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post #4261 of 7863
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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

not sure why they would have such a large increase in price.

FWIR it was the lower prices were an 'introductory' price.

I believe they made mention that those prices were temporary from the get-go.
post #4262 of 7863
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Originally Posted by rmallen View Post

When I first hooked up the Darbee, I cranked it up so the effect really popped. After the novelty wore off, I realized it looked a bit over processed and began dialing it back. I arrived at Gaming 50 which is about perfect for my setup.

I settled at GAMING 50% also, as have many others that have had the darblet for a while now.....
post #4263 of 7863
I'm surprised they did not have an individual memory for each mode, Hi Def, Gaming and Pop. That would make things easier. But I settled on 44% on DLP and 48% on my LCD and switch between gaming and HD. And have used Pop a few times for animation.
post #4264 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Dave_O View Post

Tried that, no luck. AVR processes signal OK with darbee in the signal path until TV is turned on.. Then, audio stops, and AVR displays NO SIGNAL. Working with Darbee support. Tried it on another TV, ROKU -> Darbee -> Sony, and it worked fine. HDMI handshakes / HDCP must be the isssue. Tried different HDMI cables with no luck.

I have had the same experience wit h my Integra feeding the darbee to the VT50. In my case it says, 'the hd protection mode of the repeater has been compromised', then no video or audio. I was also given the same suggestions to no avail, and then finally requested an RMA from AVS. However, there have been folks here who have claimed that their darblet works problem-free with the Onkyos and Integras, so I am almost thinking of requesting a replacement from darbee Vision. If it still doesn't work, I may have to sell it myself since I will be outside of the AVS return window.
post #4265 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Rashid81 View Post

I have had the same experience wit h my Integra feeding the darbee to the VT50. In my case it says, 'the hd protection mode of the repeater has been compromised', then no video or audio. I was also given the same suggestions to no avail, and then finally requested an RMA from AVS. However, there have been folks here who have claimed that their darblet works problem-free with the Onkyos and Integras, so I am almost thinking of requesting a replacement from darbee Vision. If it still doesn't work, I may have to sell it myself since I will be outside of the AVS return window.

The Darbee works fine going direct from the cable box to the GT-30, but fails with the Integra 8-9 in the loop. Probably will have to return it.
post #4266 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Dave_O View Post


The Darbee works fine going direct from the cable box to the GT-30, but fails with the Integra 8-9 in the loop. Probably will have to return it.


Hmm.   Mine works fine with a Onkyo 3008 in the loop, and I thought that Onkyo and Integra were essentially the same.   ?

post #4267 of 7863
Works with 80.2 and Fios .
post #4268 of 7863

I think the DVP value people settle on depends on the size of the TV/Projector and how far they are from the said TV/Projector and maybe whether they watch movies in the dark or with lights on. With overhead light on, you're bound to crank up the DVP value than if you were in the dark.

 

In my case, i have a 60" plasma and watching 14-ft away with an HD mode @ 70% in the dark. If i move closer to the TV, i readily notice the changes.

 

I had it in Game mode @ 45% and liked it but found out this was meant for CGI stuff and games and then changed it to HD mode.

post #4269 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Dave_O View Post

The Darbee works fine going direct from the cable box to the GT-30, but fails with the Integra 8-9 in the loop. Probably will have to return it.

Have you tried connecting the Darblet to the Integra's "Out Sub" connector? Audio Return Channel has caused problems for some Onkyo/Integra AVR owners and the "Out Sub" connector does not include that feature, I believe.
post #4270 of 7863
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Originally Posted by henrich3 View Post

Have you tried connecting the Darblet to the Integra's "Out Sub" connector? Audio Return Channel has caused problems for some Onkyo/Integra AVR owners and the "Out Sub" connector does not include that feature, I believe.

Great suggestion !!!. I had the AVR using OUT SUB, changed it to Main Output and It's working great !!!!!!!

Thanks a million for pointing me in the right direction.
Edited by Dave_O - 10/15/12 at 9:53pm
post #4271 of 7863
Try disabling ARC in your display as well. Any HDMI CEC features that allow one device to control another (eg. VIERA Link) might need to be disabled in both your AVR and display.
Edited by henrich3 - 10/15/12 at 9:59pm
post #4272 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Dave_O View Post

Great suggestion !!!. I had the AVR using OUT SUB, changed it to Main Output and It's working great !!!!!!!
Thanks a million for pointing me in the right direction.

