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post #571 of 7863
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Originally Posted by vinodk View Post

I live in SoCal. Just got the Darblet. Wondering if I can just drive down to Darbee office & get my unit upgraded with latest firmware if need be.

That would be possible.

-DD
post #572 of 7863
Well I was going to order a Darbee but if the ones that are shipping need upgrading I guess I wont now,whats wrong with the product that it needs upgrading?I was only going to use it for blu-ray,no cable tv or computer or movie downloading.thanks
post #573 of 7863
I agree on the HDMI connector placement.

Until that's implemented, Monoprice has various right angle port savers that could help

http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=hdmi+port+saver
post #574 of 7863
I prefer the HDMI ports where they are - it allows me to insert the Darblet without bending cables unnecessarily...
post #575 of 7863
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Originally Posted by dholmes54 View Post

Well I was going to order a Darbee but if the ones that are shipping need upgrading I guess I wont now,whats wrong with the product that it needs upgrading?I was only going to use it for blu-ray,no cable tv or computer or movie downloading.thanks

The vast majority of Darblet users are not experiencing issues and are very much enjoying the use of the product.
-DD
post #576 of 7863
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Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

The vast majority of Darblet users are not experiencing issues and are very much enjoying the use of the product.
-DD

+1
post #577 of 7863
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Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

The vast majority of Darblet users are not experiencing issues and are very much enjoying the use of the product.
-DD

Please count me among them. The Darblet transformed my Panny PT-AE7000 projector into what I would have expected from a PT-AE9000!
post #578 of 7863
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Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

We look forward to seeing all your molecules there, not just your pixels.
-DD
Deal. smile.gif
post #579 of 7863
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Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

The vast majority of Darblet users are not experiencing issues and are very much enjoying the use of the product.
-DD

Agree 100%. No problem with a Lumagen XD and Elite X5. Seems most/all problems are limited to certain brand and model projectors.
post #580 of 7863
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Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

The vast majority of Darblet users are not experiencing issues and are very much enjoying the use of the product.
-DD

Other than the RGB output only issue My Darblet is working great!
post #581 of 7863
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

4) Dual output for people that have multiple display output.. I know I can buy two, but from a spacing/power-outlet perspective, it is better to have 1 device.

You can buy an HDMI doubler (aka, distribution amp, splitter, etc.) a lot more cheaply than a second DVP. smile.gif
post #582 of 7863
thanks everyone,I have a Pany 4000 & a old Pioneer 51 blu-ray so maybe everything will be ok,Ill re-think about ordering one!
post #583 of 7863
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Originally Posted by dholmes54 View Post

thanks everyone,I have a Pany 4000 & a old Pioneer 51 blu-ray so maybe everything will be ok,Ill re-think about ordering one!

The 51FD can output RGB just fine. I still use one myself. Although I use 4:2:2 to my Duo VP and the VP is set to RGB out.
post #584 of 7863
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Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

That would be possible.
-DD

Would it also be possible to purchase a Darblet directly from you?. I am in Socal and your offices are very close.

Thanks,
Ck
post #585 of 7863
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Originally Posted by CRAZZZY View Post

Would it also be possible to purchase a Darblet directly from you?. I am in Socal and your offices are very close.
Thanks,
Ck

Sorry, we don't sell Darblets directly to customers.

Check our authorized dealer list as I am sure that there is at least one who will meet your needs.

-DD
post #586 of 7863
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Originally Posted by CRAZZZY View Post


Would it also be possible to purchase a Darblet directly from you?. I am in Socal and your offices are very close.
Thanks,
Ck


You can get one from AVS, Amazon, .....

post #587 of 7863
thanks,sorry Im a little lost ronomy how do you have yours connected?I use hdmi only,blu-ray to pre-pro & then to projector.Do you use a different type of video processor?
post #588 of 7863
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Originally Posted by henrich3 View Post

You might want to hold off ordering until after the Darblet firmware is updated with fixes for the color space & luminance range issues...


Hello,

I was about to order this week but being from Europe and reading this put me on hold. Any date for these firmware fixes? How do those issues occur, only in a certain setup? I am using a Dune BD.

Thanks,
N.
post #589 of 7863
For an interesting insight into the Darblet processing take a look at the Spears & Munsil Luma Zone Plate while switching between the various modes as well as ON/OFF.

The Chroma zone plate shows how colours are affected.
post #590 of 7863
We are still in love with the Darblet and watching the game last night reminded us why. smile.gif
post #591 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Nima View Post

I was about to order this week but being from Europe and reading this put me on hold. Any date for these firmware fixes? How do those issues occur, only in a certain setup? I am using a Dune BD.

