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post #6991 of 7863
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Originally Posted by gjlowe View Post

... I have an Epson Pro Cinema 6020UB projector and a Onkyo receiver and have the Darblet in between ... I am not sure I am seeing quite as dramatic an effect as I would have thought.
You have to be patient. This is your first experience with the late and great Paul Darbee's crack machine. Full blown addiction takes a little time. 😋

I have the same projector, and the difference is an absolute must have for us. What size screen are you on, and what sources are you watching? Are you calibrated?

My suggestions are to be patient, play with the demo mode, and especially watch Blu Ray programming you are visually familiar with. In my case, I can see significant impact, for example, in the introductory sequence (which fans see identically over and over again, providing a great test bed) to Game of Thrones. Everything is noticeably sharper with the Darblet engaged. Just find your best and most familiar sequence like that.

Your initial setting is about right, but fool with it just for grins. That's half the fun. 👍
post #6992 of 7863
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Originally Posted by mogrub View Post

You have to be patient. This is your first experience with the late and great Paul Darbee's crack machine. Full blown addiction takes a little time. 😋

I have the same projector, and the difference is an absolute must have for us. What size screen are you on, and what sources are you watching? Are you calibrated?

My suggestions are to be patient, play with the demo mode, and especially watch Blu Ray programming you are visually familiar with. In my case, I can see significant impact, for example, in the introductory sequence (which fans see identically over and over again, providing a great test bed) to Game of Thrones. Everything is noticeably sharper with the Darblet engaged. Just find your best and most familiar sequence like that.

Your initial setting is about right, but fool with it just for grins. That's half the fun. 👍

Although I do not have the same projector as referenced here (I have a BenQ W1080ST) - - the Darbee showed dramatic improvement in sharpness of the picture - - right out of the box! So I'm surprised that folks with projectors do not see the improvement. I have mine set at 50% HD. If you are not seeing any difference I can only thing it's one of three things - 1) you have such a high end projector that it doesn't make a difference, 2) there is something wrong with the Darbee itself or 3) you're looking for something that isn't there.

I'm not trying to be negative or disparage anyone's comments about their experience with the Darbee Darblet. But for projectors - - I really think it's an absolute "no brainer" to purchase the Darblet.

I can tell you this from personal experience - - I have the Darblet used for both my projector and LCD/LED TV. I also use a "Monoprice" amplifier in splitting the signal between both displays.

I had a defective Darbee many moons ago and didn't understand what all the fuss was about. Make sure yours is working properly. When I added a projector to my setup, I decided to try the Darblet again because of all the positive reviews on the web and the fact that the projector was quite a step down in "sharpness" from my LCD/LED. The Darblet quickly fixed that!

Then I decided to try it on my LCD/LED - - which before (with the defective unit - the remote never worked) - - didn't impress me at all. The new Darblet with the Monoprice amplifer/splitter made all the difference in the world. It didn't add as much sharpness to my LCD/LED as it did my projector - - but wow - - the colors, depth, detail and luminance is incredible!

I wish you the best in getting your Darblet to work right.
post #6993 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

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If you are not seeing any difference I can only thing it's one of three things
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This isn't what he said. He said, "I am not sure I am seeing quite as dramatic an effect as I would have thought."
post #6994 of 7863
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

This isn't what he said. He said, "I am not sure I am seeing quite as dramatic an effect as I would have thought."

Semantic differences aside - - it implies that expectations were not met for the Darblet with his projection experience. That was my only point.

If you had to poll all projection users of the "Darbee" effect, I believe that 80% or greater would say that it is a dramatic improvement in sharpness and clarity. If that is NOT happening, then IMHO - - something isn't working properly, there is a defect in the unit or expectations are different compared to other Darblet users.
post #6995 of 7863
I know this is a way too general statement but I have used the Darblet on a VT25 58" and now a ZT60 65", and the belief I had prior to getting the larger TV was that the bigger the screen and the higher quality the source the "slightly higher" the setting should be with all other factors being the same. With that said, with the 58" VT25 I used a setting of HD 35% for HD Cable, and 40% for Blu Ray. Moving up to the 65" ZT, I assumed the answer would be to bump it up a little and that was indeed the case. I now use HD40 % for HD Cable, and 45% for Blu Ray. For me at least I cannot ever imagine going over 50%. Even 20% to my eyes has an impact and the range of 35-45 has felt right for my particular displays.


