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post #3331 of 7856
From over at Blu-ray.com. It's official. There'll be a new Darbee sometime next year.

From AVS at CEDIA.

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We got a chance to check out Darbee's new higher-end image enhancing product for next year, the Fidelio, at CEDIA. Just like the Darblet, the Fidelio can vastly improve upon standard visuals. While it's still a ways off -- a Darbee rep said it'll ship in Q3 of next year -- they had a prototype of it running at the show. As you can see, it's definitely for the higher-end consumer: it has a slick looking video equalizer, a touch-screen user interface, and it's wifi-enabled for downloadable features. Darbee says it'll likely retail in the $2,000 range.

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post #3332 of 7856
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

that story is about 2 days old. There is already another thread for the Darbee Fidelio. wink.gif

Hey Dave!

will check it out
post #3333 of 7856
Does anyone know about when the latest firmware began shipping in the Darblets? I'm wondering if some of the other suppliers have the older firmware in their "in stock" Darblets.
post #3334 of 7856
Has anyone with a late model Pioneer Kuro compared the Darblet to Pioneer's DRE processing? I don't have a Darblet, but most of the Darbee on/off comparison pictures look similar to switching between DRE-Off and DRE-Mid, and although DRE can improve some content, I usually leave it off.

DRE Description: http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/62/63/tech/PlasmaTV/Intelligent_DRE.html
post #3335 of 7856
Very frustrated here. I received my Darblet on Thursday. Opened the sealed box yesterday to find only the Darblet... no power cord, no remote or anything else. Not exactly a good first impression with quality control. And I'm out the extra $ I spent for 2-day delivery as well. Grrrrrrr.
post #3336 of 7856
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Originally Posted by JayF View Post

Very frustrated here. I received my Darblet on Thursday. Opened the sealed box yesterday to find only the Darblet... no power cord, no remote or anything else. Not exactly a good first impression with quality control. And I'm out the extra $ I spent for 2-day delivery as well. Grrrrrrr.

Bummer!!! Who did you order it from? I would request that the seller pay for return shipment plus a full refund including the price you paid for the 2 day delivery!

Very frustrating indeed.
post #3337 of 7856
Noob question. How do you hook up the darblet if you're just watching OTA channels and have no cable/ satellite? I have a Terk HDTVa antenna (no HDMI) that's hooked up to my 2010 Sammy HDTV.
post #3338 of 7856
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

Noob question. How do you hook up the darblet if you're just watching OTA channels and have no cable/ satellite? I have a Terk HDTVa antenna (no HDMI) that's hooked up to my 2010 Sammy HDTV.

you would need at least a dvr such as a channel master or a magnavox 2160 when you don't have a cable or satellite provider. other than that your sol it must be feed a hdmi signal.
post #3339 of 7856
Hi everyone!!! Its been a while since I have posted I hope all of you are doing well. I have been reading all of your posts daily and I am happy that more people are enjoying the Darblet. I just found out about the Darbee Fidelio DrDarbee i want one how do I get on the list?
This is what I wanted to buy initially. The piano finish is not optimal (matte would be better hint hint) but I am so confident on the tech that I am sold. PM me and let me know what to do and when because I am ready when you are. Firmware upgradeable woooohoooo!!! rack mount woooooohooooo!. 3rd quarter 2013 is a long time to wait but you got a definite customer day one. Question for you is this new units processing more powerful than the original Darblet if so in what way? I am completely amped for this unit tongue.gif
post #3340 of 7856
WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO Darbee Fidelio tongue.gif Man I am soooooo ready!!!!! DAY ONE!!!
post #3341 of 7856
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Originally Posted by jdbimmer View Post

Has anyone with a late model Pioneer Kuro compared the Darblet to Pioneer's DRE processing? I don't have a Darblet, but most of the Darbee on/off comparison pictures look similar to switching between DRE-Off and DRE-Mid, and although DRE can improve some content, I usually leave it off.
DRE Description: http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/62/63/tech/PlasmaTV/Intelligent_DRE.html

