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post #4591 of 7856
Hmmm I wonder what's wrong then. I run the WDTV to Pio SC25 to Darblet to 7000u projector. Also on my other setup I run WDTV to Anthem MRX700 to Darblet (a different Darblet -- I have 4 of them) to Pio Kuro Pro 111. Both exhibiting the exact same problem. confused.gif
post #4592 of 7856
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Hmmm I wonder what's wrong then. I run the WDTV to Pio SC25 to Darblet to 7000u projector. Also on my other setup I run WDTV to Anthem MRX700 to Darblet (a different Darblet -- I have 4 of them) to Pio Kuro Pro 111. Both exhibiting the exact same problem. confused.gif

David - I'm sorry - I just checked and I don't have the latest firmware (Version 1.12.14 - 10/29/12) installed on my streamer. And now I'm reluctant to allow the update. Is this when your problems started?

- G
post #4593 of 7856
Yes, don't upgrade yours just yet. My problems arise only after I installed the new firmwares.

However, if I take out the Darblets, the problem is not there.
post #4594 of 7856
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

And this is the archive:
http://twit.tv/show/home-theater-geeks/135

Thanks for the link.
For those who haven't followed the link yet, be prepared for an hour, with the first half hour being about the Universal Remotes. All very interesting, but just to give you a heads up about timing.
post #4595 of 7856
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

I really want to get a Darbee but I have a few questions I am hoping some of you can help me with. Here is my set-up...
-55''GT50
-Samsung 3D blu-ray player/HT in a box (yeah, yeah...I know)
-PS3
-Motorola DCX3400 Cable box

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Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

You may want to scan this thread for "Motorola 3400 cable box." There are known issues with interop and that piece of hardware. You may be able to get your cable company to swap for a different box. Avoid the 6400 series as well.
-DD

Motorola DCX3400 here (with TWC), and no issues with the darbee. Using it with a monoprice switcher and splitter along with Oppo 83SE, Sharp LCD/LED TV and Mits HC3800 projector.

Not sure what 'interop' is?
post #4596 of 7856
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Originally Posted by xplorar View Post

Thanks for the tips! My HDMI cable from media player to Darblet is just 3 feet. After that I have 35 feet run to projector. I will try replacing the short cable to see if it makes any difference.
Unfortunately, my media player doesn't has any 'Deep Color' setting. I am assuming that this means I am not sending 'Deep Color' output to Darbee/Projector.
I do see HDMI Range option both in player as well as projector. I have set it as 'Normal' in both player and projector to avoid any possibility of extended range creeping in. But that hasn't stopped 3D blackouts.
Update - I replaced my 3 feet HDMI cable with first a 5 feet normal speed cable and then later with a high speed 6 feet cable. It didn't fix the '3D blackout' problem.
post #4597 of 7856
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Originally Posted by xplorar View Post

Update - I replaced my 3 feet HDMI cable with first a 5 feet normal speed cable and then later with a high speed 6 feet cable. It didn't fix the '3D blackout' problem.

What brand of cables?
post #4598 of 7856
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

What brand of cables?
From source to Darblet, I tried following cables, but 3d blackouts happened for all at 1080p@24Hz -
3-feet Normal - Blue Jeans Cable (BJC Belden Series-1)
5-feet Normal - Don't know. Came free with my media player. Works fine though.
6-feet High Speed - Dell. Came with my new Dell Monitor

From Darblet to Epson 5010 Projector
35 feet Normal - Monoprice

As I said before, I do not get any 3D blackout when I use resolution 1080p@60Hz
post #4599 of 7856
could be your monoprice cable. I get slight 'pauses' that are quick even before the darbee was on the market. This is just a 2D setup though, and it's a 22 AWG 35 ft run from darblet/receiver to projector. Only happens on certain movies though confused.gif Did you try a different, non monoprice cable from Darblet to projector/display???
Edited by KBMAN - 11/8/12 at 11:20am
post #4600 of 7856
I went to the home theater geeks twit on the Darblet. Pretty interesting, yet technical interview. I felt that Dr Darbee (if you are listening) was, in a way, downplaying his fantastic invention....He seemed very collected and VERY intelligent, but I think he could have pushed the product a little more when the interviewer said that the Darblet was 'expensive'. I totally disagree with that; there are (and were) several 'sharpening' processors out there that cost into the thousands, yet do not do what the darblet does. YES, build quality is kinda shotty, and this has already been discussed many pages ago. With that said, I feel the Darbee Vision Darblet is a steal IMO for what it does.....
post #4601 of 7856
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

