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post #301 of 7863
Larry,

is there any progress on the demo videos for download ?
post #302 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJayB View Post

I was having a handshake issue with my Cox DVR and the Darblet has actually totally eliminated the problem. Just one more reason I'm a true fan.

Cable length should not be a problem. I'm running a short Monoprice HDMI 3x1 pigtail switch in and 9' HDMI cable out to my display but also tried a 9' cable in as well without a problem.

Thanks, good info!
post #303 of 7863
Here are the hex codes in pronto format I am using in irule. It is very hard to get working it is close but still not perfect sometimes you have to push a button twice to make it work. I had to set the repetition to 77 to get it working almost perfect.

darbee on/off

pronto
0000 006C 0000 000B 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0044 0069 0023 0069 0023 0046 0023 0046 0023 0023 0023 0023 0088 0045 02F0

global cache format
sendir,:,1,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,68,105,35,105,35,70,35,70,35,35,35, 35,136,69,752



darbee more

pronto
0000 006C 0000 000B 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0044 0023 0044 0069 0023 0023 0022 0023 0022 0046 0023 0046 0023 0069 0088 0045 02F0

gc format
sendir,:,2,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,68,35,68,105,35,35,34,35,34,70,35,70,35,1 05,136,69,752

darbee less

pronto
0000 006C 0000 000A 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 0046 0045 0046 0023 0046 0023 0023 00CC 0045 02F1

gc format
sendir,:,3,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,70,69,70,35,70,35,35,204, 69,753

menu

pronto format
0000 006C 0000 000A 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 0023 0067 0046 0023 0046 0023 0046 00AA 0045 02F2

gc format
sendir,:,6,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,35,103,70,35,70,35,70,170 ,69,754

hidef

pronto format
0000 006C 0000 000B 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 008C 0023 0023 0023 0046 0023 0023 0023 0069 0044 0045 02F2

gc format
sendir,:,7,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,140,35,35,35,70,35,35,35, 105,68,69,754

gaming

pronto format
0000 006C 0000 000B 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 0023 0023 0046 0023 0023 0023 0046 0023 00AF 0044 0045 02F1

gc format
sendir,:,8,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,35,35,70,35,35,35,70,35,1 75,68,69,753

full pop

pronto format
0000 006C 0000 000C 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 0046 0023 0023 0023 0023 0023 0046 0023 0023 0045 0046 0044 0045 02F0

gc format
sendir,:,10,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,70,35,35,35,35,35,70,35,3 5,69,70,68,69,752

demo

pronto format
0000 006C 0000 000C 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 0023 0045 0023 0023 0023 0023 0046 0023 0046 0023 0046 0044 0045 02F1

gc format
sendir,:,9,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,35,69,35,35,35,35,70,35,7 0,35,70,68,69,753
post #304 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by wildchild22 View Post

Here are the hex codes in pronto format I am using in irule. It is very hard to get working it is close but still not perfect sometimes you have to push a button twice to make it work. I had to set the repetition to 77 to get it working almost perfect.

darbee on/off

pronto
0000 006C 0000 000B 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0044 0069 0023 0069 0023 0046 0023 0046 0023 0023 0023 0023 0088 0045 02F0

global cache format
sendir,:,1,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,68,105,35,105,35,70,35,70,35,35,35, 35,136,69,752



darbee more

pronto
0000 006C 0000 000B 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0044 0023 0044 0069 0023 0023 0022 0023 0022 0046 0023 0046 0023 0069 0088 0045 02F0

gc format
sendir,:,2,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,68,35,68,105,35,35,34,35,34,70,35,70,35,1 05,136,69,752

darbee less

pronto
0000 006C 0000 000A 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 0046 0045 0046 0023 0046 0023 0023 00CC 0045 02F1

gc format
sendir,:,3,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,70,69,70,35,70,35,35,204, 69,753

