Official Samsung UNxxES8000 Owner's Thread - Page 344

Originally Posted by 1000 

I posted a while back in relation to the vertical banding on my 65".

I can report that Samsung agreed to give me a refund on the panel after sending a technician out. The tech could see the banding immediately on the inbuilt "test picture" and didn't even want to see it on other sources to confirm that it was a distraction.

I have a 60" ES8000 to replace it and it's a near-perfect panel.

I cannot see any banding in normal use, unlike the 65" where it was noticable 20% of the time in normal viewing (especially panning shots etc).

I know this is only repeating what others have said but it reconfirms the quality of the 60" over the 65" model.

A couple of other subtle differences; the anti-glare screen on the 60" is somewhat different to the 65" model, it's hard to describe it precisely but to me the 60" screen coating looks a bit "smoky" whereas the 65" screen coating was super-clear and more reflective. The bezel edges on the 60" are smaller. Apart from that, overall PQ is just the same (less the banding). I did notice that game mode on the 60" (HDMI signal from the XBOX360) set the panel's HDMI black level to LOW, whereas the 65" detected it and set the black level to "NORMAL", apart from that one quirk the panels are practically identical.

I'm very happy with the 60" model.

1000

Originally Posted by cmay91472 

Garnosh may be able to recall particular scenes on the Avengers. I watched that also on the 65 and the entire movie was as sharp and detailed as the 2d version. I only mention avengers because Garnosh mentioned people commented on hazy backgrounds similar to what I described recently in this thread a few months ago.

On the 60, for instance in Kung Fu Panda 2 which was the most blatant example I ran across, the opening scene after the intro where Po is stuffing his face while the others cheer on, all the characters in the foreground are razor sharp. Many of the walls and background items are hazy out of focused and sometimes double imaged. This may not seem unusual to the casual viewer since everything in the foreground is focused, but having recently watched the exact same thing on the 65es8000 the night before i knew that it was not supposed to look like that. On the 65, everything that was hazy and ghosting in the background was in focus and sharp. This happened in a handful of movies I tested, but only noticed it here and there and didn't think anything of it until I saw what it did to Kung Fu Panda 2. Another scene where it is really bad and out of focus is in the cave with the dragon statue shot. Master shi fu is in focus but everything else is a mess with 3d errors like mist which is supposed to be in the background misplaced everywhere and the dragon hazy. It's hard to describe unless you see it.

Also to the other poster, it has nothing to do with make of model of the glasses as both the Panny and Sammy glasses were fine on the 65 and both displayed the issues with the 60.

Other movies I noticed minor examples included monsters vs aliens inside the alien space craft and Frankenweenie inside the classroom.

I don't think anything was defective, I honestly think the sharp made panel is not capable of rendering 3d as well as the banding panel on the 65.

Originally Posted by chrisjmccord 

Really? Brand new account, one post, just for this? lol...

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

Thanks for the update and congrats, 1000! After the 3D talk the past couple days, can you comment in that after you've tried it out?

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

Thanks for the update and congrats, 1000! After the 3D talk the past couple days, can you comment in that after you've tried it out?

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

Hey at least I'm fitting Samsung ES8000 into my text for fun but this is my most off topic post ever (sorry Jack)...
This is perhaps the best tech article ever written. So funny because it's real.
http://lookrobot.co.uk/2013/01/14/the-panasonic-toughpad-press-conference/

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

Hey at least I'm fitting Samsung ES8000 into my text for fun but this is my most off topic post ever (sorry Jack)...
This is perhaps the best tech article ever written. So funny because it's real.
http://lookrobot.co.uk/2013/01/14/the-panasonic-toughpad-press-conference/

Originally Posted by 7011jrs 

A while back, several of us were discussing different options for Active 3D glasses to work with our sets. I purchased, and finally tested a new pair from amazon, with the link below. These are a major improvement over the sets included with the original TV purchase. Having tested this pair, I will now purchase a couple more sets to keep on hand, and leave the originals to be used by the kids.