Odd that it worked better moving from the Out Sub to the Out Main. Whatever works...

Cheers!
Edited by henrich3 - 10/15/12 at 10:04pm
post #4273 of 7863
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Originally Posted by fleaman View Post

FWIR it was the lower prices were an 'introductory' price.
I believe they made mention that those prices were temporary from the get-go.

no, you are wrong,
the original MSRP from the inventor itself was $250 with no mention of it being a temporary price.
so I will wait it out, and if we all did the same, the MSRP price would go back down.
(never going to happen because most people are like sheep, they follow the crowd, etc..)

NO PRICE TALK, except for MSRP!
yes, I know the rules.
post #4274 of 7863
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Originally Posted by fleaman View Post

To me (and probably most of the posters here who have it), I would still buy it at the higher price. Of course I'm coming from the luxury of already having the darbee smile.gif
I had to pay sales tax anyway, so it was something like $294 total. At the time, none of the non-tax sites had it in stock any cheaper.
Since I believe they still have a generous return policy (at least AVS does), you can at least try one out and decide for yourself. At worst you'd be out shipping costs, at best you'll have a PQ improvement that no other device can do at the current price, or perhaps even at any price.

I can wait it out myself.
and if we all did the same, the MSRP price would go back down.
okay, I am done talking about the MSRP. mad.gif

I wonder if they will come out with a newer version next year?

and not the $2000 version that everybody is talking about!
post #4275 of 7863
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

I think the DVP value people settle on depends on the size of the TV/Projector and how far they are from the said TV/Projector and maybe whether they watch movies in the dark or with lights on. With overhead light on, you're bound to crank up the DVP value than if you were in the dark.

In my case, i have a 60" plasma and watching 14-ft away with an HD mode @ 70% in the dark. If i move closer to the TV, i readily notice the changes.

I had it in Game mode @ 45% and liked it but found out this was meant for CGI stuff and games and then changed it to HD mode.

Game mode at 45 is my sweet spot.I dont think you need to worry yourself about it being for certain things.If it looks good to you then its a keeper.Modes are so dependent of state of users set up and eye characteristics.
post #4276 of 7863
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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

I pass at the current price.
not sure why they would have such a large increase in price.
not a bait and switch, but not far off considering most people posting on this thread got it when the MSRP was less than $300.
good time to be an early adoptor, not the norm... but it happens.

That's not fair at all. It was an introductory price, said so on their site.
post #4277 of 7863
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Originally Posted by rmallen View Post

When I first hooked up the Darbee, I cranked it up so the effect really popped. After the novelty wore off, I realized it looked a bit over processed and began dialing it back. I arrived at Gaming 50 which is about perfect for my setup.

Right where I am. smile.gif
post #4278 of 7863
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

That's not fair at all. It was an introductory price, said so on their site.

so be it, the fact is, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A PRICE INCREASE LIKE THIS BEFORE IN MY LIFE.

get it out there at a great price, then once the word gets out there how good it is, increase the price about 33%.

for those who can afford it, yes it's still is a great buy.

end of story. i hope.
post #4279 of 7863
That's why it's called "introductory price". I've seen potato chips introductory price of $1 a bag and after the introductory period the same bag went up to $2.79 each.
post #4280 of 7863
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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

so be it, the fact is, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A PRICE INCREASE LIKE THIS BEFORE IN MY LIFE.
get it out there at a great price, then once the word gets out there how good it is, increase the price about 33%.
for those who can afford it, yes it's still is a great buy.
end of story. i hope.

You've voiced your displeasure, it's time to move on.
post #4281 of 7863
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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

so be it, the fact is, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A PRICE INCREASE LIKE THIS BEFORE IN MY LIFE.
get it out there at a great price, then once the word gets out there how good it is, increase the price about 33%.
for those who can afford it, yes it's still is a great buy.
end of story. i hope.

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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

That's why it's called "introductory price". I've seen potato chips introductory price of $1 a bag and after the introductory period the same bag went up to $2.79 each.

