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post #4741 of 7863
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Originally Posted by sdrucker View Post

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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Regarding the Harmony DB, not when I looked several weeks ago. However, it only takes a few minutes to learn the commands, since there are so few.

It's there now. I found it under 'Audio/Video Switch', 'Darbee Vision' manufacturer, and the 'DVP 5000' model, with the latest Harmony software (7.7.0) and installed it on my Harmony 900 a couple of days ago. Try doing the network update and see if it turns up.

The menu could be organized better--more Darbee and less Darbee fit on separate pages:(.

Thx for posting this, I just added the DVP 5000 to my Harmony 890.
post #4742 of 7863
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Originally Posted by elphillips View Post

In a half hour, I'm curious to see what the Darbee does for the tv program NCIS. The picture quality for this popular program has always looked like SD being ran on an HD channel. It's like it doesn't have enough bandwidth and the resolution is downgraded.
That must be a local issue. It isn't that way in my area.
post #4743 of 7863
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

That must be a local issue. It isn't that way in my area.

Actually no, it has been discussed in other forums often - NCIS has a muddied or smeared, or less sharp - (you pick the term) look. It is particularly noticeable when they are in their office but other scenes too. It's obvious this is done on purpose, best guess is one or more of the stars asked for it. This is the pretty much the #1 show on TV - no one can think it's because of cutting corners. Compare it to Hawaii 5-0 or CSI, same network and there is now way anyone could say they appear the same.
I don't think the darbee has done much to improve it, which actually makes sense. As we know the better the PQ the better the darbee works.
Edited by tampa8 - 11/21/12 at 10:38am
post #4744 of 7863
Any one using darbee with Oppo bdp83 and Panasonic projector PTAE200u? How much improvement is noted? How you chain the darbee with the rest gears?
post #4745 of 7863
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Originally Posted by kwok lau View Post

Any one using darbee with Oppo bdp83 and Panasonic projector PTAE200u? How much improvement is noted? How you chain the darbee with the rest gears?

83 with PT 7000 and works great.   Darbee at Output of my Anthem D2v 3' HDMI, then 35' to Panny

post #4746 of 7863
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Originally Posted by bimmer67 View Post

I tried it today on my 65VT50, I honestly couldn't tell any difference. Used BluRay and DirecTV sources. Started with HD 50 and tried various settings. I connected it between my VSX53 and the Panny. Everything worked fine, I just didn't see any noticeable improvement.

Don't feel bad my friend.

My Darblet lasted less than 24 hours in my set up with my 65" VT50.

My biggest use for the Darblet was to clean up DirecTV images on my HR34. I put it after my Onkyo 5009 and into the VT50 so the Darblet was the last item in my chain.

Did I see a difference? Yes I did. Images were a bit sharper but not necessarily better, they definitely weren't $300 better to me. I did not see the same type of improvement that is displayed on the images on their site.

60% HD was the limit for enhancing the picture without making it look over-processed to my eyes.

Then switching between Darbee/no Darbee, I could not justify the enhancement for the cost.

Maybe I will give a new version of a Darbee product a try in the future.
post #4747 of 7863
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Originally Posted by liltalkm View Post

Don't feel bad my friend.
My Darblet lasted less than 24 hours in my set up with my 65" VT50.
My biggest use for the Darblet was to clean up DirecTV images on my HR34. I put it after my Onkyo 5009 and into the VT50 so the Darblet was the last item in my chain.
Did I see a difference? Yes I did. Images were a bit sharper but not necessarily better, they definitely weren't $300 better to me. I did not see the same type of improvement that is displayed on the images on their site.
60% HD was the limit for enhancing the picture without making it look over-processed to my eyes.
Then switching between Darbee/no Darbee, I could not justify the enhancement for the cost.
Maybe I will give a new version of a Darbee product a try in the future.
Leave it on for 2 weeks or something. Then turn it off and see if you feel the same. smile.gif

edit: btw, 45% is more than enough for almost all HD material imo. Blurry material can usually be set around 70ish without having ppl look like trolls. smile.gif
post #4748 of 7863
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Originally Posted by wingnut4772 View Post

Tonight I was watching TV. No issues. Then I hit "Watch Movie" on my Harmony and when the Oppo came on , Pink Screen. I had to turn everything off and then hit "Watch Movie" No pink screen then. This seems to be happening mostly when I switch from another input to movie.

"Flashes, no audio, or pink screen are usually caused by a bad DDC line."

http://www.techradar.com/news/home-cinema/high-definition/common-hdmi-problems-and-solutions-923327

I used to get the pink screen occasionally between my WDTV Live and my HDTV plasma. I replaced the 6 foot HDMI and the pink screen problem disappeared.
post #4749 of 7863
Received my unit from Solid Signal yesterday. I must say that it does sharpen a bit, but I was mostly surprised by the depth/3D effect it gives! And I'm not talking about what we all think of these days with the term "3D". Reminds me of the 3D depth improvements of good ole' CRT. I am just blown away by it. It appears to add shadow detail if that is possible.

