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post #5371 of 6299
1/14/13 at 3:30am
If I am using the following setup:
PS3 3d via hdmi 1.3 --> 3D VIP Theater via hdmi 1.3 --> panasonic AE4000 projector (this works for 3D), and
EGreat Media Player SBS 3D mkv files via hdmi 1.3 --> 3D VIP Theater via hdmi 1.3 --> panasonic AE4000 projector (this also works for 3D),
can I actually get the Darbee Cobalt to process my 3d material instead of the Darblet??? Maybe save a few dollars?
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post #5372 of 6299
1/14/13 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by avswilier View Post

If I am using the following setup:
PS3 3d via hdmi 1.3 --> 3D VIP Theater via hdmi 1.3 --> panasonic AE4000 projector (this works for 3D), and
EGreat Media Player SBS 3D mkv files via hdmi 1.3 --> 3D VIP Theater via hdmi 1.3 --> panasonic AE4000 projector (this also works for 3D),
can I actually get the Darbee Cobalt to process my 3d material instead of the Darblet??? Maybe save a few dollars?

Cobalt is an HDMI 1.3 compatible product and as such will not support 3D of any format. If a 3D source device sends the Cobalt 3D video, the source device will report to the user that 3D is not supported by the down stream video chain.

-DD
Edited by DarbeeDr - 1/14/13 at 1:15pm
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post #5373 of 6299
1/15/13 at 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

Cobalt is an HDMI 1.3 compatible product and as such will not support 3D of any format. If a 3D source device sends the Cobalt 3D video, the source device will report to the user that 3D is not supported by the down stream video chain.

-DD

Dear DD

Thanks for the reply.
I ordered 2 Darblets in the end, just for future compatibility with all 3D and HDMI 1.4 devices.
I bought from Solid Signal but will be using the device in HK, which uses the straight 3 power plug. Can I simply by an adapter to change the US plug to a HK plug?

Just out of interest:
In this unique situation: there is 3D VIP Theater in the chain, which accepts an HDMI 1.3 signal (either SBS / Top Down / PS3 frame packed) and then outputs via alternate Left View (30fps) and Right View (30fps), before outputting these on an HDMI 1.3 cable to the projector... the dongle attached to the Theater will sync the glasses with these alternating Left and Right frames.

Wouldn't a Cobalt just interpret the above Theater output (HDMI 1.3) as a standard 60fps stream and provide the necessary refinement prior to passing on the refined signal to the projector?
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post #5374 of 6299
1/16/13 at 2:37am
Can a HTPC not create the sharpening effects as good as the Darbee?
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post #5375 of 6299
1/16/13 at 9:11am
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Originally Posted by avswilier View Post

Dear DD

Thanks for the reply.
I ordered 2 Darblets in the end, just for future compatibility with all 3D and HDMI 1.4 devices.
I bought from Solid Signal but will be using the device in HK, which uses the straight 3 power plug. Can I simply by an adapter to change the US plug to a HK plug?

Just out of interest:
In this unique situation: there is 3D VIP Theater in the chain, which accepts an HDMI 1.3 signal (either SBS / Top Down / PS3 frame packed) and then outputs via alternate Left View (30fps) and Right View (30fps), before outputting these on an HDMI 1.3 cable to the projector... the dongle attached to the Theater will sync the glasses with these alternating Left and Right frames.

Wouldn't a Cobalt just interpret the above Theater output (HDMI 1.3) as a standard 60fps stream and provide the necessary refinement prior to passing on the refined signal to the projector?

"Cobalt will work in that setup. It should be placed after the 3D VIP Theater for the best quality." - DVP Engineering

-DD
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post #5376 of 6299
1/16/13 at 9:26am
I don't know about replacing the adapter but I see no reason a US -> HK power adapter, such as you find in Brookstone and airport gift shops, wouldn't work.
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post #5377 of 6299
1/16/13 at 9:46am
Thanks for the comprehensive feedback from dr Darbee and solid signal smile.gif look forward to using the darblets😃
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post #5378 of 6299
1/16/13 at 10:05am
Well last night I had my first Factory reset. I turned off the TV but I always leave the Darblet and DVR on all the time and when I went back downstairs an hour later it was reset. No power outage or any other thing that could trip it to do that. confused.gif
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post #5379 of 6299
1/17/13 at 11:04pm
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Originally Posted by jamieuk147 View Post

Can a HTPC not create the sharpening effects as good as the Darbee?