menu

pronto format
0000 006C 0000 000A 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 0023 0067 0046 0023 0046 0023 0046 00AA 0045 02F2

gc format
sendir,:,6,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,35,103,70,35,70,35,70,170 ,69,754

hidef

pronto format
0000 006C 0000 000B 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 008C 0023 0023 0023 0046 0023 0023 0023 0069 0044 0045 02F2

gc format
sendir,:,7,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,140,35,35,35,70,35,35,35, 105,68,69,754

gaming

pronto format
0000 006C 0000 000B 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 0023 0023 0046 0023 0023 0023 0046 0023 00AF 0044 0045 02F1

gc format
sendir,:,8,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,35,35,70,35,35,35,70,35,1 75,68,69,753

full pop

pronto format
0000 006C 0000 000C 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 0046 0023 0023 0023 0023 0023 0046 0023 0023 0045 0046 0044 0045 02F0

gc format
sendir,:,10,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,70,35,35,35,35,35,70,35,3 5,69,70,68,69,752

demo

pronto format
0000 006C 0000 000C 0045 0023 00D2 0023 0023 0045 0023 0045 0069 0023 0023 0045 0023 0023 0023 0023 0046 0023 0046 0023 0046 0044 0045 02F1

gc format
sendir,:,9,38000,,1,69,35,210,35,35,69,35,69,105,35,35,69,35,35,35,35,70,35,7 0,35,70,68,69,753

Did you "learn" these with the GC IR capture or get them from Darbee? If using the IR capture I have found it takes a lot of tweaking in the capture app and re-capture to get the codes right.

Anyway, thanks for doing the work.
post #305 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nudgiator View Post

Just some questions:
3. Is it possible to do a firmware upgrade to the Darbee device ?

This was answered earlier in the thread. The firmware can be upgraded but not by the user. The unit has to be returned to Darbee in California. The user manual indicates there would be a small fee (plus postage, or course).
post #306 of 7863
I learned them using my usb-uirt device.

It has worked on all devices perfectly except this one. I have tried relearning the codes always result in the same codes.

If darbee releases the correct codes I will update my post. I emailed them to get the official codes but never got a response yet.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Glimmie View Post

Did you "learn" these with the GC IR capture or get them from Darbee? If using the IR capture I have found it takes a lot of tweaking in the capture app and re-capture to get the codes right.

Anyway, thanks for doing the work.
post #307 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJayB View Post

The user manual indicates there would be a small fee (plus postage, or course).

Hm, that are bad news. It's too expensive to ship that device from germany to california
post #308 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

So is the Calibrator saying that below 50-80 that there is NO color and gamma shift and above those settings there is?

I ask because we never shift the color vector, nor shift contrast in a global way that could be confused with a gamma modification.

Can you specify the content/media player/display and test equipment and protocol. This is very interesting to us.

-DD

I talked to the ISF calibrator, he will contact you this week to discuss this issue.
post #309 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nudgiator View Post

Just some questions:

1. Is there a video of the Darbee Vision algorithm available I can replay on my Plasma TV / projector ? Fudoh asked about that 3-4 weeks ago.

2. Is there a distributor in germany / europe to order such a device ?

3. Is it possible to do a firmware upgrade to the Darbee device ?

4. Does the device also support a voltage of 220V like usually used in germany ?


1. A new DarbeeVision video sample for website viewing and download will be posted in the near future.

2. We do not have distribution or a dealer in Germany/Europe. As demand builds this will happen.

3. The Darblet is firmware upgradeable by DarbeeVision, not in the field.

4. 220V should be supported by simple adaption of the power plug. Our power supply is compatible up to 240V.

-DD
post #310 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by blb1215 View Post

I was referring to the AVS store. I though they were only available through distributors now.

