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post #751 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Z-Mad View Post

No worries, glad if I was able to be of any help smile.gif

Question Z-Mad or anyone else. I want to first say thanks again for this setting, picture is great. There is just one thing I literally noticed just a little bit ago, on this "game " mode the picture appears to have a subtle flutter or vibration to it , when I switch to another mode other than game it goes away...any suggestions?
post #752 of 1125
I have just recently purchased the LC-60LE640u for $900 at Best Buy (through a price match to Fry's) and I am very happy with it. I originally bought the LC-60LE600u but ended up returning it in favor of this model mainly because they ended up being the same price. I will say that the 640u is superior to the 600u. Like many others, I was fooled into thinking that the 600u was a 640u without smart apps, and a few connections, but I was very wrong. I can't be sure that the panel really is different, but I can say that the software/hardware that drives it is extremely different. I was already aware at the time of purchasing the 600u that it lacked advanced picture controls, but I thought that I would be okay with that, again I was wrong. I had the opportunity to have both side by side plugged into my computer displaying identical screens.

Picture Brightness:
The 600u was much much darker than the 640u and much of the black detail was lost (something that I noticed before buying the 640u). No setting on the 600u was able to correct the darkness and bring out the black detail. Raising the brightness setting on the 600u just made the blacks grey, but no extra detail was brought out which was confirmed using calibration patterns. The only way I was able to correct for the darkness was to raise the brightness in Windows which seemed to correct the problem though this solution would only work for my PC connection, so I would have been out of luck for my Wii and Xbox connections.

Colors:
The 600u actually seemed to have more accurate colors out of the box than the 640u which made faces too red out of the box. Unlike the 600u though, the 640u gave ample amount of color adjustment controls to fix this issue (though I still haven't dialed the colors in to my liking yet, but the capability to do so is there).

Clouding Issues:
In my case both TVs had significant clouding and back-light bleeding problems, with the 640u being slightly worse in my particular case. (See the thread at http://www.avsforum.com/t/1453606/sharp-lc-60le640u-clouding )

Dark Red Issues:
Dark scenes dimly lit by a red-ish or orange-ish light (such as by candlelight), the 640u tends to over-exaggerate the dark reds whereas the 600u did not. An example scene where this happens is in MI:Ghost Protocol, there is a scene when they are on an airplane (just before India scene) where a chain mail suit is floating above a magnet in the foreground. On the 600u, the chain mail suit appeared grey with a very slight amount of red, but in the 640u, the suit appeared quite red in some parts (for comparison, my calibrated NEC IPS monitors displayed something in between the two). I tried playing around with the picture settings, but I was unable to reduce the amount of red in the picture. Overall, the issue is very minor and may not really be an issue at all if it is really supposed to look like that. I do not know whether this is only my TV or it applies to all 640u's, can someone please chime in on this.

Dark Yellow Issues:
On my 640u, when displaying a color test pattern, very dark yellows tend to turn red. This condition did not occur on the 600u. Again, I do not know if this is unique to my specific TV or not, can anybody comment on this?

Overall:
Overall the 640u is a superior TV and even with the issues I would still recommend this TV. I would not however recommend the 600u as the darkness issue is just too big of an issue. I would like to hear if anyone else is (or better yet is not) experiencing if the clouding, dark red, or dark yellow problems as I would consider exchanging my TV for the same model if it resolves any of these issues.
post #753 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Oldgregg99 View Post

Question Z-Mad or anyone else. I want to first say thanks again for this setting, picture is great. There is just one thing I literally noticed just a little bit ago, on this "game " mode the picture appears to have a subtle flutter or vibration to it , when I switch to another mode other than game it goes away...any suggestions?

