or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Video Components › Video Processors › Darbee vision darblet
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Darbee vision darblet - Page 222

post #6631 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by analogBalrog View Post

I have tried the following:

SOURCE >> 6' HDMI >> Darbee >> 6' HDMI >> Projector (and it works)
SOURCE >> 6' HDMI >> Darbee >> 10' HDMI >> Projector (and it works)
SOURCE >> 10' HDMI >> Darbee >> 6' HDMI >> Projector (and it works)
SOURCE >> 50' HDMI >> Darbee >> 6' HDMI >> Projector (and it works)
SOURCE >> 50' HDMI >> Darbee >> 10' HDMI >> Projector (and it works)
...etc...

"SOURCE" stands for any of the following gear, which all work great when plugged in directly into the Darbee, then the Projector:
  • Sony BDP-S590
  • Comcast X1
  • Apple TV
  • Pioneer BDP-51FD
  • XBOX 360

Also, I have confirmed that all of these items (except for the 51FD, didn't test it) works when the Pioneer VSX-1018 AVR is added to the chain after the SOURCE. (as noted earlier, the 1018 is not an option for my HT because of the non-functional subwoofer out connection).

I could not get ANYTHING to work when I introduced the Pioneer VSX-822 AVR to the chain, sadly.

...

I bought a Yamaha RX-V673 Receiver today and will add it to the chain as follows:

SOURCE >>> Yamaha RX-V673 >>> 10' HDMI >>> Darbee >>> 6' Redmere HDMI >>> Sharp XV-Z30000 Projector

If that doesn't work, I'll try different HDMI cable combinations. And if those don't work, FML. rolleyes.gif

...

I'm excited for the new AVR anyways because it bumps me from 5.1 to 7.1 (I have plenty of speakers laying around), and gets me all "Darbalized" for some beautiful 120" Home Theater insanity.

Thanks again for all who helped. I'll report back with the good word that it's all working perfectly and if so, this episode will just end up as a ding against the Pio VSX-822 for compatibility issues.

And to anyone reading this haft-mast, fear not, the Darbee is worth ALL OF THIS nonsense. Get one.

Cheers! biggrin.gif

I have a Pioneer SC65 with the Darblet and a dual display - LCD/LED TV and a BenQ W1080ST.

The VSX-822 AVR does not have any video processing that I could see in the spec sheet, so it just should pass everything along.

One thing that helped me greatly - - especially with dropouts was the use of a Monoprice splitter/amplifier. That fixed all handshake problems and drop outs.

All inputs to SC65 (Directv, OPPO 103 Bluray Player, Micca Media Player) with one "HDMI1 Out" from my Pioneer receiver to the Darblet and then from the Darblet to the Monoprice Amplifier - - two HDMI "Out" to displays. No hiccups whatsoever, knock, knock.
post #6632 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

I have a Pioneer SC65 with the Darblet and ... no hiccups whatsoever, knock, knock.

I'm a Pioneer VSX-1120 with zero issues, one reason I'm in head-scratch mode ...
post #6633 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by geodon005 View Post

Just a question/suggestion:

As you all describe your settings and recommendations, could you please indicate whether the setting is HiDef, Gaming, or Full Pop as well as the number? I am always curious to hear what people are using.

Mine is currently set at 45 Full Pop.

Hi-Def 45.

Full Pop crushes shadow detail. So does Game, but less so. Hi-Def doesn't at all.
post #6634 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by oink View Post

First of all, unlike most everyone here, at my summer digs the screen is only 56 inches.
Secondly, I sit 12 ft. back.

Do you have to wear Zoomies to watch TV?

post #6635 of 7863
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Haha! ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
post #6636 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Do you have to wear Zoomies to watch TV?

Sometimes I wish so.

I left my larger display at the winter place this year.
Still trying to move to an FP that I can pick up and go with.

The 2 home thing is more of a pain in the a$$ than anything else at this point.
Within the next couple of seasons, I'll make a more workable decision regarding residency...wink.gif
post #6637 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by mogrub View Post

I can't help but feel we are collectively missing something here. AB, if you are sick of working on the Pioneer issue, no worries. If you aren't, can you explain the failure mode when the Darbee is placed in line with the VSX-822. Is it no sound, no video, no nothing, or intermittent of either, or what?

The failure mode when the Darbee was placed in line with the VSX-822 was no picture, no blue light on the Darbee, no recognition that the Darbee ever receives a signal from the AVR. I tried every HDMI cable I had (and I have a garden variety of them), and no dice. This all despite the fact the Darbee worked great with direct connections to all of my sources, and the VSX-1018 AVR did not experience these issues.

The VSX-822 just wouldn't play nice.

...

The good news boppers is that the Yamaha RX-V673 and the Darbee are a match made in heaven! Everything works beautifully together.

After months of research, purchasing, installation, you-name-it, I finally sat down last night and calibrated my projector, 7.1 surround sound, Darbee, and everything else in my home theater. It all has come together perfectly -- to the point that as I watched Prometheus (chapter 7) in 3D last night, with the system fully dialed in and cranked to 11, I started laughing out loud.

