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post #1141 of 1345
Yup, snagged one as well from Target..$675. And will throw a square trade 4 yr warranty on it for $60 if I don't opt to flip it.. But pretty sure shes gonna be a keeper!
post #1142 of 1345
How did y'all get them home? Will it fit standing up in the back of a Suburban?

Thanks.
post #1143 of 1345
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Originally Posted by Clemsonfan15 View Post

How did y'all get them home? Will it fit standing up in the back of a Suburban?

Thanks.

Yes, easily. Brought it home in a Saturn Vue with the seats folded down.
post #1144 of 1345
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Originally Posted by ngsm13 View Post

Picked up a 70" display model on clearance today, got it with addtional 3 year warranty for $687 out the door.

Been reading, and thanks for the wealth of information on how to get this thing dialed in! Look forward to getting things going tonight!

Congrats !

We LOVE the 70" too ... you get use to it but you get reminders how HUGE it is when going to friends house or when friends come to your house biggrin.gif

Enjoy !
post #1145 of 1345
Question for anyone.

I configured all my calibration settings, and the TV autochanges to 'Dynamic (fixed)' mode instead of my chosen 'Movie' or 'Game' mode. It does this while I'm watching all by itself.

Any help on how to disable/remedy this?
post #1146 of 1345
Try unplugging the set for 5 minutes. That seems to correct a wide range of issues. If it's under warranty, tell Sharp about the problem to get it in their system.
post #1147 of 1345
Gotta agree about how large it is comment..Mine is still wrapped in plastic now(flr model),but damn this thing is LARGE!!! Didn't look that big at the store.
post #1148 of 1345
Just curios, is it possible to actually check the hour usage of one of these sets?Some secret menu?
post #1149 of 1345
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Originally Posted by ngsm13 View Post

Question for anyone.

I configured all my calibration settings, and the TV autochanges to 'Dynamic (fixed)' mode instead of my chosen 'Movie' or 'Game' mode. It does this while I'm watching all by itself.

Any help on how to disable/remedy this?

Apparently it's a "store" mode, similar to demo mode.

You have to go through the intital setup again, and choose 'Home' as opposed to 'Store'
post #1150 of 1345
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Originally Posted by Z-Mad View Post

Mike99, you are discovering what most of us have gone through with our sets too. Motion handling is not great on this TV, there is no other way to say it. The fact that you notice some SOE no matter what settings you choose for motion enhancement and film mode is one of the biggest griefs I (and many others) have had with this TV. Even when you completely turn off motion enhancement and film mode, some residual SOE is still noticeable, rolleyes.gif

This is the reason why some of us use the game mode, which is the only mode that has no SOE at all. The reason is that this mode uses Sharp's so called Viper Drive, which cuts out all "fancy" picture enhancements, so there is no delay, no motion enhancement or film modes, etc. That's why these things are grayed out in game mode, but since you wouldn't want them anyway (if you hate SOE like many of us), this shouldn't bother you. The game mode is perfectly fine for watching movies or TV content, the only downside being that you can't do anything about some blur in potentially fast moving scenes. This is where the motion enhancement would help somewhat, but SOE automatically comes with it unfortunately, so it's like choosing the lesser of 2 evils. Actually I don't necessarily notice too much blur in game mode (certainly less than how much I notice the SOE in other modes), so I'm fine with that in general. When I really need to watch some fast content or sports, then I use the standard mode with motion enhancement on high, but film mode always off (film mode generates the biggest SOE). You can try my calibrated settings (from post 1108) if you like, which are for game and standard modes.

This TV is certainly not "perfect", but one couldn't really expect it to be either for the money. But that doesn't mean it's not a good TV overall and a great value. Good news is it actually produces very nice picture with the right settings, andyou get used to handling a bit of motion blur or SOE depending on which settings you are using. Hope this helps smile.gif
1080i through viber optic cable. Motion blur worse on some sports better on others. Nascar pretty good. NBA finals terrible. Would an external video processor bumping to 1080p eliminate this? Anyone here with experience with a vp on 70' sharp?
Also Z when you calibrated what was your final gamma reading ? I used i1pro with hcfr got a nice picture but the gamma reading is 1.90
post #1151 of 1345
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Originally Posted by ngsm13 View Post

Apparently it's a "store" mode, similar to demo mode.

You have to go through the intital setup again, and choose 'Home' as opposed to 'Store'

I just picked up a new 70" 640u thanks to the recent deal at Target. How do you go back through the initial setup again? I'm sure that mine is probably in "store" mode.