I have the 9th gen Kuro Elite pro 111fd....the Darbee works great on this tv from Blu rays and Fios tv. I compared some of Kuro options and modes,ISF DAY, NIGHT,pure, cinema,optimum, etc as well as the RGB, 4.4 .4 etc with both the Darbee on and off and all are great with the Darbee off, but turn the Darbee on and it is so much better. I have posted this b4,....For regular tv and Blu rays HD at 55% works best and any animated bluray or telecast,Game at 55%.I f you have a Kuro you should definitely get one or at least try one. My preferred viewing on my Kuro is the ISF day settings.
post #3342 of 7856
Grrrr.... So after 2 successful movies since getting the Darblet (albeit Transformers Dark of the Moon with the Darblet turned on and The Grey with the Darblet turned off due to massive amounts of grain in the original material) we watched a 3rd last night, Mission Impossible... the first one from 1996. With the Darblet on or off, we got occasional split second full "to black" drop-outs of video, a couple full drop-outs to magenta, and one screen with multicolored "snow". Didn't matter if the Darblet was turned on or off. So I had to bi-pass the Darblet and plug the signal straight in to the projector from the receiver.

Now, I am supposed to be packing for my business trip which I leave for around 4:00 am "tonight". I will have to look back through this massive thread to see what others had done/tried, but it is discouraging.

frown.gif

Path is Panasonic BDT210 blu-ray ---> Onkyo 709 receiver ---> Darblet ---> RS45 projector
post #3343 of 7856
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

Grrrr.... So after 2 successful movies since getting the Darblet (albeit Transformers Dark of the Moon with the Darblet turned on and The Grey with the Darblet turned off due to massive amounts of grain in the original material) we watched a 3rd last night, Mission Impossible... the first one from 1996. With the Darblet on or off, we got occasional split second full "to black" drop-outs of video, a couple full drop-outs to magenta, and one screen with multicolored "snow". Didn't matter if the Darblet was turned on or off. So I had to bi-pass the Darblet and plug the signal straight in to the projector from the receiver.
Now, I am supposed to be packing for my business trip which I leave for around 4:00 am "tonight". I will have to look back through this massive thread to see what others had done/tried, but it is discouraging.

frown.gif
Path is Panasonic BDT210 blu-ray ---> Onkyo 709 receiver ---> Darblet ---> RS45 projector

Yeah, I saw the 'snow' issue as well with my Pansonic BT500 Blu Ray player however it was only on the home screen and when playing internet streaming or standard def. DVDs. Blu Ray discs did not give me the problem.

Maybe there is some incompatibility with Panasonic Blu Ray players and the Darbee?

Methinks this device is not really ready for prime time so to speak.
post #3344 of 7856
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Originally Posted by gene9p View Post

I have the 9th gen Kuro Elite pro 111fd....the Darbee works great on this tv from Blu rays and Fios tv. I compared some of Kuro options and modes,ISF DAY, NIGHT,pure, cinema,optimum, etc as well as the RGB, 4.4 .4 etc with both the Darbee on and off and all are great with the Darbee off, but turn the Darbee on and it is so much better. I have posted this b4,....For regular tv and Blu rays HD at 55% works best and any animated bluray or telecast,Game at 55%.I f you have a Kuro you should definitely get one or at least try one. My preferred viewing on my Kuro is the ISF day settings.

I agree. I use the Darblet on the PRO-111 and it works amazingly. However, I still choose HD 80% for my catch-all setting (I don't watch animation on this TV)
post #3345 of 7856
Guess what. My AC adapter came apart as well. There is a very tiny screw with a wafer like plastic screw hole that keeps both parts of the case together. Not the best design. It snapped together ok but like you, I have returned mine as well. I was simply unplugging it from the outlet. " Good Grief Charlie Brown." eek.gif
post #3346 of 7856
i know everybody is stating a 30 day return policy when ordered through the AV store,but on their website and even the pdf return policy i got states only 15 days. is the 30 day a special darbee event only? Mark or anybody could you enlighten me on this. thx.....
post #3347 of 7856
Anyone use the darblet with samsung 55 8500 LED?After watching a number of sd dvds I found the setting at Gaming 46 to be the best for this display.My set is calibrated and i always watched cal night setting in a dark room since cal day always had a light film over picture.The darblet removes that light veil over the cal day picture and im finding that calibrated setting has so much more pop to the pq that it is now my setting for all sd dvds.
post #3348 of 7856
My experiment to conceal the Darblet by using an IR extender has failed. The response to IR commands was intermittent, and slow. When I press a button on my remote, I want 100% success and instant response. Unfortunately, the IR extender performance did not meet these expectations. I have now exposed the Darblet and once again enjoy responsive remote commands.
post #3349 of 7856
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Originally Posted by JAKEMON View Post

Guess what. My AC adapter came apart as well. There is a very tiny screw with a wafer like plastic screw hole that keeps both parts of the case together. Not the best design. It snapped together ok but like you, I have returned mine as well. I was simply unplugging it from the outlet. " Good Grief Charlie Brown." eek.gif

I've literally seen better components (speaking of everything included; AC adapter, unit case, remote) on kids toys and dollar store items.