I went to the home theater geeks twit on the Darblet. Pretty interesting, yet technical interview. I felt that Dr Darbee (if you are listening) was, in a way, downplaying his fantastic invention....He seemed very collected and VERY intelligent, but I think he could have pushed the product a little more when the interviewer said that the Darblet was 'expensive'. I totally disagree with that; there are (and were) several 'sharpening' processors out there that cost into the thousands, yet do not do what the darblet does. YES, build quality is kinda shotty, and this has already been discussed many pages ago. With that said, I feel the Darbee Vision Darblet is a steal IMO for what it does.....

I have to agree:)
post #4602 of 7856
I agree also!!!!

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post #4603 of 7856
I also agree. Hard to say the cost is high when there is nothing really like it on the market, and it does what it is supposed to do.
post #4604 of 7856
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

I also agree. Hard to say the cost is high when there is nothing really like it on the market, and it does what it is supposed to do.

Some folks still want everything for $99 including shipping and taxes! Doesn't matter that 3 weeks from now, it no longer works. The whole point was, was that `They Got a Deal'!
post #4605 of 7856
Agreed!
post #4606 of 7856
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

could be your monoprice cable. I get slight 'pauses' that are quick even before the darbee was on the market. This is just a 2D setup though, and it's a 22 AWG 35 ft run from darblet/receiver to projector. Only happens on certain movies though confused.gif Did you try a different, non monoprice cable from Darblet to projector/display???
I don't have any other HDMI cable long enough to connect projector to media player. I don't intend to buy another long cable too because there is no certainty that it will fix the problem. This month I will be replacing my media player though. I am hoping that it might do something that may fix the problem. If not, I can always fall back to 1080p@60Hz resolution; it plays 3D with no blackouts.
post #4607 of 7856
xplorar,

you may try something like this and it will certainly solve all your HDMI problems smile.gif

http://www.vidabox.com/products_dr_doctor_hdmi.php

My problem was a bit different but it solved it. I have and HDMI 4 X 2 matrix switch, one output to my EPSON 3D projector and one outpout to my non 3D Samsung TV. I was not able to play 3D on my projector through the HDMI switch, because a 2D display device was in the chain.

I have placed Dr HDMI between my HTCP and the switch forcing the 3D playback. Then the output of the switch goes to my darbee and the output of the darbee to my projector.

I know your problem is a bit different but I think you can solve it with a device like this.
post #4608 of 7856
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Originally Posted by ANDYK48 View Post

xplorar,
you may try something like this and it will certainly solve all your HDMI problems smile.gif
http://www.vidabox.com/products_dr_doctor_hdmi.php
My problem was a bit different but it solved it. I have and HDMI 4 X 2 matrix switch, one output to my EPSON 3D projector and one outpout to my non 3D Samsung TV. I was not able to play 3D on my projector through the HDMI switch, because a 2D display device was in the chain.
I have placed Dr HDMI between my HTCP and the switch forcing the 3D playback. Then the output of the switch goes to my darbee and the output of the darbee to my projector.
I know your problem is a bit different but I think you can solve it with a device like this.
Thanks for the tip! I do happen to have a Monoprice HDMI Amplifier Splitter. I will try placing it between Projector and 35ft cable to see whether it can correct the possibly weak signal. If no success, I will consider buying Dr HDMI.
post #4609 of 7856
xplorar,

I think the 3D blackouts have to do with HDMI handshake issues and the HDMI Amplifier Splitter will not help. But you have nothing to lose if trying out smile.gif
post #4610 of 7856
xplorar,
Go to monoprice.com and use their live chat. Then go to their 'tier one' customer support, or whatever their advanced helpers can do. I believe they have a pretty good return policy. NOW, I would suggest that you try buying/renting another 35ft HDMI cable wink.gif
post #4611 of 7856
I finally had a chance to try a 3d movie from oppo bdp-93 blu-ray to Rotel rsp-1572 pre-amp then to darbee. Then to my Epson 3010. Projector.

As noted by others, I got the video flashing bug therefore could not watch 3d.

I tried turning off deep color on oppo, etc, but same issue.

BUT....

was able to fix it!!!!

