Darbee vision darblet - Page 103

Zing.....it went flying right over.....my bad, indeed it does!

Is it ok to leave the darblet plugged in all the time? I'm talking about the elec. plug with the red light (just to clarify).

Yes

-DD

i know how to turn audio pass through on and off on my receiver.
if i pass through or don't process through receiver the sound is fine on the tv.
i have set the receiver to not pass through sound to the tv and process it.
if i process through receiver to get sound out of my surround sound speakers the darblet introduces a stuttering, audio coming on and off that is unbearable.

the cables are fine. as soon as i remove the darblet there is no issue with sound through the receiver.

if i introduce the darblet again to this setup the sound cuts on and off frequently.

is this something DVP is aware of or has any plans to check out? i'm hoping DarbeeDr will chime in on this.

If you purchased one from us, we wil have you return the unit to Darbeevision but will immediately ship you a new one from our stock.

I will pass on the the engineer.

Have you tried power cycling the chain?

The Darblet simply gets all its interop information from the HDMI signal.

Darblet ON first, then Pioner, then display.
Or, try - Darblet ON first, then display, then Pioneer.

The Darblet is designed to pass through audio, we don't process it or delay it.

-DD

So the video will lag the audio by three micro seconds. Once again below the threshold of human perception.

i still do not see how that is physically possible since audio and video is processed in your receiver then output to the darbee via an hdmi output on receiver. Cannot see how it could possibly cause a reverse signal to an output on your receiver from the darbees own input. I could see a possibility, if at all, to the tv speakers but not your HT speakers since your blu ray player goes directly into the receiver.

I'll get my stopwatch out and check it :LOL

Tested for lag and there is none to speak of, 60fps gaming is a non issue.

Jason

3 microseconds or 3 milliseconds?

MICRO

How would the Darbee do between an Integra 80.2 prepro and my Kuro 151

I'm sure it would be just fine. I'm getting one and I have an Integra 40.1 and a JVC RS20....just buy 'and try' it; 30 day money back if it doesn't work thru AVS store......

Count me as a user who has experienced the Darblet resetting itself back to factory settings (100% pop mode, no fine control mode, persistent display, etc.). Mine has the latest (including Lumagen fix) firmware. I turned on the system last night and the Darblet had reset itself (FYI, the Darblet is plugged into a switched outlet between a Lumagen XS and JVC RS-20)... Not exactly the "set it and forget it" experience I would expect from a device like this... more than a little annoying.

I have it between a marantz pre amp and a Kuro 111 and it is great!

Yes, I did purchase it through you guys. I sent an e-mail through your website on Saturday, asking for instructions, after thoroughly troubleshooting. The remote does light up when you press a buttton and look through a digital camera, so it is sending some kind of IR signal, but the unit apparently isn't receiving the signal. Also tried unplugging and then plugging it back in, to no avail.

I don't have a receiver that will accept HDMI, so if I want to run two sources through the Darblet, I will need a switch between the sources and the Darblet. I was looking at a Kinivo powered switch on Amazon. Any advice on whether this will introduce some losses in the signal and whether it might be noticable?

Brent. Email Darbeevision and request an RMA from them. Send me an email for me to respond to you so I can take this offline. Cedia going on all next week may slow things up a bit. But please send me an email right away and I will communicate more. In order to get a new one out to you on Tuesday when we reopen I will need a CC to secure the shipment but we won't charge it and will cancel it out completely once Darbeevision receives the defective one. Like I say all the Darbee folks will be at Cedia all next week so hopefully they will issue you an RMA before they leave and our shipping office will remain open next week so we can get a new unit out to you on Tuesday.
Edited by AV Science Sales 4 - 9/3/12 at 12:45am

I assume you have the marantz going to your amp and then your speakers.

Are there any audio sync issues with this setup

Can someone quickly confirm that the Darbee absolutely outputs the same color space that goes into it? I ask because I have my Oppo 95 set to Source Direct and 4/4/4 Color Space into my new Panny GT50. The GT and VT 50 models have a function called 1080P Source Direct(which I have enabled and works great). However, the 1080P Source Direct on these Panny models only works with a 4/4/4 Color Space input. So you see, I'd like to continue to take advantage of the 4/4/4 Source Direct and would like any confirmation that the Darbee won't change this config? Thank you for any responses...George

I just watched this movie tonight and started with 45% in HD mode but it looked like it was too contrasty. I turned the Darblet off and it looked great...still very sharp. Then turned the darblet back on and reduced it to 35%. Much better! Still very sharp but more clear of an image and the overly vividness was gone. The scenes in the outskirts of Paris with the Eiffel tower in the background was very realistic looking with the Darblet set to 35%. Darker scenes looked a lot better than 45%.