I personally have not noticed any "flutter" in the game mode. Are you noticing it in moving scenes or in general, including still images? The game mode does not have any motion enhancements enabled (which is for many preferred to avoid the soap opera effect), so I wonder if what you perceive as flutter is just motion without motion enhancement?
post #754 of 1125
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Originally Posted by LeftAnswer View Post

I have just recently purchased the LC-60LE640u for $900 at Best Buy (through a price match to Fry's) and I am very happy with it. I originally bought the LC-60LE600u but ended up returning it in favor of this model mainly because they ended up being the same price. I will say that the 640u is superior to the 600u. Like many others, I was fooled into thinking that the 600u was a 640u without smart apps, and a few connections, but I was very wrong. I can't be sure that the panel really is different, but I can say that the software/hardware that drives it is extremely different. I was already aware at the time of purchasing the 600u that it lacked advanced picture controls, but I thought that I would be okay with that, again I was wrong. I had the opportunity to have both side by side plugged into my computer displaying identical screens.

Picture Brightness:
The 600u was much much darker than the 640u and much of the black detail was lost (something that I noticed before buying the 640u). No setting on the 600u was able to correct the darkness and bring out the black detail. Raising the brightness setting on the 600u just made the blacks grey, but no extra detail was brought out which was confirmed using calibration patterns. The only way I was able to correct for the darkness was to raise the brightness in Windows which seemed to correct the problem though this solution would only work for my PC connection, so I would have been out of luck for my Wii and Xbox connections.

Colors:
The 600u actually seemed to have more accurate colors out of the box than the 640u which made faces too red out of the box. Unlike the 600u though, the 640u gave ample amount of color adjustment controls to fix this issue (though I still haven't dialed the colors in to my liking yet, but the capability to do so is there).

Clouding Issues:
In my case both TVs had significant clouding and back-light bleeding problems, with the 640u being slightly worse in my particular case. (See the thread at http://www.avsforum.com/t/1453606/sharp-lc-60le640u-clouding )

Dark Red Issues:
Dark scenes dimly lit by a red-ish or orange-ish light (such as by candlelight), the 640u tends to over-exaggerate the dark reds whereas the 600u did not. An example scene where this happens is in MI:Ghost Protocol, there is a scene when they are on an airplane (just before India scene) where a chain mail suit is floating above a magnet in the foreground. On the 600u, the chain mail suit appeared grey with a very slight amount of red, but in the 640u, the suit appeared quite red in some parts (for comparison, my calibrated NEC IPS monitors displayed something in between the two). I tried playing around with the picture settings, but I was unable to reduce the amount of red in the picture. Overall, the issue is very minor and may not really be an issue at all if it is really supposed to look like that. I do not know whether this is only my TV or it applies to all 640u's, can someone please chime in on this.

Dark Yellow Issues:
On my 640u, when displaying a color test pattern, very dark yellows tend to turn red. This condition did not occur on the 600u. Again, I do not know if this is unique to my specific TV or not, can anybody comment on this?

Overall:
Overall the 640u is a superior TV and even with the issues I would still recommend this TV. I would not however recommend the 600u as the darkness issue is just too big of an issue. I would like to hear if anyone else is (or better yet is not) experiencing if the clouding, dark red, or dark yellow problems as I would consider exchanging my TV for the same model if it resolves any of these issues.

I wouldn't be concerned by the factory preset colors necessarily, as out of the box all TV's are usually far from accurate and need calibration. Unless of course you somehow have a really odd set with extremely/out of ordinary off colors. What matters is how good of a picture quality you can achieve with calibration, which as you said is only possible on 640U and not at all on 600U, making the 640U far superior. The clouding is not a big issue on 640U either in my opinion, if you use right settings without bumping brightness too high etc. Try a decent set of settings first and evaluate your PQ then... Good luck smile.gif
post #755 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Z-Mad View Post

I personally have not noticed any "flutter" in the game mode. Are you noticing it in moving scenes or in general, including still images? The game mode does not have any motion enhancements enabled (which is for many preferred to avoid the soap opera effect), so I wonder if what you perceive as flutter is just motion without motion enhancement?