Thanks.
post #1152 of 1345
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Originally Posted by dougm216 View Post

1080i through viber optic cable. Motion blur worse on some sports better on others. Nascar pretty good. NBA finals terrible. Would an external video processor bumping to 1080p eliminate this? Anyone here with experience with a vp on 70' sharp?
Also Z when you calibrated what was your final gamma reading ? I used i1pro with hcfr got a nice picture but the gamma reading is 1.90

Yeah, the motion blur will differ from broadcast to broadcast and is mostly related to the source. A lot of stuff airing on TV is actually still broadcasted in 720p native res and such (as I was told by a calibrator). I have the AT&T Uverse on fiber optics so it's pretty good. Anyway, it'll be a bit of a hit and miss depending on the channel and your provider. Not sure how much upconverters help (if at all), but if you try it, do let me know if it works or makes any difference. Btw, I had the same gamma reading, but like you said, it looks good and I didn't see a need to change the gamma setting; but you can of course always change the gamma setting a bit if you have a preference... Cheers
post #1153 of 1345
What stand are y'all using for this tv? I got the 70" and can't mount it on the wall.
post #1154 of 1345
Why can't you mount it to the wall/? I have mine mounted with no issues...tongue.gif
post #1155 of 1345
I'm moving into an apartment. I haven't checked to see if I can or not. I'm assuming the worst. Ha.
post #1156 of 1345
I'm using a stand setup from Ikea..It's a small stand with a larger stand right next to it. Color is Blk/brwn. It actually when put together works and looks very nice with this tv.Cost was nice to, $92 out the door. Can try to take a pic or get exact model if you want to see or know.
post #1157 of 1345
yeah.Skin tones come of with too much yellow and I'm not sure what to tweak to fix it. 10.gif
post #1158 of 1345
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Originally Posted by Clemsonfan15 View Post

I'm moving into an apartment. I haven't checked to see if I can or not. I'm assuming the worst. Ha.


Ah I see, not wanting to assume but I'm sure you can manage to patch a few holes if you decide to wall mount it....Damn she look so sexy on my wall....Makes me want to get another one for the bedroom!!!!!
post #1159 of 1345
Hello, everyone. First post in this thread. Wife and I just picked up the 52 640U yesterday after having a Sony (50 inch for four years--circuit board went bad). I don't worry about the sound as I run everything through my AVR (don't listen to the tv speakers at all), then a single hdmi cable to the TV. My sources are Direct TV, Sony bluray, and, sometimes a second universal dvd player (not a bluray), but it is not used for movie watching, but for playing SACD's and DVD A's occasionally. No plans right now to use the WI FI in the TV or Netflix or any of the other things offered. No gaming, either. Just want to watch tv and dvd movies, at least for now. Just thought I would give a quick blurp on what I have.

When we first set this up yesterday (very simple/easy, by the way--and is wall mounted), I noticed the SOE. I kind of like it, but wife doesn't. (Sony did not have it). I looked for and found this thread and have been reading it off and on since yesterday. I have read the first 12 pages and the last 3 or 4. Lot of reading.

Wife has gone to bed, so I started playing with the settings. I use other people's settings. So, my first one to try is the one listed by Z-mad in post 1108. Pretty nice so far, but will have to wait and see what the wife says tomorrow. A couple of quick questions about the settings in general. First one. I made these settings watching ESPN over Direct TV. Will these settings transfer over when I change sources to my bluray? or will I have to do the setup when I am watching the bluray dvd? I don't like to, or plan to, change settings all the time. Once I find the picture quality I like, I'm through messing with it, if you know what I mean. No going from game mode to movie and back, etc.

Is there one post or place on here where all of the different settings people have suggested are to be had or directed to? As I've been reading, I've been writing down the different post numbers where someone has suggested their settings.

No complaints so far. Enjoying the set, and Z-mad's settings are really pretty nice, much better than what I was watching.

So, as you can see, I like to ramble. I am really thankful for the people that take the time to play with the settings to get the best possible picture, then to post it for others, like me, to try out and use. Much appreciated. Too difficult to even understand what all those numbers mean, etc.

Thx, again.
Frank
post #1160 of 1345
Gimpy, I agree with you..Z-mads settings are what I'm currently using as well. The Newest ones from when he did a calibration . You may have to tweak something here and there to your liking but they are a great starting point!

Just curious, it seems I believe I read when using the internet capabilities,you can have a sharp tech adjust your settings thru net..Has anybody tried this?

Also, how do you get sound thru Netflix out to your AVR, if you don't want to use internal tv speakers? I'm running hdmi strictly from satellite box, and media player to Pioneer 820s and letting it do the switching. But when I played around with netflix thru the tv,which is decent, I couldn't get sound out to my receiver...any ideas?I'm pretty sure I'm using the ARC hdmi port so not sure what to do here..
post #1161 of 1345
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Originally Posted by gimpy View Post

Hello, everyone. First post in this thread. Wife and I just picked up the 52 640U yesterday after having a Sony (50 inch for four years--circuit board went bad). I don't worry about the sound as I run everything through my AVR (don't listen to the tv speakers at all), then a single hdmi cable to the TV. My sources are Direct TV, Sony bluray, and, sometimes a second universal dvd player (not a bluray), but it is not used for movie watching, but for playing SACD's and DVD A's occasionally. No plans right now to use the WI FI in the TV or Netflix or any of the other things offered. No gaming, either. Just want to watch tv and dvd movies, at least for now. Just thought I would give a quick blurp on what I have.

