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post #10231 of 16126
Lol! Yes! I've heard they are a lot heavier than our ES which would be a huge pain exchanging them out.
post #10232 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

Thanks man...

I just want to say thanks for all the info on Direct TV and Dish. You guys would make great sales men. I am now considering getting rid of Comcast HD and going with Direct TV thanks to you guys smile.gif

I have Comcast for Internet and DirecTV for HDTV programming.

A Comcast door-to-door salesman came buy and was mesmerized by HD Net Movies.

He even said the picture "sang", having no knowledge of HD Net Movies he quickly gave up.

DirecTV is far from perfect, but Comcast/ Xfinity is HD-Lite in comparison.
post #10233 of 16126
Thanks man.. This is going to be my next project smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Just make sure you check out the 950 thread because banding and pixel issues seems to be about the same there - though I think uniformity seems better on the 950. 3D is close to the ES but it's not quite the same. This is just what I gather from trying to keep up with that thread. It's also much heavier which can be good or bad. The question is, would it be worth the extra money. I really don't know. If you do, please let us know what you think here too, or point us to any posts you might have. Thanks, man - good luck.

Definitely another reason why I am hesitant about the HX950, although I didn't see any posts in regards to banding being as severe on the HX950, but you are right that it seems to be an issue with them as well, Right now I'm leaning against it because I can't seem to find anywhere that actually has demo unit on display to test the 3D.
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

That's bad if you have to keep loading them back into the truck lol:Dl.

LOL. One guy actually posted that hauling them back and forth for 4 exchanges was tedious in the HX950 thread.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

LOL. One guy actually posted that hauling them back and forth for 4 exchanges was tedious in the HX950 thread.

Sounds like you could provide a part time job for someone who is willing to transport your TV's back and forth....probably a part time gig, but short contract - six months? Just kidding.

I don't know how much of a stickler you are on "banding" - - my 65" has very slight banding but I can see it on occasional shots. That's the key, for me, since I did have a previous Sammy 65" that had horrific banding, so I have a pretty good reference point on bad banding, in general. Otherwise, fabulous picture - - great for sports, CNN, movies and especially 3D - - and I never thought I'd be a fan of 3D but this TV changed my opinion. So much that I'm no longer using 3D Bluray rental (good company, slow on shipment and availability of current 3D content) and have budgeted one 3D Movie a month for purchase (usually via Amazon Prime) to treat our household. I actually got my first 3D from Blockbuster this week - Ultimate Wave Tahiti - 3D. I just purchased Dredd 3D that is this months selection.

Maybe the new TV's (2013's) will have better panels. But I can share this - - since I began looking for a TV last summer and also researching other technologies for the past month or so - - this is what I've found - - no TV or technology is perfect. I know that's a general statement - - but I believe it's true. It's what you can handle, standards wise, that drives your decision. Example:

(1) Plasmas - I know a lot of people love em. Panel uniformity - true colors. I couldn't get over the dullness of the picture (at least to me, subjective) and the lack of pop with 3D. Since I've never owned one, I can't comment on the buzzing, hissing, heat generation or IR but I do see these comments on other threads.

(2) LCD/LED - Great picture when you get a good panel - - but some folks see it as too harsh, off angle viewing issues and of course the banding issues.

(3) Projectors - Probably my next move in a couple of years - - I can't see paying $9K for a 75" LCD/LED panel and I don't want to cut out the drywall to get it down to my man cave in the basement. And the prospect of a 45 X 80 - 16.9 or 45 X 106 - 2.35 to 1 Cinemascope picture is enticing (not that I've done any research...)

But boy, even on the new projectors like the Panny PT-AE8000 with 3D - - there are always forum members complaining about hot spots, divergence, 3D crosstalk - - it runs the gamut.

So here's hoping whatever you get works for you! And then you can truly enjoy your new TV and not have to deal with all the returns since I really think that Lady Luck has not smiled on your TV buying journey.
post #10237 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Sounds like you could provide a part time job for someone who is willing to transport your TV's back and forth....probably a part time gig, but short contract - six months? Just kidding.