It's mostly apparent when I use the menu guide to flip though channels and on non HD channels...very subtle shaking of picture.. Wonder if it has something to do with the DNR setting. It's not necessarily a huge deal as I watch mostly HD, it's just something I noticed and goes away switching the mode.
post #756 of 1125
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Originally Posted by LeftAnswer View Post

I have just recently purchased the LC-60LE640u for $900 at Best Buy (through a price match to Fry's) and I am very happy with it. I originally bought the LC-60LE600u but ended up returning it in favor of this model mainly because they ended up being the same price. I will say that the 640u is superior to the 600u. Like many others, I was fooled into thinking that the 600u was a 640u without smart apps, and a few connections, but I was very wrong. I can't be sure that the panel really is different, but I can say that the software/hardware that drives it is extremely different. I was already aware at the time of purchasing the 600u that it lacked advanced picture controls, but I thought that I would be okay with that, again I was wrong. I had the opportunity to have both side by side plugged into my computer displaying identical screens.

Picture Brightness:
The 600u was much much darker than the 640u and much of the black detail was lost (something that I noticed before buying the 640u). No setting on the 600u was able to correct the darkness and bring out the black detail. Raising the brightness setting on the 600u just made the blacks grey, but no extra detail was brought out which was confirmed using calibration patterns. The only way I was able to correct for the darkness was to raise the brightness in Windows which seemed to correct the problem though this solution would only work for my PC connection, so I would have been out of luck for my Wii and Xbox connections.

Colors:
The 600u actually seemed to have more accurate colors out of the box than the 640u which made faces too red out of the box. Unlike the 600u though, the 640u gave ample amount of color adjustment controls to fix this issue (though I still haven't dialed the colors in to my liking yet, but the capability to do so is there).

Clouding Issues:
In my case both TVs had significant clouding and back-light bleeding problems, with the 640u being slightly worse in my particular case. (See the thread at http://www.avsforum.com/t/1453606/sharp-lc-60le640u-clouding )

Dark Red Issues:
Dark scenes dimly lit by a red-ish or orange-ish light (such as by candlelight), the 640u tends to over-exaggerate the dark reds whereas the 600u did not. An example scene where this happens is in MI:Ghost Protocol, there is a scene when they are on an airplane (just before India scene) where a chain mail suit is floating above a magnet in the foreground. On the 600u, the chain mail suit appeared grey with a very slight amount of red, but in the 640u, the suit appeared quite red in some parts (for comparison, my calibrated NEC IPS monitors displayed something in between the two). I tried playing around with the picture settings, but I was unable to reduce the amount of red in the picture. Overall, the issue is very minor and may not really be an issue at all if it is really supposed to look like that. I do not know whether this is only my TV or it applies to all 640u's, can someone please chime in on this.

Dark Yellow Issues:
On my 640u, when displaying a color test pattern, very dark yellows tend to turn red. This condition did not occur on the 600u. Again, I do not know if this is unique to my specific TV or not, can anybody comment on this?

Overall:
Overall the 640u is a superior TV and even with the issues I would still recommend this TV. I would not however recommend the 600u as the darkness issue is just too big of an issue. I would like to hear if anyone else is (or better yet is not) experiencing if the clouding, dark red, or dark yellow problems as I would consider exchanging my TV for the same model if it resolves any of these issues.


I currently hav . My 600u boxed up ready for return when hhvregg opens up in another hour or so. I experienced the same black issue you detailed. I first noticed it playing my xbox 360, crisis 2 to be exact. There is a brightness option in the game that says "adjust brightness until image in the box is slightly visible" well the image never showed up regardless of how high I turned up the brightness or contrast. Screen just turned gray. Also the motion blur is pretty bad and reading this thread has me to believe the 640u doesn't suffer from it as bad as the 600u. The over reddish colors can possibly be fixed with the color cms system on the 640u. I won't know until I pick my set up today
post #757 of 1125
Update to my post earlier. Swapped the 600u for the 640u and picture quality is night and day. Black levels are better so far. I can actually see the logo in the brightness adjustment box on crysis 2 for xbox 360. So far motion blur is non existent like it was before. Well worth the extra $300
post #758 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Oldgregg99 View Post

It's mostly apparent when I use the menu guide to flip though channels and on non HD channels...very subtle shaking of picture.. Wonder if it has something to do with the DNR setting. It's not necessarily a huge deal as I watch mostly HD, it's just something I noticed and goes away switching the mode.

