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post #6001 of 7863
^^^ Travis Rice is a puss. He's doing the downhill exploits on soft snow..... wink.gifwink.gif



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post #6002 of 7863
Add me to the list of happy Darblet users. I got mine in last night, set it to HDTV at 55% after some fiddling with test patterns and reference material, then put in Rise Of The Guardians. As if that movie didn't look amazing enough... We ended up watching the whole movie.

So while I was a bit of a video purist and had tweaked my projector about as far as one could to get as close to the source material as possible, I'm a believer now. Can't wait to play with it some more tonight!
post #6003 of 7863
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

Ok- some important missing info needed.

Room size, layout, # rows seating, seats , room acoustic treatments, screen type, dedicated room with doors or open multi room, ambient light control etc.

Without more objective info pure subjective guess by most people here.

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He gives the size of his screen (100+ inches = Darblet would be useful on this) and says that his current sub is not too good (bigger better one is in order).. I don't think you need all that info you requested to provide him with an opinion.. regardless it would be subjective anyways.

He needs a new sub first and foremost wink.gif

My point is if he has multiple seats and rows then he'd need multiple subs to get decent flat response across, and blow his budget.

In that case I'd recommend the Darblet as upgrade.

However if just 1 MLP then possible a single decent 12" sub with EQ would be my suggestion.


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post #6004 of 7863
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

My point is if he has multiple seats and rows then he'd need multiple subs to get decent flat response across, and blow his budget.

In that case I'd recommend the Darblet as upgrade.

However if just 1 MLP then possible a single decent 12" sub with EQ would be my suggestion.


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Oh ok got it, good point !
post #6005 of 7863
Hi,

Hoping someone can help.

I have an old RPTV that can only do 1080i. Would a Darbee help with this relic? If so, see #1. If not, see #2

1) I stream 1080p MKV files from computer to the RPTV. To get the streamed picture to this TV I send it via ethernet to an Oppo bdp-93 and then to the TV via an HDMI to DVI cable. Would using the HDMI to DVI cable cause any conflict with the Darbee. Unfortunately, since the TV is so old HD TV is going from the STB to the TV via component so no Darbee love that way. I guess I could send it from STB to the AVR via HDMI, do the same with the Oppo and then go out of the AVR to the TV via that HDMI to DVI cable. I am planning on getting a new TV but not likely until fall/winter.

2) I stream 1080p to a Samsung LED that is getting the stream via an ethernet cable plugged into the Samsung. Can anything be done to get Darbee love into this type scenario? If the answer is no I'm still considering the Darbee to use with just straight HD via STB to the Samsung for regular TV.

Thanks
post #6006 of 7863
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Originally Posted by squigly1 View Post

Hi,

Hoping someone can help.

I have an old RPTV that can only do 1080i. Would a Darbee help with this relic? If so, see #1. If not, see #2

1) I stream 1080p MKV files from computer to the RPTV. To get the streamed picture to this TV I send it via ethernet to an Oppo bdp-93 and then to the TV via an HDMI to DVI cable. Would using the HDMI to DVI cable cause any conflict with the Darbee. Unfortunately, since the TV is so old HD TV is going from the STB to the TV via component so no Darbee love that way. I guess I could send it from STB to the AVR via HDMI, do the same with the Oppo and then go out of the AVR to the TV via that HDMI to DVI cable. I am planning on getting a new TV but not likely until fall/winter.

2) I stream 1080p to a Samsung LED that is getting the stream via an ethernet cable plugged into the Samsung. Can anything be done to get Darbee love into this type scenario? If the answer is no I'm still considering the Darbee to use with just straight HD via STB to the Samsung for regular TV.

Thanks

A few people have used dvi/hdmi connections with no issues, but ymmv. Will you see the benefit on the older tv? Maybe, probably? In either case it'll cost you the postage to send it back if you buy from AVS here, or keep it till you upgrade your TV. UMM, hack it to connect to an ethernet stream? Maybe I didn't understand the 2nd part?
post #6007 of 7863
Just got my Darblet yesterday. I was shocked by how small the thing is. Based on the photos, I honestly expected it to be 2-3 times the size. I can't say I'm a huge fan of the overall design. It would have made much more sense to have all the connections on the back of the unit. The way it is, the thing looks really ugly in the equipment rack with the wires sticking out the sides. Because of this, I ended up placing the Darbee completely out of site. Not really a big deal, since all the pertinent information comes up on the OSD.

The Darbee is connected to a 70" Sharp Elite. I haven't had a chance to fully put it through its paces yet, but my initial reaction is that it does indeed improve the picture. I watched a couple shows last night with the Darbee set to HD 50%, and I noticed no artifacts.
post #6008 of 7863
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

Just got my Darblet yesterday. I was shocked by how small the thing is. Based on the photos, I honestly expected it to be 2-3 times the size. I can't say I'm a huge fan of the overall design. It would have made much more sense to have all the connections on the back of the unit. The way it is, the thing looks really ugly in the equipment rack with the wires sticking out the sides. Because of this, I ended up placing the Darbee completely out of site. Not really a big deal, since all the pertinent information comes up on the OSD.

