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post #7441 of 7863
What setting, display size, viewing distance, which source, what movie your are playing etc. At 35% there is hardly any visible ringing from both THX and SMPTE distances. Something that's been tested by my contacts at Technicolor, ISF, and nearly 100 clients of mine (this year alone).
post #7442 of 7863
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Originally Posted by The Noof View Post

Just wanted to post a very quick review on my findings:without being too rude,the Darblett was a complete waste of money.The artifacts (random,frequent snow), as well as ringing make the cure worse than the illness.Tried in in 2 of my 3 systems,same result on both.Not going to waste my time any further.This is either a defective unit that misbehaves, or a perfectly working Darbee that is terrible.It's going on FleaBay, with an accurate description tomorrow.
 You don't get anything for nothing, I guess.If this particular unit made your HT video sources look better, they must have been terrible to begin with.
...then why don't you return it? Selling it on EBay instead seems odd. It behaves in a way in which no one else's in this thread does. The "snow" indicates an issue.
post #7443 of 7863
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Originally Posted by The Noof View Post

Just wanted to post a very quick review on my findings:without being too rude,the Darblett was a complete waste of money.The artifacts (random,frequent snow), as well as ringing make the cure worse than the illness.Tried in in 2 of my 3 systems,same result on both.Not going to waste my time any further.This is either a defective unit that misbehaves, or a perfectly working Darbee that is terrible.It's going on FleaBay, with an accurate description tomorrow.
 You don't get anything for nothing, I guess.If this particular unit made your HT video sources look better, they must have been terrible to begin with.

The snow is most likely HDMI data problems. You seem to be a newb. Nothing wrong with that. But perhaps you could ask what's wrong in your first post instead of spewing ignorance as a "review".
post #7444 of 7863
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

What setting, display size, viewing distance, which source, what movie your are playing etc. At 35% there is hardly any visible ringing from both THX and SMPTE distances. Something that's been tested by my contacts at Technicolor, ISF, and nearly 100 clients of mine (this year alone).


Hey bro...ZT60,viewed at 10 feet,through a Yamaha rx-a3000 is my HT combo.Smaller living roon 55" viera doesn't reveal as many problems, but all are there none the less.Could just be a bum unit,or not.It is either a case of "it is what it is", or it's just a case of, "it it what it is".I only paid 280.00 for it,which is less than I spent on 3 or 4 cables,so no biggie.

post #7445 of 7863
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

...then why don't you return it? Selling it on EBay instead seems odd. It behaves in a way in which no one else's in this thread does. The "snow" indicates an issue.
+1. This is rediculous.
post #7446 of 7863
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post


The snow is most likely HDMI data problems. You seem to be a newb. Nothing wrong with that. But perhaps you could ask what's wrong in your first post instead of spewing ignorance as a "review".

Couldn't have said it better my self. Funny that thousands have had great results. Must've all been crappy systems. Lol

This is exactly why I read reviews with a weary eye. Too many people review things they don't know how to properly operate and trouble shoot.
post #7447 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Korszo View Post

I posted this in the "Digital Hi-End Projectors" forum this morning. Don't like to double post, but this information is probably more appropriate and helpful here. Some recent Darbees were shipped with the wrong power supply ...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Check your Darbee's power supply. If its 9vdc, it is the wrong supply. Should be 5vdc. I had this problem & waisted a lot of time only to find out through the vendors testing, and his contact with Darbee the supply was wrong!

Very frustrating. Another indicator is the Blue LED will stay on all the time, even with no cables connected. It should only be on when video is present at the input.

Hope this helps ...

Indicator of what? Mine stays on all the time and works just fine. As has been noted, these tend to work better when placed just prior to the TV or PJ. I personally have had no issues using a 1' cable between the Darbee and the TV on several different TVs.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 12/28/13 at 9:10pm
post #7448 of 7863
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Originally Posted by The Noof View Post

Just wanted to post a very quick review on my findings:without being too rude,the Darblett was a complete waste of money.The artifacts (random,frequent snow), as well as ringing make the cure worse than the illness.Tried in in 2 of my 3 systems,same result on both.Not going to waste my time any further.This is either a defective unit that misbehaves, or a perfectly working Darbee that is terrible.It's going on FleaBay, with an accurate description tomorrow.
 You don't get anything for nothing, I guess.If this particular unit made your HT video sources look better, they must have been terrible to begin with.


