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post #10501 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

Owners in the UK are up to 2004.1 or something like that. We're only on 1046 now. So I meant it would be nice to get all the way up to that so we don't have to keep resetting every time we update

I suspect the versions will be different for pal anyways
post #10502 of 16126
I suspect that the UK is on an entirely different numbering system and 2004 is not 958 versions ahead of 1046.

That said, hopefully the Samsung Marketing and Business Development folks stop by to see what this 0.000001% of their market share has to say!
post #10503 of 16126
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Originally Posted by rckrz6 View Post

I suspect the versions will be different for pal anyways

I think they are very close to ours from what the member there had said before in this thread. There was a time where we were way ahead of them with FW updates and at that time there were quite a few members from there posting everyday here, then all of the sudden they all stopped and I just heard they are on 2004.2 which makes me think they are now 99% happy
post #10504 of 16126
Does anyone know if you use the blocking setting here, can whoever you block still read your posts, or do they get blocked also from reading your posts?
post #10505 of 16126
It will only block you from seeing what they write, they will still be able to see what you contribute.
post #10506 of 16126
just updated to 001046 firmware....

what does it actually do or fix?
post #10507 of 16126
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Originally Posted by rocketman9 View Post

It will only block you from seeing what they write, they will still be able to see what you contribute.

Wow RocketMan9, you sure know a lot for being such a new member here that just joined this month and has few posts rolleyes.gif
post #10508 of 16126
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Originally Posted by EndeaverouX View Post

just updated to 001046 firmware....

what does it actually do or fix?

Ha! Not sure yet and I hope Samsung finally puts their description in for these updates on their site rather than copy the description from the last update
post #10509 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

Ha! Not sure yet and I hope Samsung finally puts their description in for these updates on their site rather than copy the description from the last update

I agree with you...we need a description of what the firmware actually does...

I dont know if this feature was always there or not...but i just noticed today after the 001046 update....

I can now actually set a time to turn on the tv at anytime I wish...and also turn off at anytime...I get 3 different times for power on and power off...

I'm not talking bout a regular sleep timer...

is this new? or it was always there...but I like it nevertheless....
post #10510 of 16126
Resetting after an update: how does one reset the TV?

Never mind got it. Still stuttering.
Edited by sharkcohen - 1/22/13 at 8:39pm
post #10511 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

I agree.. The reason why I think it will get better with a new update is because when I use the "Smooth" setting on my D8000, its perfectly smooth with the SOE effect with no studder whatsoever, but when I use the smooth on this model, I get some studder.


Arenaman,
since your FW updates are way ahead of ours, did you notice that the stutter got any better with the newer updates? Can't remember if it was you or someone else that said before the updates it was worse, but now with the new updates its better, but still get a little studder?

I finally played with the settings and I understand now what its doing, I've seen this "motion" where the camera seems to pan in a certain way, that I kind of liked. I'd see it on other newer sets and thought it was just part of the newer technology, which is sounds like it is. I kind of like it on movies, not sports, but in movies its a neat looking "effect" kind of...?
post #10512 of 16126
Just updated to 1046. I'm watching Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows in Standard and the blacks do not seem as crushed. I checked a couple scenes by pausing and switching from Standard to Movie and playing it back. Incredibly vivid colors from Directv MAXwHD.
Edited by Ricoflashback - 1/22/13 at 9:30pm
post #10513 of 16126
I can't seem to find comfortable settings for watching side by side 3D on this tv. I have a couple movies in mkv sbs format, on a portable hard drive I have hooked up to the tv's usb slot. Fast moving scenes have an unacceptable amount of motion problems. Things get broken and blurry. It isn't as easy to see on blu rays. Does anyone know how to play mkv files with a better motion rate? Any computer programs or anythung? Any help would be much appreciated.
post #10514 of 16126
My tv did the same thing I was on 1041 and did the update to 1046 and it updated and shut down. When I turned it back on it still at 1041 with no updates found after checking again.
post #10515 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Just updated to 1046. I'm watching Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows in Standard and the blacks do not seem as crushed. I checked a couple scenes by pausing and switching from Standard to Movie and playing it back. Incredibly vivid colors from Directv MAXwHD.
Funny, I've never noticed any black crush on my ES8000. My previous VT50, different story.