The Darbee is connected to a 70" Sharp Elite. I haven't had a chance to fully put it through its paces yet, but my initial reaction is that it does indeed improve the picture. I watched a couple shows last night with the Darbee set to HD 50%, and I noticed no artifacts.

Yeah.. The design is overly simplistic, and down right ugly to be honest imo. They obviously didn't put that much work into it - there isn't even a USB port for FW updates and we're in 2013 - c'mon man !

I think they just wanted to get it out there in the marketplace, with the main intention of going to a chip that can go into other devices (displays, AVRs, BD players), and not having an actual device like the Darblet - that's what I think.
post #6009 of 7863
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

A few people have used dvi/hdmi connections with no issues, but ymmv. Will you see the benefit on the older tv? Maybe, probably? In either case it'll cost you the postage to send it back if you buy from AVS here, or keep it till you upgrade your TV. UMM, hack it to connect to an ethernet stream? Maybe I didn't understand the 2nd part?

Not sure I could do the postage return things as I'm in Canada. A bit apprehensive to purchase from the US and not even sure they would ship here. Then there's Canadian to US money conversion cost and duty/brokerage fees to consider if they do ship up here and use anything other than USPS. Even then Duty/brokerage fee may be an issue. There is a place in Montreal that sells the device. I am considering buying it and trying with the worse case waiting until the new TV arrives.

As for the 2nd part, I stream to the Samsung LED TV via ethernet, with no Oppo or anything in the middle. Would there be some device or something I could plug the ethernet into and then use it to stream to the TV via the Darbee? Something not nearly as expensive as another Oppo.

If the 2nd part is possible I'd probably get the cobalt and when I get the new TV get the Darblet as the new TV would have 3D.
post #6010 of 7863
Almost affordable 4K sets will be coming available from Sony in a couple of weeks. The 55" priced at $5,000 and the 65" at $7,000. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MgrAKe90gtC/p_15865X900/Sony-XBR-65X900A.html

Will these sets make the Darbee superfluous?
Edited by elphillips - 5/3/13 at 6:46pm
post #6011 of 7863
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Originally Posted by elphillips View Post

Almost affordable 4K sets will be coming available from Sony in a couple of weeks. The 55" priced at $5,000 and the 65" at $7,000. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MgrAKe90gtC/p_15865X900/Sony-XBR-65X900A.html

Will these sets make the Darbee superfluous?

Jack up Darbee to 80-85% on those tongue.gif
post #6012 of 7863
Yes. I tested my Darbee on my client's 65" Sony UHDTV yesterday, the internal controls such as reality creation, upscaling, etc already make the images 3D-like. Adding Darbee does very miniscule improvement over straight input.
post #6013 of 7863
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Originally Posted by elphillips View Post

Almost affordable 4K sets will be coming available from Sony in a couple of weeks. The 55" priced at $5,000 and the 65" at $7,000. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MgrAKe90gtC/p_15865X900/Sony-XBR-65X900A.html

Will these sets make the Darbee superfluous?

I'm not sure how much material you could watch on those displays in the immediate future anyways...
post #6014 of 7863
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

Just got my Darblet yesterday. I was shocked by how small the thing is. Based on the photos, I honestly expected it to be 2-3 times the size.

Not really sure why anyone ordering one of these would be shocked at the size unless they haven't done their homework. The PDF document with all of the specs is on the Darbee website. At any rate for future purchasers the size is 3.1" x 2.5" x 0.6". Weighs 4.2 ounces.



http://darbeevision.com/assets/documents/DarbeeVision%20Darblet%20User%20Guide%2020120426a.pdf
post #6015 of 7863
I've been doing the 'zoom' method on my JVC RS20 with the darblet. Really does make a difference. However, I just got an old panamorph u100 anamorphic lens and now the darblet is COMPLETELY NESSESARY!!!! Either way, I don't care what the box looks like, but seeing an obvious improvement in PQ is believing on this little jewel wink.gif
post #6016 of 7863
If you're "on the fence" about the Darblet, adding it to my home theater makes the projected image to my 106" screen have the clarity/depth/sharpness of a 55" LED tv. Very impressive.
post #6017 of 7863
Been using the Darblet on an 88 inch PJ screen, and it's truly amazing how much sharper the image looks. My wife even asked whether I had new movie material fro Iron Man 2, as it seemed TOO HI-DEF.... she said Gwyneth Paltrow's skin looked worse than she recalled... (I surreptitiously reduced the Darblet settings from 80% to 60% LOL).
post #6018 of 7863
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Originally Posted by avswilier View Post

Been using the Darblet on an 88 inch PJ screen, and it's truly amazing how much sharper the image looks. My wife even asked whether I had new movie material fro Iron Man 2, as it seemed TOO HI-DEF.... she said Gwyneth Paltrow's skin looked worse than she recalled... (I surreptitiously reduced the Darblet settings from 80% to 60% LOL).

