darblet does not work, no picture just green screen. I thought I would try the other way to see what happens. I know someone in this thread uses a DCX-3400 so I wanted to know how they have it set up.

No idea if it might help, but I was getting the "green screen" on my setup, BDT300/Dish722>>>3X1 Switch>>>Epson 6010. I could cycle my hdmi switch and it would go away. During trouble shooting, I found that after reinitiating handshakes, while the darby was set to "no darby", (no processing), that a good handshake was made. No more green screen on pj startup after that.
post #2948 of 7863
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

Just got my darblet from Mike Garrett here at AVS. Thanks Mike!!!. How do I switch off the Darbee?????. I used the remote as well as the on/off switch on the unit and it doesn't seem to switch off----light still on.
atabea

DD stated that it was fine to leave the power on/connected, the off switch just stops the processing mode. Some people are turning it off with power strip devices, but well ventilated it's fine to be plugged in/powered continuously.
post #2949 of 7863
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

Just got my darblet from Mike Garrett here at AVS. Thanks Mike!!!. Yes, shipping to Canada was successful although I had to pay the dreaded Canadian taxes upon delivery. I only had time to watch one movie (blu ray-Fifth Element) and I have to agree with most in this thread; the Darbee does make a very real and satisfying difference, without messing with all the other picture/video aspects such as contrast, colour, brightness, black level etc. I am looking forward to spending some quality time with the darbee in the next few days. BTW, my setup is: Panasonic BDT210 to Anthem MRX500 to Darblet and then to JVC X30. Setup was smooth and quick. Had one brief moment of video loss followed by a spontaneous darbee factory reset. After I switched back to HD 45, I didn' have any other issues. This little toy is definitely a keeper. One quick question though: How do I switch off the Darbee?????. I used the remote as well as the on/off switch on the unit and it doesn't seem to switch off----light still on.
atabea

Take a peek at the User Guide, available from our home page.

http://darbeevision.com/assets/documents/DarbeeVision%20Darblet%20User%20Guide%2020120426a.pdf

The Darblet does not have a power On/Off switch. It powers On/Off by plugging it in or removing from power source.

The "Darbee ON/OFF" button is for turning the DVP processing On/Off, not for powering the device On/Off.

The lights will stay on, however you can dim or turn off the LEDs by going into the Menu and changing the settings for the LED brightness.

-DD
post #2950 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

I set it and forget it at Hi Def 45%. It would drive me nuts to fiddle with the settings movie by movie. 45% seems to work well for everything.

I'd like to keep it at 45% and forget about it, but when I see something that would benefit from tweaking, I can't help myself. wink.gif

Just watched Battleship which was a good example of the over-processed, high contrast look where I prefer a lower setting. 35% still had a nice subtle improvement, while staying true to the souce.
post #2951 of 7863
4K blu ray has been announced for 2013... I now have Darblet anxiety... will it be ready for the 4k sources or will we have to go cold turkey without it?!
post #2952 of 7863
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Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

Take a peek at the User Guide, available from our home page.
http://darbeevision.com/assets/documents/DarbeeVision%20Darblet%20User%20Guide%2020120426a.pdf

-DD

When are you going to update the User Guide to reflect the changes made with current firmware?
post #2953 of 7863
I am saving for a new TV and thinking about getting this before the price goes up. Question is, my current TV is an old Sony LCD RPTV. Would the Darbee have any effect on this TV since it has such poor contrast? Should I just wait until I have a new TV before buying the Darbee?
post #2954 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Jay5298 View Post

Well, that's interesting, mine won't work at all. I guess I will wait and see what they send me and go from there.

are you sure you have it hooked up from the receiver to darbee input and your tv to the darbee output? No defective hdmi cables?
post #2955 of 7863
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Originally Posted by gene9p View Post

are you sure you have it hooked up from the receiver to darbee input and your tv to the darbee output? No defective hdmi cables?

Everything is hooked up correctly, no bad cables. I haven't really troubleshooted it as much as I would like. If the new DVR works then I know it's the DCX-3400 that is the problem in my chain.
post #2956 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Jay5298 View Post

Everything is hooked up correctly, no bad cables. I haven't really troubleshooted it as much as I would like. If the new DVR works then I know it's the DCX-3400 that is the problem in my chain.

I could not get the 3400 or 3416 box to work with the Darblet. The RNG200 was not in stock at my local Comcast store, but the RNG110 was, and it worked fine.