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post #10516 of 16126
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Originally Posted by garyrh View Post

My tv did the same thing I was on 1041 and did the update to 1046 and it updated and shut down. When I turned it back on it still at 1041 with no updates found after checking again.

I figured out how to get the FW on your TV if this happens. Go back in like your going to update the FW again and click the "Alternative Software" it will then tell you that you have 1041 and ask if you want 1046 and then it will shut down and turn back on. Usually this Alternative setting is greyed out, so when I saw it wasn't today, I tried it and it worked.
post #10517 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Just updated to 1046. I'm watching Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows in Standard and the blacks do not seem as crushed. I checked a couple scenes by pausing and switching from Standard to Movie and playing it back. Incredibly vivid colors from Directv MAXwHD.

I just tried standard for the 1st time in a while and I think your right. The CE dimming seems to be less also. I didn't watch anything yet for a while to really know, but from the few minutes I checked, the standard setting looked a little better.
post #10518 of 16126
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Originally Posted by EndeaverouX View Post

I agree with you...we need a description of what the firmware actually does...

I dont know if this feature was always there or not...but i just noticed today after the 001046 update....

I can now actually set a time to turn on the tv at anytime I wish...and also turn off at anytime...I get 3 different times for power on and power off...

I'm not talking bout a regular sleep timer...

is this new? or it was always there...but I like it nevertheless....

Haha! No, its always been there. Its on most or all of their models I think. Yea, I agree it comes in handy sometimes
post #10519 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

I just tried standard for the 1st time in a while and I think your right. The CE dimming seems to be less also. I didn't watch anything yet for a while to really know, but from the few minutes I checked, the standard setting looked a little better.

Anthony - - I think your right about the CE dimming - it does seem to be less. I'll have to watch a couple more movies to tell for sure - - but it was quite evident on "Sherlock Holmes" last night as that movie has a lot of dark scenes. (Great soundtrack!)

I'll say this - - if you can get "Standard" to be consistent - - it is an incredible picture. I also have the "Movie" setting that I primarily use with Bluray - - with the only difference being Turboman123 "BT1886" Gamma (White Balance settings - 10p white balance: level 1 all +6, level 2 all +3, level 3 all +1).

What's funny is that after all the tinkering around with the settings from multiple sources found from this thread I am now back to somewhat "Default" settings:

AVR Processing - Marvell QDEO via Pioneer Elite SC65 (absolutely fantastic receiver - especially sound modes - - runs incredibly cool, bi-amped Paradigm Studio 60's V2 fronts with Orb Mod2 Satellites - 7.1 configuration with SL, SR, SBL, SBR)

Picture Mode: Standard
Backlight: 10
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 40
Sharpness: 35 (I know - everyone says it's too high but I've tinkered with it multiple times and even cross checked against the WOW disc. It works for me.)
Color: 50
Tint: 50/50

Everything in Advanced Settings set to "Off"
Color Space: Auto
White Balance - Default (25)
Gamma: Default (0)
Color Tone: Standard
Digital Noise Filter: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
AMP: Clear (I've tried them all - "Standard" would be my second choice. I liked "Smooth" but too many motion artifacts to use effectively.)
ECO Sensor: Off - even though I am in the man cave, and have controlled lighting conditions - - I like the Backlight at a constant "10"

I can say this - - the original "Default" settings on my Sammy 65" are not the same as they are now. Is it my eyes or the firmware updates?

Even if you have your set calibrated - - I believe that firmware updates can affect your PQ. Do I know that as an absolute truth? No, but it does make sense. Here is where we run into problems with Samsung not telling us what is in the firmware updates. PQ enhancement? O.K. - what does that mean?