I will say that it is important to find a good scene for on/off comparisons. Just turn it on and off constantly while watching something until you find a good scene that really shows it off.

**I am unfortunately getting some tearing/wavy horizontal artifacts on HD mode, 40%. Source is an HTPC - 1080P 60Hz - very clean source - and found a scene where it is repeatable. Consistently tears when on and doesn't when off. Should I upgrade to higher quality HDMI cables like the Monoprice Ultra Slim Series High Performance RedMere cables? I have tried switching to different modes such as gaming and pop and different strength levels and it is still happening. It is somewhat sad because I have not seen any posts so far on tearing issues.
Edited by CoryW - 11/21/12 at 10:29am
post #4750 of 7863
I would check all your connections, and are your outlets grounded? Not hint of tearing\wavyness for me.
post #4751 of 7863
I bought a second Darbee not necessarily to use together but because of my set-up to enable getting both my satellite receiver, and Blu-ray player to use it, I need two. (My wife does not like going through the audio receiver, so I have it set so she uses the TV directly from the satellite box.)
But the way I connected everything, I do have both Darbee's being used when I switch inputs to my audio receiver, where the satellite receiver is also attached,which has the first Darbee, along with the Blu-ray and Roku. I then have a second Darbee between the audio receiver and the TV. Thus anything coming from the audio receiver passes through the Darbee - that one Darbee only for the Blu-ray and Roku, but both Darbee's when using the satellite receiver which is coming from an HDMI splitter.
I can't say it's worth buying a second just to have two inline. But I can say it makes a difference. Like another poster, I found the first Darbee on about 50 to 55% Game or HD, and the second at about 15-20% POP adds even a little more depth, by doing what the pop mode does, darkens/blackens shaded areas without losing lightness grading. Still no artifacts, even a little more sharpness and still not artificial looking. When I turn them both off and then on during Hawaii 5-0 it's the Wow factor. Again, just one Darbee really is sufficient, and produces nearly the same improvement. But I can't deny the second one adds just a little more.

No one can say if something is worth it monetarily for someone else. For me, the price of a Darbee is well, well, worth it. I know of no other device on the market, certainly in that price range that does what the Darbee does. The detail, down to the stubble on men adds alot to the enjoyment of watching TV/movies.
post #4752 of 7863
Yes I did. I will try switching out the HDMI.
post #4753 of 7863
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Originally Posted by CoryW View Post

**I am unfortunately getting some tearing/wavy horizontal artifacts on HD mode, 40%. Source is an HTPC - 1080P 60Hz - very clean source - and found a scene where it is repeatable. Consistently tears when on and doesn't when off. Should I upgrade to higher quality HDMI cables like the Monoprice Ultra Slim Series High Performance RedMere cables? I have tried switching to different modes such as gaming and pop and different strength levels and it is still happening. It is somewhat sad because I have not seen any posts so far on tearing issues.
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

I would check all your connections, and are your outlets grounded? Not hint of tearing\wavyness for me.

But like I previously mentioned, the tearing/wavy issue goes away when I turn the Darbee off. So I don't think it is a connection issue. But maybe an HDMI issue of some sort. Please keep the suggestions coming. Thanks!
post #4754 of 7863
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

Actually no, it has been discussed in other forums often - NCIS has a muddied or smeared, or less sharp - (you pick the term) look. It is particularly noticeable when they are in their office but other scenes too. It's obvious this is done on purpose, best guess is one or more of the stars asked for it. This is the pretty much the #1 show on TV - no one can think it's because of cutting corners. Compare it to Hawaii 5-0 or CSI, same network and there is now way anyone could say they appear the same.
I don't think the darbee has done much to improve it, which actually makes sense. As we know the better the PQ the better the darbee works.

We watch it every week but I've never thought the picture looked anything remotely like SD content since I'm still able to see alot of detail in the background. Even more with the Darblet in place.
post #4755 of 7863
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

We watch it every week but I've never thought the picture looked anything remotely like SD content since I'm still able to see alot of detail in the background. Even more with the Darblet in place.

I think you may reading into what I'm saying. It's not SD, it's HD, but most certainly not the same clear sharp picture other CBS shows are. I am surprised you don't see the difference. Here is two of many places that have talked about it, none of these posts are mine.