Thanks,
Barry

Items can only be purchased from the AV Science store when they are in stock and immediately shippable. Calling an AV Science sales team member is the best way to order. Unlike the store, an order can be placed immediately with them and they have the latest info including any stock immediately shippable but not yet available from the web store.
post #311 of 7863
I have a heavily modded 9500lc with new tubes, HDMI 1.3 input, and 86" wide 16:9 as well as 112" 2.35 screen. With crt's having low MTF, I would think a moderate setting would work well.

Anyone want to take a guess or better yet have first hand experience with the Darbee and CRT?
post #312 of 7863
I should be getting mine any day. Does it matter if I put it next to my processor before my 40 foot hdmi run to the display, or right next to the projector after the run?
post #313 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

I should be getting mine any day. Does it matter if I put it next to my processor before my 40 foot hdmi run to the display, or right next to the projector after the run?


DarbeeDr
Member

Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by flint350

One question I have is about installation position in the video chain. I have a long hidden ceiling run of 50' of high quality HDMI 1.4a cable from the equipment room AVR to the projector. Any guesses on whether it would be best to connect the Darbee at the AVR via a short cable and then to the long 50' cable to the projector - vs - connect right at the projector at the end of the 50' cable and then a short connect directly to the projector? In other words, closer to the source or closer to the projector (based on the effect of the long cable).


The Darblet appreciates the best signal and will not degrade the signal. So put it at the end closest to the source to give it the best chance of doing the most good. We have tested with long "active" cables that have built in signal processing for maintaining quality, and we are perfectly compatible.
-DD
post #314 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by RonF View Post


DarbeeDr
Member

Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by flint350

One question I have is about installation position in the video chain. I have a long hidden ceiling run of 50' of high quality HDMI 1.4a cable from the equipment room AVR to the projector. Any guesses on whether it would be best to connect the Darbee at the AVR via a short cable and then to the long 50' cable to the projector - vs - connect right at the projector at the end of the 50' cable and then a short connect directly to the projector? In other words, closer to the source or closer to the projector (based on the effect of the long cable).

The Darblet appreciates the best signal and will not degrade the signal. So put it at the end closest to the source to give it the best chance of doing the most good. We have tested with long "active" cables that have built in signal processing for maintaining quality, and we are perfectly compatible.
-DD

Thank you! I missed that somehow...
post #315 of 7863
Just received my Darbee today......all I can say is that "it is totally worth the price." I put it in the chain between my AVR and my projector and the result was immediate.

Also, A big thanks to Mike Garrett of AVS for his insight on this product!
post #316 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by BFI6603 View Post

Just received my Darbee today......all I can say is that "it is totally worth the price." I put it in the chain between my AVR and my projector and the result was immediate.

Also, A big thanks to Mike Garrett of AVS for his insight on this product!

What display device are you using?

Maybe it would be good if everyone who gets one of these devices just quickly lists what their display is. That way people with similar equipment can see how others have faired.

I mean, I have a JVC RS45 projector, while someone else may say that they saw a small improvement (or large one), maybe that was with a plasma tv, or LCD projector, or some other technology that doesn't compare to what I personally have. Just a thought. A full equipment listing wouldn't be needed, just the display.
post #317 of 7863
big,huge difference
8 feet wide 2:40:1
jvc rs1

medium difference
on my 50 inch plasma
post #318 of 7863
I will get mine tomorrow thanks Mark for getting this quick.
I had a RS55 and Lumagen XD. Will test on Friday.
I also had a 8yr old 720p Hitachi Ultravision Plasma, so I will test that as well.
post #319 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glimmie View Post

If using the IR capture I have found it takes a lot of tweaking in the capture app and re-capture to get the codes right.

This could be the issue. I had no problem learning the codes to my MX-980.
post #320 of 7863
My Darblet showed up today and assumed its position in my AV chain without protest or issue.

The effect is most positive with good sources output to a Panny PT-7000 projector.
post #321 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Funny, in my experience, most of the people on that site's forum are more concerned with whether a disc comes with a slipcover than what it looks like.