It is incredible.

...

Thanks for all the votes of confidence everyone. The Darbee brings the "wow factor" to an already mind-blowing experience. I'm happy as a clam!
post #6638 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by geodon005 View Post

Just a question/suggestion:

As you all describe your settings and recommendations, could you please indicate whether the setting is HiDef, Gaming, or Full Pop as well as the number? I am always curious to hear what people are using.

Mine is currently set at 45 Full Pop.

Hi-Def 50.

For me that is right at the threshold of acceptable PQ. I might bump it down to 45 as I get more familiarized with the Darbee.
post #6639 of 7863
Hi def. 57
post #6640 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by analogBalrog View Post

The good news boppers is that the Yamaha RX-V673 and the Darbee are a match made in heaven! Everything works beautifully together. After months of research, purchasing, installation, you-name-it, I finally sat down last night and ... it all has come together perfectly -- to the point that as I watched Prometheus (chapter 7) in 3D last night, with the system fully dialed in and cranked to 11, I started laughing out loud. It is incredible. The Darbee brings the "wow factor" to an already mind-blowing experience. I'm happy as a clam!

That's terrific, thanks for the update AB! So glad you got the big pay-off for all your hard work.
post #6641 of 7863
HD usually from 50 to 55. An occasional small boost, to a max of 65 HD, for extremely well produced CGI-intensive or animated content that can handle it. Fooled around with Gaming and Full Pop during the first few weeks of Darbee driving but haven't been back to those for months. Cost benefit kicks in.
post #6642 of 7863
I usually switch between HD 50% and Gaming 40%.....depends whether or not it's a sci-fi, outerspace flick, and also the quality of the bluray (or lack of ala the 5th Element)........that's when I tone it down; to reduce the artifacts.....
post #6643 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by analogBalrog View Post


The good news boppers is that the Yamaha RX-V673 and the Darbee are a match made in heaven! Everything works beautifully together.

After months of research, purchasing, installation, you-name-it, I finally sat down last night and calibrated my projector, 7.1 surround sound, Darbee, and everything else in my home theater. It all has come together perfectly -- to the point that as I watched Prometheus (chapter 7) in 3D last night, with the system fully dialed in and cranked to 11, I started laughing out loud.

It is incredible.

...

Thanks for all the votes of confidence everyone. The Darbee brings the "wow factor" to an already mind-blowing experience. I'm happy as a clam!


Very, very happy for you. Glad it all came together.

Yes, once it's all working right - - it's sh*ts & giggles time....

smile.gif
post #6644 of 7863
I must be doing this differently than some around here....

Generally speaking, with HD/SD broadcasts and DVDs, I bump it up (in the Hi-Def mode); with BD, I turn it down some.

The Darbee WILL invoke artifacts at Max setting, no question about that.
post #6645 of 7863
I just purchased a Darbee Darblett 5000 and would like to make sure I have one things straight on my install.

I have a 118 inch Carada screen with a Sony HW50ES projector - and an Onkyo TX-NR1007 sending signal to it through a 50 foot HDMI cable.

Should the Darbee be on the TX-NR1007 side or right beside the projector? Or does it even matter?
post #6646 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by JacobC1983 View Post

I just purchased a Darbee Darblett 5000 and would like to make sure I have one things straight on my install.

I have a 118 inch Carada screen with a Sony HW50ES projector - and an Onkyo TX-NR1007 sending signal to it through a 50 foot HDMI cable.

Should the Darbee be on the TX-NR1007 side or right beside the projector? Or does it even matter?

You will need to try it and see which works for you.... I had occasional 2 second duration video dropouts with mine mounted near my projector, but with it installed near my receiver, it has been flawless. But, I know of others in which the opposite is true....
post #6647 of 7863
Isn't that interesting... What receiver, HDMI cable and projector are you using?
post #6648 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

I had occasional 2 second duration video dropouts with mine mounted near my projector, but with it installed near my receiver, it has been flawless.

Deano, that's a twist I don't remember hearing before. Every video chain is different, that's for sure. When you had the Darblet installed at your projector, can you specify the length of HDMI connecting them?
post #6649 of 7863
Received my Darbee yesterday. This is my second rodeo with this bad boy. The first time I returned it because the difference wasn't worth it to me on my Panny 65GT50. I concluded that the Darbee would be best for large screens.

I now have it with my Benq W1070 projecting a 105" screen. I'll have to say that the difference is more noticeable, but I'm not super impressed yet. But I'm not giving up yet either. I tested out a few BD's and settled for HD 70%, a little higher than most folks I think. I used the same setting for 3D (Avengers, Avatar) For animation and CGI (Avatar), I used Full Pop at 60%. Same goes with Xbox.

Are there some general guidelines for BD's, 3D, animation, CGI, and gaming? For instance I know the Darbee can be cranked up higher with a better source.

1.) But can/should 3D be cranked up even higher? Lower?