When we first set this up yesterday (very simple/easy, by the way--and is wall mounted), I noticed the SOE. I kind of like it, but wife doesn't. (Sony did not have it). I looked for and found this thread and have been reading it off and on since yesterday. I have read the first 12 pages and the last 3 or 4. Lot of reading.

Wife has gone to bed, so I started playing with the settings. I use other people's settings. So, my first one to try is the one listed by Z-mad in post 1108. Pretty nice so far, but will have to wait and see what the wife says tomorrow. A couple of quick questions about the settings in general. First one. I made these settings watching ESPN over Direct TV. Will these settings transfer over when I change sources to my bluray? or will I have to do the setup when I am watching the bluray dvd? I don't like to, or plan to, change settings all the time. Once I find the picture quality I like, I'm through messing with it, if you know what I mean. No going from game mode to movie and back, etc.

Is there one post or place on here where all of the different settings people have suggested are to be had or directed to? As I've been reading, I've been writing down the different post numbers where someone has suggested their settings.

No complaints so far. Enjoying the set, and Z-mad's settings are really pretty nice, much better than what I was watching.

So, as you can see, I like to ramble. I am really thankful for the people that take the time to play with the settings to get the best possible picture, then to post it for others, like me, to try out and use. Much appreciated. Too difficult to even understand what all those numbers mean, etc.

Thx, again.
Frank

Frank, once you have the "perfect" settings you and your wife are both happy with, there should be no need to change them regardless of content your are watching. These settings are based on achieving the accurate natural colors and optimized brightness and contrasts for all the proper white and black detail, etc. With these attributes there should be no reason to ever change the settings regardless what you are watching, unless your sources are substantially different. Hope this helps you and enjoy your new TV. By the way, I fully agree with your wife and absolutely hate the SOE biggrin.gif
post #1162 of 1345
Brickie, sorry. I don't use Netflix, so can't help you there. All my movie watching is with dvds. And everything first goes through my Harman Kardon receiver, then to the tv. Nothing comes "from" the tv.

Z-mad, Thx. The picture and color is really nice. I think it's on the movie mode. I'm going to switch it to "standard" tonight and see how that affects it. It pretty much did away with the SOE affect.

One quick question I meant to ask and don't think I did. This tv was on clearance from Sears. I don't know it's date of manufacture, but was wondering about the software updates put out by Sharp. Is there a way to go into settings to see what software date you're on? Without hooking the internet/Wi-Fi up to it?

Thx.
post #1163 of 1345
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Originally Posted by Clemsonfan15 View Post

I'm moving into an apartment. I haven't checked to see if I can or not. I'm assuming the worst. Ha.
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Originally Posted by Clemsonfan15 View Post

What stand are y'all using for this tv? I got the 70" and can't mount it on the wall.

Have you thought about a stand with a built in mount?

Here's an example:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B0MEXEG/ref=asc_df_B00B0MEXEG2472468?smid=A1L4LS2KNDBWYV&tag=nextagusmp0408502-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B00B0MEXEG

post #1164 of 1345
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Yeah. I was looking at some like that. That seems like it would be a good solution. The price on those is pretty expensive though. I'll have to see if there are other cheaper alternatives.

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Originally Posted by brickie View Post

I'm using a stand setup from Ikea..It's a small stand with a larger stand right next to it. Color is Blk/brwn. It actually when put together works and looks very nice with this tv.Cost was nice to, $92 out the door. Can try to take a pic or get exact model if you want to see or know.

Funny you mentioned that. Ikea was going to be the first place I go after I move in.

I have my eye on the Byas and the Besta that is 70" long.



One more question and I promise I won't ask any more for a while.

I'm moving about 500 miles and am using a Penske truck. I don't have the box for the tv. How would y'all recommend packing it in the truck? I have bubble wrap on it now and was going to put some moving blanks under it to help absorb the bumps. I also thought about standing it up on the sofa and some how securing it so that it can move slightly up and down, but not side to side.

Any thoughts?
post #1165 of 1345
I would remove the stand and lay it flat on its back in the truck on some soft padding.. Bubble wrap and covers are good. Keep the dust off of it.
post #1166 of 1345
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Originally Posted by dee zee View Post

I would remove the stand and lay it flat on its back in the truck on some soft padding.. Bubble wrap and covers are good. Keep the dust off of it.

