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post #5491 of 6140
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Originally Posted by hodges69 View Post

Well,after playing around with the Darbee for a week.....I found that while I truly like what the device does...I am sending it back to Amazon...3 factory re-sets in week is a bit to much for the price I paid...If,in the future,Darbee offers a unit that performs well,I will consider it...Until then,i have to return it.....I think this is inherent to the unit...unless Darbee offers another unit that fixes this issue that i am unaware of,i feel i have no other choice.

I suggest contacting Amazon and asking for a replacement unit since many users do not report the factory reset issue and you are otherwise pleased with the results
post #5492 of 6140
Thanks...but after reading the below..I will wait and repurchase when this is fixed.

"Tom,

You have the most current firmware.

Unfortunately we don't have a fix for that issue yet.

We will let you know when a solution becomes available.

Best,
Larry"

The above is an email from Larry Pace at Darbee
post #5493 of 6140
Two Darbee's, one had a factory reset once. The other never. Even if it did from time to time still worth it to me. Such an improvement it really adds to the enjoyment of TV/Blu-Ray.
post #5494 of 6140
As much as I enjoyed the unit....still a lot of bucks to pay for something that interrupts what you are watching.....but,as I recall.... This only happened when watching netflix....
Just wondering if anyone else has the same issue streaming netflix?
post #5495 of 6140
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Originally Posted by nikolausp View Post

Thanks.

I bought my receiver because one of the selling features was that it upscaled to 1080p.... then after I get it, I found out that it doesn't touch 1080i or 720p. :-(

Is the Darbee worth getting if I can't send my TV anything better than 720p or 1080i? Is the Darbee best used with 1080p content?

Of course it is, I think you are not getting what a Darbee does. Take some time and read the posts about people's experience with it.
post #5496 of 6140
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Originally Posted by hodges69 View Post

As much as I enjoyed the unit....still a lot of bucks to pay for something that interrupts what you are watching.....but,as I recall.... This only happened when watching netflix....
Just wondering if anyone else has the same issue streaming netflix?

Why are you returning it since it only happens with netfix?
post #5497 of 6140
Why? Because when I purchase something,I expect it to be fully functional.....if I paid half the price,I would expect the same thing....The email from Larry at darbee confirms there is a known issue.....and the fact that it can only be addressed by sending it back to the manufacturer irratates me...I am not questioning the level of customer service..I. Am most pleased with the speed of the reply..I will repurchase when this issue no longer exists ..as I only have a 3 week window left to return it to Amazon,I felt the issue would take longer than that to fix....
post #5498 of 6140
If Netflix is your primary or only form or watching TV with an HDMI connection I certainly would agree with you. Otherwise, no, I don't expect electronics to be 100% perfect. If I did I wouldn't have a Dish network receiver, a Direct TV receiver, A cable box. or my Pioneer audio receiver among many electronics. My Smartphone resets sometimes when I use a particular messaging app, but that doesn't mean I don't use it for everything else.
post #5499 of 6140
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Originally Posted by nikolausp View Post

Thanks.

I bought my receiver because one of the selling features was that it upscaled to 1080p.... then after I get it, I found out that it doesn't touch 1080i or 720p. :-(

Is the Darbee worth getting if I can't send my TV anything better than 720p or 1080i? Is the Darbee best used with 1080p content?

If your TV is 1080p, it is scaling everything input to it to that resolution. All flat panels do this.
post #5500 of 6140
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

If Netflix is your primary or only form or watching TV with an HDMI connection I certainly would agree with you. Otherwise, no, I don't expect electronics to be 100% perfect. If I did I wouldn't have a Dish network receiver, a Direct TV receiver, A cable box. or my Pioneer audio receiver among many electronics. My Smartphone resets sometimes when I use a particular messaging app, but that doesn't mean I don't use it for everything else.

You are a hell of a lot more forgiving than I.....I have a Panny TV ,directv,roku,Xbox.oppo 3D
blu ray player all running thru a Denon av receiver.. All perform flawlessly and have been doing so for a while..I would expect nothing less...I will add to that list by adding 2 iPads)one of which is an ipad 2.. The other an ipad 3)..3first generation Ipod players..2 desk top computers that are 6 years old..and 2lap tops..all is golden in those areas as well.
post #5501 of 6140
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Originally Posted by hodges69 View Post

Why? Because when I purchase something,I expect it to be fully functional.....if I paid half the price,I would expect the same thing...............

As a consumer electronics company for the general public, Darbee isn't ready for prime time.

Monoprice has more helpful user information on their Web site for a $5.00 product than Darbee has on their Web site for a $350.00 quirky (as the Darbee apologists affectionately describe it) Darblet.

