Official 2012 Sharp LC-XXLE640U/XXC6400U - Page 24

Originally Posted by Z-Mad 

Thanks for sharing. I'll check them out just for comparison sake. I know what you mean with not being able to leave things alone, lol. I've been continuously doing minor tweaks too.
My current tweaks are:

CMS Hue for red (R): -12 (realized this gives me slightly more accurate red tones)

Brightness: 0 (was able to go just a bit darker for more solid blacks without loosing any detail)

Yeah, minor tweaks that do not make a big difference any more, so rather a personal preference matter at this point...

Originally Posted by chucklee 

Like yourself, I do nnot really require the Smart Features; it is the Advanced Settings which allow fine-tuning color adjustments which make the 640 model superior for me.. without these adjustments, I would never have been able to calibrate the picture accurately, and would have returned it in frustration.

Originally Posted by Oldgregg99 

Hello everyone, I actually have the Sharp 60le640u and I have the exact question asked at the beginning of this thread regarding this units ability to output Dolby Digital 5.1 to external speakers. I just bought bose cinemate series ii system and I know it's DD and DD 5.1 capable. I have it connected to my tv via optical cable and I also went into the terminal settings on tv and changed it from PCM to Dolby Digital. I asked the question earlier on another thread and the consensus was the tv only used DD thru internal tuner but not externally. The sound coming from my bose speakers sound great and to me like dolby digital. I tested it out today by directly connecting the optical cable to ps3 to see if that would sound different and more apparent as DD. 5.1 but sounded the same but with lag between audio and picture so I switched it back. The language from the Manuel (posted by someone above ) suggests to me it DOES output DD and DD 5.1 to external speaker equipment. Has anyone else with this tv or anyone with knowledge on this issue come to any conclusions?

Originally Posted by xtc 

i am getting a LC52LE640U i want to ask this sharp led is made in Japan or China ?

Originally Posted by thrian 

Z mad... Can you post your current settings with all tweaks please?

Originally Posted by Z-Mad 

Here you go... After resetting the CMS values and doing another run with some added calibration slides, still images and various content (still also using the Panny VT50 for reference), I am currently using these settings. Although the settings previously posted were already amazing on my set, I have given it another run in an effort to get each color tone as natural and accurate as possible. Nuances, but I think I was able to take the color accuracy yet another notch up. Feel free to try those and see how they turn out for you. As previously stated by me and others too, the settings do not always translate the same from one TV to another (also depending on your source), so you may or may not need to do some of your own tweaks to get everything to your liking... Hope this helps you...

AV MODE: GAME
OPC: Off
Backlight: STD
Contrast: +30
Brightness: 0
Color: +2
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +1

--Advanced sub-menu

C.M.S. -Hue
R: -6
Y: -2
G: -9
C: -13
B: -16
M: +10

C.M.S. -Saturation
R: -15
Y: -6
G: -18
C: 0
B: -9
M: -6

C.M.S. -Value
R: -4
Y: -6
G: +10
C: 0
B: +12
M: -2

Color Temp: Low
R Gain (LO): 0
G Gain (LO): +3
B Gain (LO): -7
R Gain (HI): -5
G Gain (HI): 0
B Gain (HI): -6

Motion Enhancement: [grayed out]
Active Contrast: Off
Gamma Adjustment: +2
Black Level: [grayed out]
Film Mode: [grayed out]
Digital Noise Reduction: Off
Monochrome: Off
Range of OPC: [any]

Originally Posted by cowwrangler 

I just got the LC-60LE640U. Does anyone know if I can use an Apple TV with this TV? Will it interfere with the built-in wireless?

Originally Posted by cowwrangler 

I just got the LC-60LE640U. Does anyone know if I can use an Apple TV with this TV? Will it interfere with the built-in wireless?

Originally Posted by txhambone 

@myoda - Thanks for the details and the link to the converter box. I might go that route in the future.




I had already setup the TV to pass DD5.1 from it's own tuner. From that I assumed it would also pass DD5.1 audio in from HDMI sources. That's rather unfortunate, I don't understand why the unit can't do it.


I read on (some other forums) that there is some negotiation via HDMI between the source and playback device about the playback device's capabilities and that most panels, including those from manufacturers other than Sharp, also have this problem.


That seems like a real short coming.