Hmm, can't say that I have personally noticed anything myself. I believe any channel whether HD or not looks stable without shaking of flutter on my set. Maybe your eyes are more sensitive than mine in picking it up, or maybe there is a slight set variance... Maybe someone else can comment if they have seen anything like that on their sets?
post #759 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Z-Mad View Post

Hmm, can't say that I have personally noticed anything myself. I believe any channel whether HD or not looks stable without shaking of flutter on my set. Maybe your eyes are more sensitive than mine in picking it up, or maybe there is a slight set variance... Maybe someone else can comment if they have seen anything like that on their sets?

I haven't seen this on my new set yet. Running your settings.
post #760 of 1125
Just got this TV. I noticed a small break in the black edge mask around the TV if you look directly down into its lower edge. You can see a break of light, just above the P of the Sharp logo. Anyone else have this?
post #761 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Oldgregg99 View Post

It's mostly apparent when I use the menu guide to flip though channels and on non HD channels...very subtle shaking of picture.. Wonder if it has something to do with the DNR setting. It's not necessarily a huge deal as I watch mostly HD, it's just something I noticed and goes away switching the mode.

Never seen that happen......knocks on wood!
post #762 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Bill McNeal View Post

Just got this TV. I noticed a small break in the black edge mask around the TV if you look directly down into its lower edge. You can see a break of light, just above the P of the Sharp logo. Anyone else have this?

Nope, don't see anything like that on my set. Looks perfectly uniform all along the edges. Are you saying that there is a darker spot above the Sharp logo? Since it's an edge-lit LED TV, if you have one of the LED diodes not working, you would see a break in light uniformity at that spot. Not sure if that's what you're describing. If you can post a picture of it, that might help... Either way, if it is noticeable and affects the uniformity of your picture in that area, I would call it a defect and return it for a new set... Good luck!
post #763 of 1125
Thanks to everyone contributing to this thread. I bought my 52le640 a few months ago for $799 and I'm really pleased with it coming from a 34" Sony tube i bought in '05ish? Although I'm still having audio sync issues, this picture can't be beat with Z-Mad's settings (ty sir) though I bumped the sharpness to +2 as I like a crisper picture. I also raised the color temp to "middle" for a hockey game I watched this evening, brightening up the ice surface as well as whites in general. But as far as every day viewing, Z-Mad's settings are the way to go.

@Oldgregg89 - no flutter or vibration in game mode on my set, maybe you enjoy a little SOE 120 low?
post #764 of 1125
Thanks to all who commented and contacted me regarding the settings. As I stated before, I am more than happy to share these settings at least as a good starting point, and I'm glad they ended up working out for apparently quite a few people. Everyone's feedback has helped me improve some aspects of the PQ, for example the brightness, which I have now achieved with Backlight +3, Contrast +32, Brightens -1, for that extra pop especially during daytime viewing.

Thanks smile.gif
post #765 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Monte71 View Post

Thanks to everyone contributing to this thread. I bought my 52le640 a few months ago for $799 and I'm really pleased with it coming from a 34" Sony tube i bought in '05ish? Although I'm still having audio sync issues, this picture can't be beat with Z-Mad's settings (ty sir) though I bumped the sharpness to +2 as I like a crisper picture. I also raised the color temp to "middle" for a hockey game I watched this evening, brightening up the ice surface as well as whites in general. But as far as every day viewing, Z-Mad's settings are the way to go.

@Oldgregg89 - no flutter or vibration in game mode on my set, maybe you enjoy a little SOE 120 low?