However, the RNG110 is a High Def box only, no DVR (unsure about the RNG200). I have two other DVR's on flat panel TV's that I use for regular programming. I don't watch TV on my projector system, other than sports. And I don't DVR sports, because generally if I know the outcome, I don't have much desire watch an event.
Edited by Jive Turkey - 8/31/12 at 7:17am
post #2957 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Mark_H View Post

4K blu ray has been announced for 2013... I now have Darblet anxiety... will it be ready for the 4k sources or will we have to go cold turkey without it?!

Cold turkey for processing a 4K stream. See the specs in the manual. Its a question of chip availability and chip cost.
post #2958 of 7863
Had the chance to see the darblet in action last night.

This thing is, as previously stated, a visual miracle.

Started with HTTYD from my Panny bd85k to my Pioneer VSX1020 to the Darblet to my Panny ae4000 (which I have calibrated with ChromaPure and X-rite Display 3 PRO). My screen is 93" wide for 2.35 and the front row is about 8' from the screen.

Everything worked immediately- no issues. Once I adjusted the setting on the Darblet down to 50% HD mode, the results were more than stunning to my eyes. I thought the image looked good before, but the results with the Darblet engaged are obvious and the enhavements to the image are easily perceived with a nice increased in clarity, depth, and sharpness. It has been said that this seems more like a focus adjustment and I coudn't agree more. I also viewed scenes from Pirates 1, Pirates 3, and Star Trek (Abrams). Each film benefited from the Darblet in obvious and pleasing ways. I ultimately settled on 45% HD as my set-it-and-forget-it preference.

The real kick to the face comes when- after you have been watching with the Darblet engaged for a time- you turn the Darblet OFF. I literally thought to myself, "Was the image really THAT out of focus before??" It is truly amazing.

I feel my projector has been upgraded and I couldn't be happier with the results. I cannot understand why anyone would not want this enhancement to their viewing experience.

AWESOME product.
post #2959 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey View Post

I could not get the 3400 or 3416 box to work with the Darblet. The RNG200 was not in stock at my local Comcast store, but the RNG110 was, and it worked fine.
However, the RNG110 is a High Def box only, no DVR (unsure about the RNG200). I have two other DVR's on flat panel TV's that I use for regular programming. I don't watch TV on my projector system, other than sports. And I don't DVR sports, because generally if I know the outcome, I don't have much desire watch an event.
Did you get this message on your screen "The HD content protection of your repeater has been compromised. All devices connected to the repeater will not be authorized to receive video over the digital link." This message appeared as a blue box on my screen with white lettering.
post #2960 of 7863
^^ Wow. "Step away from your viewing area hands in the air....the SWAT team will be there shortly" biggrin.gif
post #2961 of 7863
^ ^ ^ Homeland Security badge show on the screen?
post #2962 of 7863
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

^ ^ ^ Homeland Security badge show on the screen?

Ok, Ok, very funny. smile.gif
post #2963 of 7863
4K in the home is pretty much a waste for a majority of the world, adoption will be very slow. Think about how many people STILL don't have blu-ray yet. I had to tell my sister that she should buy a blu-ray player (will be her first) and not some crappy dvd player. I mean she has a new 55" LED TV, but still has no blu-ray.

I am sure that the Darblet will be VERY usable for many years to come. If you want to blow your money next year on ultra-pricey 4K options, then a $269 (soon to be $299) Darblet is mere pennies compared to the cost of the display, players, and media, so you won't miss the money. tongue.gif
post #2964 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Jay5298 View Post

Did you get this message on your screen "The HD content protection of your repeater has been compromised. All devices connected to the repeater will not be authorized to receive video over the digital link." This message appeared as a blue box on my screen with white lettering.

My experience is a bit different. I have a bedroom TV connected to the composite video out of my living room DirecTv DVR and when I try to view any of the premium channels I get a stupid content protection warning when the Samsung connected to the DVR HDMI output is turned off (I don't understand how this saves us from stealing HD on the composite video output but I digress). For the hell of it I tried inserting the Darbee between that DVR and the 40" Samsung LCD it drives. Bingo, the content protection warning no longer appears. Somehow the DirecTv is satisfied that the "display" is HDCP compliant when the Darbee is in the chain....this may have something to do with the fact that the Darbee doesn't turn off....

