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post #4291 of 6148
10/16/12 at 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

The video source of the video display?
I used to have my Darblet between my DUO and my Denon receiver. But a couple of times I had an issue where the audio was only showing up in stereo instead of the 5.1 it should have been. So I moved my Darblet to the output of my receiver. So the output of the Darblet goes straight to my display. I haven't seen the issue with the stereo audio since then. But I have seen the flash of magenta when changing sources which i didn't see before.
This is how I am set up as well and have the ever so brief magenta flash as well. Using mine on HD55 with my new Oppo 103 and PQ is just amazing.
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post #4292 of 6148
10/16/12 at 7:01pm
Damn this Darblet! I try to get through one movie, just one movie but, no, I have to pause the show every 5 minutes. "Ooh, hair shot. Gotta test the before and after." "Ooh lush scenery in the background. Let's see what the before and after looks like." It's a curse, a curse I tell you! But I still love my Darbee. smile.gif
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post #4293 of 6148
10/16/12 at 7:09pm
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Originally Posted by ajglass View Post


It's usually to install the Darbee as close as possible to the video source, in your case the Pioneer Elite Pro TV.

Why place it at the TV side instead of placing it on the Anthem side?

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post #4294 of 6148
10/16/12 at 7:20pm
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

Damn this Darblet! I try to get through one movie, just one movie but, no, I have to pause the show every 5 minutes. "Ooh, hair shot. Gotta test the before and after." "Ooh lush scenery in the background. Let's see what the before and after looks like." It's a curse, a curse I tell you! But I still love my Darbee. smile.gif

Mine is being delivered this Thursday... can't wait to join all this excitement!biggrin.gif
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post #4295 of 6148
10/16/12 at 7:50pm
Got mine. Definitly saw an improvement with details. Kept pausing the season finale for Hell On Wheels to see the lush midwest grass in the outdoor scenes.
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post #4296 of 6148
10/16/12 at 7:51pm
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Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

This is how I am set up as well and have the ever so brief magenta flash as well. Using mine on HD55 with my new Oppo 103 and PQ is just amazing.

Never saw the Magenta Flashes members are talking about while using most of my equipment. Finally used my OPPO 93, and now I see the Purple Flashes. My OPPO has been picky from the start on the HDMI handshaking. I have to make sure the iScan Duo has the OPPO selected before turning it on, or else getting Video was hit and miss. Don't even dare put on Pause, then switch to another component, because when you come back, 90% of the time you ain't going to get the Video back without shutting the OPPO down and re-starting it. No such problems with the Sony 790.
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post #4297 of 6148
10/16/12 at 10:57pm
Just finished watching Snow White and the Huntsman with the Darbee set to HD 50. The picture quality and cinematography are jaw dropping, imho. You do have to put up with a pouty Kristen Stewart (I like her, but man she was bad in this one), but you'd have to be a moron to not see that Sanders clearly pilfered cinematography ideas from Peter Jackson. Imitation is the best form of flattery, though.
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post #4298 of 6148
10/17/12 at 12:28am
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Originally Posted by jkalsaria View Post

I agree with both of you but its too late now. biggrin.gif Hoping Darbee will come with newer device with better feature and price tag lesser than 500 tongue.gif

I hear you, I am also looking foward to the next version to come out that is less than $500 and I will jump on it.
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post #4299 of 6148
10/17/12 at 1:30am
Are there any HTPC owners here who are using SVP Frame Interpolation on their HTPC and the Darbee after this? Experience?
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post #4300 of 6148
10/17/12 at 5:10am
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Originally Posted by chexi1 View Post

I had a lot of HDMI sync problems with my Darblet between my Onkyo 3007 and my Pioneer FPJ1 projector. My solution, which sounds totally counter-intuitive, was to add HDMI savers from monoprice (I bought like 15 of them a while back) on both sides of the Darblet. Has worked fine since. It does take a while to sync originally (about 10 seconds longer than without it I would guess).