The Darblet really does not instill a sense of quality workmanship in any way.

If it was $50. I may be able to live with the hardware faults if everything else worked fine with it (which it did not for me), but definitely not at $300.

I will not support this company until they get their crap together so to speak.
Edited by mediahound - 9/9/12 at 6:54pm
post #3350 of 7856
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

Grrrr.... So after 2 successful movies since getting the Darblet (albeit Transformers Dark of the Moon with the Darblet turned on and The Grey with the Darblet turned off due to massive amounts of grain in the original material) we watched a 3rd last night, Mission Impossible... the first one from 1996. With the Darblet on or off, we got occasional split second full "to black" drop-outs of video, a couple full drop-outs to magenta, and one screen with multicolored "snow". Didn't matter if the Darblet was turned on or off. So I had to bi-pass the Darblet and plug the signal straight in to the projector from the receiver.
Now, I am supposed to be packing for my business trip which I leave for around 4:00 am "tonight". I will have to look back through this massive thread to see what others had done/tried, but it is discouraging.

frown.gif
Path is Panasonic BDT210 blu-ray ---> Onkyo 709 receiver ---> Darblet ---> RS45 projector

Make sure Deep Color is turned OFF on your blu ray player, this can cause various issues (like those you mentioned), worth a shot. wink.gif

Jason
post #3351 of 7856
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

Noob question. How do you hook up the darblet if you're just watching OTA channels and have no cable/ satellite? I have a Terk HDTVa antenna (no HDMI) that's hooked up to my 2010 Sammy HDTV.

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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

you would need at least a dvr such as a channel master or a magnavox 2160 when you don't have a cable or satellite provider. other than that your sol it must be feed a hdmi signal.



Thanks! I was wondering if a coxial antenna to hdmi cable like this one from walmart will work though. I can't see it working in my mind as it has only one hdmi output but if they make any out there with dual hdmi outputs that might be a possibility I guess.

Any feedback is appreciated smile.gif
post #3352 of 7856
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

Grrrr.... So after 2 successful movies since getting the Darblet (albeit Transformers Dark of the Moon with the Darblet turned on and The Grey with the Darblet turned off due to massive amounts of grain in the original material) we watched a 3rd last night, Mission Impossible... the first one from 1996. With the Darblet on or off, we got occasional split second full "to black" drop-outs of video, a couple full drop-outs to magenta, and one screen with multicolored "snow". Didn't matter if the Darblet was turned on or off. So I had to bi-pass the Darblet and plug the signal straight in to the projector from the receiver.

Now, I am supposed to be packing for my business trip which I leave for around 4:00 am "tonight". I will have to look back through this massive thread to see what others had done/tried, but it is discouraging.

Path is Panasonic BDT210 blu-ray ---> Onkyo 709 receiver ---> Darblet ---> RS45 projector

Some forum members have had video issues using the Darblet with their AVR's Audio Return Channel (ARC) HDMI output. Try connecting the Darblet to your receiver's non-ARC HDMI output (HDMI OUT SUB). Alternately, you could go into your receiver's setup menu & disable ARC. I would also disable the "HDMI Control (RIHD)" setting if it's on.
post #3353 of 7856
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

Thanks! I was wondering if a coxial antenna to hdmi cable like this one from walmart will work though. I can't see it working in my mind as it has only one hdmi output but if they make any out there with dual hdmi outputs that might be a possibility I guess.
Any feedback is appreciated smile.gif

That's not actually coaxial (RF) opposite the HDMI, it's a din type plug. wink.gif

Jason
post #3354 of 7856
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

Noob question. How do you hook up the darblet if you're just watching OTA channels and have no cable/ satellite? I have a Terk HDTVa antenna (no HDMI) that's hooked up to my 2010 Sammy HDTV.