I don't know how much of a stickler you are on "banding" - - my 65" has very slight banding but I can see it on occasional shots. That's the key, for me, since I did have a previous Sammy 65" that had horrific banding, so I have a pretty good reference point on bad banding, in general. Otherwise, fabulous picture - - great for sports, CNN, movies and especially 3D - - and I never thought I'd be a fan of 3D but this TV changed my opinion. So much that I'm no longer using 3D Bluray rental (good company, slow on shipment and availability of current 3D content) and have budgeted one 3D Movie a month for purchase (usually via Amazon Prime) to treat our household. I actually got my first 3D from Blockbuster this week - Ultimate Wave Tahiti - 3D. I just purchased Dredd 3D that is this months selection.

Maybe the new TV's (2013's) will have better panels. But I can share this - - since I began looking for a TV last summer and also researching other technologies for the past month or so - - this is what I've found - - no TV or technology is perfect. I know that's a general statement - - but I believe it's true. It's what you can handle, standards wise, that drives your decision. Example:

(1) Plasmas - I know a lot of people love em. Panel uniformity - true colors. I couldn't get over the dullness of the picture (at least to me, subjective) and the lack of pop with 3D. Since I've never owned one, I can't comment on the buzzing, hissing, heat generation or IR but I do see these comments on other threads.

(2) LCD/LED - Great picture when you get a good panel - - but some folks see it as too harsh, off angle viewing issues and of course the banding issues.

(3) Projectors - Probably my next move in a couple of years - - I can't see paying $9K for a 75" LCD/LED panel and I don't want to cut out the drywall to get it down to my man cave in the basement. And the prospect of a 45 X 80 - 16.9 or 45 X 106 - 2.35 to 1 Cinemascope picture is enticing (not that I've done any research...)

But boy, even on the new projectors like the Panny PT-AE8000 with 3D - - there are always forum members complaining about hot spots, divergence, 3D crosstalk - - it runs the gamut.

So here's hoping whatever you get works for you! And then you can truly enjoy your new TV and not have to deal with all the returns since I really think that Lady Luck has not smiled on your TV buying journey.

I really liked Ultimate Wave Tahiti.... Definitely one of the best IMAX 3d movies to date. Born to be Wild is another good one if you are into the IMAX movies and as already mentioned previously by others Under the Sea is a must own.

3D is the second most important aspect to any TV I buy/keep which is why it was so disappointing to realize the 60es8000 just doesn't even come close to how good the 65es8000 is with 3D. I wish everyone with a 60 can see what you and I have been able to see 3D wise on the 65 so they can see how big a difference it really is.... and it is a huge difference.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Definitely another reason why I am hesitant about the HX950, although I didn't see any posts in regards to banding being as severe on the HX950, but you are right that it seems to be an issue with them as well, Right now I'm leaning against it because I can't seem to find anywhere that actually has demo unit on display to test the 3D.

I had a 55" HX950 for a short period of time. I thought it was a good TV overall (albeit overpriced for what you get). The 2D performance is totally stellar, with a super sharp, crisp image right out of the box. That's a good thing, too, because I found the lack of a CMS to be a huge oversight on Sony's part. You are basically locked in to choosing between a handful of predetermined settings that you can tweak (but never as much as I thought you should be able to). No matter what I tried, flesh tones were always slightly off (a little on the brownish side). Also, the menu system is anything but straight-forward and you sometimes have to drill down three or four levels to make the simplest of picture adjustments. Apps implementation is also hit or miss. As far as I was able to tell, the only way to access Netflix, for instance, was by a single dedicated button on the (especially cheap looking and flimsy for such an expensive TV) remote control. When it comes to 3D, that's a mixed bag, too. First off, you need to know that your Panasonic and Samsung glasses are NOT compatible and will not synch with the 950 (despite the fact that Sony markets the TV as being Full HD 3D compatible). I found that tilting my head even the slightest bit resulted in crosstalk. The only glasses that worked moderately well are the PlayStation 3D glasses, which, in fact, are considerably better than the ones Sony claims are designed specifically for the 950 and that cost twice as much. Oh yeah, the 950 comes with no glasses, either. Getting back to crosstalk, for someone as sensitive to it as you, you will positively hate what this TV does with movie titles, subtitles, and credits in 3D. Without fail, you will encounter serious crosstalk each and every time...not just some times like you found on the Samsung. And, the larger the text, the more pronounced the crosstalk.