Interesting. I'm still getting occasional "green screen" on startup requiring me to cycle my monoprice hdmi switch. I can go for days without it showing up, then it appears again. Dish 722/Pana dmp 300>monoprice switch>Epson 6010. Wonder if I'm losing connection at the darby, after your observations?
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post #4301 of 6148
10/17/12 at 7:01am
Just a quick note about Darbeevision. I've run into a few problems with my Darblet and am pleased to report that the company is very good about customer service. Frankly, I hate being without my Darblet. We went on vacation last month and my wife had to convince me I really didn't need to take it with us. LOL

It should also be noted that Mike from AVS has also be very good to work with.
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post #4302 of 6148
10/17/12 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

Mine is being delivered this Thursday... can't wait to join all this excitement!biggrin.gif

Will be interesting on your comments, as I know you love your LG 55LHX, but, like me, found it somewhat lacking in the POP areas of viewing.
Can't really say it's POP, more of a Clarification of what we're seeing.
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post #4303 of 6148
10/17/12 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

Damn this Darblet! I try to get through one movie, just one movie but, no, I have to pause the show every 5 minutes. "Ooh, hair shot. Gotta test the before and after." "Ooh lush scenery in the background. Let's see what the before and after looks like." It's a curse, a curse I tell you! But I still love my Darbee. smile.gif

The Darblet not only improved the picture but also added Interactive TV features and you're complaining? wink.gif

I hear you. Just about the time that I had conquered Darblet A/B Syndrome, I got a new Epson projector... and it started all over again.
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post #4304 of 6148
10/17/12 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

Damn this Darblet! I try to get through one movie, just one movie but, no, I have to pause the show every 5 minutes. "Ooh, hair shot. Gotta test the before and after." "Ooh lush scenery in the background. Let's see what the before and after looks like." It's a curse, a curse I tell you! But I still love my Darbee. smile.gif


Best shot I have ever seen is in the original "Resident Evil" when Mila wakes up and there is a close up of her eye. I swear the Darblet causes the eyelashes to look as if she has put mascara on them all of a sudden. Everyone in my family sees that and "awes" about it as I turn it on and off and on and off. Perfect demo material.
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post #4305 of 6148
10/17/12 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

Damn this Darblet! I try to get through one movie, just one movie but, no, I have to pause the show every 5 minutes. "Ooh, hair shot. Gotta test the before and after." "Ooh lush scenery in the background. Let's see what the before and after looks like." It's a curse, a curse I tell you! But I still love my Darbee. smile.gif

Watched Raider of the Lost Ark on blu last night (sound quality good, PQ was shotty IMO), BUT I'M STARTING TO PISS OFF MY TWIN BROTHER WITH THE DARBEE. Last night I was only 'allowed' to pause 2 times to see the difference between 50% GAMING and DARBEE OFF. Even with this movie, the Dablet really does it's magic (and a lot of scenes were shot out-of-focus taboot). THIS IS MY HOME THEATER DAMN IT....why can't I 'darbel' all night long???? biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
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post #4306 of 6148
10/17/12 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

Interesting. I'm still getting occasional "green screen" on startup requiring me to cycle my monoprice hdmi switch. I can go for days without it showing up, then it appears again. Dish 722/Pana dmp 300>monoprice switch>Epson 6010. Wonder if I'm losing connection at the darby, after your observations?

Mine is not playing well with my 3D BD player. It is apparently causing a handshake issue. No big issue as I watch almost all of my content via my server, but I did notice it on the Avengers 3D, so I had to drop it out of the loop from my BD player until I can upgrade my cable to my projector- and I am sure it is the cable as an HDMI cable run accross the floor has no issues. Unfortunately, I currently have a DVI cable in ceiling that was installed when we built the house and although it is HDCP compatible, I am going to have to replace it. I knew this was coming and was actually surprised I didn't have to do it when I went to 3D, but the jig is now up. I will have to cut the ends off of the DVI cable and pull a run of HDMI cable to replace it. A definite PITA but the Darbee is certainly worth the trouble.
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post #4307 of 6148
10/17/12 at 12:13pm

Just received mine last night, and below is my limited review comments and set up.