If we can configure this TV to output DD5.1 from its tuner, effectively telling the set that there is a DD5.1 capable device on the other end of the optical link, then the TV should inform it's HDMI connected devices that it is capable of playing back DD5.1 even if that means disabling on-board audio and passing the DD5.1 through the digital output to the off-board equipment. It seems silly that we have all these HDMI inputs on the set and it can't even MUX the audio streams at high quality. One discussion I read mentioned that this is done because the set may not be able to de-mux the DD5.1 stream down to its own two speakers. That doesn't make sense because the set still plays audio out its two built in speakers even when it outputs DD5.1 over the optical from its own tuner..... sigh.


I'll re-wire my digital audio later this week so my media player again goes direct to my receiver.


As an update to users who have this set, or one in the family of sets, Sharp released a firmware update today (April 10, 2012) called version "213U1203281". There is no mention of this firmware or release notes for it on the Sharp USA site. My set prompted me if if wanted to update to this version and I said yes.


From what I can tall all this firmware version does is remove the Blockbuster application from the set. I'm not sure if any of the Blockbuster rental service customers were interested in buying this TV but if you were you might think again.



Cheers,

--Adam

Originally Posted by H8ter2 

You can use your Apple TV with no issues, I use mine all the time

Originally Posted by cowwrangler 

Thank you H8ter2! Did you have to turn off the internal WiFi (if there is a way)?

Originally Posted by H8ter2 

Tried these, for my set at least your last game settings are a better overall picture. Figured I would give you some feedback for your work. Thanks

Originally Posted by mccunersxve 

For those of you that don't like or use the 120Hz motion processing feature on this set, have you experienced what televisioninfo.com is reporting? ...

"The biggest offense is the motion processing on this unit. You have the option to watch film based content that is overly smooth with the 120Hz Fine Motion Enhanced feature on, or a super juddery picture with it off. Every now and again, the judder speeds up and looks interpolated, even with the motion processing off. This could be passable performance on a smaller television, but when the picture takes up most of the room, it’s hard not to notice a jerky video, followed by sections of super smoothness, only to return to jerkiness again. We could forgive poor color performance, but viewing this Sharp without the motion processing is very jarring."

Originally Posted by Eric290 

No problem. I like how mine looks now, but I think I'm gonna stretch out those CMS settings toward your numbers again and see how it looks. I bet it will look a bit better since you're using a calibrated VT50 for comparison. I felt like I didn't want to make major CMS changes without actual calibration, since the color was looking really good with the small changes I made. Honestly, though, I'm not the best judge of color tones.

On my set, I did notice early on that Brightness set to 0 took away some shadow detail. I was watching NCIS a few weeks ago, and there was a shot of Gibbs in a dark sportcoat. My brightness was set to 0. I paused the shot, and I noticed I could not see where the lapels started and main coat stopped. His arms were against his sides, and in fact, you couldn't see the line between his arms & his body. With the shot paused, I bumped the brightness to +1 and all those detail lines appeared. Then, I bumped to +2, and there was no additional detail, but the entire sportcoat got just slightly more gray. Brightness at +1 seems to be the magic number on my set. Earlier in this thread someone posted that their brightness was down at -9.......

Originally Posted by Z-Mad 

The best picture mode to use with this TV is the "game" mode. It has all motion enhancement features grayed out/turned off by default and looks most natural without those issues described above. That's why most 640U owners calibrate the game mode for the best viewing experience... Especially if playing xbox 360 is one of your main uses, you will have to use the game mode anyway (not playable in any other mode).

Originally Posted by Oldgregg99 

So you're suggesting use game mode viewing for all things, tv watching, movies, games? I have mine on default dynamic then switch to game or movie default depending in which I'm doing... Am I shortcoming myself picture quality?

Originally Posted by dee zee 

I just purchased the LC-60LE640U last week. The picture looked good out of the box which was set to Standard. I adjusted my settings to the ones recommended by CNET using the USER 1 mode and the picture looks FAB.

I did run into some lip sync problems with my 13 year old surround amp with no HDMI. Lip sync was off with surround on and coming from DVR or from blu ray. So had to purchase a new surround amp with HDMI and with auto and manual lip sync adjustments and that took care of the sync problem.

So far, very happy with the set after coming from a 2003 50 inch HD LCD rear projection unit that was still working but had only one HDMI to DVI video only input. Now very apparent how soft and dark an old rear projection can be compared to this Sharp.

I bought the set from retail HH Gregg ($1099) and I experienced very good customer service at the store and in the delivery.