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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

On those same frames, back off to about 40% or perhaps 42% and use the Full Pop mode. Now checking between Game and Pop do you see that instead of increasing bright areas, actually those areas mentioned lose some of the brightness or "glow", actually looking a little better while the overall detail is maintained much like Game at 50% on the face and clothing etc? In addition areas that are black are a little more black. .

I noticed that Pop mode affected the shadow details a little, to the point of crushing them a little. FWIR Game mode (and HD) didn't do that at all.

I think even at lower settings shadow details were affected on POP mode, compared to 'off'. I'll have to check again....
post #4382 of 6106
I figured I'd better post my positive experience with the Darblet. I got in at the last minute for the promo price thanks to the heads up in this thread and knowing what the new price would be I bought two and placed them directly on a DirecTV HR-24 and a Sony 790. Unfortunately, I have had no time to sit and watch any movies on the Sony but watched a few on DirecTV. What sold me was one movie, Hereafter. What I saw in one scene was a bedspread in the background, it looked out of focus, as if the scene was shot with a short depth of field. With the Darbbe on at 55% HD the pattern in the bed spread looked as if it were in focus. In another scene the principles are meeting in a pedestrian mall with shops in the background. What jumped into focus with the Darbbe on was what was behind the windows and inside the shops. With the Darbee off nothing past the store front was discernable, with it on I wanted to go in and shop.

Unfortunately, I took the Sony out of service so did no viewing with it using the Darbbe. I replaced it with the new Oppo so when I get a chance to watch some shiny discs I'll let everyone know how it goes.
post #4383 of 6106
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Originally Posted by ac388 View Post

After using the Darbee for 2 weeks without problem,the unit did not turn itself on when my whole system is ON. Only the red light is on ,no green nor blue light comes on,plus no picture.
However when I unplug n plug the power supply, the unit will work for that one time only.
Wonder if somebody have the same problem before n can help here.
Thanks in advance.

Can somebody give me help here !
Is it possible the problem lies with the 10M Bjc Series 1 cable between the Darbee n my projector ???
post #4384 of 6106
Still no support for Frame Packed 3D....
post #4385 of 6106
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

Still no support for Frame Packed 3D....

What are you talking about? The Darblet has supported frame-packed 3D from the beginning.
post #4386 of 6106
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Originally Posted by ac388 View Post

Can somebody give me help here !
Is it possible the problem lies with the 10M Bjc Series 1 cable between the Darbee n my projector ???

So that's a 10 meter long cable? Is the darby connected near the pj, or near the source? If it's over 30' long, then it might be the cable I guess? Having the darbee in the chain might be just enough signal degradation to not allow the pj to maintain a signal? Can you try a shorter cable to test?
post #4387 of 6106
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

What are you talking about? The Darblet has supported frame-packed 3D from the beginning.

I am talking from experience, have you run frame packed 3d 1920x 2205 ? I have and reported it from the first batch......
Edited by LJG - 10/21/12 at 2:11pm
post #4388 of 6106
The listing price I have seen does bare resemblance to what the print reviews and people on this thread are stating.
Did the price go up after its release or what?
post #4389 of 6106
The answer to my question has already been posted above
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Hi jnabq,

Yes it is 10meters cable between the Darbee n projector n then only 0.5meter between the Pioneer Avr n Darbee. However this setup worked ok for the first 2 weeks n then it stop now,that is the part I dont understand.

I cannot rearrange the Hdmi cables since my projector is up in the ceiling with only 1 IEC power cord going directly to the projector.

Thanks for yr input but any other suggestion !
Edited by ac388 - 10/21/12 at 3:07pm
post #4391 of 6106
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

have you run frame packed 3d 1920x 2205 ? I have and reported it from the first batch......

I can confirm it works with 1920x1080 24fps frame packed 3D Blu-rays and 1280x720 60fps frame packed 3D (PC games). I enjoy both regularly with the Darblet. If these didn't work for you before, it was either a defective unit or a problem with a different piece of equipment.
Edited by Airion - 10/21/12 at 9:24pm
post #4392 of 6106
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Originally Posted by Airion View Post

I can confirm it works with 1920x1080 24fps frame packed 3D Blu-rays and 1280x720 60fps frame packed 3D (PC games). I enjoy both regularly with the Darblet. If these didn't work for you before, it was either a defective unit or a problem with a different piece of equipment.

You confirmed it works with 1920 x 1080 24, I have said it does not work with Frame Packed 3D 1920 x 2205, that is the correct Frame packed rate for 3D blurays
post #4393 of 6106
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post


I have said it does not work with Frame Packed 3D 1920 x 2205

The specifications state the supported resolution is 1080p60 or less.
post #4394 of 6106
But that is not 1.4 hdmi 3d spec for frame packed
post #4395 of 6106
In the User Guide it says it only works with resolutions up to 1920 x1200. Which would be well below the resolution from a 3D Blu-ray Disc.
post #4396 of 6106
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Originally Posted by ac388 View Post

After using the Darbee for 2 weeks without problem,the unit did not turn itself on when my whole system is ON. Only the red light is on ,no green nor blue light comes on,plus no picture.
However when I unplug n plug the power supply, the unit will work for that one time only.
Wonder if somebody have the same problem before n can help here.
Thanks in advance.


If it was working fine for 2 weeks then stopping working normally requiring the equivalent of a reset to get it operational I would suspect the unit has become defective. Contact Darbee for assistance.

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Technical problems with your new product

If you're having trouble with your new DarbeeVision product, please send an email to info@darbeevision.com before attempting a return. If DarbeeVision Technical Support cannot resolve your issue, contact DarbeeVision by email, for a return.

