Official Samsung UNxxES8000 Owner's Thread - Page 363

Originally Posted by Anthony5362 

Here's a couple new articles that explains the new H.265 that's going to be included in the Evo kit

http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57566116-76/hevc-video-standard-finished-high-end-improvements-coming/

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1359361589

Another thing that I'm wondering about this kit is, say some people don't buy this years kit and want to wait and buy next years. Can Samsung make it so its impossible to upgrade to next years, without having this years software on your set? Isn't this kind kind of like what you have to do to have Apples latest software? I never tried to skip from "Leopard" to say, "Mountain Lion"

I always stayed up to date with Apples's OS, so I really don't know if you have to do this.

This article kinda mentions a reason why details and full specs on the 2013 models are still unknown right now.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1359376174

Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 

Okay, I guess I should post this in the bd e6500 bluray player thread but; I switched "deep color" from auto to off on my player and I swear the picture is even clearer with more realistic color. I'm watching "the Fifth Element" which I have seen over a hundred times and this has to be the best quality pic I can remember. Its super reference material especially for color and fleshtones. Call me crazy guys, can this be a real change? any input is appreciated.

Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 

Anthony, I imagine turning deep color off frees up processing to do more of the quality core processing.

ya know, it sounds like the new FW has some of your tv's corrected back to what the 8000 was doing right months ago since the descriptions sound like how mine behaves now but with enhanced convergence ability. Make sense?

I have bright set on 46 and get such slight ce micro dimming now but I really like what it's doing. it darkens when and where needed yet, for example in StarWars , when credits fade away the stars in space scenes barely fade ...

Originally Posted by Jestered 

I think the obvious is being overlooked here.

1. In all these videos there's only one thing connected to the TV and that's the single HDMI cable. The TV is getting video somehow in these videos, so where's it coming from? It's coming from the HDMI cable since that's the only thing connected. So, that HDMI cable must be plugged into a blu-ray player or possible a computer which is showing the demo video that they're playing there.

2. Once the Evo Kit is connected, they plug in some cable and explain that it's for internet connection for people that connect over ethernet. Ok, great. What are they connecting that to? They must be connecting it to a router somewhere which is how they're getting internet connection.

There are some major issues here if you're correct in thinking that the lone HDMI cable connected to the TV is going to the Evo Kit box:

1. If the HDMI cable connected to the TV is indeed connected to the Evo Kit box, then where is the video source coming from that they're playing on the TV? It has to come from somewhere and since there is only an HDMI cabled connected to it, it must be coming from there, which means that the HDMI cable is not connected to the Evo Kit.

2. If the Evo Kit box is connected to the HDMI port on the TV, then were is it getting it's internet connection from? There's isn't an ethernet cable connected to the port on the TV, so it's not passing it from there to the Evo Kit box through HDMI. It must be getting it from an ethernet cabled that's connected to a router. This means that it's not connected to the HDMI cable.

To summarize- If the Evo Kit box was indeed connected to the TV through that lone HDMI cable, then there's no possible way that the TV could get any video source or internet. It's simply not possible.

Originally Posted by Anthony5362 

Here's a couple new articles that explains the new H.265 that's going to be included in the Evo kit

http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57566116-76/hevc-video-standard-finished-high-end-improvements-coming/

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1359361589

Another thing that I'm wondering about this kit is, say some people don't buy this years kit and want to wait and buy next years. Can Samsung make it so its impossible to upgrade to next years, without having this years software on your set? Isn't this kind kind of like what you have to do to have Apples latest software? I never tried to skip from "Leopard" to say, "Mountain Lion"

I always stayed up to date with Apples's OS, so I really don't know if you have to do this.

This article kinda mentions a reason why details and full specs on the 2013 models are still unknown right now.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1359376174

Originally Posted by Anthony5362 

And look at this.. Here's the new or should I say "copied and paste" FW patch notes.. Unbelievable Samsung!

Upgrade File (Firmware) (ver.1046.2)
This firmware is for TV Model(s): UN**ES7500 and UN**ES8000.
The version is 1046.2
This firmware update will improve the following:

- Support iOS Smart view app..

- Support Angry Birds app. and Yahoo SyncPlus app..

- Improves performance of Smart Hub

- Adds print function in photo applications such as the Photo function of AllShare Play or Picasa.

- Supports Samsung Audio Dock and Wireless Keyboard VG-KBD1500

- Resolves compatibility issue with DLNA devices and network router/switch.

- Improves picture quality.

- Enhances Voice Recognition feature.

- Change the TV Power On command from ''Hi TV'' to ''Hi TV Power On'' or ''Smart TV'' to ''Smart TV Power On.''

You know what's interesting? If you look up the UN75ES9000 on their website and see what updates they have gotten, they are the same exact ones as ours. They don't even mention the 9000 model in the notes. I always wondered if in fact they are the exact models and have the Cinema black feature but its hidden somewhere, or they left the setting out when they released the TV. Hmm! Just a thought here..