Wrap it in bubble wrap and blankets - please transport vertically.



http://bigcitymovingco.com/blog/bid/111546/Professional-Moving-Tips-How-To-Pack-A-TV

Check best buy and other stores for boxes. They don't save them. Check the UPS store. Some other links:

How to Safely Pack a Flat Panel TV for Moving
http://www.ehow.com/how_4537503_pack-flat-panel-tv-moving.html

62" To 70" TV Box
http://www.cheapcheapmovingboxes.com/Moving-Boxes-Flat-Screen-TV-Box-Up-To-37_5.html#.UcEYT_m1HNs

TV Box and Foam Kit 60-70 inch
http://moving-boxes.upack.com/moving-supplies/tv-box-and-foam-kit-60-70-inch/



http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120524174236AAOZoRm
I moved mine and I made the worst mistake. I laid it flat on a pillow. So what i would do is if you still have the stuff that came in the box. you can put that around the edges and lay it as you would having it set up while watching it. You will crack the screen if you lay it down. So. What I am going to do is. tape the screen like an X. then put a blanket over it so it will not scratch the screen try to make the tv as comfortable as possible. any pressure from anywhere will damage it. their is no other answer to this question. I had to send mine back. I go lucky and they gave me a new one. Ikeep my original stuff that came with the box so i can move it safely. Good Luck. and God Bless.
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I broke mine while moving and I layed mine flat in the truck. I should have packed it in the bubble wrapping and let it go from their.
1 year ago
post #1167 of 1345
I did not know that. Now I do. Good info, DON'T lay it on its back!!
post #1168 of 1345
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Originally Posted by brickie View Post

Also, how do you get sound thru Netflix out to your AVR, if you don't want to use internal tv speakers? I'm running hdmi strictly from satellite box, and media player to Pioneer 820s and letting it do the switching. But when I played around with netflix thru the tv,which is decent, I couldn't get sound out to my receiver...any ideas?I'm pretty sure I'm using the ARC hdmi port so not sure what to do here..

Brickie,

Is ARC enabled? We use ARC since we still get our TV OTA, and I believe that I had to enable it in the menu. There might have been two related parameters that needed to be changed, but I can't recall.

As an alternative, do you have anything that supports Netflix that will work through the AVR and HDMI?
I think that we have five boxes that support Netflix (XBOX, Wii, BD, Apple TV, Roku) in addition to the TV.
post #1169 of 1345
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Originally Posted by ItsJohnB View Post

Brickie,

Is ARC enabled? We use ARC since we still get our TV OTA, and I believe that I had to enable it in the menu. There might have been two related parameters that needed to be changed, but I can't recall.

As an alternative, do you have anything that supports Netflix that will work through the AVR and HDMI?
I think that we have five boxes that support Netflix (XBOX, Wii, BD, Apple TV, Roku) in addition to the TV.

Audio Return needs to be enabled in the receiver also.
post #1170 of 1345
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Originally Posted by cp22 View Post

Ya it's not a huge issue, just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. Do you have the graphs/calibration numbers?

cp22 (and anyone interested), I couldn't help it and finally got myself my own equipment (C3 meter with Calman 5). Last time I had only borrowed equipment to work with and had to rush the calibration somewhat. So now I'm able to take my sweet time and must say was able to get awesome results that even surpass any previous settings. I started with movie mode and here are the optimal settings. Practically "perfect" white balance/gamma and CMS is more accurate than I thought was doable on this TV (report images below). I highly recommend these settings to anyone (provided they translate correctly on your set). With these settings there is no green tint any more either that I observed with other movie mode settings. I'll be following up with updated game mode soon too.

AV MODE: MOVIE
OPC: Off
Backlight: +8 (This can be lowered or increased for amount of light output that suits individual room brightness)
Contrast: +28
Brightness: +2
Color: +4
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0

--Advanced sub-menu

C.M.S. -Hue
R: 0
Y: +3
G: +4
C: +1
B: 0
M: 0

C.M.S. -Saturation
R: -9
Y: -11
G: -9
C: -25
B: 0
M: -17

C.M.S. -Value
R: +8
Y: -2
G: -1
C: +8
B: +7
M: +11

Color Temp: Low
R Gain (LO): +28
G Gain (LO): +2
B Gain (LO): -15
R Gain (HI): +7
G Gain (HI): -15
B Gain (HI): -19

Motion Enhancement: 120Hz High
Active Contrast: Off
Gamma Adjustment: -2
Black Level: [grayed out]
Film Mode: Off
Digital Noise Reduction: Off
Monochrome: Off
Range of OPC: [any]



Edited by Z-Mad - 6/22/13 at 8:01pm
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