If you're having trouble with a DarbeeVision product outside of DarbeeVision's 30 day return policy, please contact us.

http://darbeevision.com/shipping_returns_policy
post #4397 of 6106
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post


You confirmed it works with 1920 x 1080 24, I have said it does not work with Frame Packed 3D 1920 x 2205, that is the correct Frame packed rate for 3D blurays

The Darblet is designed as a parallel processing engine. As such, the best way to envision its performance capability is raw data throughput.

For us, 1080p/60 is really 1920 x 1200 pixels x 10 bits/color x 60 fps. Our circuit has to be able to handle this data throughput.

Once at base band, you can forget about frames.

1080p/24 frame packed 3D (~1080p/48 equivalent) requires much less raw data bandwidth than 1080p/60. Easy for us to handle.

Does our software accurately detect the format information from ALL 3D sources, so that it will properly output the processed image to be properly displayed on all 3D capable devices.....?

That depends upon the reporting of the source device and the display device.

-DD
post #4398 of 6106
Source Oppo 93 ---> Lumagen Radiance XE--->Darbee
> Titan 1090P 3D Dual Ultra contrast.

Content is 3D Bluray Frame packed NATIVE. As Dr. Darbee has state, h Darbee has more than enough bandwidth. I reported this issue in June.

All Blu-ray 3D content is encoded at 1080p/24. However, the two frames are stacked on top of each other. In a rare example of simple nomenclature, this is called frame packing.

With 3D on Blu-ray, each eye gets its own 1,920x1,080-pixel image. These are combined into one extra-tall frame, of which there are 24 per second. 45 pixels of blanking are included (the black space in the middle), resulting in a 1,920x2,205/24 signal.

So I am not clear how people are reporting1920 x 1080 P24 for frame packed 3D when the resulting signal is 1920 x 2205.
post #4399 of 6106
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

Source Oppo 93 ---> Lumagen Radiance XE--->Darbee
> Titan 1090P 3D Dual Ultra contrast.
Content is 3D Bluray Frame packed NATIVE. As Dr. Darbee has state, h Darbee has more than enough bandwidth. I reported this issue in June.
All Blu-ray 3D content is encoded at 1080p/24. However, the two frames are stacked on top of each other. In a rare example of simple nomenclature, this is called frame packing.
With 3D on Blu-ray, each eye gets its own 1,920x1,080-pixel image. These are combined into one extra-tall frame, of which there are 24 per second. 45 pixels of blanking are included (the black space in the middle), resulting in a 1,920x2,205/24 signal.
So I am not clear how people are reporting1920 x 1080 P24 for frame packed 3D when the resulting signal is 1920 x 2205.

I have a dumb question. Does frame packing a progressive 1080p pixel to 2205 with "black space in between, create the effect or equivalent of a 1080i 3D process? More specifically..does frame packing for 3D require an unpacking/interlaced upscaling process with the native 1080p signal? I am just curious about it relative to your explanation.
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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

what did you do with the 3000 DVD's? I ask this because I have a huge collection myself.
and how does the darblet do with DVD's vs Blu-rays's ? I know it does a great job with Blu-rays.

As soon as the blu-ray version of the DVD is announced, I usually replace them to blu-ray.

The Darblet does a very good job in "better"-ing the DVD images but I still prefer watching the blu-ray equivalent of any DVD release.
post #4401 of 6106
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

Source Oppo 93 ---> Lumagen Radiance XE--->Darbee
> Titan 1090P 3D Dual Ultra contrast.

I've been running the following for months:

OPPO 93 -> Lumagen Radiance XS -> Darblet -> JVC RS40

Frame-packed Blu-ray works just fine in my system, and has since the beginning. Do you have up-to-date firmware in the Radiance?
post #4402 of 6106
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

I've been running the following for months:
OPPO 93 -> Lumagen Radiance XS -> Darblet -> JVC RS40
Frame-packed Blu-ray works just fine in my system, and has since the beginning. Do you have up-to-date firmware in the Radiance?

That's very interesing. I have the latest firmware for the XE. What firmware is your Darbee? Thanks
post #4403 of 6106
Any one here with a sony bdp-s790 and darbee?i want to buy one and see the results but any input is welcome
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Any one here with a sony bdp-s790 and darbee?i want to buy one and see the results but any input is welcome
post #4405 of 6106
Any one here with a sony bdp-s790 and darbee?i want to buy one and see the results but any input is welcome
post #4406 of 6106
Hello will a darbee work with a ps3
post #4407 of 6106
PRBR and Cev214, I run both PS3 slim and S790 to my 55" Sony HX720 TVs through a passive switcher through a Darbee Darblet. Even on a 55" viewed from 12ft away the improvements are quite astounding.
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I have been watching blu-ray 3d on computer and Panasonic player since I bought mine without any problems. This unit would not be much use if it didn't pass 3d in this day and age.
post #4409 of 6106
I Have played multiple 3D titles such as:

Abraha Lincoln Vampire Hunter
Pirates! Band of Misfits
Madagascar 3D
Ice Age Continental Drift
Lorax
Piranha 3DD

using various players such as:
PS3
Sony BDP-S790
Panasonic DMP-BDT500
Pioneer Elite BDP-53FD
Oppo BDP-93

none of them shows any problem with the Darblet.
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

PRBR and Cev214, I run both PS3 slim and S790 to my 55" Sony HX720 TVs through a passive switcher through a Darbee Darblet. Even on a 55" viewed from 12ft away the improvements are quite astounding.

thanks for the info i order mine today so lets see how it goes on my set up...since you are an expert on this did you have any advise on the video settings of the 790? texture remaster,etc etc thanks again,my set up is a sony790,yamaha rxa820 and samsung un46d6400 3d tv.since my ps3,computer and blu ray are all conected to the yamaha receiver can i install the darbee on the single hdmi cable that goes to the samsung?
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