Official Samsung UNxxES8000 Owner's Thread - Page 380

It looks like the Colormunki meter will only give you a predefined 10p white balance, so that won't work for me. Now I just need to figure out if I want to get the retail i1Display3 and maybe get the CalMAN software later (if it will indeed work with the retail version of the meter) or go with the Chromapure bundle now. Decisions decisions...

Mmkay...my settings after the latest update.

Picture Mode: Standard
Backlight: 11
Contrast: 92
Brightness: 53
Sharpness: 18
Color:50
Tint: 50/50

Screen Adjustment: 16x9 (this is weird. Always had it on screen fit before, but that is greyed out. It seems I'm getting all the pixels as I get the "light bars" on top when watching some commercials, as I did in screen fit. I changed the output of my Arris cable box to 720p,from 720p/1080i. Maybe thats the difference?)

Advanced Settings:
Dynamic Contrast: Low
Black Tone: Dark
Flesh Tone: 0
Color Space: Auto
White Balance
R Offset: 21
G Offset: 21
B Offset: 21

R Gain: 24
G Gain: 24
B Gain: 24

10p White Balance: greyed out
Gamma: 0
xvYCC: Off (greyed out)
Motion Lighting: Off
Black Enhancer: Off (greyed out

Picture Options
Color Tone: Standard
Digital Noise Filter: Auto (off for BluRay)
Mpeg Noise Filter: Auto (off for BluRay)
HDMI Black Level: Low (greyed out)
Film Mode: Off (greyed out)
Auto Motion Plus : Off....Standard for hockey.
LED Motion Plus: Off
Eco Sensor: On
Min Backlight: 7 or 8

This is for a 55es7500, done with Garnochs settings, with some personal preference tweaking by me with no calibration discs or tools.
Your mileage may vary.
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I wouldn't say solved, but this update did help with with clouding/flashlighting for some reason. I can't answer the banding issue, but other than some saying it can be diminished somewhat with certain settings, I wouldn't think an update could help with that. Hopefully someone with a 65", or Eagle, can chime in.

You're welcome, just paying or forward. Anthony, as you know, literally has both to look at so he's the best to answer that, but I will say these two things in addition to what Anthony sees in person. One, the banding always seems to be an issue with the 65", but rarely seen on the 60". And two, remember that if you're sitting close to the TV, a larger picture will not look as well. I'll be extreme in this example, but an HD image on a 46" will look WAY better than an HD picture in a theater. If you're sitting the correct distance from your TV, you wouldn't notice though.
http://www.thehighdefinitionstore.com/TV-Viewing-Distance-s/79.htm
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-1Cprh37oRiD/learn/learningcenter/home/TV_placement.html

Thanks Jestered, I'll have to do a little more research since I don't know what's the best option for me up to now. The chromapure looks good, but Im not sure about the terms of the license.

Thanks Garnoch, I've been thinking for some time on buying a color meter myself, just waiting for the right time to approach my wife. =)

No problem! The Colormunki looks promising, but it would bug me not being able to set the 10p white balance. Now I'm back to looking at the Spyder4Elite. I wouldn't have to buy any other software right away and it will work on my Mac. I'd really like to have the i1Display3, but that is going to require that I buy software right away. I'm so close to pulling the trigger it's not even funny. It's getting close to beer thirty, so I should probably make this decision with a clear mind. I can't tell you how many times I've woken up only to find through emails what I had ordered the night before.

Yes the latest updates were like WOW is that for real? HD is almost Blu ray like on some sources, having said that it can still be improved upon a little.

I see no improvement on SD but don't watch that anyway. We just need the stuttering sorted now and we're done. Unfortunately every 65" panel I've heard of has banding, we don't have the 60" here either so people are being forced over to plasma for a uniform 60" + panel

Yes I've the 55 ES8, bought day1 week 1 and it's about as perfect as you'll get, luckily, no banding, clouding or light bleed. Motion handling is also perfect apart from occasional stuttering. I'd be interested to se what people this side of the pond think of my settings as I've had very good feedback from the UK forum, not perfect but I haven't found anything to top them in nearly a year.