Ya it's odd that it does that, it has nothing to do with Z-Mads settings, I'm thinking the lack of some sort of SOE is giving it the flutter. luckily it's not noticeable on HD channels.
post #766 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Z-Mad View Post

Thanks to all who commented and contacted me regarding the settings. As I stated before, I am more than happy to share these settings at least as a good starting point, and I'm glad they ended up working out for apparently quite a few people. Everyone's feedback has helped me improve some aspects of the PQ, for example the brightness, which I have now achieved with Backlight +3, Contrast +32, Brightens -1, for that extra pop especially during daytime viewing.

Thanks smile.gif[/quote

Thank you again zmad!!
post #767 of 1125
Just got the LC-52LE640U from an open box deal at Best Buy.

Decent picture but I must say that the sound on this unit is very substandard. This is the my fourth LCD TV and compared to the others, the sound is very flat.
post #768 of 1125
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Originally Posted by haqattaq View Post

Just got the LC-52LE640U from an open box deal at Best Buy.

Decent picture but I must say that the sound on this unit is very substandard. This is the my fourth LCD TV and compared to the others, the sound is very flat.

That was the first thing I noticed too was the tv's flat sound. I would highly recommend external speakers, but in the meantime go to audio setting in menu and turn on surround, bass enhancer, and clear voice- that will help. I have my tv wall mounted and it helped turning OFF the wall mount audio setting.
post #769 of 1125
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Originally Posted by haqattaq View Post

Just got the LC-52LE640U from an open box deal at Best Buy.

Decent picture but I must say that the sound on this unit is very substandard. This is the my fourth LCD TV and compared to the others, the sound is very flat.

Sure, even the top of the line TV's will have a rather flat sound (flat TV pretty much equals flat sound). Some do a slightly better job than others, I agree, but overall if you want to have a decent sound on any TV these days, you'll have to at least get yourself a sound-bar or a similar solution. Luckily there are quite decent sound-bars out there for not too much money if you're not looking to spend much on a sound system... I have never even heard the speakers on my 640U, since I had a sounbar lined up for it before I even opened the box biggrin.gif
post #770 of 1125
On my 60 inch 640U I do see some clouding on a dark screen but not all the time. It's not noticeable during programs. Since I'm still under 30 day return should I be worried and exchange or is this clouding normal with edge back lights??
post #771 of 1125
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Originally Posted by dee zee View Post

On my 60 inch 640U I do see some clouding on a dark screen but not all the time. It's not noticeable during programs. Since I'm still under 30 day return should I be worried and exchange or is this clouding normal with edge back lights??

On my third set so I don't think it's going anywhere if u exchange it. After reading numerous reviews. It's common on this set to some degree. Mine isn't that bad and doesn't bother me as I can o ly see it if the screen is completely black and who watches a completely black screen? Once a movie or game is not u won't notice it
post #772 of 1125
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Originally Posted by dee zee View Post

On my 60 inch 640U I do see some clouding on a dark screen but not all the time. It's not noticeable during programs. Since I'm still under 30 day return should I be worried and exchange or is this clouding normal with edge back lights??

Some level of clouding is unfortunately indeed "normal" and inherent especially to edge lit LED's, but even to back-lit ones too. The TV's that handle this best are LED's with local dimming, but that is a feature reserved only for the top of the line models. Even then, the screen uniformity, any level of blooming artifacts, or the depth of the blacks simply cannot match the Plasma, which is why the best picture on the market is currently still on Plasma TV's. If it wasn't for image retention vulnerability of Plasma sets (when gaming, or constantly watching the same channel with a logo), I would not even get an LED set. Sharp's Elite is the only LED TV that gets close to Plasma (with full array local dimming, tho not perfect color accuracy), but comes at a "perverse" price in my opinion, as the cheapest set starts at $4,500!