LoL That is true, but when i said bluray forum, i meant avs very own bluray forum.

I would not care what blu-ray.com forum had to say.
post #322 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdjam View Post

If you want strictly accuracy to what the source was encoded as, then you are pretty much are out of luck in regards to most of the video enhancement gear. Their whole purpose is to modify the picture, to give you something more pleasing.

The Darbee will change your picture too, as you turn it on, you can see your image change visibly, for the better.

The interesting thing is that Dr Darbee has said that it does not modify the chroma (colors) but rather just the luma channel (brightness) for each pixel.

I think that makes it an easy shoe-in for most people who are concerned about accuracy.

I'm using it with a number of sources, including Bluray.

No i do use vp's for deinterlacing, color calibration, i use my flea for noise reduction. The only noise reduction i have found that reduces noise without detail loss at low levels.

What i dont like is something that create an artificial or unrealistic looking image or something that adds in negative picture attributes such as noise or ringing. With that said, I may actually try one, i have been visiting this area for years, and i guess this is no vp, but might be worth trying.
post #323 of 7863
hi, it can accept 1080p48 input signal?

thanks
post #324 of 7863
Mine´s leaving Smarthome June 1st for $ 249, plus shipping to the Netherlands.
I prefer AVS Science but they don't take preorders, and I can't phone 0800.
Shame you yanks upped the $ a bit...or did somebody down the Euro
Can´t wait to play with it!

Hope the correct Pronto hex codes will show up some day!
But thanks to wildchild22: will certainly try your set!

DISPLAY:
Samsung UE55D6200 fed through a dvdo Edge.
Will place it between these two.
post #325 of 7863
Got my darbelt adn eagerly put it in the chain:

Lumagen XD>darblet>Mits WD73833 (HDMI4)

I had the Mits HDMI 4 input expertly calibrated by ChadB a few years ago and it threw a pretty good picture so I was expecting great things with the litlle d in the chain but when I fired up the darblet - all hell broke loose!

The picture was all blown out, colors over saturated and in torch mode. I confirmed that the darblet was on and checked to see if it was on pop mode at 120%. It was on, at 25% in the HD mode. I still suspected that the darblet had done something drastic to the signal but when I checked my Mits settings, all had been reset to factory default -all my calibrated settings gone.

And even stranger the Mits had switched from HDMI input 4 to something called AVR even though the hdmi cable was still feeding HDMI 4. When I brought up the MITS input menu - I can't even see the AVR input as a choice.

So in panic I power down the darblet, take it out of the chain and feed the MITS straight from the Lumagen (the normal configuration that has worked beautifully the past 4 years) and nothing but snow. The Mits had switched to and antenna input. After powering down all components several times I finally got the Mits to accept the Lumagen signal on HDMI 4 and recognize the input as hdmi 4 but my calibrated settings are still gone.

I tried for several hours to get the darblet configuration (even with the other 3 Mits hdmi inputs) to work but kept getting the same results -so I'm at a lost.

Any ideas Darbee Dr? Anyone?
post #326 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmassie View Post

Got my darbelt adn eagerly put it in the chain:

Lumagen XD>darblet>Mits WD73833 (HDMI4)

I had the Mits HDMI 4 input expertly calibrated by ChadB a few years ago and it threw a pretty good picture so I was expecting great things with the litlle d in the chain but when I fired up the darblet - all hell broke loose!

The picture was all blown out, colors over saturated and in torch mode. I confirmed that the darblet was on and checked to see if it was on pop mode at 120%. It was on, at 25% in the HD mode. I still suspected that the darblet had done something drastic to the signal but when I checked my Mits settings, all had been reset to factory default -all my calibrated settings gone.

And even stranger the Mits had switched from HDMI input 4 to something called AVR even though the hdmi cable was still feeding HDMI 4. When I brought up the MITS input menu - I can't even see the AVR input as a choice.

