Official Samsung UNxxES8000 Owner's Thread - Page 338

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

I sit no more than 8' away from my 60" I love it too. It stinks that your UVerse compresses so much. You may want to check into other options for broadcast TV. I can't remember, what is your Sharpness, Digital Noise Filer and MPEG Noise Filer settings set to?

Originally Posted by chrisjmccord 

Well I set all my Standard and Movie Modes to your settings. If any of these 3 you mentioned are outside of that part of the menu, its probably still factory default. What should they be set at for this TV and UVerse? Also, I'm looking into DirecTV here in OKC, weighing the good and bad of it in our state, with issues of signal loss during our many weather events here.

Originally Posted by chrisjmccord 

Well I set all my Standard and Movie Modes to your settings. If any of these 3 you mentioned are outside of that part of the menu, its probably still factory default. What should they be set at for this TV and UVerse? Also, I'm looking into DirecTV here in OKC, weighing the good and bad of it in our state, with issues of signal loss during our many weather events here.

Originally Posted by chrisjmccord 

So are you UNxxES8000 owners ok with the viewing angle deficiencies of LED TV, and just accepting of it and don't really use the TV from angles so it doesn't matter?
I've had my 60" a few weeks now and overall very happy, but the angle views are just horrid, washed out color, pixelated and blocky, partially due to the UVerse signal I guess, but a well known issue with LED technology is that it doesn't view well from angles.:

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

I could be wrong but I think we've seen that here a couple times and it was hardware related and needed service. If I remember correctly, they came to the house, swapped some boards and all was good. I also seem to remember it will start to happen more often, so the sooner you call, the better off you'll be. If I'm remembering this wrong, someone will correct me. Good luck and sorry to hear that.
By the way, yes the sound on thin TVs is terrible.

Originally Posted by sabesh 

I'm reading that Timescapes is also mastered in 4K.

Originally Posted by thebignewt 

I don't think my TV's picture gets horrible from angled viewing. In fact I had 10 people over to watch football on Sunday and I sat in various locations and I though the picture looked pretty good everywhere. Maybe football is different.

Originally Posted by skirope 

Thanks! Would anyone know what board/s were changed so I can direct my service tech in the right direction before they do too much prodding?

Thanks,

Originally Posted by Ricoflashback 

Quick question on 4K Bluray. Will it do anything for our Sammy sets? I have a 4K/24fps Bluray player but I thought you had to have a 4K device (TV) to display.

Do we get any benefits from a 4K Bluray mastered disc?

Originally Posted by Ricoflashback 

Quick question on 4K Bluray. Will it do anything for our Sammy sets? I have a 4K/24fps Bluray player but I thought you had to have a 4K device (TV) to display.

Do we get any benefits from a 4K Bluray mastered disc?

Originally Posted by Ricoflashback 

Quick question on 4K Bluray. Will it do anything for our Sammy sets? I have a 4K/24fps Bluray player but I thought you had to have a 4K device (TV) to display.

Do we get any benefits from a 4K Bluray mastered disc?

Originally Posted by chrisjmccord 

Well I set all my Standard and Movie Modes to your settings. If any of these 3 you mentioned are outside of that part of the menu, its probably still factory default. What should they be set at for this TV and UVerse? Also, I'm looking into DirecTV here in OKC, weighing the good and bad of it in our state, with issues of signal loss during our many weather events here.

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

You should actually but here is why. The better the cameras and the better the mastering process, the better the final product. You're not watching it in 4K obviously but it should show.

Just as a weird example, you could have an SD picture shot with great cameras and mastered at a high bit rate look way better than a highly compressed, low bit rate 1080p image shot with crappy equipment.

Under the Sea looks so good because it was shot on actual IMAX cameras - even though you're not watching it in IMAX.

Originally Posted by 7011jrs 

Add me to the list of DirecTV "advocates". I have been using DirecTV for years now, and could not be happier. I came from cable, with my initial reasoning being availability of HD channels, and sports packages on DirecTV that I could not acquire via cable (NFL Sunday Ticket, for example). My fear was the signal loss issue. Although I do not deal with snow here in Central Florida, we do have a lot of weather - frequent rainstorms, clouds, lighting, etc. This is pretty much a daily occurrence for certain seasons/periods of the year. A few specific notes to that end...

• My signal loss is minimum. During the worst storms, I will lose my signal, usually for a few minutes. In all, I maybe lose my signal for 15-20 minutes per year. In that DirecTV offers a standard definition version of their HD channels, you can sometimes switch to the SD version during an outage and get a signal - this is rare, but it has worked.
• Picture Quality - Excellent picture quality, superior to the local cable broadcasts. My brother's D8000 is connected to cable and where it is often great, there are certain channels that are not as crisp as the DirecTV equivalent.
• Content - Can't beat it. Not only can you signup for whatever channels or packages you want, you get a handful of 3d channels, you get HD versions of pretty much every channel. A good example of this is the Big 10 Network. During college football season, they may have 4 or 5 games broadcast, and they use alternate channels so that you're not seeing 1 game on the Big Ten Network, you have access to all 4 or 5, and all in High Definition. This isn't the case with cable - at least it wasn't very recently.
• Promotions/Offers - They'll give you the farm when you initially signup. As RFB said, negotiate with them. They are also extremely responsive when you have an issue or want to change your programming - they will often throw in credits, discounted channels, free channels, and so on to keep you happy. I NEVER got this from my cable provider.