Not to the extent of sharpness it gives. You can play with settings in a HTPC but nothing will give you the clarity the darbee does.
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post #5380 of 6299
1/18/13 at 1:22am
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Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

"Cobalt will work in that setup. It should be placed after the 3D VIP Theater for the best quality." - DVP Engineering

-DD

DarbeeDr,
I have read some comments about problems with RGB color processing (???) into a Darblet. Is this only related to having a Lumagen device?

I will be using PS3 --> Darblet --> AE4000 projector. Are there any specific settings I should select/avoid on the PS3 Display/HDMI/Bluray settings menu for optimal quality and stability?

Thanks in advance
WL
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post #5381 of 6299
1/18/13 at 8:34am
is there any dealer that sells darbee in dubai? A friend of mine will fly to dubai
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post #5382 of 6299
1/18/13 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by avswilier View Post

DarbeeDr,
I have read some comments about problems with RGB color processing (???) into a Darblet. Is this only related to having a Lumagen device?

I will be using PS3 --> Darblet --> AE4000 projector. Are there any specific settings I should select/avoid on the PS3 Display/HDMI/Bluray settings menu for optimal quality and stability?

Thanks in advance
WL

Just turn off 'deep color' in the PS3 and you'll be good to go....at this point, you should be in the 4:2:2 color space
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post #5383 of 6299
1/19/13 at 7:03am
Hi guys,

There is a GB going on in the local forum that we are on and a couple of members who want to buy the Darbee asked a few specific questions that I would like to put forward to you AVS'ers if thats ok?

Is the color space issue fixed?

Some people had a few problems with the Darbee when using our AV receivers as a switcher....is that fixed?..or is it a specifc problem to a specific brand or something?

Cheers and hope to hear from you all soon! smile.gif
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post #5384 of 6299
1/19/13 at 8:28am
What is the color space issue? Mine works with 4:4:4, 4:2:2,and RGB. But all my content is sent to it as 1080P24/60 at 36 bit 4:4:4 from my video processor. The only issue I've had is when I've sent 30bit to it. 24 bit and 36 bit has not caused me any issues.
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post #5385 of 6299
1/19/13 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by jamieuk147 View Post

Can a HTPC not create the sharpening effects as good as the Darbee?

Definitely not and I am not sure I would even call it just sharpening.
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post #5386 of 6299
1/19/13 at 3:53pm
Hooked up my Darblet the other night and it definately delivers all that it is advertised to do. It's fun experimenting with the different settings. Seems to depend on the quality of the source. Some blurays can only use HD 40-50. Others can go to 80. Directv HD works similarly. Haven't tried any STD def since I generally don't watch the stuff.

Avatar looks amazing at HD 80 or POP 40-50.

I'm using a Sherwood 972 AVR to switch sources to a Mits HD3800 at 106" from 9.5ft. in a bat cave.

The only thing that concerns me is the Darblet doesn't seem to power down. I'm worried that 24/7 365 might brick the bugger at some point in time. So I'm thinking of rigging it so I can remove power via remote control. Anyone have any thoughts on whether powering it down after each use would be a bad idea?
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post #5387 of 6299
1/20/13 at 12:33am
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Originally Posted by buddhamus View Post

Hi guys,

There is a GB going on in the local forum that we are on and a couple of members who want to buy the Darbee asked a few specific questions that I would like to put forward to you AVS'ers if thats ok?

Is the color space issue fixed?

Some people had a few problems with the Darbee when using our AV receivers as a switcher....is that fixed?..or is it a specifc problem to a specific brand or something?

Cheers and hope to hear from you all soon! smile.gif

I recall there was an issue with Lumagen that was addressed and dealing with hdmi handshakes and varying components, can always be problematic. I think here, there have been more people return the unit because they didn't like it, (which seem to be very few) vs the people that just couldn't get it to work in their setups.
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post #5388 of 6299
1/20/13 at 12:35am
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Originally Posted by .jss designs View Post

Hooked up my Darblet the other night and it definately delivers all that it is advertised to do. It's fun experimenting with the different settings. Seems to depend on the quality of the source. Some blurays can only use HD 40-50. Others can go to 80. Directv HD works similarly. Haven't tried any STD def since I generally don't watch the stuff.

Avatar looks amazing at HD 80 or POP 40-50.

I'm using a Sherwood 972 AVR to switch sources to a Mits HD3800 at 106" from 9.5ft. in a bat cave.