Hope this helps.
post #6996 of 7863
I run 65% to usually no more than 80%, depending. And either the yellow or red settings.

To each their own, but just wanted to throw it out there in case some are wondering what others do.
post #6997 of 7863
Just ordered a "used" DVP-5000 unit from Amazon. Normally don't buy used off of Amazon, but since this one is coming from Cleveland Plasma and says it has a full warranty, I feel comfortable.

Will post impressions after I get it and have a few days to try it out

Panasonic 60ST60
Pioneer VSX-32 AVR
post #6998 of 7863
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Originally Posted by mp06011999 View Post

I run 65% to usually no more than 80%, depending. And either the yellow or red settings.

To each their own, but just wanted to throw it out there in case some are wondering what others do.

 

on DTV and my 151, Game mode 63%

on OTA and my 151, HD mode 48%

on BR and my 151, HD mode 45%

 

with the split screen enabled on the Darblet adjusting without overshooting is easy.

post #6999 of 7863
Hi Everybody

Is anyone using the Darblet with the Oppo 103 and the Sharp 80" 844 display.

If yes how does it look and what settings do you use? Also how does the "POP" mode for standard def dvds look and what setting?

Thank you in advance!

Rob
Edited by RobDec - 10/6/13 at 4:33am
post #7000 of 7863
Thanks to everyone who responded to my post. I am continuing to play around with settings and source material. Just to answer one of the questions, yes I have had the projector calibrated, and it is projected on a 110" Stewart StudioTek screen.
post #7001 of 7863
If I order this from Amazon, will I get the latest firmware?
post #7002 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Tangled Cable View Post

If I order this from Amazon, will I get the latest firmware?

I have had my Darbee for over a year and it does have the latest firmware. I check last week.
post #7003 of 7863
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

I have had my Darbee for over a year and it does have the latest firmware. I check last week.

It is the firmware; 1.3.21 ?
post #7004 of 7863
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

It is the firmware; 1.3.21 ?

Yes
Software version: 2.8.2214
Firmware version: 1.3.21
post #7005 of 7863
Ok thank you i have the good one and i bougth it 1 month ago.
post #7006 of 7863
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Originally Posted by PoppaC View Post

Just ordered a "used" DVP-5000 unit from Amazon. Normally don't buy used off of Amazon, but since this one is coming from Cleveland Plasma and says it has a full warranty, I feel comfortable.

I did the same thing (plus I had some Amazon gift cards) because I wanted to see what all the excitement was about. I haven't had a whole lot of time to play with the Darblet to discover my preferred settings but I am impressed with the unit. The "one eye" test (mentioned on this thread I think) with a Blu-ray movie really did reveal the depth cues that the Darblet adds. I was watching a Blackhawks game and when the camera cut to close-up action on the ice, I could easily make out the texture and stitching in the players' jerseys, it was impressive. Initially I wasn't sure what benefit I'd see on my 56" Samsung LED DLP television (might be time to upgrade soon wink.gif ) but it is certainly noticeable and appreciated.

Setup was easy as you would expect and the unit worked great right out of the box, my only confusion was the remote would not initially work. I bought a new battery and replaced it to no avail. Then I realized the original "dead" battery was put in upside-down (open box issue?). Fixing that slight oversight allowed the remote to function as expected. rolleyes.gif Sometimes it's the simplest things...
post #7007 of 7863
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

Ok thank you i have the good one and i bougth it 1 month ago.