Good luck with whichever way you go - you have a great TV and you should be enjoying crisp, clean high quality content on such a beautiful set!

EDIT: I should say that DirecTV is not a "value" alternative in that you pay for what you get. At least in my area, it is a comparable but certainly not a less expensive option vs. other providers. Also, you just don't get comparable bundles with DirecTV if you are looking at phone, internet, and TV in a "bundled" package. I still use cable for my high speed internet.

Originally Posted by Ricoflashback 

Chris - some alternatives for you with Directv - which has been a fabulous service for me. (And yes, I would like the $50 referral if Garnoch has not claimed it already. Just kidding...)

1. Weather issues - - if your "Dish" will not be easily accessible, look at getting a "Dish Heater." They really work. In the four years I have had mine - - I have not had to go up on the roof once - - even with the heavy snows in Colorado. It's not that expensive and it saves a lot of shaky trips on a roof. Install it on the back side of the dish - it works the best that way.

2. With their new "Genie" HD DVR - - you only need one to service your entire household. Very convenient. And...you'll notice a huge difference in the audio besides a pristine picture and three or four 3D channels. Plus - - negotiate, negotiate, negotiate - locally as well as calling Directv yourself. Drive your best deal - if that's the route you go. Bring up your cable company or UVerse. Tell them that they are offering incentives to stay with them - - so what can they do for you!

3. OTA backup - - one of the best things I did was to have an antenna placed in the roof (inside) of my ranch home. Even if the satellite is down for some reason (weather - though it hasn't happened that often since I got the Dish heater) - you should have access to tons of stations in HDTV including your local stations and sports. And, your stored content - recorded shows will always be available.

Best - Rico

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

Okay, this means you have both noise filters off (because I don't see them doing anything for me). In your case, play around with them and see if they help.

As for DirecTV, I love it. Great picture and I maybe lose service due to weather for 10 minutes a year - I didn't even lose it during Hurricane Sandy here in NJ until the power went out. I lose it much less than I used to with cable. Wet trees make a bigger difference than clouds, so you just need a good line of sight. My father had trouble having a good line of sight with DirecTV when they changed their satellites, so he moved Dish Network. He hated it for a couple years compared to DirecTV because his DVRs kept failing (3 or 4 of them) and the menus and navigation weren't as nice. But a few months ago, he upgraded to their Hopper system (DirecTV has something similar) with Sling and he now loved it. I will admit that Dish is finally on track with this new system. I still prefer DirecTV, but I now wouldn't mind moving to Dish.

Edit:
Damn I see Rico beat me to the referral haha. He can take a little of that money and send me some yum yum.

Edit 2:
One place where DirecTV beats Dish, when it comes to Samsung TVs, is that both are RVU capable. Here's what that means in regards to the Whole Home Genie with DirecTV... Say you put the DVR in your bedroom, then you put a small Genie client box in the den. Now you want to hook up the living room Samsung... You don't need any box at all, none. You will control the DVR in the den from the small client, and you'll control the DVR on the Samsung right through the Samsung - with full DirecTV menus. Just tell them you want the HR34 whole home system (up to 4 rooms) and that one of your rooms has an RVU capable Samsung TV.

Edit 3:
Oh and have them throw in a $99 Nomad, maybe for free. This will allow DirecTV to convert all your shows to iOS compatible files (in your case) and automatically send whatever you want to your devices and Macs.

Originally Posted by chrisjmccord 

Thanks for this feedback Rico. I'll be stopping into a retail store or two this weekend to explore the DirecTV option more deeper. I'll see if I can get your and Garnoch a referral bonus or split.
How much do you think a decent OTA antenna is and would a DirecTV installer put that in the attic for me and run the line down to my TV?

Originally Posted by 7011jrs 

Add me to the list of DirecTV "advocates". I have been using DirecTV for years now, and could not be happier. I came from cable, with my initial reasoning being availability of HD channels, and sports packages on DirecTV that I could not acquire via cable (NFL Sunday Ticket, for example). My fear was the signal loss issue. Although I do not deal with snow here in Central Florida, we do have a lot of weather - frequent rainstorms, clouds, lighting, etc. This is pretty much a daily occurrence for certain seasons/periods of the year. A few specific notes to that end...