The only thing that concerns me is the Darblet doesn't seem to power down. I'm worried that 24/7 365 might brick the bugger at some point in time. So I'm thinking of rigging it so I can remove power via remote control. Anyone have any thoughts on whether powering it down after each use would be a bad idea?

That was addressed by Darbee, it was designed to always have power, but saving some cents on electric can't hurt and some people set it up on power strips to shut it down.
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post #5389 of 6299
1/20/13 at 1:45am
Hi! I bought the darbee when it first came out and got it shipped to sweden from smarthome. After a couple of weeks I read that it only works in rgb and needed a firmware upgrade
to handle all the colourspaces and improve handshaking.

Is there anywhere nearer to Sweden to get this done or does it still need to be shipped all the way to The USA??
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post #5390 of 6299
1/20/13 at 5:25am
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

Panasonic's Detail Clarity is different from the Darbee. I have it turned off on my Panasonic projector. The Darbee is all I want to see, no other processing.
http://www.projectorreviews.com/panasonic/pt-ae4000/index.php

The AE8000 Detail Clarity processor is improved over the AE4000 model but will still introduce artifacts when over-cranked.
What WON'T introduce artifacts when over cranked? :-)
Love my darbee with my panny 7000. Unlike some people I have had no issues at all with using short cables in my system. I think the only cable I have longer than 2 feet is the one from the receiver to the projector. numerous cables 1 to 2 feet long...
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post #5391 of 6299
1/20/13 at 7:25am
Ive seen people in this thread buying 2 Darbees and using it in there system?....what is the benefit of doing that?, or have I misread it and they got it to for 2 different displays?! lol
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post #5392 of 6299
1/20/13 at 10:25am
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Originally Posted by hometheatergeek View Post

Well last night I had my first Factory reset. I turned off the TV but I always leave the Darblet and DVR on all the time and when I went back downstairs an hour later it was reset. No power outage or any other thing that could trip it to do that. confused.gif

Mine did this yesterday as well. No power outages either.
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post #5393 of 6299
1/20/13 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by batborsen View Post

Hi! I bought the darbee when it first came out and got it shipped to sweden from smarthome. After a couple of weeks I read that it only works in rgb and needed a firmware upgrade
to handle all the colourspaces and improve handshaking.

Is there anywhere nearer to Sweden to get this done or does it still need to be shipped all the way to The USA??

I also wonder about that, cant we do upgrade firmware ourselfs?
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post #5394 of 6299
1/20/13 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by cemo62 View Post

I also wonder about that, cant we do upgrade firmware ourselfs?

Nope - the Darblet has no online update/repair capabilities. When updates are necessary - the owner must send their Darblet back to the manufacturer for the update.
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post #5395 of 6299
1/20/13 at 2:29pm
My little review about the darbee with a couple of pics and measurements is online now :

http://www.micromedia33.fr/boitiers-et-passerelles-multimedias/520-processeur-video-darbee-darblet-dvp5000.html

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post #5396 of 6299
1/20/13 at 3:29pm
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Originally Posted by .jss designs View Post

The only thing that concerns me is the Darblet doesn't seem to power down. I'm worried that 24/7 365 might brick the bugger at some point in time.

Mine has been powered up since the first week of May last year. I wouldn't be concerned about disconnecting power.
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post #5397 of 6299
1/20/13 at 6:57pm
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Originally Posted by kraine View Post

My little review about the darbee with a couple of pics and measurements is online now :

http://www.micromedia33.fr/boitiers-et-passerelles-multimedias/520-processeur-video-darbee-darblet-dvp5000.html

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Thanks! I don't believe there is anything else like it at this time.
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post #5398 of 6299
1/20/13 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by buddhamus View Post

Ive seen people in this thread buying 2 Darbees and using it in there system?....what is the benefit of doing that?, or have I misread it and they got it to for 2 different displays?! lol

One darbee would allow a 40% HD setting. With two you could also add in a 40% POP setting. Basically it allows them to combine two different settings, and get the added nuances of each.
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post #5399 of 6299
1/20/13 at 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

Nope - the Darblet has no online update/repair capabilities. When updates are necessary - the owner must send their Darblet back to the manufacturer for the update.
And the owner pays for one way shipping I suppose? or return shipping to? The least they can do when its their responsibilty to have a working product in the first place...
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post #5400 of 6299
1/21/13 at 5:52am
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Originally Posted by batborsen View Post

And the owner pays for one way shipping I suppose? or return shipping to? The least they can do when its their responsibilty to have a working product in the first place...

What isn't working on your unit?
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