My set up:

Oppo 83 & DTV into Anthem D2v, HDMI out to Panny  AE4000 (3 LCD) to a 106” screen.  Darbee is connected with a 3’ HDMI out of my Anthem and connected to a 50’ HDMI to the projector

 

My review is based only on 1 night, and with I believe we would could agree is quite good equipment that should already producing a top quality video – hence – improvements may be less than that compared to lesser equipment.

 

Darbee Viewing

DTV: Output of my Anthem D2v is always 1080P 60 to Darbee then to projector

  • Trying different modes (driving my wife nuts) I found HD @ 70% to be the best on most things.   Or Game at 50%.
  • The improvement is minor, more detail in hair, better contrast etc.
  • In  Pop mode I found the correction to strong (example is on the menu for DTV you can see over contrast lines beside each letter) – of course it all depends on how high you set the Darbee 0-120%

Conclusion DTV – The value at current price is no equal. To small of an improvement – Would pay $99 for the improvement on DTV.Just my opinion

 

Blu-ray Oppo 83 – Output to Darbee is always 1080P 24 Deep Color (watched only one so far The Blind Side)

  • Trying different modes ended up with HD at 60%
  • Much better with Blu-ray’s (old adage garbage in garbage out)
  • Much finer detail noticed in hair, face etc.
  • If you turn it up too much or go to Full Pop/Game – IMHO it takes away the smooth “film” looks of a movie – so it is a balance.   With DLP projectors (I had one) you have that smoothness with LCD you start out on the sharp side, in the end you want a sharp /detailed film like appearance.

Conclusion Blu-ray – The value at current price is on target if just a little high.   Certainly better with higher quality material than DTV.

 

Final Conclusion =

  • I’ll keep it for the value it adds to Blu-ray.  I have placed it behind my equipment out of site with a remote IR Sensor.
  • I’ve had no pink screen or flickering – it fired up with no issues

 

Suggestions for improvement to Darbee Mfg.

  1. Change the configuration so the HDMIs come out the back instead of the sides.  As is now you take up a wide space with a HDMI in/out of the sides.   Also if you were to use the built in IR and the unit was visible it would be messy with the big cables visible
  2. Change programing so you can set each mode separately (HD, Game, Full Pop) – that way we could set one for DVDs, one for Blu-ray’s and one for DTV or other sources
  3. Make it upgradable via Ethernet or USB – Do you plan on notifying us of an upgrade?   If so how as we don’t register on your web site???
  4. Make your demo mode with split screen ability to move the line as to where it splits
  5. Comments have been made about the looks of the “box” – doesn’t bother me as it behind my equipment
  6.  EXCELLENT that you can dim the LEDs!

Edited by Texas steve - 10/17/12 at 12:38pm
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post #4308 of 6148
10/17/12 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by Texas steve View Post

Just received mine last night, and below is my limited review comments and set up.
My set up:
Oppo 83 & DTV into Anthem D2v, HDMI out to Panny  AE4000 (3 LCD) to a 106” screen.  Darbee is connected with a 3’ HDMI out of my Anthem and connected to a 50’ HDMI to the projector

My review is based only on 1 night, and with I believe we would could agree is quite good equipment that should already producing a top quality video – hence – improvements may be less than that compared to lesser equipment.