Like I say, the 950 is an absolutely fantastic 2D performer, and if that's what you are buying the TV for, you'll be more than happy with it. If, on the other hand, you're looking for an all-around excellent 2D/3D/Smart TV, then I don't think this is it. As always YMMV. If you're in a position to try one, then by all means do, and put it through its paces and see what you think.
post #10239 of 16126
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Definitely another reason why I am hesitant about the HX950, although I didn't see any posts in regards to banding being as severe on the HX950, but you are right that it seems to be an issue with them as well, Right now I'm leaning against it because I can't seem to find anywhere that actually has demo unit on display to test the 3D.
Do you have a ABC Warehouse close by? I went in my local store and they had a 55" on display with quite a few 55"/65" models on hand in back.
post #10240 of 16126
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Originally Posted by pitchman View Post

I had a 55" HX950 for a short period of time. I thought it was a good TV overall (albeit overpriced for what you get). The 2D performance is totally stellar, with a super sharp, crisp image right out of the box. That's a good thing, too, because I found the lack of a CMS to be a huge oversight on Sony's part. You are basically locked in to choosing between a handful of predetermined settings that you can tweak (but never as much as I thought you should be able to). No matter what I tried, flesh tones were always slightly off (a little on the brownish side). Also, the menu system is anything but straight-forward and you sometimes have to drill down three or four levels to make the simplest of picture adjustments. Apps implementation is also hit or miss. As far as I was able to tell, the only way to access Netflix, for instance, was by a single dedicated button on the (especially cheap looking and flimsy for such an expensive TV) remote control. When it comes to 3D, that's a mixed bag, too. First off, you need to know that your Panasonic and Samsung glasses are NOT compatible and will not synch with the 950 (despite the fact that Sony markets the TV as being Full HD 3D compatible). I found that tilting my head even the slightest bit resulted in crosstalk. The only glasses that worked moderately well are the PlayStation 3D glasses, which, in fact, are considerably better than the ones Sony claims are designed specifically for the 950 and that cost twice as much. Oh yeah, the 950 comes with no glasses, either. Getting back to crosstalk, for someone as sensitive to it as you, you will positively hate what this TV does with movie titles, subtitles, and credits in 3D. Without fail, you will encounter serious crosstalk each and every time...not just some times like you found on the Samsung. And, the larger the text, the more pronounced the crosstalk.

Like I say, the 950 is an absolutely fantastic 2D performer, and if that's what you are buying the TV for, you'll be more than happy with it. If, on the other hand, you're looking for an all-around excellent 2D/3D/Smart TV, then I don't think this is it. As always YMMV. If you're in a position to try one, then by all means do, and put it through its paces and see what you think.

Which ES8000 did you wind up getting? Curious to see if you have the 60 and are comparing the HX950 3D to the 60 or the 65. I don't think anything will rival the 65es8000 3d wise, but my previous posts indicate my feelings about the 60. It is stil possible I just received 3 bad 60s in a row 3d wise as it is still hard for me to believe it was reviewed as one of the best 3d performers yet seemed to be the worst of the 3 models I have had do far.
post #10241 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I think it's only three 3D channels right now.
n3D which is for specials in 3D once in a while
Cine3D which is 3D rental movies
ESPN 3D
Yes these are real 3D channels, so it looks way better than fake 3D. Watching ESPN 3D is pretty cool.

Agree, watching ESPN/3D is awesome. I just wish they'd carry something live that's worth watching. Old sporting events are fine for a while, but before long it's like watching the HD Demo loop that ran for months on PBS when HD was just beginning to catch on.

Fake 3D, aka 2D/3D simulation is kind of a yawner for me.

As for the people having issues with banding on their 65's (like me) I find that using your (Garnoch's) Standard settings have all but eliminated it for me. For example, in the currently running Commercial for the Carnival Cruise Line (The couple in the car being attacked by the bear & lion) I see absolutely no banding *at all*

Another observation is that I see absolutely no visible banding in any 4:3 content - it's just not there. Where I can sometimes see it is in 16 x 9 content with a blue background, visible whether the background is bright blue or pastel, but with the contrast in the mid-to-upper 90s someone not looking for it is apt not to notice.