It's funny you should say this, because I was just thinking tonight as I was watching some shows that the Darbee does have the negative effect of emphasizing the imperfections in people's faces.
post #6019 of 7863
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Originally Posted by avswilier View Post

Been using the Darblet on an 88 inch PJ screen, and it's truly amazing how much sharper the image looks. My wife even asked whether I had new movie material fro Iron Man 2, as it seemed TOO HI-DEF.... she said Gwyneth Paltrow's skin looked worse than she recalled... (I surreptitiously reduced the Darblet settings from 80% to 60% LOL).

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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

It's funny you should say this, because I was just thinking tonight as I was watching some shows that the Darbee does have the negative effect of emphasizing the imperfections in people's faces.

Before actresses had to worry about HD coming live.. but not they also have to worry about the Darbee.. times have changed tongue.gif
post #6020 of 7863
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Originally Posted by avswilier View Post

Been using the Darblet on an 88 inch PJ screen, and it's truly amazing how much sharper the image looks. My wife even asked whether I had new movie material fro Iron Man 2, as it seemed TOO HI-DEF.... she said Gwyneth Paltrow's skin looked worse than she recalled... (I surreptitiously reduced the Darblet settings from 80% to 60% LOL).

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Originally Posted by Coach KG View Post

If you're "on the fence" about the Darblet, adding it to my home theater makes the projected image to my 106" screen have the clarity/depth/sharpness of a 55" LED tv. Very impressive.

I too have a projector that I'm using my Darbee with. Just curious what setting both of you have yours on. HD, Game or Full Pop? Thanks
post #6021 of 7863
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I too have a projector that I'm using my Darbee with. Just curious what setting both of you have yours on. HD, Game or Full Pop? Thanks

I'll let those with a projector chime in - but I'm pretty sure that the consensus is to use Hi Def and forget about those two other modes..
post #6022 of 7863
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I too have a projector that I'm using my Darbee with. Just curious what setting both of you have yours on. HD, Game or Full Pop? Thanks

I'll let those with a projector chime in - but I'm pretty sure that the consensus is to use Hi Def and forget about those two other modes..

Blu One I see you have a 3d tv. Have you used the Darbee with 3d? If so, thoughts?
post #6023 of 7863
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

Blu One I see you have a 3d tv. Have you used the Darbee with 3d? If so, thoughts?


I actually just watched Avatar 3D on Saturday - looked real nice cool.gif

So far that's the only 3D BD I've had a chance to check out, hopefully more soon..
post #6024 of 7863
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Originally Posted by JewDaddy View Post


I too have a projector that I'm using my Darbee with. Just curious what setting both of you have yours on. HD, Game or Full Pop? Thanks

Using 49 Gaming for most content, but switch to HD on some higher quality bluray, and even used POP on animated Hugo, while watching it in 2D-3D conversion. It wasn't bad, gave it a little more depth.
post #6025 of 7863
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I too have a projector that I'm using my Darbee with. Just curious what setting both of you have yours on. HD, Game or Full Pop? Thanks
I've done a lot of fiddling since I got mine, and so far, 55% on HDTV mode seems to be the best "set it and forget it" setting for me. Gives a nice pop to the picture without any obvious artifacts on test patterns (other than the chroma/luma multiburst patterns, which is to be expected). I don't like Full Pop with anything... and while I tried Video Game mode with video games, it wasn't vastly different than the HDTV mode.
post #6026 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Blu_One View Post

I'll let those with a projector chime in - but I'm pretty sure that the consensus is to use Hi Def and forget about those two other modes..

I use 65% HD Mode in general. When the source is crappy, I bring it down to 45% HD Mode.
post #6027 of 7863
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

It's funny you should say this, because I was just thinking tonight as I was watching some shows that the Darbee does have the negative effect of emphasizing the imperfections in people's faces.

Absolutely, that's why with high resolution formats you need to use the Darbee with some restraint. The most I've been comfortable with is HD 40% otherwise on a 119" screen you end up with 1" deep skin pores - I'm exaggerating but you get my point.
post #6028 of 7863
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

I use 65% HD Mode in general. When the source is crappy, I bring it down to 45% HD Mode.

About the same levels here, with really good BDs without lots of film grain I like to jack it up a bit more. 70% even 75% sometimes cool.gif Never any higher though
post #6029 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Blu_One View Post

Before actresses had to worry about HD coming live.. but not they also have to worry about the Darbee.. times have changed tongue.gif

Imagine when they start filming TV shows in 4K. It could put a lot of actors out of work. biggrin.gif
post #6030 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

Absolutely, that's why with high resolution formats you need to use the Darbee with some restraint. The most I've been comfortable with is HD 40% otherwise on a 119" screen you end up with 1" deep skin pores - I'm exaggerating but you get my point.

I had it set at 55%, but I lowered it 40%. This definitely helped. I really like what the Darbee does to the picture, but sometimes you can indeed have too much of a good thing. smile.gif
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