DD said that they're working on it. I'm sure that he'll post here once the update is ready.

The current issues aren't deal-breakers for most folks. I count myself as a very happy Darblet owner. That said, if a firmware update is forthcoming it may be worthwhile to delay your purchase until you can pick up an updated model. If the current issues do affect you then shipping your unit back from Europe to get the update would be a little more pricey & time consuming than for those of us in the states.
post #592 of 7863
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Originally Posted by dholmes54 View Post

thanks,sorry Im a little lost ronomy how do you have yours connected?I use hdmi only,blu-ray to pre-pro & then to projector.Do you use a different type of video processor?

I have the DVDO Duo VP. So 51FD > Duo > Dablet > Projector. I set the output of the VP to RGB. I don't use a Pre-Pro. My video and audio paths are separate. I have a meridian sound processor preamp and a full separates system. I need a VP to do all my video switching and yes all HDMI connections except for a couple analog video sources that I hardly ever use these days.
post #593 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Mark_H View Post

For an interesting insight into the Darblet processing take a look at the Spears & Munsil Luma Zone Plate while switching between the various modes as well as ON/OFF.
The Chroma zone plate shows how colours are affected.

I was thinking about trying that! No comment from you though...what did you find?
post #594 of 7863
Thanks Ronomy,I think the RGB output confused me a little,if I read correctly the Darbee outputs a RGB signal through hdmi?
post #595 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

I was thinking about trying that! No comment from you though...what did you find?

Well, it's hard to describe but you can certainly see significant changes to the pattern... Under normal circumstances this would put me off the device (do no harm) - but in practice I prefer the image with the Darblet.
post #596 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Mark_H View Post

Well, it's hard to describe but you can certainly see significant changes to the pattern... Under normal circumstances this would put me off the device (do no harm) - but in practice I prefer the image with the Darblet.

Yeah I agree it is pretty sweet! I have backed off now and down to 45% Hi-Def setting watching SAT TV shows. I was using 80% for Avatar and it was simply amazing how good that looked.
post #597 of 7863
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

We are still in love with the Darblet and watching the game last night reminded us why. smile.gif

+1 on that. ABC and ESPN have had outstanding PQ with pro basketball this year and post season. Darblet looked great for me at 100 in Hi Def. Sooo glad TNT is finally done. They used to do basketball really well a couple years ago but this year every game, no matter the venue, they have some same cameras/camera angles that appear bit starved for some reason and macro block like crazy with any motion. Has to be their own gear because its the same cameras every time. With large projected images really noticeable.
post #598 of 7863
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post


You can get one from AVS, Amazon, .....

Don't see it listed on Amazon ...?
post #599 of 7863
Installed the Darblet last night between my Lumagen XS processor and JVC RS40 projector. I cannot get the Darblet to sync with one of the Lumagen's two HDMI outputs. I get no picture at all. It will sync with the Lumagen's other HDMI output, however. I haven't yet determined what settings in the Lumagen could be affecting this. Unfortunately, the one it won't sync with is the one I've been using for my projector. (The other HDMI output is connected to a TV.) As a workaround, I swapped outputs, at least temporarily. This gave me a picture through the Darblet.

I am experiencing the YCbCr/RGB color conversion issue decribed by others in this thread. That seems to be a universal problem at this point.

I've only had one night of use with the Darblet so far. I'm still undecided in my feelings for it.

Anything above "high-def" 45% clearly has a "processed" appearance that I don't care for, and I've seen the smearing artifact that someone else mentioned seeing on credit text. Where I saw it was the white stars against a black background in a space scene. Backing down to 45% seemed to eliminate that problem, and seems to be the sweet-spot setting overall.

I can definitely see the enhanced detail and "lifting a veil" effect described by others. However, I find it most clear in examining still frames. It's much more subtle in motion. For a comparison, I turned the Darblet processing off and turned up my projector's Sharpness settings a few clicks (it's normally at zero). Honestly, that yeilded a very similar result. Yes, we all know the dangers of cranking up artificial Sharpness, but just a few clicks up brought out the detail similarly to the Darblet without noticeable ringing.

I'm not passing judgment yet. I need to experiment more with a wider range of content. But my initial reaction is more of a "Huh..." than a "Wow!"

Note that I approach all video tweaks with inherent skepticism.
post #600 of 7863
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Originally Posted by John Ballentine View Post


Don't see it listed on Amazon ...?


Hmm.   Nor do I.   However I bought mine through Amazon, though it came from Smartphone, which I see does have it

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