Nothing has changed since August of last year I think.
post #7008 of 7863
I am thinking about ordering a Darbee. I have an OPPO 103 and Sony HX 850 LED and Motorola Comcast cable box. Will I have any problems with handshake issues with my cable and Darbee?
post #7009 of 7863
I recently bought a Darblet and I've been very happy with it. I did need an IR extender since I wanted to locate it behind the AV stand, having it in view is somewhat distracting. Someone mentioned the Monoprice IR extender (receiver), however as mentioned in one review on Amazon it didn't work (yes at the price offered I couldn't resist trying it anyway).

A standalone extender that does work is the Infrared Receiver Extender Cable for HD DVR STB's (by Infrared resources) also available on Amazon for $16. If standalone extenders have already been discussed, I didn't find it in my searches in this thread, so my apologies for regurgitating this if I missed it. It might be nice if the Darbee website had some suggestions for IR extenders (I didn't see anything on their website when I looked).

Anyway great product, at 1080 the effect is subtle, but noticeable. The biggest change I found are for Laserdiscs, a substantial improvement in picture quality and depth using a moderate HD setting, almost brings a dead medium back to life.
post #7010 of 7863
WOW!!! That’s the first word that came to mind when I fired up my new Darbee DVP 5000 that I just received today. After reading all the positive reviews I realized that I just had to see what the rave was all about… and now that I have seen it, there is no way I can ‘unsee’ it. It’s a keeper, for sure! I am very impressed.

First I tried it on my 55” LED Samsung, and then I tried it on my BenQ W7000 on a 110” screen. WOW! This thing appears even better through a pj! The detail I see is amazing. I’ve read some say that they only see a subtle difference, but the difference I see is on the verge of drastic. No video source should be without one. I will certainly never be without one.

Since I have only one Darbee for now, and 2 sources (my flat screen and my pj), I am running the output of the Darbee through a splitter… and the effect is still incredible. I was concerned about that at first, but it’s working better than expected.

Disclaimer: The writer of this post is in no way affiliated with Darbee … other than as a very satisfied customer…
post #7011 of 7863
I got mine yesterday afternoon and have not had a whole lot of time to play with it. In the demo mode (screen wipe) my wife could tell the difference in the picture quality, so that tells me the unit is working properly smile.gif


I seem to remember when first running the demo screen wipe that the black bar was unbroken. Now when I run it the black bar has a number of "breaks" in it when moving back and forth. Right now I have only really tried the Hi-Def mode and did not notice any artifacts after viewing about an hour of material via broadcast HD and blu-ray.

The only complaint I have with the box itself is the awkward positioning of the HDMI input/output. I understand that has been changed on the upcoming 5100 unit.

All in all I would say this is a smart buy for anyone that wants to get the best picture quality out of their TV.
post #7012 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Rchiffelle View Post

I recently bought a Darblet and I've been very happy with it. I did need an IR extender since I wanted to locate it behind the AV stand, having it in view is somewhat distracting. Someone mentioned the Monoprice IR extender (receiver), however as mentioned in one review on Amazon it didn't work (yes at the price offered I couldn't resist trying it anyway).

A standalone extender that does work is the Infrared Receiver Extender Cable for HD DVR STB's (by Infrared resources) also available on Amazon for $16. If standalone extenders have already been discussed, I didn't find it in my searches in this thread, so my apologies for regurgitating this if I missed it. It might be nice if the Darbee website had some suggestions for IR extenders (I didn't see anything on their website when I looked).

Anyway great product, at 1080 the effect is subtle, but noticeable. The biggest change I found are for Laserdiscs, a substantial improvement in picture quality and depth using a moderate HD setting, almost brings a dead medium back to life.

I see the 'subtle' remark at times in this thread and it puzzles me somewhat but basically have chalked it up to equipment variation. There is nothing subtle about the Darblet on my system and I have to keep it at 40-50 percent to keep from overdoing the effect as evidenced by these photos shot directly off my 120" front projection screen.

Darblet at 0%, 50%, 120%.