For what it's worth, mine is an MS01 display (I don't know what that means, but that's the # on the box and on the back of the set.)
post #10242 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Why are you posting Samsung info in our DirecTV thread?? smile.gif

Blade, is this new news like with an update or were you not using eco before, or like me was your eco sensor simply not working for a few weeks?

So, since there is no retailer in town right now, I didn't get to check out DirecTV, I called to see what kind of a package they'd give me, and now I'm scheduled to have it installed in two weeks, lol.

"SUCKA"...

I think I got a pretty good deal. I picked the Premiere package, and I'm getting it for $60 first 3 months, then $105/month for the rest of the first year. I'm currently paying $108 a month for UVerse and I'm not getting all the movie channels. So thats already a good deal there. HBO/CINEMAX/SHOWTIME/STARZ etc...I currently only get HBO and SHOWTIME for 3 months free with my U300 package.

The sales guy did throw the typical salesman talk out there, saying Dish and AT&T only had 720 signals, and they were the only ones with 1080, bla bla bla. I was a "well qualified" customer so I got the Nomad and Cinema packages free, and basic install free, not sure I'd need "custom" install do I?

The 2nd year is discounted as well, to $124/month...which didn't sound so good, but I guess the prices you see online don't include the $20 HD fee. I am getting a $10 discount for paperless billing and auto draft payments. And some $30 discount/rebate for new customers, maybe thats why its only $60 for first 3 months.

What else did I not cover? My wife is afraid of change, but I told her about the 5 HD recordings at same time, the Genie etc, she was open to it. I'm more excited about the better signal, I just hope I can see it and its worth the hassle of breaking up my AT&T bundle that I've been happy with for a few years now.
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Preshoot View Post

Agree, watching ESPN/3D is awesome. I just wish they'd carry something live that's worth watching. Old sporting events are fine for a while, but before long it's like watching the HD Demo loop that ran for months on PBS when HD was just beginning to catch on.

Fake 3D, aka 2D/3D simulation is kind of a yawner for me.

As for the people having issues with banding on their 65's (like me) I find that using your (Garnoch's) Standard settings have all but eliminated it for me. For example, in the currently running Commercial for the Carnival Cruise Line (The couple in the car being attacked by the bear & lion) I see absolutely no banding *at all*

Another observation is that I see absolutely no visible banding in any 4:3 content - it's just not there. Where I can sometimes see it is in 16 x 9 content with a blue background, visible whether the background is bright blue or pastel, but with the contrast in the mid-to-upper 90s someone not looking for it is apt not to notice.

For what it's worth, mine is an MS01 display (I don't know what that means, but that's the # on the box and on the back of the set.)

How noticeable was your banding on panning shots. That is where I found it most annoying.
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I definitely want to hear what you think in 2 weeks once its installed, since I'm heading down that path myself. I'm looking to switch more for the signal as well. Everyone keeps saying that Comcast HD has more Compression than D.T.
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I have't heard of this one here, Cap'n. That sucks. I think I understand but let me just ask - are you connected via HDMI directly to the TV? Have you tried other cables and other inputs? Do you normally use the internal speakers?

My sound problem is solved. Found a defective HDMI cable (Cheap Chinese variety) - I normally use only BELDEN cables from Blue Jeans Cable for my HDMI, but was one short and grabbed a cheapie that Comcast furnished with an HD box. It worked for a while.

As a retired FCC-licensed communications engineer, I do not "subscribe" to all the marketing hype that goes along with "Monster" cables, (a fool & his money are soon parted) but do believe there is a worthwhile difference in buying a quality name brand HDMI cable (i.e., Belden, USA made) without going to the ridiculous extremes that some do.
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

I definitely want to hear what you think in 2 weeks once its installed, since I'm heading down that path myself. I'm looking to switch more for the signal as well. Everyone keeps saying that Comcast HD has more Compression than D.T.

Will do. I'm not feeling total buyers remorse yet, so thats good. A bit excited to see how it turns out.
post #10247 of 16126
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Originally Posted by chrisjmccord View Post

So, since there is no retailer in town right now, I didn't get to check out DirecTV, I called to see what kind of a package they'd give me, and now I'm scheduled to have it installed in two weeks, lol.