I did see one magenta flash with this disc but it was during the previews at the beginning. The image was flashing with several scene changes and I saw one quick magenta flash. My setup is Duo to darblet to JVC RS1. 4:4:4 color space used in and out of the darblet. I never saw any flashes during the movie though.

Yes,

See page 51.
Edited by Geof - 9/2/12 at 11:14pm

Yes, I recall similar findings. I was changing the % quite a bit during that flick. Before watching it I had sort of settled on 45% but after that I dialed it back to 40%. I seem to recall liking 35 but I really don't want to Darbee dial for each flick and 40% seemed a reasonable compromise. That said, I'd probably dial it up for flicks like Avatar (I want to try Pop mode with that movie as well).

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet/2130#post_22299743

I had issues with my Kinivo's, tried two, and a monoprice 3X1 enhanced. All powered switches. I think my green image issue was fixed, by initiating the handshakes between my devices, with the darby set to "no darby", (no processing). I ended up keeping the monoprice switch in the chain as it feels like a more robust switch, although some black electricians tape was used to cover the blinding led lights.

I am still having an issue where a bluray menu will only display the middle third of the screen, which requires me to cycle the switch to alleviate that issue. Happened with the kinivo and the monoprice units both. Issue goes away if I remove either the darby, or the switch. You might have better luck with your devices/switch, as most people aren't having issues, with switches in their chain.

Tom Huffman came over tonight to watch the new remaster of Jaws on my Lumagen, Darblet, Sony VPL-vw1000ES chain. For some reason when I switched everything on, the picture was very textured. Turned out the Darblet was set on 120. We quickly cranked it down to 40 and everything was fine. We switched it back and forth from 0 to 40 and the improvement was there.

Source quality, mainly noise in the source, is determinative of how the Darblet can be set.. I do find myself turning it up for live sports and down to say 40 for bluray movies which seems contradictory to the noise thing. But it really does differ. For movies, just set it to where to where you don't notice any enhancement to noise in the picture beyond what you see with the Darbee processing set to 0. Just set it to where you don't see any enhancement to noise. Tom tells me that the Blursay remaster of Jaws is better than seeing the original in a commercial movie theater. On my system it looked simply amazing. Almost like you were there. On the beach, in the water.
Edited by AV Science Sales 4 - 9/3/12 at 8:30am

Pop can at first look very good with Avatar but I still found HD mode better. Detail in the mountain rocks and grass are better defined in HD mode. Pop seems to smudge Or over process the fine detail almost washing it out a little. Just crank up HD mode with that flick.

Yes I noticed that with A Game of Shadows. Even 45% had noticeably more noise in the dark scenes especially. At 35% the noise wasn't noticeable and the overly contrasty image was gone too. I think maybe the noise may trigger that over contrast issue.

I am a uk Darblet owner and love it, we are having a lot of flack over on our avforum from the purists who just don't want to accept the fact that it enhances the image, rather that it destroy's the directors intent (the fools:)) anyway that was not my reason for posting.

I don't know whether this has been mentioned before in the thread, I have read most of it but not all but I want to appeal to Darbee themselves in asking for a small change regards the display box.I have a 16:9 screen with removable 2.35:1 masking, when the screen is masked and I want to change a setting the display box is hidden in the masking so can't be seen and I have to lift the pj slightly to see the displayed settings.

In the setup menu you can have the display left right or centre but this does not help, it would be great if this box could be moved higher as an additional position to help with folks like me ( I imagine there are more of us) I know personally another 3 darblet owners who have this same problem,

So if the powers that be read this can you please help us and provide this small change,unfortunately it won't help me if you do unless it has to come back for a serious fix as it would be to costly to return to you + I would not have it in line to use for a couple of weeks which I could not live with. but I am sure will help others.