I just came across this thread on here which others talk about issues with the past FW on these 2012 sets.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1439623/recent-samsung-firmware-update-causes-1080p-problem

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

Yep, same freaking stuff. I can't remember where, but it has been mentioned in several articles and I think one of the videos that H.265 support would be included in the evo kit.

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

Yep, same freaking stuff. I can't remember where, but it has been mentioned in several articles and I think one of the videos that H.265 support would be included in the evo kit.

Originally Posted by Anthony5362 

I read about it somewhere. Can't remember where, but this is all up in the air still. We still don't have any concrete Info on this. The video says and shows that the picture quality will be Improved from VOD though, so that's where I thought Samsung can get away with saying it gives "improved picture quality"

Originally Posted by Otto Pylot 

If I may add to the Deep Color question.... Deep Color is basically 30 or 36 bit color, instead of the usual 24 bit color (8 bits for each color, R,G,B). Quite a few blu-ray players will output Deep Color if it is encoded on the disk, and quite a few tv's will support it (as does the High Speed HDMI protocols). However, there are very few, actually probably none, blu-ray disks that have been encoded for Deep Color, so up-converting to Deep Color will result in contouring artifacts and poor pq. It's one of the "future" enhancements that never made it, yet, to blu-ray disks, but has cause lots of headaches for folks when it was enabled.

Originally Posted by LoD80k 

Hello. I'm new to this thread. Forgive me if i'm barging in but i could use some educated perspective.

I have a 60" Panasonic GT50 plasma and a 55" Sony XBR HX950 sitting side by side in my living room right now. Panny plasma's picture leaves me somewhat disappointed but I love the size. Not as crisp and saturated as i'd like. XBR's picture is tremendous but really feels a bit small (65" is too much$$). I keep thinking the Samsung ES8000 LED may be perfect for me but every store I walk into i'm told the 8000 has a bunch of issues, or that the GT plasma beats it, or that it's nowhere near the picture of the Sony, or that there will always be some degree of soap opera effect i cannot eliminate, or that the level of screen uniformity, blooming, and DSE are worse than the Panasonic plasma or the XBR (which so far has zero issues). The DSE on light backgrounds such as hockey makes me cringe. I have also been told for the same price point to wait for the new Samsung that is so great it will solve world hunger without paying XBR and Elite prices. I thought it would be smart to ask you guys since you own them and have probably been through all of the pros/cons, problems and solutions. I'm between a rock and a hard place because i really would like to take advantage of 2012 model prices. I have been delaying this purchase since October of 2011. Can you guys give me your 2 cents and the cliff notes breakdown? Please. Thanks so much.

Originally Posted by LoD80k 

Hello. I'm new to this thread. Forgive me if i'm barging in but i could use some educated perspective.

I have a 60" Panasonic GT50 plasma and a 55" Sony XBR HX950 sitting side by side in my living room right now. Panny plasma's picture leaves me somewhat disappointed but I love the size. Not as crisp and saturated as i'd like. XBR's picture is tremendous but really feels a bit small (65" is too much$$). I keep thinking the Samsung ES8000 LED may be perfect for me but every store I walk into i'm told the 8000 has a bunch of issues, or that the GT plasma beats it, or that it's nowhere near the picture of the Sony, or that there will always be some degree of soap opera effect i cannot eliminate, or that the level of screen uniformity, blooming, and DSE are worse than the Panasonic plasma or the XBR (which so far has zero issues). The DSE on light backgrounds such as hockey makes me cringe. I have also been told for the same price point to wait for the new Samsung that is so great it will solve world hunger without paying XBR and Elite prices. I thought it would be smart to ask you guys since you own them and have probably been through all of the pros/cons, problems and solutions. I'm between a rock and a hard place because i really would like to take advantage of 2012 model prices. I have been delaying this purchase since October of 2011. Can you guys give me your 2 cents and the cliff notes breakdown? Please. Thanks so much.

Originally Posted by Ricoflashback 

Where's Bolt989 when you need him? Keep the "Plasma" - throw away the "Cannolis." Just kidding.

I have a 65" Sammy set that I'm very happy with (very mild vertical banding) but I'll defer to the folks on the forum here who have the 60" (seems to be far less troublesome) and Garnoch and a couple of others to help you with your options. And I know what you mean about the DSE (some here will call it vertical banding) on hockey - - I see it all the time. Of all the content where banding shows the most, in my experience, it's with hockey. Even more so than golf.

I would have loved to purchase the Pro Elite (backlit versus edge lit) - - but it was way too pricey. That's an option - - especially if the price has come down. Otherwise - - it's a crap shoot (panel lottery) on the LCD/LED's but you can tilt the game in your favor if you look at some of the 60" sets - - it does seem that the 65" Sammy's have major vertical banding issues but so does the Sony 65", if you read through their thread.

Lastly - probably not an option for you, but if I had to do it all over again, I'd look at a projector with a significant screen gain to compensate for light (if that's an issue for you.) I'll eventually get one for 2D and Cinemascope as 90 to 95% of the content on my Sammy 65" is drop dead gorgeous. But if you're a hockey fan - - you'll need a pane without any banding or DSE, period. IMHO.

Best - Rico