I agree with both of you but its too late now. biggrin.gif Hoping Darbee will come with newer device with better feature and price tag lesser than 500 tongue.gif
post #4282 of 7863
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Hoping Darbee will come with newer device with better feature and price tag lesser than 500

Or you could jump in now, realizing it's still really good value even at full price.
post #4283 of 7863
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

Or you could jump in now, realizing it's still really good value even at full price.

I already bought from AVS when it was 269 cool.gif and love this baby also now i don't like watching TV with DD wink.gif
post #4284 of 7863
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Heck ... after much wrangling and finger biting, i bit the bullet and bought the Darblet from Amazon (they had a zero shipping thing and even more ...no sales tax, which are quite high in Cali:p ). I hope its a "No Drama" install with my system which consists of an OPPO-95 + Moxi HD DVR Cable box  ===> Anthem D2v Pre-Pro  ===>  Pioneer Elite PRO151 60" Plasma TV.

I also have a Redmere 50-ft HDMI cable with built-in EQ from the Anthem to the Plasma, so the question i have whether its better to place the Darbee on the Plasma side or the Anthem Pre-Pro side?  If placed on the Anthem side, what length of short cable should be used between PrePro and Darblet? I'm also at a loss on how to cleanly & neatly install this thing in my closed vertical rack:confused:

It's usually to install the Darbee as close as possible to the video source, in your case the Pioneer Elite Pro TV.
post #4285 of 7863
if you're talking about the video source then the you put the Darbee closest to your Anthem, not the Pioneer display.
post #4286 of 7863
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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

no, you are wrong,
the original MSRP from the inventor itself was $250 with no mention of it being a temporary price.
so I will wait it out, and if we all did the same, the MSRP price would go back down.
.

Let me know how that works out for you.
(and you were wrong btw)

Would it make you feel better if they called it a 'sale' instead, and you missed out on the sale?

You can probably get the unit from a vender that won't charge you tax (perhaps AVS if you're not in California), which means it would be about $55 more than what I paid for my darbee with tax (cheapest I could find it at the time).

$55 extra seems like nothing considering the amount of $$ AVS posters spend on gear.

But hey, it's your prerogative to fret about $55 I suppose rolleyes.gif

Your loss smile.gif
post #4287 of 7863
Okay everyone, let's all move on from the topic of RobbyTV and the current price of the darbee. It's really fair for me to ask him to drop the topic and you guys continue to drive the point home.

Deep breath...let's move back to discussing the Darbee and the technical aspects of the product.

Thanks
post #4288 of 7863
ok, having had the darbee for awhile, I can honestly say that I don't want to watch tv without it anymore! When this thing launched I totally poo poo'd it as being another wonderful Edge enhancer. Then I saw Joerod had gotten one and I was like WTF? That does not seem possible that he would go for crappy EE and ringing. So, on a lark I revisited the thread that had blown up to a zillion pages and saw all the glowing reviews. Had a $20 off coupon for smarthome and took a chance on ordering one....right before the big price increase.
Yes, it sucks that it had the price increase, but seeing what it does I would still pay that amount! HOWEVER, If I did not know what an improvement it made would I still order one at the new price? Yeah, probably because of all of the glowing reviews..
I also am playing with an oppo 93 (iso capable) and the new 103. Having a fun time "darbeeing" everything and anything I can find.
I also agree that the BETTER the source material the better the darbee. I pretty much only watch HDTV from my antennae and directv and blu ray so I am pretty good to go on that front.
The only negative I have to report is that I spend. bit too much time playing with the darbee than watching the show! biggrin.gif
post #4289 of 7863
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Originally Posted by ajglass View Post

It's usually to install the Darbee as close as possible to the video source, in your case the Pioneer Elite Pro TV.

The video source of the video display?

I used to have my Darblet between my DUO and my Denon receiver. But a couple of times I had an issue where the audio was only showing up in stereo instead of the 5.1 it should have been. So I moved my Darblet to the output of my receiver. So the output of the Darblet goes straight to my display. I haven't seen the issue with the stereo audio since then. But I have seen the flash of magenta when changing sources which i didn't see before.
post #4290 of 7863
I had a lot of HDMI sync problems with my Darblet between my Onkyo 3007 and my Pioneer FPJ1 projector. My solution, which sounds totally counter-intuitive, was to add HDMI savers from monoprice (I bought like 15 of them a while back) on both sides of the Darblet. Has worked fine since. It does take a while to sync originally (about 10 seconds longer than without it I would guess).
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