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post #421 of 1345
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Originally Posted by vonxn View Post

I wish I could be enjoying this football but this TV is horrible. Watching the New Orleans game certain spots on the field look blurry. Around players shoulders looks pixelated..I'm seriously thinking of returning it for a plasma.

I watched the game your posting about and the PQ was excellent with no trailing effects, pixelation, or out of focus areas coming from ATT Uverse service on the 70" 640u and the same excellent IQ at my son-in-law`s house where he has Direct TV Satellite feeding his 60" 640u where i watched the 2nd half of the game.

Not saying you might not have a bad display but it does sound like poor signal feed. A Plasma or any other different display wont resolve signal transmission. I certainly realize returning the set for the same model is a PITA but i suggest if you have a DVR to record one of the channels that is giving you the poor quality your describing prior to exchanging this 640u and then replaying the recorded clip on the replacement TV you decide upon.

Regards & Good Luck, wink.gif
post #422 of 1345
Thanks Silver

Yeah going to return the 600u for 640u. Going to be a pain big TV back to the store.

Question: Does anyone one know if picture will improve from 600u to 640u?

Thanks
post #423 of 1345
Just got back from Costco with my new Sharp 70 inch tv. Last day of the sale and they still had 7 left, and I'll be curious to see how many more they sell today. I'm going to get it unboxed, set up, and slap some of the settings in there from this thread and see how it looks. I'll report back tomorrow after I've had a chance to play.
post #424 of 1345
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Originally Posted by gordon7 View Post

Don't keep the plasma.get the Sharp. First make sure that your source doesn't create problems since signal compression could be different on different channels. Secondary disable all video processing on the TV (try Game mode for starters).

I can't comment on the plasma versus LED argument objectively, but my experimentation last week with OTA versus cable sources back-up what you're saying here gordon7. I compared the OTA signal I was getting of last week's Panthers/Tampa Bay game on Fox with my lowly amplified rabbit ear antenna to what I was getting via cable (Comporium Communications). The cable broadcast had some of the pixellation and blurriness problems vonxn is describing, while the OTA source had no problem in either area.
Edited by OnlookerDelay - 11/26/12 at 11:33am
post #425 of 1345
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Originally Posted by Silverfox1 View Post

I watched the game your posting about and the PQ was excellent with no trailing effects, pixelation, or out of focus areas coming from ATT Uverse service on the 70" 640u and the same excellent IQ at my son-in-law`s house where he has Direct TV Satellite feeding his 60" 640u where i watched the 2nd half of the game.
Not saying you might not have a bad display but it does sound like poor signal feed. A Plasma or any other different display wont resolve signal transmission. I certainly realize returning the set for the same model is a PITA but i suggest if you have a DVR to record one of the channels that is giving you the poor quality your describing prior to exchanging this 640u and then replaying the recorded clip on the replacement TV you decide upon.
Regards & Good Luck, wink.gif

Thanks for your reply. What kind of settings are you running?
post #426 of 1345
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Originally Posted by OnlookerDelay View Post

I can't comment on the plasma versus LED argument objectively, but my experimentation last week with OTA versus cable sources back-up what you're saying here gordon7. I compared the OTA signal I was getting of last week's Panters/Tampa Bay game on Fox with my lowly amplified rabbit ear antenna to what I was getting via cable (Comporium Communications) and the cable broadcast had some of the pixellation and blurriness problems vonxn is describing, while the OTA source had no problem in either area.

What kind of settings are you running for watching sports? After doing some reading I've set motion enhancement to low because with it on high the ball streaks. I just have a hard time thinking its my provider it's run through optic.
post #427 of 1345
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Originally Posted by vonxn View Post

What kind of settings are you running for watching sports? After doing some reading I've set motion enhancement to low because with it on high the ball streaks. I just have a hard time thinking its my provider it's run through optic.

Using an OTA broadast signal, I found it best to turn motion enhancement off. I didn't see much of any problem with motion judder while receiving OTA. When viewing the obviously compressed cable signal, I turned the motion enhancement on high (I notice no difference between high and low in my experimentation) to help smooth out the motion judder of the players, but it does enable the comet trail/ghost ball syndrome on passes and kicks. This is why I'm desperately trying to work out a permanent antenna solution so that I can receive an optimum OTA signal from all the major networks. The streaking/ghost ball problem is only going to become more evident for basketball viewing.
post #428 of 1345
Maybe I'm just lucky that I have DirecTV. I watched a good bit of football on Sunday. I used the settings I've previously mentioned and noticed absolutely zero issues with high speed plays, passes, or anything.
post #429 of 1345
I can't imagine trying to watch basketball on this TV. I think I am really going to struggle once hockey is back on.

ancker do you mind copy and pasteing your settings?