On another note, I see definite improvements in PQ on that 40" Samsung LCD TV when the Darbee is in the path (I sit about 8' away). It's not as apparent as it is on my projected RS55 image but it is noticeable. I do have to crank up the level some more on the Samsung but on this TV I prefer the POP mode at about 45%.

In summary the Darbee helps the PQ on the 40" set and it mitigates the content protection issue on the bedroom TV so it kills two birds with one stone. Now all I have to do is decide if I want to buy a 2nd unit now or wait until I buy the eventual replacement model (if and when they make one) so I can move my existing unit to the 40" Samsung.
post #2965 of 7863
I have the Darbee and the Lumagen mini-3D. At this point, I have placed the Darbee before the Lumagen in the HDMI chain:

OPPO 93 => Darbee => Lumagen => JVC RS40

I was thinking this would be the right Darbee position in the chain, as I am doing Gamma and Color adjusments on the Lumagen, and I understand the Darbee makes changes to Gamma on a pixel by pixel basis.

Reading this thread, I see most people have positioned it after the Video Processor. Can anybody please comment why they are doing this, and if this would provide the best results ?

OPPO 93 => Lumagen => Darbee => JVC RS40

Thank you all for your support !!!.
post #2966 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Geof View Post

My experience is a bit different. I have a bedroom TV connected to the composite video out of my living room DirecTv DVR and when I try to view any of the premium channels I get a stupid content protection warning when the Samsung connected to the DVR HDMI output is turned off (I don't understand how this saves us from stealing HD on the composite video output but I digress). For the hell of it I tried inserting the Darbee between that DVR and the 40" Samsung LCD it drives. Bingo, the content protection warning no longer appears. Somehow the DirecTv is satisfied that the "display" is HDCP compliant when the Darbee is in the chain....this may have something to do with the fact that the Darbee doesn't turn off....
On another note, I see definite improvements in PQ on that 40" Samsung LCD TV when the Darbee is in the path (I sit about 8' away). It's not as apparent as it is on my projected RS55 image but it is noticeable. I do have to crank up the level some more on the Samsung but on this TV I prefer the POP mode at about 45%.
In summary the Darbee helps the PQ on the 40" set and it mitigates the content protection issue on the bedroom TV so it kills two birds with one stone. Now all I have to do is decide if I want to buy a 2nd unit now or wait until I buy the eventual replacement model (if and when they make one) so I can move my existing unit to the 40" Samsung.

My question is what is the "repeater?" Is it the Darbee, or the DVR? I have a RNG-200 upstairs in my living room and this DVR is supposed to be a "any room DVR" which means I can record something on it and watch it in another room. Could the RNG-200 be the culprit giving me this message downstairs? It seems to me that there is a setting somewhere that needs to be changed.
post #2967 of 7863
When I switch inputs, I get a flash of the magenta screen. I thought this was specific to the Darbee/Lumagen combo pack. But I'm not using any external VP. Any thoughts on how to make this go away?
post #2968 of 7863
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Originally Posted by afss View Post

I have the Darbee and the Lumagen mini-3D. At this point, I have placed the Darbee before the Lumagen in the HDMI chain:
OPPO 93 => Darbee => Lumagen => JVC RS40
I was thinking this would be the right Darbee position in the chain, as I am doing Gamma and Color adjusments on the Lumagen, and I understand the Darbee makes changes to Gamma on a pixel by pixel basis.
Reading this thread, I see most people have positioned it after the Video Processor. Can anybody please comment why they are doing this, and if this would provide the best results ?
OPPO 93 => Lumagen => Darbee => JVC RS40
Thank you all for your support !!!.


The standard recommendation is to have the Darb as the last item in the chain before the pj, the idea being that all std calibration, etc., is done as usual, and then the Darb does its thing on top of this.

 

But why don't you try it both ways--i.e., the way you have it and with the Darb placed after the Lumagen--to see if you see any difference, and if so, which you like better?

post #2969 of 7863
Yep. I am just really impressed. I feel like I just got a new new pair of eye glasses.
LOVE this thing.
post #2970 of 7863
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post


The standard recommendation is to have the Darb as the last item in the chain before the pj, the idea being that all std calibration, etc., is done as usual, and then the Darb does its thing on top of this.

But why don't you try it both ways--i.e., the way you have it and with the Darb placed after the Lumagen--to see if you see any difference, and if so, which you like better?

Thanks for the prompt reply. Re-cabling it is a pain, but I guess you are right. I have to try both options and decide for myself !
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