At any rate - - fabulous picture with minimal vertical banding. I'm in the process of a minor remodel on my man cave and having the panel mounted on the wall so I can upgrade to the Paradigm Studio CC690 monster center. Then, in a year or so, I will get a projector for Cinemascope only - 2.35 or 2.40 to 1 screen, 38 X 90. I'll use the Sammy LCD/LED for most viewing (all sports & movies (including 3D) in 16:9) and have a retractable screen pulled down (or electric) over my panel - offset six inches from the wall, which will be for movies and anamorphic material.

When I watch movies in 2.35 to 1 on my Sammy set, I lose 8" of vertical picture - - which really means your watching a 25 1/2 by 59 1/2 screen. That's a lot of real estate. Plus - - since 3D is really not a consideration (I have the Sammy for that) - - the focus will be on getting a 2D projector with the very best blacks and shadow detail. Should be fun! (Hey, that's what it's all about !!!)
post #10520 of 16126
I agree Rico.. I've always used the movie mode, but now when I switch from standard to movie, the movie mode has a greenish tint. I really believe that FW updates improve the picture. Especially since this Micro dimming is based on software and not hardware in these models. I also think that when they do these updates, they calibrate the settings a little, which is always why after I update, I reset my picture settings to default first to check everything and I've noticed that after each update, the default settings are getting closer and closer to a better picture. Except for the sharpness being on 50..lol!
post #10521 of 16126
Garnoch, where you at man! You were just saying how we need a FW update the other day so we have something to talk about and settings to tweak all over again. And we got it! A very small update though, but atleast were getting them smile.gif
post #10522 of 16126
Does anyone here use the IR Blaster successfully and recommend it? If so, can you send out some tips with your configuration and how you set it up? Or refer me to an earlier post number if it's already been discussed.

It seems like it's got potential, but if the signal or the remote doesn't perform well then I would imagine it'd just become an annoyance. Any thoughts?
post #10523 of 16126
Not to get off topic here, but these 2013 TVs look very impressive

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/The-Three-Best-Looking-TVs-at-CES-2013.shtml
post #10524 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

Not to get off topic here, but these 2013 TVs look very impressive

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/The-Three-Best-Looking-TVs-at-CES-2013.shtml

Is that you Bolt? All these Plasmas! LOL.

What's with the stands? Am I the only one that likes traditional black - - nothing to reflect or interfere with the picture?

$12K for an OLED 55"? Are they out of their minds? That's why my next move is a projector. When you start getting over 65" - - it gets bulkier and more of a logistics nightmare. I am assuming that people think bigger is better. if not, I bet the prices of the 55" and below will really drop.
post #10525 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Is that you Bolt? All these Plasmas! LOL.

What's with the stands? Am I the only one that likes traditional black - - nothing to reflect or interfere with the picture?

$12K for an OLED 55"? Are they out of their minds? That's why my next move is a projector. When you start getting over 65" - - it gets bulkier and more of a logistics nightmare. I am assuming that people think bigger is better. if not, I bet the prices of the 55" and below will really drop.

Haha! Don't say that here. People may really believe that smile.gif I'm a Samsung dude though. Never owned one Panasonic.. Yet anyways..

I think Im more curious about plasma this year then I ever been because they are making these new models seem like they are as bright as a LED with the deepest black levels. I see more people that were at CES talk about these plasma than the new LEDs which has me very curious. Especially when you hear them say that they are "like" OLED TVs. But I'm more of a LED guy. I own way more LEDs than Plasmas. I do own 2 though and I love the ones I have. I think if you can have both. Its nice because you get the best of both worlds. Like you can use the LED for everyday viewing and gaming, and the Plasmas strictly for movies. Honestly though, if I had to choose one or the other, it would definitely be the LED because to me its just more practical than a plasma.

I would love to read more info on the new 2013 LED models, but eve time I see a new article, its all about these Plasmas and 4K..
Edited by Anthony5362 - 1/23/13 at 8:36am
post #10526 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Just updated to 1046. I'm watching Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows in Standard and the blacks do not seem as crushed. I checked a couple scenes by pausing and switching from Standard to Movie and playing it back. Incredibly vivid colors from Directv MAXwHD.

the best way to test it is with a bluray disc...its always the same perfect quality each time u play & you are gonna get the least amount of compression...blu rays have the best and crisp compression ratios than cable/sat tv sources.

cable/sat compress the hell out of HD, they are squeezzing and saving as much bandwidth as they can...the same goes for netflix, amazon, vudu, hulu, etc...

just a friendly tip when testing picture quality... biggrin.gif
post #10527 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

I completely agree with ArenaMan, this is a source issue. This tv is amazing and not the origin of the problem based on what I am reading. For Amp I use standard mostly and clear on occasion.