Thanks!
post #430 of 1345
vonxn, set motion enhancement to OFF, disable 120 Hz. Also set Noise reduction to off. If your input signal is over compressed then fast motion picture will suffer regardless your TV settings. I have Dish and on some sport programming I can see a little ghosting, only if I'm looking for it. Doesn't bother me at all. Most of the time there is no ghosting. Also some people's eyes can be more sensitive to ghosting.
post #431 of 1345
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Originally Posted by vonxn View Post

I can't imagine trying to watch basketball on this TV. I think I am really going to struggle once hockey is back on.
ancker do you mind copy and pasteing your settings?
Thanks!

I used SilverFox1's "Standard" settings a few pages back.
post #432 of 1345
I wasn't going to comment until tomorrow but I will just say that out of the box without tweaking any settings and using Verizon Fios, this set is totally breathtaking on the High Def Channels. I know I will be able to dial it in even better (it does lean towards the red side, but not as much as I thought it would). If I was over at a friends house and I saw the picture just the way it is, I'd think it was outstanding.
I'll give a full review tomorrow or the next day after I tweak it, but so far this will be a keeper.
post #433 of 1345
Okay thanks for the tips guys. Maybe it IS just my provider. So by the sounds of it game mode is best for sports?
post #434 of 1345
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Originally Posted by vonxn View Post

Thanks for your reply. What kind of settings are you running?

vonxn,

I still continue to use the below settings for Standard Mode on both the initial 60" 640u purchased and the 70" 640u using ATT Uverse. My son-in-law whom just purchased the 60" 640u also uses the same settings with Direct TV satellite service although he likes the Color Temp set to " High " which IMO also looks just fine to my eyes.

AV Mode: Standard

Backlight : +8
Brightness: -9
Contrast: +34
Color: +1
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +4

Color Temp: Med-High
Motion Enhancement: OFF
Active Contrast: OFF
Film Mode: Advanced Mode +2 [ The wife likes a little SOE ]
Digital Noise Reduction: Off
Monochrome: Off
OPC: OFF

The above are good starting points if you like some vibrant pop in your display but by all means tweak them to your eyes and individual TV.


Regards, wink.gif
post #435 of 1345
Awesome! Thank you!

Do you recommend these settings for sports?!
post #436 of 1345
..and yes i like a vibrant pop so im looking forward to trying these!
post #437 of 1345
not sure who it was asking but i can tell from first hand experience the difference between the 640u and the 600u is huge the 600u sucks and i took it back the same week i bough it. The 640 is quite an improvement
post #438 of 1345
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Originally Posted by Silverfox1 View Post

vonxn,
I still continue to use the below settings for Standard Mode on both the initial 60" 640u purchased and the 70" 640u using ATT Uverse. My son-in-law whom just purchased the 60" 640u also uses the same settings with Direct TV satellite service although he likes the Color Temp set to " High " which IMO also looks just fine to my eyes.



The above are good starting points if you like some vibrant pop in your display but by all means tweak them to your eyes and individual TV.
Regards, wink.gif

Oh yea! Thats the pop I was looking for. Just darkened it down a smidge. Man, my 640u 60" makes MN football look like its in 3d!!! Thanks!
Edited by woodeka - 11/26/12 at 6:09pm
post #439 of 1345
Looking for a recommendation for a Wall Mount bracket for the 70" 640u before CyberMonday is over. What bracket is everyone with the 70 inch satisfied with??? Ordering HDMI cables from mono price, might as well order a wall mount bracket.
post #440 of 1345
Going to return my Samsung 550 plasma today and pick up the sharp 640u hope I'm making a good choice. I'll keep you posted. This will be my first led TV.
post #441 of 1345
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Originally Posted by sldozier View Post

Looking for a recommendation for a Wall Mount bracket for the 70" 640u before CyberMonday is over. What bracket is everyone with the 70 inch satisfied with??? Ordering HDMI cables from mono price, might as well order a wall mount bracket.