By now they must know of all the problems people are having. All they would have to do is plagiarize this forum to create a useful FAQ for their Web site and a useful set of instructions to include with the product. But they don't do it.
post #5502 of 6140
Then I even more don't understand your position on this, but I don't have to. Only you can decide what you think is worth spending money on.
I wouldn't give a rats a** if it didn't work with my Roku for instance (it does, don't know about Netflix) if it did work with my Blu-ray, satellite receiver, etc.... That's because the picture is so much improved with virtually zero problems using them. Everyone has had a Direct TV or Dish or Cable receiver not work correctly at one time or another. Virtually everyone has had a smartphone reset or freeze or have some problem at one time or another or not work with a particular app it is supposed to. But again, none of that matters, it's your money.

And the vast majority of users have had minimal problems who post here, other than I believe one specific brand of audio/video receiver that seems to not work will with the Darbee. I don't know about Netflix being a common problem or not. You can find a few posts about resetting in general in this thread, but I can show you many posts about resetting TV receivers, it happens.
post #5503 of 6140
Do not really way to get into a p issing contest here.....I just wonder though if you attitude would be as cavalier with a new car,furniture,or any other major purchase...would guess not...that ' s as far as I am taking this conversation...and as you alluded to...it's your money to do as you will.
post #5504 of 6140
Are the combined HDMI Cables In and Out Equal to, or greater than 6' ?
Have you tried a different set of cables in and out?
Narry a problem with my Darbee from Day 1, and I calibrate with it InLine.
Have my Darbee sitting on an old Laptop Battery as a Heat Sink.
Input was originally from an iScan Duo, now the Lumagen Radiance XE-3D - No issues.
I'm wondering if there are any pulses being pushed through when on Netflix that's causing the problem?
post #5505 of 6140
Using brand-new 6' HDMI cables for in and out.....plenty of unit ventilation.....I also emailed Larry at Darbee and asked if there any known issues between netflix and Darbee......waiting for his reply...Thanks for the suggestions..
post #5506 of 6140
I use multiple Darbee at home and experienced no problem with Netflix.

1. PS3 Netflix -> Sony EX720 TV
2. Sony BDP-S590 Netflix -> Pioneer Kuro TV
3. Pioneer BDP-62 Netflix -> Anthem MRX-700 -> Panasonic 7000 projector

The only "problem" is even in SuperHD, Netflix still look like garbage. biggrin.gif
post #5507 of 6140
I leave the NetFlix to the wife. As long as it has Colour she's happy. Me, Blu-ray or nothing! (Occassional exceptions like `The Almighty Johnsons', but played on my AVLogic DVD player, where it sure looks like Blu-ray! Of course the Darbee probably helps.)

Forgot to mention re Darbee resetting: Is Deep Colour Turned Off? If running 4:4:4, turn down to 4:2:2.
Edited by p5browne - 2/8/13 at 9:24pm
post #5508 of 6140
It's been a while since I've been to this thread, but I'm bored so I thought I'd check it out. I've had my Darbee for months and (knock on wood) haven't had one problem with it. It makes my blu rays look exceptional. I recently subscribed to Netflix. I like it to a degree, but honestly even in 1080p the PQ is shite as it is, so I don't see the Darbee helping all that much. You can't polish a turd.
post #5509 of 6140
What's the problem with the Dare bee and Netflix. I have two Darblets and half over a dozen devices with netflix. The Darblet has not had any issues with them. The Netflix streaming can look very good for the bitrate being used. And I just recently looked at a streaming title I was very familiar with from Netflix in the past. Playing the Super HD encode it has never looked so good. It looked easily better than broadcast HD. Of course it's not going to look like a BD, but for the superHD 5800kbps encode it looked very, very good. And the Darblet made it look even better.
post #5510 of 6140
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Originally Posted by hodges69 View Post

You are a hell of a lot more forgiving than I.....I have a Panny TV ,directv,roku,Xbox.oppo 3D
blu ray player all running thru a Denon av receiver.. All perform flawlessly and have been doing so for a while..I would expect nothing less...I will add to that list by adding 2 iPads)one of which is an ipad 2.. The other an ipad 3)..3first generation Ipod players..2 desk top computers that are 6 years old..and 2lap tops..all is golden in those areas as well.

You must have a defective unit. My advice is to exchange it for another.

I have a Denon 2309CI through which I channel a Panasonic 210 Blu-ray player, a Sony 350 Blu-ray player, a WDTV Live streamer, an Apple TV 3 and a Roku XD streamer with HDMI cables. The signal exits the Denon into the Darbee and goes to a powered splitter, one feed goes to my Panasonic plasma HDTV and the other to my Panasonic 1080p projector. Everything has always worked flawlessly. I even use an IR receiver that people tell me should not even work with the Darbee but it does.

As mentioned previously Netflix (especially Super HD) looks very good through the Darbee, some movies look better than others but that's more a problem with the studios than Netflix. I am really puzzled by people who complain about the quality of Netflix HD.
post #5511 of 6140
I have the Darblett for a couple of weeks now and have no issues...