"SUCKA"...

I think I got a pretty good deal. I picked the Premiere package, and I'm getting it for $60 first 3 months, then $105/month for the rest of the first year. I'm currently paying $108 a month for UVerse and I'm not getting all the movie channels. So thats already a good deal there. HBO/CINEMAX/SHOWTIME/STARZ etc...I currently only get HBO and SHOWTIME for 3 months free with my U300 package.

The sales guy did throw the typical salesman talk out there, saying Dish and AT&T only had 720 signals, and they were the only ones with 1080, bla bla bla. I was a "well qualified" customer so I got the Nomad and Cinema packages free, and basic install free, not sure I'd need "custom" install do I?

The 2nd year is discounted as well, to $124/month...which didn't sound so good, but I guess the prices you see online don't include the $20 HD fee. I am getting a $10 discount for paperless billing and auto draft payments. And some $30 discount/rebate for new customers, maybe thats why its only $60 for first 3 months.

What else did I not cover? My wife is afraid of change, but I told her about the 5 HD recordings at same time, the Genie etc, she was open to it. I'm more excited about the better signal, I just hope I can see it and its worth the hassle of breaking up my AT&T bundle that I've been happy with for a few years now.

Congrats, man! Enjoy and can't wait to hear your thoughts moving from AT&T. I'm actually surprised you got the Nomad too so that is AWESOME!
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

How noticeable was your banding on panning shots. That is where I found it most annoying.

Panning shots, as in sports, i.e., football? If it's there, it really didn't catch my eye. I'll try to watch a little more closely - maybe check out some basketball.
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Preshoot View Post

My sound problem is solved. Found a defective HDMI cable (Cheap Chinese variety) - I normally use only BELDEN cables from Blue Jeans Cable for my HDMI, but was one short and grabbed a cheapie that Comcast furnished with an HD box. It worked for a while.

As a retired FCC-licensed communications engineer, I do not "subscribe" to all the marketing hype that goes along with "Monster" cables, (a fool & his money are soon parted) but do believe there is a worthwhile difference in buying a quality name brand HDMI cable (i.e., Belden, USA made) without going to the ridiculous extremes that some do.

Thanks for the update. I agree totally on cables. There are crap cables, but the signal is digital, it's either going to work or not. Spending the money on Monster cables is crazy.
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Originally Posted by chrisjmccord View Post

So, since there is no retailer in town right now, I didn't get to check out DirecTV, I called to see what kind of a package they'd give me, and now I'm scheduled to have it installed in two weeks, lol.

"SUCKA"...

I think I got a pretty good deal. I picked the Premiere package, and I'm getting it for $60 first 3 months, then $105/month for the rest of the first year. I'm currently paying $108 a month for UVerse and I'm not getting all the movie channels. So thats already a good deal there. HBO/CINEMAX/SHOWTIME/STARZ etc...I currently only get HBO and SHOWTIME for 3 months free with my U300 package.

The sales guy did throw the typical salesman talk out there, saying Dish and AT&T only had 720 signals, and they were the only ones with 1080, bla bla bla. I was a "well qualified" customer so I got the Nomad and Cinema packages free, and basic install free, not sure I'd need "custom" install do I?

...snip.

We conducted a little "test" about 6 years ago with one of the Mits 65" (WD65831) "It's the mirrors" RP displays. With a nominal 10' viewing distance and an A/B switch toggling between identical content, no one could consistently tell 720P from 1080i
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Preshoot View Post

We conducted a little "test" about 6 years ago with one of the Mits 65" (WD65831) "It's the mirrors" RP displays. With a nominal 10' viewing distance and an A/B switch toggling between identical content, no one could consistently tell 720P from 1080i

Agreed. And if you get close enough, I'm in the group of people that would say 720 probably edges out 1080i.
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Preshoot View Post

We conducted a little "test" about 6 years ago with one of the Mits 65" (WD65831) "It's the mirrors" RP displays. With a nominal 10' viewing distance and an A/B switch toggling between identical content, no one could consistently tell 720P from 1080i

Yeah, this is why I wished I could see it in person before I have it installed. I might just be wasting time, even though change is good after a while.
I did want to change my ISP from AT&T to Cox, so why not try out a new TV Service as well?
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Thanks for the update. I agree totally on cables. There are crap cables, but the signal is digital, it's either going to work or not. Spending the money on Monster cables is crazy.