If you purchased from an "authorized dealer" (eg. AV Science), and are within the return period, you should be able to get a full refund (less shipping) of the unit. If purchased directly from Darbee, there is a full 30 day trial period as noted on their web page:




AV Science has had some Darbee units returned, generally from flat screen owners, as the difference, although noticeable is generally only subtle as compared to the effect on a larger 100"+ projection screen. I have personally used a Darbee 5000 on two different very good quality Panasonic plasma displays, 32" and 65" and although there is indeed a positive effect .... it is subtle at best.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 12/28/13 at 10:12pm
post #7449 of 7863
I've been using my Darbee for several months now, and I can't see any difference with it at all.

Then I turn it off and wonder why is my image so fuzzy?
post #7450 of 7863
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Originally Posted by The Noof View Post

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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

What setting, display size, viewing distance, which source, what movie your are playing etc. At 35% there is hardly any visible ringing from both THX and SMPTE distances. Something that's been tested by my contacts at Technicolor, ISF, and nearly 100 clients of mine (this year alone).


Hey bro...ZT60,viewed at 10 feet,through a Yamaha rx-a3000 is my HT combo.Smaller living roon 55" viera doesn't reveal as many problems, but all are there none the less.Could just be a bum unit,or not.It is either a case of "it is what it is", or it's just a case of, "it it what it is".I only paid 280.00 for it,which is less than I spent on 3 or 4 cables,so no biggie.
If you are paying that much for cables...we may have other problems.
post #7451 of 7863
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

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Originally Posted by The Noof View Post

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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

What setting, display size, viewing distance, which source, what movie your are playing etc. At 35% there is hardly any visible ringing from both THX and SMPTE distances. Something that's been tested by my contacts at Technicolor, ISF, and nearly 100 clients of mine (this year alone).


Hey bro...ZT60,viewed at 10 feet,through a Yamaha rx-a3000 is my HT combo.Smaller living roon 55" viera doesn't reveal as many problems, but all are there none the less.Could just be a bum unit,or not.It is either a case of "it is what it is", or it's just a case of, "it it what it is".I only paid 280.00 for it,which is less than I spent on 3 or 4 cables,so no biggie.
If you are paying that much for cables...we may have other problems.

You're absolutely correct! But some people buy into the marketing bs. And it's a shame because it's a total waste of money!
post #7452 of 7863
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

If you are paying that much for cables...we may have other problems.

My immediate thought too! But I thought I'd let that go...
post #7453 of 7863
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Indicator of what? Mine stays on all the time and works just fine. As has been noted, these tend to work better when placed just prior to the TV or PJ. I personally have had no issues using a 1' cable between the Darbee and the TV on several different TVs.

An indicator that the power supply is possibly wrong or has an issue! After the 9vdc power supply was swapped with a 5vdc on my unit, the Blue LED is ON only when the unit is processing video, OFF when it's not ... As it should per the Darbee "Quick Start" and User Manuals.

With the 9vdc power supply, the Blue LED was ON constantly, even when NOT processing video, not the way it's supposed to work! Plus it didn't work no matter where it was placed or what combination of cables were used. Now it works with a 2' standard & 40' Redmere cable with no issues.
post #7454 of 7863
No issues with my 5vdc power supply. I'll check with the Darbee folks to confirm whether it needs to be replaced or not.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 12/29/13 at 9:42am
post #7455 of 7863
I've put the Darbee right next to the projector but still no change. Black screen. Next I will go for trying it on HDMI 2 on my projector and then start running each component through the Darbee and bypass the receiver.

Thanks for all the help.
post #7456 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Korszo View Post

An indicator that the power supply is possibly wrong or has an issue! After the 9vdc power supply was swapped with a 5vdc on my unit, the Blue LED is ON only when the unit is processing video, OFF when it's not ... As it should per the Darbee "Quick Start" and User Manuals.

With the 9vdc power supply, the Blue LED was ON constantly, even when NOT processing video, not the way it's supposed to work! Plus it didn't work no matter where it was placed or what combination of cables were used. Now it works with a 2' standard & 40' Redmere cable with no issues.

IMO, based on owning two Darblets since they were first released, whether the blue LED stays on or not has nothing to do with the power supply. On one of my Darblets, the blue LED stays on, and on the other, it goes out when the signal is removed. Otherwise, both Darblets are functioning properly.
post #7457 of 7863
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

IMO, based on owning two Darblets since they were first released, whether the blue LED stays on or not has nothing to do with the power supply. On one of my Darblets, the blue LED stays on, and on the other, it goes out when the signal is removed. Otherwise, both Darblets are functioning properly.

I posted this recent, time consuming & frustrating experience here to possibly help someone, not to debate the way the Blue LED works.

The docs clearly state the function of the Blue LED, and mine works that way once the power supply voltage was correct. It did not prior.