Darbee Viewing
DTV: Output of my Anthem D2v is always 1080P 60 to Darbee then to projector
  • Trying different modes (driving my wife nuts) I found HD @ 70% to be the best on most things.   Or Game at 50%.
  • The improvement is minor, more detail in hair, better contrast etc.
  • In  Pop mode I found the correction to strong (example is on the menu for DTV you can see over contrast lines beside each letter) – of course it all depends on how high you set the Darbee 0-120%
Conclusion DTV – The value at current price is no equal. To small of an improvement – Would pay $99 for the improvement on DTV.Just my opinion

Blu-ray Oppo 83 – Output to Darbee is always 1080P 24 Deep Color (watched only one so far The Blind Side)
  • Trying different modes ended up with HD at 60%
  • Much better with Blu-ray’s (old adage garbage in garbage out)
  • Much finer detail noticed in hair, face etc.
  • If you turn it up too much or go to Full Pop/Game – IMHO it takes away the smooth “film” looks of a movie – so it is a balance.   With DLP projectors (I had one) you have that smoothness with LCD you start out on the sharp side, in the end you want a sharp /detailed film like appearance.
Conclusion Blu-ray – The value at current price is on target if just a little high.   Certainly better with higher quality material than DTV.

Final Conclusion =
  • I’ll keep it for the value it adds to Blu-ray.  I have placed it behind my equipment out of site with a remote IR Sensor.
  • I’ve had no pink screen or flickering – it fired up with no issues

Suggestions for improvement to Darbee Mfg.
  1. Change the configuration so the HDMIs come out the back instead of the sides.  As is now you take up a wide space with a HDMI in/out of the sides.   Also if you were to use the built in IR and the unit was visible it would be messy with the big cables visible
  2. Change programing so you can set each mode separately (HD, Game, Full Pop) – that way we could set one for DVDs, one for Blu-ray’s and one for DTV or other sources
  3. Make it upgradable via Ethernet or USB – Do you plan on notifying us of an upgrade?   If so how as we don’t register on your web site???
  4. Make your demo mode with split screen ability to move the line as to where it splits
  5. Comments have been made about the looks of the “box” – doesn’t bother me as it behind my equipment
  6.  EXCELLENT that you can dim the LEDs!

Darn, Steve, I had to plug my Darblet into my PC display just to be able to read that font color.... wink.gif
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post #4309 of 6148
10/17/12 at 12:37pm

Yea, I have a black bakground on as my Theme so black text did not work!

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post #4310 of 6148
10/17/12 at 5:49pm
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Originally Posted by Texas steve View Post

Just received mine last night, and below is my limited review comments and set up.
My set up:
Oppo 83 & DTV into Anthem D2v, HDMI out to Panny  AE4000 (3 LCD) to a 106” screen.  Darbee is connected with a 3’ HDMI out of my Anthem and connected to a 50’ HDMI to the projector

My review is based only on 1 night, and with I believe we would could agree is quite good equipment that should already producing a top quality video – hence – improvements may be less than that compared to lesser equipment.

Darbee Viewing
DTV: Output of my Anthem D2v is always 1080P 60 to Darbee then to projector
  • Trying different modes (driving my wife nuts) I found HD @ 70% to be the best on most things.   Or Game at 50%.
  • The improvement is minor, more detail in hair, better contrast etc.
  • In  Pop mode I found the correction to strong (example is on the menu for DTV you can see over contrast lines beside each letter) – of course it all depends on how high you set the Darbee 0-120%
Conclusion DTV – The value at current price is no equal. To small of an improvement – Would pay $99 for the improvement on DTV.Just my opinion

Blu-ray Oppo 83 – Output to Darbee is always 1080P 24 Deep Color (watched only one so far The Blind Side)
  • Trying different modes ended up with HD at 60%
  • Much better with Blu-ray’s (old adage garbage in garbage out)
  • Much finer detail noticed in hair, face etc.
  • If you turn it up too much or go to Full Pop/Game – IMHO it takes away the smooth “film” looks of a movie – so it is a balance.   With DLP projectors (I had one) you have that smoothness with LCD you start out on the sharp side, in the end you want a sharp /detailed film like appearance.
Conclusion Blu-ray – The value at current price is on target if just a little high.   Certainly better with higher quality material than DTV.