• My signal loss is minimum. During the worst storms, I will lose my signal, usually for a few minutes. In all, I maybe lose my signal for 15-20 minutes per year. In that DirecTV offers a standard definition version of their HD channels, you can sometimes switch to the SD version during an outage and get a signal - this is rare, but it has worked.
• Picture Quality - Excellent picture quality, superior to the local cable broadcasts. My brother's D8000 is connected to cable and where it is often great, there are certain channels that are not as crisp as the DirecTV equivalent.
• Content - Can't beat it. Not only can you signup for whatever channels or packages you want, you get a handful of 3d channels, you get HD versions of pretty much every channel. A good example of this is the Big 10 Network. During college football season, they may have 4 or 5 games broadcast, and they use alternate channels so that you're not seeing 1 game on the Big Ten Network, you have access to all 4 or 5, and all in High Definition. This isn't the case with cable - at least it wasn't very recently.
• Promotions/Offers - They'll give you the farm when you initially signup. As RFB said, negotiate with them. They are also extremely responsive when you have an issue or want to change your programming - they will often throw in credits, discounted channels, free channels, and so on to keep you happy. I NEVER got this from my cable provider.

Good luck with whichever way you go - you have a great TV and you should be enjoying crisp, clean high quality content on such a beautiful set!

EDIT: I should say that DirecTV is not a "value" alternative in that you pay for what you get. At least in my area, it is a comparable but certainly not a less expensive option vs. other providers. Also, you just don't get comparable bundles with DirecTV if you are looking at phone, internet, and TV in a "bundled" package. I still use cable for my high speed internet.

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

Ha thanks, but if you don't know someone you can give the referral to, just PM Rico because I think you would need either his name or probably his account number.

I don't think the DirecTV guy would install an antenna, but being they are freelance, maybe he'd do it for some extra cash. I'm not sure though.

Originally Posted by chrisjmccord 

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Right now I only have two TVs in my house, the bedroom 32" and the living room 60" so I guess the Genie would go in the LR. If I add TVs to the boys rooms in the future do I need more cable installed or is it just adding the simple small client boxes to each TV that comes up? I will make them sell me hard on the DirecTV and throw in the nomad and whatever else they can. I know I'll get the heavy discounts to become a new customer, and I'm not looking for bundles.

Originally Posted by chrisjmccord 

Thanks Garnoch, I'll play with the filters and see tonight when I get home. I don't know if I ever did or not so I'll experiment.
Right now I only have two TVs in my house, the bedroom 32" and the living room 60" so I guess the Genie would go in the LR. If I add TVs to the boys rooms in the future do I need more cable installed or is it just adding the simple small client boxes to each TV that comes up? I will make them sell me hard on the DirecTV and throw in the nomad and whatever else they can. I know I'll get the heavy discounts to become a new customer, and I'm not looking for bundles, as I'm probably going to break up my current AT&T bundle with this and then even moving to Cox as my ISP due to the way faster speeds I'll get there. AT&T will have my cell and maybe home phone.

Originally Posted by chrisjmccord 

Ok, cool, something to ask when/if I go with DTV and he comes out to install. Will they use the current coax cable that is run to every room in my house, or install and run their own cables? Depends on the installer I guess?

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

You don't need a box with the Samsung, so if I was starting from scratch, I'd put the DVR in the bedroom and no box in the LR at all on the RVU capable ES. I would also have them wire the two extra rooms when they are there because you get it for free on initial setup (4 rooms total). Check on this part, but you'd also then get the Genie clients for the boy's rooms, but I believe you could then have them turned off so you're not paying the extra minimal charge for the extra clients until you are ready to turn them back on for the boys. This way though, you'd have everything there and wired for free - ready to go.

As for bundles, keep in mind that DirecTV has a deal with AT&T for bundles so you can have just one bill through DirecTV and save $15/mo.
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/packages/internet?footernavtype=-1&lpos=header&CMP=KNC%7C8%7C68718669%7C99689049%7CBroad&siclientid=7492&sessguid=0b650de7-ce9b-4777-b7ea-91555e7a569f&userguid=0b650de7-ce9b-4777-b7ea-91555e7a569f&permguid=0b650de7-ce9b-4777-b7ea-91555e7a569f&sissr=1

Originally Posted by thebignewt 

Let me know how you make out in the negotiations Chris. I've had cable forever, but I'm interested in DirectTV after hearing comments here about the quality, and the 3D channels interest me some too. My cable bill is about $143/month including about $50 for internet and $16 for HBO. Some friends said the NFL package costs a ton, but you get the Red Zone free. I like football a lot (Packers).

Originally Posted by markrubin 

I have both DirecTV HD and Comcast HD and prefer DirecTV:: not sure claims that cable is more reliable in bad weather is legitimate:

after hurricane Sandy, my house was heavily damaged and I had to evacuate.

when I returned, the DirecTV slim line dish had withstood hurricane force winds and my service worked as soon as power was restored.

Comcast cable was out for a month

my opinion only...