You might consider the below:

Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Mount-It-TV-Wall-Articulating-Displays/dp/B002CTV060/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top


Monoprice: "Appears to be out of stock"

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=8254&seq=1&format=2

You could do some calling & research to see if the one below from Monoprice would work with the 70" that weighs about 80lbs. without the stand:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=8588&seq=1&format=6#faq

Or use the below from Monoprice that some folks use to hang the Sharp 80" 632u but dont have the same movement capabilities:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082801&p_id=6663&seq=1&format=2&ref=cj



Regards, wink.gif
Edited by Silverfox1 - 11/27/12 at 8:04am
post #442 of 1345
Just picked up the 70" 640 series last night. Messing with the picture setting quickly from a few review sites. Problem is to me, all these setting seem to be dull. The colors appear to be yellow-ish, faces look bland. i know color calibration is a personal preference, but what other references are a good start. I usually just watch regular TV and movies. Also play video games on the set as well.

Im currently using these settings:

http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/sharp-lcd-tv/sharp-le640u-calibration.html

It looks ok to me, but will require some work. also, how do I get into 10-point color settings?

So far the TV looks pretty good. Hope I can zero in on the color features a little bit better.
post #443 of 1345
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Originally Posted by EckoInLasVegas View Post

Just picked up the 70" 640 series last night. Messing with the picture setting quickly from a few review sites. Problem is to me, all these setting seem to be dull. The colors appear to be yellow-ish, faces look bland. i know color calibration is a personal preference, but what other references are a good start. I usually just watch regular TV and movies. Also play video games on the set as well.
Im currently using these settings:
http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/sharp-lcd-tv/sharp-le640u-calibration.html
It looks ok to me, but will require some work. also, how do I get into 10-point color settings?
So far the TV looks pretty good. Hope I can zero in on the color features a little bit better.

Hmm. I dont see how you could use those settings since the 640/6400 only has 2-point color setting.
post #444 of 1345
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Originally Posted by Silverfox1 View Post

You might consider the below:
Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Mount-It-TV-Wall-Articulating-Displays/dp/B002CTV060/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Monoprice: "Appears to be out of stock"
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=8254&seq=1&format=2
You could do some calling & research to see if the one below from Monoprice would work with the 70" that weighs about 80lbs. without the stand:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=8588&seq=1&format=6#faq
Or use the below from Monoprice that some folks use to hang the Sharp 80" 632u but dont have the same movement capabilities:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082801&p_id=6663&seq=1&format=2&ref=cj
Regards, wink.gif

Thank you sir. I"m thinking one of the monoprice mounts will work for me.
post #445 of 1345
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Originally Posted by Silverfox1 View Post

vonxn,
I still continue to use the below settings for Standard Mode on both the initial 60" 640u purchased and the 70" 640u using ATT Uverse. My son-in-law whom just purchased the 60" 640u also uses the same settings with Direct TV satellite service although he likes the Color Temp set to " High " which IMO also looks just fine to my eyes.
AV Mode: Standard
Backlight : +8
Brightness: -9
Contrast: +34
Color: +1
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +4
Color Temp: Med-High
Motion Enhancement: OFF
Active Contrast: OFF
Film Mode: Advanced Mode +2 [ The wife likes a little SOE ]
Digital Noise Reduction: Off
Monochrome: Off
OPC: OFF
The above are good starting points if you like some vibrant pop in your display but by all means tweak them to your eyes and individual TV.
Regards, wink.gif