So in panic I power down the darblet, take it out of the chain and feed the MITS straight from the Lumagen (the normal configuration that has worked beautifully the past 4 years) and nothing but snow. The Mits had switched to and antenna input. After powering down all components several times I finally got the Mits to accept the Lumagen signal on HDMI 4 and recognize the input as hdmi 4 but my calibrated settings are still gone.

I tried for several hours to get the darblet configuration (even with the other 3 Mits hdmi inputs) to work but kept getting the same results -so I'm at a lost.

Any ideas Darbee Dr? Anyone?

My Radiance is configured to output YCbCr 4:2:2 and my JVC RS60 was hard-coded to accept the same color space. The colors were way off when the Darblet was first inserted between those two devices. Changing the RS60's color space setting from YCbCr 4:2:2 to "Auto" resolved the wonky color issue.

Other than that, the Darblet shouldn't have caused the other symptoms you describe, especially after you removed it from the video chain. Leave the Darblet out of your system until you sort out the other issues. Connect the Radiance to the same input on the Mits that it used to be in (HDMI 4). Ensure that the Radiance is set to the proper output mode (1A ?) and output resolution. The Mits calibration might not apply to every input or for every resolution. For example, if your set was calibrated on Input 4 at 1080P resolution, I don't know if your set holds that calibration if you switch to HDMI 3 or if your Radiance is now outputting 480i. Perhaps the Mits calibration would "disappear" if the color space was changed? Try switching the Radiance output between YCbCr and RGB to see if that makes a difference. Power cycling the Mits might help. In any case, it's not a Darblet issue if you're still having problems when it's disconnected. Good luck!
post #327 of 7863
Are any exhibitors going to be using the Darbee at T.H.E. show in Newport Beach this weekend?
post #328 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmassie View Post

Got my darbelt adn eagerly put it in the chain:

Lumagen XD>darblet>Mits WD73833 (HDMI4)

I had the Mits HDMI 4 input expertly calibrated by ChadB a few years ago and it threw a pretty good picture so I was expecting great things with the litlle d in the chain but when I fired up the darblet - all hell broke loose!

The picture was all blown out, colors over saturated and in torch mode. I confirmed that the darblet was on and checked to see if it was on pop mode at 120%. It was on, at 25% in the HD mode. I still suspected that the darblet had done something drastic to the signal but when I checked my Mits settings, all had been reset to factory default -all my calibrated settings gone.

And even stranger the Mits had switched from HDMI input 4 to something called AVR even though the hdmi cable was still feeding HDMI 4. When I brought up the MITS input menu - I can't even see the AVR input as a choice.

So in panic I power down the darblet, take it out of the chain and feed the MITS straight from the Lumagen (the normal configuration that has worked beautifully the past 4 years) and nothing but snow. The Mits had switched to and antenna input. After powering down all components several times I finally got the Mits to accept the Lumagen signal on HDMI 4 and recognize the input as hdmi 4 but my calibrated settings are still gone.

I tried for several hours to get the darblet configuration (even with the other 3 Mits hdmi inputs) to work but kept getting the same results -so I'm at a lost.

Any ideas Darbee Dr? Anyone?

I am very sorry to hear about your challenges, I am also sending you an email separately. Our technical/engineering team will review in detail. You are experiencing a myriad of problems that do not sound like they could be related to putting our hardware/firmware in the chain. Stay tuned.
-DD
post #329 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jive Turkey View Post

Are any exhibitors going to be using the Darbee at T.H.E. show in Newport Beach this weekend?

Do not have any exhibitors there with a Darblet that I know of. You know anyone that will be exhibiting there?
-DD
post #330 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

Do not have any exhibitors there with a Darblet that I know of. You know anyone that will be exhibiting there?
-DD

I don't. I might suggest that you check the list of exhibitors on T.H.E. Show, Newport Beach website. Maybe you come across someone in the Industry you know and could call. It'd be a good place to show it off. There'll be a lot of geeks like me there.
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