The Monoprice IR extender cable has been discussed before. I bought mine off Amazon and it works fine but others report problems. It could be that Monoprice changed their suppliers somewhere along the line. I have over 300 laserdiscs gathering dust in my basement and I doubt I will ever resurrect them in spite of having a Darblet.
post #7013 of 7863
I just got my Darblet for my Sony 4k 65". At HD 45% there is a noticeably sharper picture for all sources 1080p. Not quite 4k but worth 300 bucks for most of my viewing.
post #7014 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Steven414 View Post

WOW!!! That’s the first word that came to mind when I fired up my new Darbee DVP 5000 that I just received today. After reading all the positive reviews I realized that I just had to see what the rave was all about… and now that I have seen it, there is no way I can ‘unsee’ it. It’s a keeper, for sure! I am very impressed.

First I tried it on my 55” LED Samsung, and then I tried it on my BenQ W7000 on a 110” screen. WOW! This thing appears even better through a pj! The detail I see is amazing. I’ve read some say that they only see a subtle difference, but the difference I see is on the verge of drastic. No video source should be without one. I will certainly never be without one.

Since I have only one Darbee for now, and 2 sources (my flat screen and my pj), I am running the output of the Darbee through a splitter… and the effect is still incredible. I was concerned about that at first, but it’s working better than expected.

Disclaimer: The writer of this post is in no way affiliated with Darbee … other than as a very satisfied customer…

What are you driving the Darblet with? A stand alone player or an HTPC? If the later, which software player are you using?
post #7015 of 7863
I didn't explain it well. The effect is subtle (but still good) at a setting of 60-65% HD. When I played around with different formats at the same setting the effect changed with resolution (at least comparing 425 to 480 to 1080). As you showed in the pictures you can definitely crank it up to awkward looking.

Laserdisc is dead, but there are still enthusiasts and collectors. You could always make a few bucks selling them, who knows you may have some rare ones collecting dust.
post #7016 of 7863
Has anyone else tired contacting Darbee Vision for technical Support/warranty repair recently? If so what has the response time been like?

I opened a case via the online web form a few weeks ago, no response. I tried the email address for Support and it bounced back as undeliverable. Lastly I called and left a message on their voice mail yesterday and so far no call back...
post #7017 of 7863
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Warning to everyone - show the Remote to the significant other, and ask nicely for her NOT to Throw It Out! It belongs to something in your setup!
Be prepared, no matter how nicely you say it, you'll be told to `Stop shouting at her!' Then she'll leave the room. (But she probably will Not throw it out now.)

Hahaha! This is very true! Well said!
post #7018 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

I see the 'subtle' remark at times in this thread and it puzzles me somewhat but basically have chalked it up to equipment variation. There is nothing subtle about the Darblet on my system and I have to keep it at 40-50 percent to keep from overdoing the effect as evidenced by these photos shot directly off my 120" front projection screen.

Darblet at 0%, 50%, 120%.


Jesus. She looks like she has some sort of plague in that last pic.

Are you happy with your Darbee at lower settings?
post #7019 of 7863
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Originally Posted by kemac View Post

Has anyone else tired contacting Darbee Vision for technical Support/warranty repair recently? If so what has the response time been like?

I opened a case via the online web form a few weeks ago, no response. I tried the email address for Support and it bounced back as undeliverable. Lastly I called and left a message on their voice mail yesterday and so far no call back...


Paul Darbee''s funeral is today. I talked to Adam Darbee, Paul's son, this morning to offer my condolences. I was a friend of Paul's and am a friend of his son.

If you don't hear back from Darbee early next week, please email him at Adam@darbeevision.com and he will make sure you are taken care of promptly. I would refrain from emailing him until next week.

Darbee is a small company and getting ready for Cedia, Paul dying, going to Cedia has left them behind in the support area. I have every confidence that things will get back to normal shortly and Darbeevision will continue to grow and thrive.
post #7020 of 7863
Completely understandable, thank you for providing Adams contact information, I will wait a few weeks before reaching out. Sorry for your loss of a good friend Mark.
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