After staying up most of the night, I'm finding I just can't get enough of this TV. To start off with, I'm using Verizon Fios and will only be commenting on how the set looks with cable channels and on demand movies since I have not had a chance yet to go to BB and get my new Blu Ray player.
For the first several hours, I watched everything in the default Standard settings without any tweaking. I must say, that SOE was quite evident and colors were very vibrant. This isn't what I would normally like but with the increase in size and the overall wow factor, you just get sucked in and are too busy catching your breath. The color definitely leans towards red, but not nearly as much as I thought it would.
After I got my fill, it was time to make some adjustments. I slapped on SilverFox1’s settings and started viewing as many High Def cable channels and DVR’d shows as possible. From that, I ended up leaving most of the settings the same with the exception of Film mode (off) Color Temp (which I put on high) and Color (which I dialed down even more to -10). I know most people might think that the picture might be washed out with that color setting, but to me it makes the skin tones very accurate while still giving great color to everything else.
As for motion blur during sports, I just got done watching a few hours of all the HD sports channels…MLB, Tennis, NFL, Hockey, etc , and I have no complaints. In fact, only Hockey had some minor blur (I’m not a big hockey fan but felt it was more than acceptable) but feel it probably would be even better in game mode.
I didn’t watch much on the SD channels, and usually don’t anyway, but I did think they look ok…at least better than I thought they would considering I’m now watching them on a set that’s 20 inches bigger.
Last but not least, I think the sound through the speakers is very acceptable. Not blow you away great, but I didn’t have it on very high and was able to hear all dialog etc. Hey, they are TV speakers. For everyday viewing they are more than fine…but of course, you’re gonna wanna use your surround sound for that movie experience.
This has got to be the most underrated TV of all time, unless I got one of the few good ones. Either way, I’m really really happy, and I just want to say thanks to everyone that shared their opinion.
Edited by mr266 - 11/27/12 at 12:18pm
post #446 of 1345
By the way, I cannot see any clouding or flashlighting and overall the screen seems to have good consistent lighting from edge to edge. If there is any of these problems, I sure can't see it.
post #447 of 1345
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Originally Posted by mr266 View Post

By the way, I cannot see any clouding or flashlighting and overall the screen seems to have good consistent lighting from edge to edge. If there is any of these problems, I sure can't see it.

I agree with your synopsis that for the price this is definitely a keeper for folks that dont care about 3D content. Sharp did indeed resolve last years 730 series models that suffered from the dreaded darkened corners.

I purchased both the 60" 640u & the 70"640u for less then i paid for my Samsung Flagship full array LED with local dimming LN55A950 4 yrs. ago and have absolutely no regrets since the electronic boards in the 5-8K top of the line sets will fail just like they do in these much less expensive units. The days of me spending 4K + on TV`s are gone just to claim i have a little darker blacks. I see no clouding, flashlighting, light bleeding, banding, darkened corners, lip sync issues, etc. with this 640u model. Providing you have a good consistent 1080i signal from your host client sending the broadcast signal its hard for me to see most all folks not enjoying this TV.

Regards, wink.gif
post #448 of 1345
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Originally Posted by Silverfox1 View Post

I agree with your synopsis that for the price this is definitely a keeper for folks that dont care about 3D content. Sharp did indeed resolve last years 730 series models that suffered from the dreaded darkened corners.
I purchased both the 60" 640u & the 70"640u for less then i paid for my Samsung Flagship full array LED with local dimming LN55A950 4 yrs. ago and have absolutely no regrets since the electronic boards in the 5-8K top of the line sets will fail just like they do in these much less expensive units. The days of me spending 4K + on TV`s are gone just to claim i have a little darker blacks. I see no clouding, flashlighting, light bleeding, banding, darkened corners, lip sync issues, etc. with this 640u model. Providing you have a good consistent 1080i signal from your host client sending the broadcast signal its hard for me to see most all folks not enjoying this TV.
Regards, wink.gif

I hear ya. We were going to purchase the 80 inch, but I just had a real hard time wanting to spend twice as much as the 70 inch tv...especially when we were coming from a 50 inch anyway. I'm sure I would have liked the 80, but I don't think I would have liked it $2000 dollars more. Also, my thinking is that by the time this tv goes out for good, the 80 and maybe even the 90 inch sets will be down around $2000 anyway and life will be good.
post #449 of 1345
well it rained here today and I didnt get to return my Samsung 550 plasma to get this tv. Taking a second look at my sammy i am not 100 percent sure i want to return it. I have a Hisense 32in in my bed room and I know that its nothing compared to the sharp but I love the picture on it. its only 60hz but sports still look decent. On my sammy seems like everything looks pretty good I am just not sure that the sharp will be able to surpass my sammy. I hate to return the sammy and get the sharp and not like it and have to return it. Any thoughts.
post #450 of 1345
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Originally Posted by Silverfox1 View Post

... I see no clouding, flashlighting, light bleeding, banding, darkened corners, lip sync issues, etc...

I'd agree with everything you mention, except for the lip sync issues. That has been a major problem when an external amp/receiver is used, and there is any processing going on inside the television.
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