It has removed a veil from the picture that I didn't know existed until I put it in my set up....

No issues here..my setup is all the sources feed into my Pioneer Elite Receiver...then out to the Darblett then to the display...

HD Cable..Apple TV..Netflix....BD player...PS3..and XBox 360...all going to Receiver then Darbee then display....

Love it so far...very satisfied with the purchase.
post #5512 of 6140
Hi all,

I purchased a Darblet from AV Science last September. Although I think I saw some change, I didn't experience the dramatic difference many of you have reported. I decided to leave it in the chain. At worst, it didn't seem to be doing any harm.

About three weeks ago, I saw a strange flash when the system was transitioning from 1080i to 1080p. There was about a half second of snow (the kind of stuff you would see on an old analog set when tuning to an unused channel). There was also a moment when the entire screen went pink.

The picture is now frequently unwatchable. It looks as though the brightness has been pushed too high. The picture is noisy and it looks like there is a light layer of snow over it. That strange snow/pink flash is getting more and more frequent when I change resolutions.

I just pulled the Darblet out of the chain and the picture is gorgeous. All anomalies have disappeared.

I'm going to give it a few days to see what happens, but I think I have found the culprit, a bad Darblet. I wonder if it was defective from the beginning and that was why I didn't see a dramatic picture improvement.

I think I'm past-warranty, so I don't know if there is anything I can do.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

Thanks,

Burt
post #5513 of 6140
On one or maybe two occasions I did have that happen, like you going from 1080I to 1080P. All I did was unplug the Darbee, wait a second and plug it back in. Hasn't happened in quite sometime.
post #5514 of 6140
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

On one or maybe two occasions I did have that happen, like you going from 1080I to 1080P. All I did was unplug the Darbee, wait a second and plug it back in. Hasn't happened in quite sometime.

Interesting. I tried to reset it by unplugging also. It fixed things for a day or two. Unfortunately, the problem returned and kept getting worse.

I hope your luck holds.

Burt
post #5515 of 6140
I have had both of my Darblets since Sept and they have worked flawlessly. I am getting ready to order the third one, I just love the difference they produce in the picture. I have them on a Sharp 70", Vizo 42" and soon to be on a Vizo 60" . biggrin.gif
post #5516 of 6140
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

If your TV is 1080p, it is scaling everything input to it to that resolution. All flat panels do this.


Right, I realize that, and thank you for your reply. I was a bit confusing there.

What I meant was... Currently I don't have anything upscaling to 1080p before it gets to my TV.... so if I got a Darbee, I wouldn't have anything 1080p (besides blurays) hitting the Darbee on its way to my TV. I was wondering if most people have something upconverting their content (Cable box, Satelite TV, etc) to 1080p before it goes to the Darbee, and then to the TV.

Or will the Darbee handle 720p and 1080i content it receives rather nicely, and then pass it on to my TV?
post #5517 of 6140
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Or will the Darbee handle 720p and 1080i content it receives rather nicely, and then pass it on to my TV?

The Darbee will take anything you throw at it and do its magic....the usual rules apply...if its crappy SD content it won't do such a good job...the better the source the better the results...
post #5518 of 6140
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Originally Posted by nikolausp View Post

Right, I realize that, and thank you for your reply. I was a bit confusing there.

What I meant was... Currently I don't have anything upscaling to 1080p before it gets to my TV.... so if I got a Darbee, I wouldn't have anything 1080p (besides blurays) hitting the Darbee on its way to my TV. I was wondering if most people have something upconverting their content (Cable box, Satelite TV, etc) to 1080p before it goes to the Darbee, and then to the TV.

Or will the Darbee handle 720p and 1080i content it receives rather nicely, and then pass it on to my TV?

I can't really follow what you are asking in your posts. In this post you seem to think content needs to be in 1080P for using with a Darbee? Forget anything about resolution, the Darbee works period. I'm not sure where you picked up on it needing to be any certain resolution. Take time and read what people have taken time to post when they talk about watching Cable or Satellite TV that's in either 720P or 1080I. If from Blu-ray in 1080P. Very little material will be in 1080P that you watch if not on Blu-ray. Some On Demand Movies over Cable or Satellite could be.
post #5519 of 6140
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Forget anything about resolution, the Darbee works period

It does not work on SD cable material to my knowledge.
post #5520 of 6140
Do not want to beat a dead horse..But...Larry Pace and I have been e mailing back and forth concerning my reset probs with the Darbee...His engineer has been asking him to contact me with info concerning the experience I have had during the Darbeee factory re sets....This indicates there is a known problem and they are working to get it resolved...You users who have not had this problem are lucky...why it would happen to some and not others,I have no idea...will keep you posted if interested..
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