I will have to respectfully disagree on this to some extent. While source can definitely contribute to the issue, I get AMP stuttering even from blu-rays over HDMI on any setting other than clear. If the tv has a problem with 95% of cable tv signals, then maybe Samsung should be working on getting AMP to play nicer with these signals, instead of just blaming the source. After all, people don't want excuses - they just want it to work. AMP just doesn't work smoothly on any setting other than "clear" consistently. I've tried my FiOS on 720p and 1080i, and it doesn't make any difference. Some channels are definitely worse than others - for some reason a certain handful of channels are totally unwatchable due to severe stutter on any AMP setting other than clear. Most channels aren't that severe but still stutter enough for me not to use AMP in anything but "clear".

I keep hoping the new Evo kit will finally resolve this, since maybe the dual-core processor just can't keep up with AMP, but I'll need to hear confirmation that it completely solves it before I consider the upgrade. My girlfriend is very much against the idea of putting another dollar into this set, so AMP would have to be completely fixed for me to consider this upgrade. New smarthub menus and motion settings aren't going to cut it for us.
post #10528 of 16126
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Originally Posted by sharkcohen View Post

Samsung is notorious for leaving issues like this unfixed. This is disappointing and I think it's a deal breaker for me. I will probably return it and stick with my 52B750 for a while more. It's really too bad, the panel in my 55ES8000 is better than my 52B750.

I agree that they are notorious for ignoring certain issues. When we tried two 2011 LCD sets, they both had the same exact AMP stutter. So we didn't buy a 2011 LCD. When we bought the 2012 ES7500 we thought for sure it would have been resolved, but sure enough, AMP stutters the same way as the 2011 models. No improvement or change.
post #10529 of 16126
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Originally Posted by EndeaverouX View Post

the best way to test it is with a bluray disc...its always the same perfect quality each time u play & you are gonna get the least amount of compression...blu rays have the best and crisp compression ratios than cable/sat tv sources.

cable/sat compress the hell out of HD, they are squeezzing and saving as much bandwidth as they can...the same goes for netflix, amazon, vudu, hulu, etc...

just a friendly tip when testing picture quality... biggrin.gif

Thanks, understood - - but I use "Movie" mode for my Bluray. As you say - - least amount of compression and best picture source, by far.

I'll try "Standard" again on my Bluray - - maybe that will tell me if their is a noticeable difference in PQ. But I did notice the difference on my Directv signal. And I always keep the option of using "Movie" setting for Directv - - if the picture is too dark. Case by case basis - - preference is to have "Standard" all the time, if I can, but source material dictates how I implement "Movie" mode on Directv.

For Bluray, my experience has been that "Standard" mode is a little harsh and more crushing of blacks.

Good tip - - I'll try it on my next Bluray 2D disk (3D defaults to 3D mode.) By the way -- I received my 2nd 3D disk from Blockbuster - Piranha 3DD (I hope they don't close the store by me!) Only watched ten minutes but it looks like a classic "B" movie with lots of skin. Very poorly done and in good taste! ("B" movie standards.)
post #10530 of 16126
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

I will have to respectfully disagree on this to some extent. While source can definitely contribute to the issue, I get AMP stuttering even from blu-rays over HDMI on any setting other than clear. If the tv has a problem with 95% of cable tv signals, then maybe Samsung should be working on getting AMP to play nicer with these signals, instead of just blaming the source. After all, people don't want excuses - they just want it to work. AMP just doesn't work smoothly on any setting other than "clear" consistently. "..

So what's the problem with leaving AMP set to Clear? I don't get it, do the other AMP settings have advantages over Clear?
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