Do you think I come here to make stuff up? ... My posts are the way my situation was observed. It may not apply to other situations. Take it or leave it and use your own judgement. And believe me, the story has been simplified for clarity.

If an indicator does not function as the documentation describes, I question why. If you accept it, thats your prerogative.
Edited by Korszo - 12/29/13 at 12:10pm
post #7458 of 7863
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Originally Posted by Kilgore View Post

I've been using my Darbee for several months now, and I can't see any difference with it at all.

Then I turn it off and wonder why is my image so fuzzy?
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post #7459 of 7863
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Edited by changboy - 12/30/13 at 7:22pm
post #7460 of 7863
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Originally Posted by praz View Post

Pronto hex codes for the Darblet. I learned the codes to a Pronto. Using the Pronto all codes work. I also copied the hex codes to a MX-980 and they also work with it. Hopefully other can find these useful.

ANyway to get these to work with a URC MX-880??
post #7461 of 7863
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Originally Posted by madhuski View Post

ANyway to get these to work with a URC MX-880??

I just used the "learn" feature with my URC MX-6000.
post #7462 of 7863
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

I just used the "learn" feature with my URC MX-6000.

I got it to learn, and it works when I use IR, but when I try to use it with a RF base station and the IR in port, can't get it to work.
post #7463 of 7863
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Originally Posted by madhuski View Post

ANyway to get these to work with a URC MX-880??

In CCP dump each code into the hex editor of the universal browser and drag to the position on the remote you want to use.
post #7464 of 7863
I'm really struggling with HDMI stability with my Darblett. I'm using it with my Epson 3020. I have about a 25 foot cable from my receiver to the projector/darbee area. This setup is rock solid without the darbee. With the darbee in-line, I have frequent issues, especially when watching 3D, where I get a burst of static which then results in the 3D being screwed up (not sure exactly what is wrong with it from that point forward, other than it isn't correct depthwise etc). If I unplug the output from the darbee to the projector momentarily, everything returns to normal. I've tried several 6 foot cables, a 3 foot cable, and a long redmere cable, all with the same result mad.gif Any suggestions?
post #7465 of 7863
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Originally Posted by The Noof View Post

I only paid 280.00 for it,which is less than I spent on 3 or 4 cables,so no biggie.

Thousands of alarms just went off in my head.
post #7466 of 7863
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Originally Posted by praz View Post

In CCP dump each code into the hex editor of the universal browser and drag to the position on the remote you want to use.

SO I open the Unviersal Browser, click on the little button that says 'HEX', and past a code in there.

I can't drag it though -- the little button with the blue cross hairs that says "drag" never highlights.

Ever come across this problem??
post #7467 of 7863
Darbee.zip 64k .zip file
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Originally Posted by madhuski View Post

SO I open the Unviersal Browser, click on the little button that says 'HEX', and past a code in there.

I can't drag it though -- the little button with the blue cross hairs that says "drag" never highlights.

Ever come across this problem??

Attached is the Darbee config file. Unzip it and in CCP right click on either Listen or Watch. Click on import device and browse to where you unzipped the file to.
post #7468 of 7863
Thanks Praz!

As a follow-up, has anyone (else) had trouble connecting the Darbee to a RF base station? The OR commands from my URC go through, but when I connect the MRF-260 to the IR in jack on the Darbee.....nothing.
post #7469 of 7863
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Originally Posted by flint350 View Post

Darblet works fine with my MX-3000 and the RF allows it to stay in the equipment room, out of sight of those LED's.   And, yes, I finally realized I could have turned them off in the menu settings (and have).  Must say, I like using a custom page on the MX-3000 vs. the sorta clunky remote interface that comes with the Darblet.  I have 2 now, one on my projector in the HT and one on my 60" Pioneer Kuro 151.  Happy with both, but at somewhat different settings.

Hey flint: are you using a sticky flasher, or plugging a 3.5mm directly into the "IR in" jack on the Darbee?
post #7470 of 7863
Well...I tried using the Darblet on my LED TV from my Marantz AV receiver. I had the exact same results I did with my Epson cinema pro from Integra DTR 30.1. Worked for literally 10 mins and then "No source." Tried unplugging and restarting without effect.

I'm thinking I'll try switching out the power supply to the Darblet. Mine came with a 9vdc and I do see the website says it's supposed to be a 5vdc. Maybe it will help.

Also, and more concerning, I've sent three emails and left a message with Darbee in the past 7 days and I haven't gotten a response in any form from them. My retailer gave me a contact and number at Darbee and suggested I call them directly for assistance.

Anyway, just a follow up.
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