Final Conclusion =
  • I’ll keep it for the value it adds to Blu-ray.  I have placed it behind my equipment out of site with a remote IR Sensor.
  • I’ve had no pink screen or flickering – it fired up with no issues

Suggestions for improvement to Darbee Mfg.
  1. Change the configuration so the HDMIs come out the back instead of the sides.  As is now you take up a wide space with a HDMI in/out of the sides.   Also if you were to use the built in IR and the unit was visible it would be messy with the big cables visible
  2. Change programing so you can set each mode separately (HD, Game, Full Pop) – that way we could set one for DVDs, one for Blu-ray’s and one for DTV or other sources
  3. Make it upgradable via Ethernet or USB – Do you plan on notifying us of an upgrade?   If so how as we don’t register on your web site???
  4. Make your demo mode with split screen ability to move the line as to where it splits
  5. Comments have been made about the looks of the “box” – doesn’t bother me as it behind my equipment
  6.  EXCELLENT that you can dim the LEDs!



Nice review..

Pushed me over the edge to give the Darbee a shot. Sucks the $269 price is gone. Hopefully its worth the $350 on Amazon
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post #4311 of 6148
10/17/12 at 7:01pm
The Cyclone IV processor that is the heart of the Darblet operates rather hot. I decided to install a copper heat sink last night in hopes of improving long-term reliability.

I have seen far too many BMG mounted component failures over the years. Heat sinks are really inexpensive insurance.
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post #4312 of 6148
10/17/12 at 9:53pm

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Originally Posted by KewlK View Post

The Cyclone IV processor that is the heart of the Darblet operates rather hot. I decided to install a copper heat sink last night in hopes of improving long-term reliability.

I have seen far too many BMG mounted component failures over the years. Heat sinks are really inexpensive insurance.

Exactly what i also thought of doing.. smile.gif

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post #4313 of 6148
10/17/12 at 10:01pm
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Originally Posted by KewlK View Post

The Cyclone IV processor that is the heart of the Darblet operates rather hot. I decided to install a copper heat sink last night in hopes of improving long-term reliability.
I have seen far too many BMG mounted component failures over the years. Heat sinks are really inexpensive insurance.

Sounds like a smart move, but would that void the mfg's warantee????
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post #4314 of 6148
10/18/12 at 1:34am
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Originally Posted by Texas steve View Post

Just received mine last night, and below is my limited review comments and set up.

My set up:

Oppo 83 & DTV into Anthem D2v, HDMI out to Panny  AE4000 (3 LCD) to a 106” screen.  Darbee is connected with a 3’ HDMI out of my Anthem and connected to a 50’ HDMI to the projector

 

My review is based only on 1 night, and with I believe we would could agree is quite good equipment that should already producing a top quality video – hence – improvements may be less than that compared to lesser equipment.

 

Darbee Viewing

DTV: Output of my Anthem D2v is always 1080P 60 to Darbee then to projector

  • Trying different modes (driving my wife nuts) I found HD @ 70% to be the best on most things.   Or Game at 50%.
  • The improvement is minor, more detail in hair, better contrast etc.
  • In  Pop mode I found the correction to strong (example is on the menu for DTV you can see over contrast lines beside each letter) – of course it all depends on how high you set the Darbee 0-120%

Conclusion DTV – The value at current price is no equal. To small of an improvement – Would pay $99 for the improvement on DTV.Just my opinion

 

Blu-ray Oppo 83 – Output to Darbee is always 1080P 24 Deep Color (watched only one so far The Blind Side)

  • Trying different modes ended up with HD at 60%
  • Much better with Blu-ray’s (old adage garbage in garbage out)
  • Much finer detail noticed in hair, face etc.
  • If you turn it up too much or go to Full Pop/Game – IMHO it takes away the smooth “film” looks of a movie – so it is a balance.   With DLP projectors (I had one) you have that smoothness with LCD you start out on the sharp side, in the end you want a sharp /detailed film like appearance.

Conclusion Blu-ray – The value at current price is on target if just a little high.   Certainly better with higher quality material than DTV.