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/ncis-picture-quality-on-cbs.244221/

http://www.avsforum.com/t/543002/ncis-on-cbs-hd/690
post #4756 of 7863
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Originally Posted by CoryW View Post

Received my unit from Solid Signal yesterday. I must say that it does sharpen a bit, but I was mostly surprised by the depth/3D effect it gives! And I'm not talking about what we all think of these days with the term "3D". Reminds me of the 3D depth improvements of good ole' CRT. I am just blown away by it. It appears to add shadow detail if that is possible.

I will say that it is important to find a good scene for on/off comparisons. Just turn it on and off constantly while watching something until you find a good scene that really shows it off.

**I am unfortunately getting some tearing/wavy horizontal artifacts on HD mode, 40%. Source is an HTPC - 1080P 60Hz - very clean source - and found a scene where it is repeatable. Consistently tears when on and doesn't when off. Should I upgrade to higher quality HDMI cables like the Monoprice Ultra Slim Series High Performance RedMere cables? I have tried switching to different modes such as gaming and pop and different strength levels and it is still happening. It is somewhat sad because I have not seen any posts so far on tearing issues.
it might be your htpc setup. I have seen this before with different players on PC and video delivered.
Have hence why I don't use PC anymore for ht material

Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2
post #4757 of 7863
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

I think you may reading into what I'm saying. It's not SD, it's HD, but most certainly not the same clear sharp picture other CBS shows are. I am surprised you don't see the difference. Here is two of many places that have talked about it, none of these posts are mine.
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/ncis-picture-quality-on-cbs.244221/
http://www.avsforum.com/t/543002/ncis-on-cbs-hd/690
NCIS has always had that soft focus. The larger the display, the worse it looks.
post #4758 of 7863
People still watch NCIS? J/K... I watch that show all the time. Hate the cinematography, though.
post #4759 of 7863
Thank for ur advice, Texas Steve.
post #4760 of 7863
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Originally Posted by muad'dib View Post

it might be your htpc setup. I have seen this before with different players on PC and video delivered.
Have hence why I don't use PC anymore for ht material
Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2

Thanks for pushing me to do even more testing...

**Sure enough, it was a false positive. I could have sworn it went away when I turned off the Darbee. Oh well, either way it was the source after all. My bad.

The Darblet is my new best friend. Never thought I could take my Mitsubishi HC-3800 to the next level like this. Thanks again!
post #4761 of 7863
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Originally Posted by CoryW View Post

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Originally Posted by muad'dib View Post

it might be your htpc setup. I have seen this before with different players on PC and video delivered.
Have hence why I don't use PC anymore for ht material
Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2

Thanks for pushing me to do even more testing...

**Sure enough, it was a false positive. I could have sworn it went away when I turned off the Darbee. Oh well, either way it was the source after all. My bad.

The Darblet is my new best friend. Never thought I could take my Mitsubishi HC-3800 to the next level like this. Thanks again!
glad to see you found the cause.. LOL.

Now enjoy!!!!! LOL

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post #4762 of 7863

Just had my darblet default back to factory settings.  This is the third time overall (in a couple months) but the first time it did it when I wasn't changing any of the settings.  Was just switching sources on my system and there appeared to be a HDMI handshake issue and when the picture came out the Darbee was at defaults.

post #4763 of 7863
Two Brother-in-Laws here for dinner, both have higher end TV's, one installs TV systems in Restaurants and bars. I said nothing about the Darbee, commercial was on with Rodgers from Green Bay in front of the classroom. When they saw his face and the clarity of his whiskers etc... they were as impressed as I have ever seen them about a TV picture. The the game itself they remarked how clear/sharp everything is, and asked if I had a pro calibration. Both are buying a Darbee.
post #4764 of 7863
Surprise Black Friday special is on the darblet wink.gif
Edited by Cleveland Plasma - 11/23/12 at 8:34am
post #4765 of 7863
What site?
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Surprise Black Friday special is on the darbelt wink.gif
post #4766 of 7863
I got one of my Darblets from you. But it was through your ebay sales. I was very pleased.

If someone has been holding off on getting the Darblet because of the price, I guess now is the time to get it.,
post #4767 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Surprise Black Friday special is on the darbelt wink.gif

What's a Darbelt? . tongue.gif Is that the new model? hehe
post #4768 of 7863
Is there any reason to send back an early issue Darbee for firmware and software upgrades to ostensibly improve its performance if no evident problems have been encountered?


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post #4769 of 7863
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Originally Posted by ajglass View Post

Is there any reason to send back an early issue Darbee for firmware and software upgrades to ostensibly improve its performance if no evident problems have been encountered?
Sent from my iPad

I am pretty sure that all the FW upgrades have been to fix known problems.  None have altered the processing algorithms to improve PQ.  So no, if you are not experiencing any problems, there should be no value to returning the unit for an upgrade.

post #4770 of 7863
It would go on sale right after i purchased one.
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