Once movie started in 3d and darbee was starting its flashing bug, I decided to try pulling the power off the darbee and putting it back on. To my surprise it worked!!!!!

The flashing was gone.

Seems like when 3d kicks in darbee has hard things making a lock. So unplugging power and putting it back lets it re-lock.

When movie would go back to menu, I got flashing again as framerate was different from menu to movie.
When unplugging darbee again and putting power back, all stable again.

Hope this helps others with same issues.

Also found I like darbee in GF mode at 60%..

Also have Epson using advanced sharpness mode.

Looked stunning!!!

As

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post #4612 of 7856
Can anyone help me with this?
Quote:
Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

I really want to get a Darbee but I have a few questions I am hoping some of you can help me with. Here is my set-up...
-55''GT50
-Samsung 3D blu-ray player/HT in a box (yeah, yeah...I know)
-PS3
-Motorola DCX3400 Cable box
As you can see I don't have an AVR (and don't currently have the funds to buy one) to run the Darbee out of and into the TV, but I do want to use the Darbee on all sources/inputs. So I think I will need to use an HDMI swithcer. I also want to get a Harmony remote to control ALL devices (I don't really need it for the Darbee itself). I am hoping I don't need a crazy expensive remote, but for my wifes sake, I do want to be able to use the "one touch" buttons on the Harmony to watch movies/cable/game/etc without having to control or change inputs on any of the devices individually, including the HDMI switcher (only
exception would maybe be the darbee). My questions are...
Will this work? Has anyone tryed it?
and
Can anyone suggest a Harmony under $80/90 and a HDMI switcher under $40 that will all work together?
I see no-name switchers online for about $15 but I'm not sure they will work with the Harmony and the Rocketfish switcher at BB is $80!!
Any help will be much appreciated.
post #4613 of 7856
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Originally Posted by muad'dib View Post

I finally had a chance to try a 3d movie from oppo bdp-93 blu-ray to Rotel rsp-1572 pre-amp then to darbee. Then to my Epson 3010. Projector.
As noted by others, I got the video flashing bug therefore could not watch 3d.
I tried turning off deep color on oppo, etc, but same issue.
BUT....
was able to fix it!!!!
Once movie started in 3d and darbee was starting its flashing bug, I decided to try pulling the power off the darbee and putting it back on. To my surprise it worked!!!!!
The flashing was gone.
Seems like when 3d kicks in darbee has hard things making a lock. So unplugging power and putting it back lets it re-lock.
When movie would go back to menu, I got flashing again as framerate was different from menu to movie.
When unplugging darbee again and putting power back, all stable again.
Hope this helps others with same issues.
Also found I like darbee in GF mode at 60%..
Also have Epson using advanced sharpness mode.
Looked stunning!!!
As
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Interesting to read about this issue. I do not experience any issues with 3D and my Darbee. BTW, what are you referring to as GF moe? AFAIK there is only HD, Game, and POP modes?
post #4614 of 7856
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Originally Posted by muad'dib View Post

I finally had a chance to try a 3d movie from oppo bdp-93 blu-ray to Rotel rsp-1572 pre-amp then to darbee. Then to my Epson 3010. Projector.
As noted by others, I got the video flashing bug therefore could not watch 3d.
I tried turning off deep color on oppo, etc, but same issue.
BUT....
was able to fix it!!!!
Once movie started in 3d and darbee was starting its flashing bug, I decided to try pulling the power off the darbee and putting it back on. To my surprise it worked!!!!!
The flashing was gone.
Seems like when 3d kicks in darbee has hard things making a lock. So unplugging power and putting it back lets it re-lock.
When movie would go back to menu, I got flashing again as framerate was different from menu to movie.
When unplugging darbee again and putting power back, all stable again.
Hope this helps others with same issues.
Also found I like darbee in GF mode at 60%..
Also have Epson using advanced sharpness mode.
Looked stunning!!!
As
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Thanks for tip, buddy! This sounds promising, Will try it out tonight. It's cool of you to figure it out and fix this on your own!
Is it possible to use 'Advanced Sharpness' of Epson PJ in 3D mode? I think it becomes disabled in 3D mode.
post #4615 of 7856
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Originally Posted by KBMAN View Post

xplorar,
Go to monoprice.com and use their live chat. Then go to their 'tier one' customer support, or whatever their advanced helpers can do. I believe they have a pretty good return policy. NOW, I would suggest that you try buying/renting another 35ft HDMI cable wink.gif
It may be possible but it has been more than an year since I have been using this cable. It will feel awkward trying getting it returned. At this point, I hope 'muad'dib' workaround works for me. BTW, I didn't know that HDMI cables could be rented.
post #4616 of 7856
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Originally Posted by lovingdvd View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by muad'dib View Post