Anyway, I still do not notice much of clouding at all on my 640U and think it is as good in this aspect as an LED without local dimming can get. For example, even bright logos on a perfectly dark background do not bloom on my set. I may notice a little bit of "shine" in really extremely bright scenes, but not to the point that it really distracts. Good settings are however important, as having the brightness, backlight and contrast set too high will enhance the perception of clouding and screen uniformity issues as well (since 640U does NOT have the greatest uniformity, but again this is somewhat inherent to the technology and manageable with decent settings). I believe this is what you are referring to (screen uniformity issue in some areas without content running), but this is not really a defect and all of 640U sets have some of that. I do not notice it much with the settings I use though. Which picture mode and settings of contrast, and backlight do you use?

I wouldn't run back to the store to return it immediately, as any LED TV you get in this price range will most likely have some level of blooming and screen uniformity issues and will not be "perfect". You may want to try adjusting some settings and seeing if you get more comfortable that way with your viewing experience. Otherwise if you don't use it much for gaming, plasma will get you much better PQ without those issues, or you may have to upgrade to a more expensive LED model with local dimming...

Hope this is helpful smile.gif
post #773 of 1125
Leroy Lee and Z-Mad, yes, your responses are very helpful, thanks. That's what I suspected as far as some clouding. I'm using the CNET settings they posted last year and PQ looks good and black levels 99% of the time look great. I'm still tinkering with different settings and will try yours Z-Mad to see how it looks.
post #774 of 1125
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Originally Posted by dee zee View Post

Leroy Lee and Z-Mad, yes, your responses are very helpful, thanks. That's what I suspected as far as some clouding. I'm using the CNET settings they posted last year and PQ looks good and black levels 99% of the time look great. I'm still tinkering with different settings and will try yours Z-Mad to see how it looks.

Zmads settings are actually pretty good on my set. I have my brightness a tad lower to offset some of the clouding and my back light a little higher.

I still prefer my 60 inch Sammy which I moved to my bedroom as it is a plasma and pq is superior but not by so much that the 640u is horrible. The 640u looks Damn good especially for the price and with Zmads settings, it's better than any other lcd I compared it to when I was shopping around
post #775 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Z-Mad View Post

Some level of clouding is unfortunately indeed "normal" and inherent especially to edge lit LED's, but even to back-lit ones too. The TV's that handle this best are LED's with local dimming, but that is a feature reserved only for the top of the line models. Even then, the screen uniformity, any level of blooming artifacts, or the depth of the blacks simply cannot match the Plasma, which is why the best picture on the market is currently still on Plasma TV's. If it wasn't for image retention vulnerability of Plasma sets (when gaming, or constantly watching the same channel with a logo), I would not even get an LED set. Sharp's Elite is the only LED TV that gets close to Plasma (with full array local dimming, tho not perfect color accuracy), but comes at a "perverse" price in my opinion, as the cheapest set starts at $4,500!

Anyway, I still do not notice much of clouding at all on my 640U and think it is as good in this aspect as an LED without local dimming can get. For example, even bright logos on a perfectly dark background do not bloom on my set. I may notice a little bit of "shine" in really extremely bright scenes, but not to the point that it really distracts. Good settings are however important, as having the brightness, backlight and contrast set too high will enhance the perception of clouding and screen uniformity issues as well (since 640U does NOT have the greatest uniformity, but again this is somewhat inherent to the technology and manageable with decent settings). I believe this is what you are referring to (screen uniformity issue in some areas without content running), but this is not really a defect and all of 640U sets have some of that. I do not notice it much with the settings I use though. Which picture mode and settings of contrast, and backlight do you use?

I wouldn't run back to the store to return it immediately, as any LED TV you get in this price range will most likely have some level of blooming and screen uniformity issues and will not be "perfect". You may want to try adjusting some settings and seeing if you get more comfortable that way with your viewing experience. Otherwise if you don't use it much for gaming, plasma will get you much better PQ without those issues, or you may have to upgrade to a more expensive LED model with local dimming...

Hope this is helpful smile.gif
Do you have any pics of your calibrated set? I am considering the LE640U and forgoing 3D all together. Since I have to replace my HX929 I have been checking out my best options on a budget of between $1,000-1,200.
post #776 of 1125
So, I was playing with a LC-60LE600U and LC-70LE600U at Costco and Best Buy. I noticed something interesting. If you use dot-by-dot option, there is a very tiny thin line of black (about 2 pixels or so) on the left side of the screen. It's really not obvious at all.