2.) Is Full Pop generally better for CGI and animation? (I've read that some people would rather use a lower Full Pop setting than a higher HD setting.)

I know ultimately it's all up to my preference, but I just wanted to see if there were some agreed upon guidelines. Thanks!
post #6650 of 7863
Blu-rays/TV: Hi-Def 50%
Animated/3D content: Hi-Def 75%

I press one button on my Harmony remote, and alongside everything else that changes, it shifts the percentages up and down seamlessly for me.

Is anybody daisy-chaining two Darblets these days?
post #6651 of 7863
What's the vote for turning the Darbee off? Unplug It, or just leave It on 24-7?
post #6652 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyabusha View Post

What's the vote for turning the Darbee off? Unplug It, or just leave It on 24-7?

24/7, set it and forget it.
post #6653 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by analogBalrog View Post

24/7, set it and forget it.

Yep. I don't think it draws very much power, especially if you turn off the status lights.
post #6654 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyabusha View Post

What's the vote for turning the Darbee off? Unplug It, or just leave It on 24-7?

I have a Intel Atom/Ion PC that's on all the time to run my home automation/lighting. I think it draws 15 or 20 watts... something like that. I figure the Darbee is a small percentage of even that so I just leave it on. In the scheme of things, it doesn't draw anything.
post #6655 of 7863
Without Darbee on left
With 55% Darbee on right

post #6656 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Louie_18 View Post

Without Darbee on left
With 55% Darbee on right


I'm a Darblet owner, and appreciative of the time you took for this, but that's not an ideal frame to capture as it's a shot with a very shallow DoF to begin with - just the vertical middle section of is face is in the focus plane, and it softens out from there...
post #6657 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by erkq View Post


I have a Intel Atom/Ion PC that's on all the time to run my home automation/lighting. I think it draws 15 or 20 watts... something like that. I figure the Darbee is a small percentage of even that so I just leave it on. In the scheme of things, it doesn't draw anything.

From the Darbee FAQ page:

"Is it okay to leave my Darblet plugged in all the time?

Yes. The Darblet consumes less than five watts of power."

post #6658 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by thrang View Post

I'm a Darblet owner, and appreciative of the time you took for this, but that's not an ideal frame to capture as it's a shot with a very shallow DoF to begin with - just the vertical middle section of is face is in the focus plane, and it softens out from there...

Don't know if these posts will help, but I made some comparisons earlier. My apologies if they really aren't fantastic, but oh well.




http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet/5100#post_22709575

Quote:
Originally Posted by muffinmcfluffin View Post

What I own captures video (takes pictures as well), and it saves it on your PC. For instance, the device I own is the Hauppauge HD-PVR 2. What I own and what you are thinking of may or may not be the same thing, I'm not sure. However, I was able to rewire everything, and the Darblet works with it.

Here is an example from The Avengers, where I have a close-up of Tony Stark's face in the Iron Man suit. I captured 25% intervals for HD and Gaming (up to 100%), as well as a 0% shot.

Normal - 0%
HD - 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%
Gaming - 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%



And then I have a video where I do some wacky stuff flipping back and forth:





Sorry for the incredibly amateurish video. Next time I'll do something much more controlled for you guys. Maybe somebody can direct me as to what the best way is I should capture video to A/B it, as well as what movie/scene I should choose.




http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet/5100#post_22709627

Quote:
Originally Posted by muffinmcfluffin View Post

Before I call it a night, here are some with Drive. It's all 0% vs HD 50%.

Let me know if these are helpful, guys. I know they are a bit compressed, but the comparison is the important thing.

1) A | B
2) A | B
3) A | B
4) A | B
5) A | B
6) A | B




http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet/5100#post_22716238

Quote:
Originally Posted by muffinmcfluffin View Post

I respect your decision.

The only thing I wanted to say is that the Darbee isn't the next coming... however, people spend thousands of dollars for a new television that only betters their old ones by an amount sometimes less than this, and claim it as the next coming. It is like an added calibration tool, on top of the $300 calibration you already spent money on.

By the way, I own a Samsung PN-59D7000. I can't recognize the difference enough when watching sports. However, at HD 50%, I notice it everywhere else but fast action scenes. Animated content (like you said, including video games) allow me to raise it to about 75% (sometimes in "Gaming"), and it's a massive improvement for some games, like a breath of fresh air. This compressed YouTube video will only show so much, but it is just too awesome for me:





I don't expect somebody to walk into my room and ask if I did something new with my screen. I didn't even expect that after calibration (low and behold, nothing was said). It's just not significant enough. However, it's all the more important at the same time.
post #6659 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by oink View Post

The Darbee WILL invoke artifacts at Max setting, no question about that.

Patient: "Doctor, my arm hurts when I hyperextend it like this."

Doctor: "Don't do that."
post #6660 of 7863
looks like a cool baseball game.....what platform is this?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Video Processors
AVS › AVS Forum › Video Components › Video Processors › Darbee vision darblet