I finally had a chance to try a 3d movie from oppo bdp-93 blu-ray to Rotel rsp-1572 pre-amp then to darbee. Then to my Epson 3010. Projector.
As noted by others, I got the video flashing bug therefore could not watch 3d.
I tried turning off deep color on oppo, etc, but same issue.
BUT....
was able to fix it!!!!
Once movie started in 3d and darbee was starting its flashing bug, I decided to try pulling the power off the darbee and putting it back on. To my surprise it worked!!!!!
The flashing was gone.
Seems like when 3d kicks in darbee has hard things making a lock. So unplugging power and putting it back lets it re-lock.
When movie would go back to menu, I got flashing again as framerate was different from menu to movie.
When unplugging darbee again and putting power back, all stable again.
Hope this helps others with same issues.
Also found I like darbee in GF mode at 60%..
Also have Epson using advanced sharpness mode.
Looked stunning!!!
As
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Interesting to read about this issue. I do not experience any issues with 3D and my Darbee. BTW, what are you referring to as GF moe? AFAIK there is only HD, Game, and POP modes?

I was meaning HD mode sorry. Got to love spell check. LOL

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post #4617 of 7856
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Originally Posted by xplorar View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by muad'dib View Post

I finally had a chance to try a 3d movie from oppo bdp-93 blu-ray to Rotel rsp-1572 pre-amp then to darbee. Then to my Epson 3010. Projector.
As noted by others, I got the video flashing bug therefore could not watch 3d.
I tried turning off deep color on oppo, etc, but same issue.
BUT....
was able to fix it!!!!
Once movie started in 3d and darbee was starting its flashing bug, I decided to try pulling the power off the darbee and putting it back on. To my surprise it worked!!!!!
The flashing was gone.
Seems like when 3d kicks in darbee has hard things making a lock. So unplugging power and putting it back lets it re-lock.
When movie would go back to menu, I got flashing again as framerate was different from menu to movie.
When unplugging darbee again and putting power back, all stable again.
Hope this helps others with same issues.
Also found I like darbee in GF mode at 60%..
Also have Epson using advanced sharpness mode.
Looked stunning!!!
As
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Thanks for tip, buddy! This sounds promising, Will try it out tonight. It's cool of you to figure it out and fix this on your own!
Is it possible to use 'Advanced Sharpness' of Epson PJ in 3D mode? I think it becomes disabled in 3D mode.

For 3d mode on Epson you are correct. Advanced sharpness is not there. So I just turn normal sharpness to full on Epson

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post #4618 of 7856
Quote:
Originally Posted by ANDYK48 View Post

xplorar,
you may try something like this and it will certainly solve all your HDMI problems smile.gif
http://www.vidabox.com/products_dr_doctor_hdmi.php
My problem was a bit different but it solved it. I have and HDMI 4 X 2 matrix switch, one output to my EPSON 3D projector and one outpout to my non 3D Samsung TV. I was not able to play 3D on my projector through the HDMI switch, because a 2D display device was in the chain.
I have placed Dr HDMI between my HTCP and the switch forcing the 3D playback. Then the output of the switch goes to my darbee and the output of the darbee to my projector.
I know your problem is a bit different but I think you can solve it with a device like this.
Certainly? Are you absolutely sure that this thing will stop the black flashing and make the thing work in 3d for espon projectors? If so I would get it. Sucks I can't get 3d right now with darbee on epson tw9000 frown.gif
I also watch from computer to epson.
(the turning on and off of darbe as 3d is on did not work for me, still blackouts)
edit: I found the hdmi doctor on ebay uk so shipment should go a bit faster to swe, I ordered since they accept returns if it doesn't work... It's got to work....!
Edited by maxfilm - 11/10/12 at 1:39pm
post #4619 of 7856
As I have read most of the posts in this thread, it seems that the 'blackouts' in 3D seem to be with the newer Epson projectors.....
post #4620 of 7856
When starting 3d movie and you get blinking unplug power groom darbee then put back in. 3d will now work until you go back into menu.

I have Epson projector also

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