Official Samsung UNxxES8000 Owner's Thread - Page 348

I just purchased a 55ES8000, I am upgrading from a 52B750. I have some 1080p60 content that I play from a home theater PC. The content stutters when I use AMP Custom with Blur at 10 and Judder at 3, but has no stuttering when I use AMP Clear. I have no such issues with the exact same content played on my 52B750 using Custom AMP settings. Could there be something wrong with my new 8000?

That's a known issue that everyone appears to have a problem with. Most everyone here uses "Clear" and there is no stutter. I noticed recently that the other settings get better as the TV sits, but I like the way the "Clear" setting looks over the others anyway, so... It's also been discussed whether or not the new Evo kit might fix this. It's possible that the TV simply isn't powerful enough to handle the other settings and the new processing and GPU power that the Evo kit will add could resolve the problem. No one knows for sure as the kit's not out yet. If I were you I'd set it on "Clear" and forget it.

Had someone on the AT&T forums address my complaints about my new LED TV and the AT&T UVerse picture quality, and here is what he said...

Not sure this is part of our 8000 series TVs or not, or if it really has to do with anything?

Samsung video about Evo kit at CES. They actually mention improved PQ in the video. Also some other "features" that are interesting that I haven't heard of until now. It's a short video clip if you're wanting to check it out:

http://samsungevolutionkit.com/specific-functionality-of-the-evolution-kit/#more-43

"Improved Picture Quality"
"Multi-person video chat"
"3D Gaming Graphics" (Samsung Apps I'm assuming)
"Enhanced Apps" (hmmmmm)

I'm even more interested now...
Edited by Jestered - 1/21/13 at 6:52pm

What they are saying is that the main setting is the Motion Plus setting, which you should have on "Clear". If I were to unbox my TV and only set the Motion Plus setting like they said, I'd hate the picture quality. Although you'll need to either have that setting off or on "Clear" so you don't get a stuttering picture, that has nothing to do with actual picture quality. Just ignore them.

So all of a sudden my TV has decided to turn itself on twice in one night? As you can imagine, pretty annoying. Does anybody know why this might be and if there is a solution?

I have motion control and voice control off.

Thanks

Ok cool, thanks. Hopefully that is all it is...time will tell.

Humm, well I'm still not familiar with this setting where is it located in the menu?

Under picture options - auto motion plus. I have AT&T and I am not experiencing a bad picture at all. Period. I even have my AMP set at Blur-0 and Judder-6 and it looks great. No studder.

Ok found it. Mine are set at the defaults 5 and 5. Well actually if I put it on clear those values are grayed out. My picture isn't horrid, in fact most anyone would sit in front of it and say its awesome HD cause it its not bad. I'm just ready for better.

Why would you want this off or clear and not standard or custom?

Which sets are those that keep having the on-off problem? 55,60,65? Which series? I haven't had this issue.

The picture quality is really good on mine. I'm hooked directly from the DVR to the set with a 6' Redmere HDMI. Input 2. How are you hooked up?

I'm going through a Denon AVR-2309CI, HDMI switching. Again, my picture is not "bad", and maybe I'm heading for a let down of the picture from DirecTV, but it was time for a change in everything. UVerse has had its time in my sun, but now thats all but gone.

Samsung is notorious for leaving issues like this unfixed. This is disappointing and I think it's a deal breaker for me. I will probably return it and stick with my 52B750 for a while more. It's really too bad, the panel in my 55ES8000 is better than my 52B750.

Are we sure that this stuttering issue is the TV and not the source? Though 99% of my viewing is on Sky HD I've never noticed stuttering on freeview, freesat or bluray.

I occasionally get stuttering, not that it bothers me much but none of the MP settings make it any better or worse, clear definitely gives me the slightest motion blur so I keep mine off

I completely agree with ArenaMan, this is a source issue. This tv is amazing and not the origin of the problem based on what I am reading. For Amp I use standard mostly and clear on occasion.

I have not had any studder I would consider excessive. Just every now and then.

I have had my AMP set at blur-0 and judder-6 from almost day one. I've experimented plenty and always go back.

This setting for my set seems to work really well. No SOE. Don't much care for that look.

The Motion Plus setting is what introduces the soap opera effect that most people don't like. It makes the video look fake or like you recorded it on a home camera. Some people like it because they say it looks more realistic, but it has absolutely nothing to do with picture quality. The problem with it is that it also introduces a stutter or what looks like frames are being skipped occasionally. If it actually worked without that problem then more people may use something other than the "Clear" setting. Either way it has nothing at all to do with the quality of the picture you're getting.

I can assure the rest of you that the stutter I get is from the Motion Plus setting and has nothing to do with the source. It seems most evident on fast moving stuff like football. I can watch a game on clear and not have any stutter at all. I can then rewind the game and switch it to smooth and immediately there's bad stutter. It's the same source, so it has nothing to do with that. As I mentioned before if I leave it on for awhile, the stutter seems to get better, but doesn't go away completely. It may be that most the sets suffer from this, but not all. Kind of like the banding issue that is most evident on the 65". It seems that it is pretty bad on most 65" sets, but not all. Mine is rarely visible on my 65".

That's odd that you don't get the SOE with those settings. If I remember correctly, the judder setting is what introduces the SOE and the other doesn't. Are you sure you don't have it set the other way around?

I'm correct. No SOE with those settings or studder. Fortunate I guess...

Took delivery on a Sony 65HX950, essentially ending my quest for a defect free ES8000.

So far so good. No dead pixels, no flashlighting (black levels rival the VT50 black levels), no DSE, one very faint thin vertical band in the center only visible on test slides.

3D is actually better than the 65ES8000..... Only because the level of crosstalk is essentially the same minus the noticeable vertical banding.

The Sony version of the Smart Hub is terrible and hard to navigate compared to the Samsung smart hub. Remote is terrible as well.

Similar to the 65VT50, Out of the box settings are really good when you turn off the noise reduction and other post processing settings.

Spent way more than I wanted to since I wanted to get a new receiver to replace my Yamaha rx3800, but that will have to wait to later in the year. But in the end, similar to Mo, glad I gave up as having a 65 inch screen again is nice... the difference in size is startling once you go back, not so noticeable when I downsized to the 60es8000, plus not being distracted by the vertical banding or occasional flashlighting is really nice.

I really did like the Es8000 as evident of making 7 exchanges in hopes of getting a good one. Hopefully they correct the vertical banding on the 65F8000 as I think that has really great potential offering a much more cost effective panel.

cmay, congrats on finding a good panel. now you can get on with your life