When I was at Best Buy, I got them to hook a laptop to the TV, set it to dot-by-dot and 1920x1080. Well, guess what, it is dot-by-dot displayed perfectly, except everything is shifted to the right by a couple of pixels (show a tiny thin black vertically line on the left) and the the screen is cropped off by a couple of pixels. Again, it's not obvious unless you are paying close attention and have your face right up staring at the screen. It is like this:

Dot-by-Dot
Displayed with no overscan/underscan
Every dot is matched to a pixel per computer output
Using X.Y, coordinate, the entire image is shifted by two pixels to the right (2,0).

It's is still dot by dot just everything is moved to the right by two pixels. Kind of weird, but after trying it at both Best Buy and Costco, and both LC-60LE600U and LC-70LE600U, it seems like it is by design to be like this.

Can someone confirm this? Again, you have to look extremely closely and only appears in dot-by-dot using true 1080p resolution with no over/underscan.
post #777 of 1125
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Originally Posted by whoisthat View Post

So, I was playing with a LC-60LE600U and LC-70LE600U at Costco and Best Buy. I noticed something interesting. If you use dot-by-dot option, there is a very tiny thin line of black (about 2 pixels or so) on the left side of the screen. It's really not obvious at all.

When I was at Best Buy, I got them to hook a laptop to the TV, set it to dot-by-dot and 1920x1080. Well, guess what, it is dot-by-dot displayed perfectly, except everything is shifted to the right by a couple of pixels (show a tiny thin black vertically line on the left) and the the screen is cropped off by a couple of pixels. Again, it's not obvious unless you are paying close attention and have your face right up staring at the screen. It is like this:

Dot-by-Dot
Displayed with no overscan/underscan
Every dot is matched to a pixel per computer output
Using X.Y, coordinate, the entire image is shifted by two pixels to the right (2,0).

It's is still dot by dot just everything is moved to the right by two pixels. Kind of weird, but after trying it at both Best Buy and Costco, and both LC-60LE600U and LC-70LE600U, it seems like it is by design to be like this.

Can someone confirm this? Again, you have to look extremely closely and only appears in dot-by-dot using true 1080p resolution with no over/underscan.

I should add that this happens with any source as long as dot-by-dot is selected and using HDMI.
post #778 of 1125
Well found the LC-70LE640U at Wally world for 700 under original price. Very pleased just wanted to thank silverfox1 who posted some cal settings on page 12. Stunningly good picture for a sub 1600 dollar 70" smart LED back lite TV. Only changes I made from Silverfox1 settings was leave Digital Noise Reduction:ON, and Film Mode: Advanced Mode +7.
post #779 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Z-Mad View Post

Nope, don't see anything like that on my set. Looks perfectly uniform all along the edges. Are you saying that there is a darker spot above the Sharp logo? Since it's an edge-lit LED TV, if you have one of the LED diodes not working, you would see a break in light uniformity at that spot. Not sure if that's what you're describing. If you can post a picture of it, that might help... Either way, if it is noticeable and affects the uniformity of your picture in that area, I would call it a defect and return it for a new set... Good luck!

Its a break in the solid black line at the edge. It looks like a stuck pixel but the remaning black pixels are black always. It's above the P in the Sharp logo at the base and only visible looking from top down. Not sure how to attach an image file else I'd post a photo.
post #780 of 1125
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Originally Posted by Bill McNeal View Post

Its a break in the solid black line at the edge. It looks like a stuck pixel but the remaning black pixels are black always. It's above the P in the Sharp logo at the base and only visible looking from top down. Not sure how to attach an image file else I'd post a photo.

Mine doesn't do that but then again I don't think it would bother me as I wouldn't be looking at the TV from the top down. Is it visible from looking at it straight on?
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