Quote:
Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

you would need at least a dvr such as a channel master or a magnavox 2160 when you don't have a cable or satellite provider. other than that your sol it must be feed a hdmi signal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chere View Post

Thanks! I was wondering if a coxial antenna to hdmi cable like this one from walmart will work though. I can't see it working in my mind as it has only one hdmi output but if they make any out there with dual hdmi outputs that might be a possibility I guess.
Any feedback is appreciated smile.gif

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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

That's not actually coaxial (RF) opposite the HDMI, it's a din type plug. wink.gif
Jason


You are right and after doing some research I guess there is no Coaxial RF to HDMI cable or convertor that will help my situation. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong. Looks like I will have to invest in a Tivo HD or a Channel Master as Iam impressed with the Darbee on blu ray material to this point. It's a shame though as I never needed a DVR before but moving forward I can't imagine not using the Darbee even while watching OTA wink.gif
post #3355 of 7856
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

You are right and after doing some research I guess there is no Coaxial RF to HDMI cable or convertor that will help my situation. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong. Looks like I will have to invest in a Tivo HD or a Channel Master as Iam impressed with the Darbee on blu ray material to this point. It's a shame though as I never needed a DVR before but moving forward I can't imagine not using the Darbee even while watching OTA wink.gif
Once you get a DVR you'll wonder why it took so long. DVR's don't improve PQ like the Darbee does but if I were faced with an either/or one or the other choice the Darbee would go and the DVR would stay. YMMV of course....
post #3356 of 7856
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

You are right and after doing some research I guess there is no Coaxial RF to HDMI cable or convertor that will help my situation. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong. Looks like I will have to invest in a Tivo HD or a Channel Master as Iam impressed with the Darbee on blu ray material to this point. It's a shame though as I never needed a DVR before but moving forward I can't imagine not using the Darbee even while watching OTA wink.gif

any external OTA tuner with an HDMI out available?Don't know they make any but might be worth looking into



Set up a new100 " Elite projector screen Saturday during the stormy weather. Watched lots of sports until most were stopped due to inclement weather and my girlfriend wanted to watch Ratatouille It looked great on the new setup and the Darbee just made it so much better. It definitely looked better than my old set up, painted wall, and the improved video quality provided by the Darbee.

In response to the post calling the darbee a piece of junk not worth 50 bucks, all I can say is yeah it's not pretty and yeah it's as bare bones as you can get but that's ok by me.IMO the Darblet was released as a beta product as cost efficient as possible to see how it works in a real world set up and if consumers would be interested in such a product. I would say at this point it is very successful and the 2K Fidelio next year will provide the wants and needs of a more complete and finished product. But.........for what it costs now and the results it provides I can overlook it's lack of beauty and expensive components.
Edited by gene9p - 9/10/12 at 6:15am
post #3357 of 7856
Received my Darbee Darblet Friday! Played with it all weekend on all different material. I have a Oppo bdp93 to the darblet then to my Runco CL-420 720p hd dlp projector. I have to say i won't watch anything without the darblet in line! I love it! The difference is subtle but well worth the cost! I purchased from avscience for $269.00 shipped. If anyone doesn't think this devise works, fear not it works! Also don't worry about your cable lenghts, as i have a .5 meter Emotiva hdmi cable from the Oppo bdp93 to the darblet then a 2 meter to my projector and all works perfectly! I highly recommend the Darbee Darblet! smile.gif My preferred setting is on HD 80% most of the time.
post #3358 of 7856
With high quality cable, I run a 10 meter cable from the Dablet to my projector with absolutely no problem running both 2D and 3D signals.
post #3359 of 7856
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

You are right and after doing some research I guess there is no Coaxial RF to HDMI cable or convertor that will help my situation. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong. Looks like I will have to invest in a Tivo HD or a Channel Master as Iam impressed with the Darbee on blu ray material to this point. It's a shame though as I never needed a DVR before but moving forward I can't imagine not using the Darbee even while watching OTA wink.gif


You should consider yourself lucky if you are in an area that can receive hopefully many clean OTA channels. By all reports people using the Darblet with those much less compressed and better signals love it. I'm backed close to some foothills where my reception from the transmitting mountain top is next to non existent, even with 15' tall mast on roof and all sorts of antenna type experiments as an early adopter first part of 2000. Or in addition to Cable I would definitely be rocking an old school antenna on the roof.....smile.gif
post #3360 of 7856
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

My experiment to conceal the Darblet by using an IR extender has failed. The response to IR commands was intermittent, and slow. When I press a button on my remote, I want 100% success and instant response. Unfortunately, the IR extender performance did not meet these expectations. I have now exposed the Darblet and once again enjoy responsive remote commands.

Was this the one you were using? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JSDHCY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 I've had 100% success with this as has joerod. Very responsive and my Darblet is tucked out of sight behind my Pio display.
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