 

Final Conclusion =

  • I’ll keep it for the value it adds to Blu-ray.  I have placed it behind my equipment out of site with a remote IR Sensor.
  • I’ve had no pink screen or flickering – it fired up with no issues

 

Suggestions for improvement to Darbee Mfg.

  1. Change the configuration so the HDMIs come out the back instead of the sides.  As is now you take up a wide space with a HDMI in/out of the sides.   Also if you were to use the built in IR and the unit was visible it would be messy with the big cables visible
  2. Change programing so you can set each mode separately (HD, Game, Full Pop) – that way we could set one for DVDs, one for Blu-ray’s and one for DTV or other sources
  3. Make it upgradable via Ethernet or USB – Do you plan on notifying us of an upgrade?   If so how as we don’t register on your web site???
  4. Make your demo mode with split screen ability to move the line as to where it splits
  5. Comments have been made about the looks of the “box” – doesn’t bother me as it behind my equipment
  6.  EXCELLENT that you can dim the LEDs!

 

 

Steve:

 

Your configuration and observations are exactly like mine. I also have a D2v and an Oppo 95. I have the Darbee at 70 in HD and 50 in game mode. Are you also seated 14 feet away from your TV? I am and have a 60" plasma so i jacked it up to HD70 or GM50 to see changes at 14-ft.

 

- David

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post #4315 of 6148
10/18/12 at 1:37am

I have sent email to Darbee folksfor some problems am having with my unit and have not heard from them in a couple of days. What is their proper contact address?

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post #4316 of 6148
10/18/12 at 1:45am

When i shut of my pre-pro at the end of the day or night, leaving my TV on and the Darbee on inside of my HT rack, the TVis black but blinks its own status information constantly, such as input port the signal is coming in and te type of input connection it is. In my case, its saying HDMI4 (remaned as Anthem) and HDMI.

 

I don't know how to tell it to stop blinking w/o turning off the TV. I don't turn off the TV for i don't want to wear out the power supply. I've already replaced it once already. So after 15 minutes or so of no video,  the TV is supposed to enter deep sleep mode which preserves lots of power and cools it down as well. but with the Drabee in th chain, like i sad before, it blinks status info repetitevely.

 

 

Anyone seeing this as well? Can you try this quick test for less than 30 seconds for me please? Thanks ....

 

1. Turn off your AVR/Pre-Pro.

 

2.  Leave your TV/ Project on.

 

3.  Do NOT turn off the darbee or any other device in the chain after the pre-pro. The assumption is that the Darbee is attached directly to the output of the AVR / Pre -Pro.

 

What does your display show? Is it completey lack/bblank or does it show or blink some message of some sort?

 

 

Thanks,

David

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post #4317 of 6148
10/18/12 at 6:21am

Yep seated at 14.1' from the screen.  All in all a good purchase, not as dramatic as expected but improved.

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post #4318 of 6148
10/18/12 at 7:22am
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Originally Posted by KewlK View Post

The Cyclone IV processor that is the heart of the Darblet operates rather hot. I decided to install a copper heat sink last night in hopes of improving long-term reliability.
I have seen far too many BMG mounted component failures over the years. Heat sinks are really inexpensive insurance.

Felt mine this morning, top and bottom, barely luke warm. Could be the TV stand it's lying flat on, is acting as a heat sink.
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post #4319 of 6148
10/18/12 at 7:27am
I have mine in a way that it is barely touching anything, it's so light that the HDMI cables can keep it suspended in the air. It is not even luke warm.
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post #4320 of 6148
10/18/12 at 7:31am
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Felt mine this morning, top and bottom, barely luke warm. Could be the TV stand it's lying flat on, is acting as a heat sink.

I have the unit suspended vertically with eight inches of space all around it.

In standby mode it is barely warm to the touch. However after only 15 minutes of active use it is on the hot side. The PCB is essentially acting as the sole passive heat sink for the processor, which is never a good thing.
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