I can't say there is any discernible difference in the 3d picture quality directly, but they are much better at blocking out peripheral lighting/visuals, and they are much more comfortable in comparison. Also a plus, is that the connector for charging the glasses is a standard Micro USB port.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YWCQLO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

Originally Posted by Catt99 

I saw that earlier today from a blog link and agree - very impressive reportage. Photo descriptions are excellent. And while I finally bought a tablet before Christmas, I fear I will sometime soon regret not waiting for the TOUGHPAD even if I might not be capable of containing its power.

For On-Topic content: curious about cmay's reports - I am one of the regular (though infrequent) posters with neither a 65" or 60" -- mine is the 55" ES8000. I remember the brief discussion a few months back about 3D background blur but repeatedly tested the content I had available which was called out for examples and couldn't see what others reported seeing. Still don't. Really interesting if in fact the different panels (Sharp vs. Samsung) resulted in significant performance differences, 3D and banding, among sets offered under the same brand, product family, and marketing the same way.

But regardless, its clear that bringing a TOUGHPAD into my home might present risks I am unwilling to accept.

Originally Posted by cmay91472 

That was awesome. As a former business reporter/editor, I often felt the same way sitting through corporate media presentations.

Originally Posted by bplewis24 



So, this problem just surfaced for me a couple weeks ago.

One night while watching TV, the frame froze, and then the TV just showed random vertical color blocks. Then it would shut off and turn back on. I couldn't turn it off with the remote, and it didn't respond to any other functions. It just kept going in this power on-off cycle until I unplugged the power cord. I hoped that would be the end of it, but tonight it went into that cycle 3 different times over the course of a couple hours. I see other people have experienced this and it's not even isolated to this TV model. Is there any consensus resolution or do I have to call in for warranty repair?

Also, what is the most current firmware?

Originally Posted by sterlingma1 

Contact Samsung Service. See my post #8478. Sounds like similar problem.

Originally Posted by Ricoflashback 

Just got my bias lighting strip with dimmer "on/off" switch from Inspired LED.

Total cost - $47.50 for the 36" strip, power supply and dimmer "on/off" combined switch. I was not sure that a 36" strip would be enough lights for my 65" Sammy.

Works great! Very bright lights - - glad I got the dimmer. Four settings - second setting is bright enough for my man cave. Easy install - - well worth the investment.

Originally Posted by mickjcat 

Hey Guys,
I am seeing something in my Samsung 55 es8000 that is new.....I hope I can explain it.

I was watching Last Resort last night and what seemed be in the middle of the screen, running horizontal from left to right, a band that was about 7 or 8 inches, perfectly symmetrical, that was there when the scene was dark. I am using Garnoch's settings on Standard. (With minor adjustments).

Putting it more simply, I hope, a band running across the screen, it was darker than the surrounding dark scene.

I just recieved in the mail the Disney WOW calibration disc, so I plan to recalibrate to my own particular TV.

Thanks for any answers you may have. I did try to find an example of this in Garnoch's idiots guide. and I couldn't....

Originally Posted by wthephasdin 

Can anyone comment on the screws and spacers I need for mounting? I'm using the Rocketfish Low-Profile wall mount that BB bundles with their mounting service. I suspect the last screws I used may have been too deep and torqued the frame of my TV when they were tightened down.

Originally Posted by Mavinwow 

Can you post some pictures of the set with the lights on as well as the behind the TV install? Thinking about adding some bias lighting. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Anthony5362 

For anyone interested in the 2013 lineup..

http://un65f8000.com/uploads/Samsug_2013_LED_Product_Guide.pdf

Great place, btw to buy a TV from if your in the New York area. Very knowledgable people there and the ones that do the shootout every year for everyone.

Originally Posted by Anthony5362 

Another member from here that's in the UK was just saying they received another FW update last week and mentioned that he feels it really improved the picture quality. It looks like they are pushing the updates to the folks in the UK before us, so maybe we have something to look forward to with our next update as far as picture quality goes..