Where you really get the payback on good versus crap HDMI cables is on the longer lengths, i.e., 15' and greater. Still no justification for "Monster" brand, but the top end Belden (typically half the price of Monster) is well worth the investment.

.....oxygen-free cables, my arse smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Agreed. And if you get close enough, I'm in the group of people that would say 720 probably edges out 1080i.

lol...so what are you saying here? Don't start confusing me again. AT&T and Dish's 720p signal is going to edge out a 1080i DirecTV signal on my nice new LED 1080p TV?
post #10255 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Preshoot View Post

Where you really get the payback on good versus crap HDMI cables is on the longer lengths, i.e., 15' and greater. Still no justification for "Monster" brand, but the top end Belden (typically half the price of Monster) is well worth the investment.

.....oxygen-free cables, my arse smile.gif

Yes, Like I'm sure is the same with your dealer, my long monoprice cables we much more expensive and thick.
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Originally Posted by chrisjmccord View Post

lol...so what are you saying here? Don't start confusing me again. AT&T and Dish's 720p signal is going to edge out a 1080i DirecTV signal on my nice new LED 1080p TV?

Ha no no, Dish I think looks like DirecTV, but none of that comes down to 1080i or 720p, it comes down to how much the provider is compressing the signal before sending it to you - which is the problem you're having. I'm pretty sure Dish is both 1080i and 720p just like DirecTV is though. See when the conversion to HD happened, some stations decided to go 720p and some decided to go 1080i. DirecTV re-compresses those signals and send them out without changing the resolution. Unfortunately, a lot of providers (yours) compresses the signal too much and perhaps with older technology. First you have a Master (tape) then the broadcast standard is MPEG2 so it gets compressed on the way out (this is what antennas pick up), then the providers get the signal and compress it more to fit as many channels as they can in their limited pipeline. Just a few years ago, DirecTV changed the way they compress for higher quality and launched additional satellites just to handle all the HD channels.
Edited by Garnoch - 1/16/13 at 6:20pm
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Originally Posted by chrisjmccord View Post

Yeah, this is why I wished I could see it in person before I have it installed. I might just be wasting time, even though change is good after a while.
I did want to change my ISP from AT&T to Cox, so why not try out a new TV Service as well?

Seems like a good enough reason to me:)

The store that conducted that 720/1080 test recently did another, this time a motion test watching a baseball game at 120Hz vs 240 Hz... again, no discernible difference to the naked eye at normal viewing distances. Both displays were well masked-off with black sheets so you could not see the bezel and thus identify the model. They were both 1-yr old Sony's (2011 models), one was an XBR and the other an entry level Bravia. Both were 46" displays that had been calibrated.
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Originally Posted by chrisjmccord View Post

lol...so what are you saying here? Don't start confusing me again. AT&T and Dish's 720p signal is going to edge out a 1080i DirecTV signal on my nice new LED 1080p TV?

No, its dependent on the TV's ability to de-interlace 1080i.

For good ESPN 720p signals...maybe., Normal Fox or ABC 720p - not even close.

At 46-65 inches (TV sizes) you can clearly see the difference between 1080i and 720p viewing from 6ft or closer.

1080i still images, or with minimum motion looks way better.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57524867-221/1080i-and-1080p-are-the-same-resolution/

Its 2,073,600 pixels, same as 1080p.
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Has anyone ever ordered a panel from Amazon? How did they ship it? Also, did the box come already opened like BBs stupid policy where they unbox prior to delivery to check if screen is cracked or broken? If I do wind up ordering another panel, perhaps I need to try someplace other than BB home delivery. Last but not least, in my case of being a dead pixel magnet, what is their exchange return policy on TVs. Of they pick it up or do you need to ship it back to them?
post #10260 of 16126
I buy all my TVs on Amazon. If the set is defective or if your not happy, they will send you a replacement so long as its the same model, and then pick up the bad set when they deliver the new one. They have the best return policy as well. Never had an issue and I've bought many TVs in the past 3 years from them.
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