Not dynamic but a calibrator's nightmare nonetheless . Having said that I must have had a hundred people on the AV forums saying they like these settings. I know they're not perfect but I find they're a great starting point. These are geared to Sky HD but work well on blu ray too

Picture Mode - Standard
Backlight 12
Contrast 80
brightness 43
Sharpness 30 (or whatever you like)
Colour 49
Tint 50/50
Dynamic Contrast Off
Black Tone Off
Flesh T 0
Colour Space Auto
White Balance all 25
Gamma 0
Motion Lighting Off
Colour Tone Standard
DNF/MPEG Off
Film Mode Auto 2
Motion Plus Off
LED MP Off

Auto 2 seems slightly better for Sky source, not a lot in it though so just use what seems best

Just curious, anyone use dynamic or natural modes for anything?

Ha, nice way to fit Dynamic in there! Points to Anthony!

Thanks for sharing your preferred settings, Arenaman!

I definitely saw this too but to me it was fixing a problem I've had with the previous update. For a while I thought it was just DirecTV and compression artifacts, but it happened right after the Oct update. This update totally fixed it and it looks amazing. I'm not sure what was going on but between that and some other things, this update is a keeper.

Anthony, nice find on Nitra's reset post. You have a good memory and must have spent a decent amount of time finding that. Doing a reset definitely changed a few things with my settings to get back to where I was, so I need to decide to either do one every time, or never do one again. I'm honestly not sure what to do.

I am going to get a UN60ES7500 or 8000 tomorrow. I am not that concearned about the price difference. Is the 8000 that much better? given the same source (BB display) they seem to have the same picture quality.

Anthony, Garnoch and all; this thread has really kicked into gear as of late from FW, audio and apps to hardcore sharing of settings....awesome!!! I have been crazy busy but I did load my router n wireless password to the 8000. Smarthub wanted to update but I refused since my bd-e6500 has been and is cooking! I will run the update nut won't have time to tweak until midweek so Superbowl will have to be watched in "dynamic" for now jk... Can't wait for the game on this tv. Hockey has been so amazing. All of you have been incredible in your input and pictures....thanks for all of it. I actually trolled over to the vt50 thread for a while. Nothing surprising. Q...is dithering that "noise" effect it what...I still don't know exactly what it is.

What a day.

The Short Version - The V is gone.

The Long Version - Samsung showed up. I don't know which service center they came from, white van like the usual utility company van with Samsung logo on it. The tech was a pretty nice guy. He knew, out of hte gate, that this was still a set I coul return so I think he was motivated to help me out. His looked at the flashlighting and said, yeah it was too much. Fidled with a few settings, dropping backlight and brightness made a diffference, but then i darkened the room and it was still there. He wanted to update the firmware but a reasonable chat and the earlier offer of a beer had him agreeing with my request to do that last. He went into the "service menu" (I think that is what he said) and looked around but didn't change anything. At this point he thought that was as good as it would get and wanted to do the firmware. I asked him about the whole theory on the panel being pressed together too hard at that point and he said he hadn't heard of it. FORTUNATELY for me, I had talked him into having a beer at this point and he said he would call a buddy of his who has seen more of these panels. They talked for a while and he came back and said there was something he could try, even though he wasn't "supposed" to do it. He took the frame off the TV and the back and he looseend what he called the chassis bolt and put it all back together. That was the charm 90% reduction in the V. Then he set the firmware to updating, which I do think made a further difference, but not as much as the loosening. As he left I thought it was really interesting that he THANKED me for being a down to earth real person because "you wouldn't believe the douchebags that act like millionaires because they own this TV". Most of the time when he shows up to a call people are pissed at him even though he never did anything to them. He also said it was amazing how much Samsung leaves in the hands of hte techs to make the call on what is OK and what isn't he was basically laughing at the "douchebags" because it is no skin off his nose to leave them high and dry for treating him like dirt.

My TV is looking good and now I just have to figure out if it is worth making it better with some settings.