Official Samsung UNxxES8000 Owner's Thread - Page 383

After almost two day of researching meters, I finally ordered the X-Rite Colormunki Display1. It is the exact same meter as the "meter to have" out there now (X-Rite i1Display3), but they crippled the firmware so that it doesn't get readings quite as fast. The price difference (nearly twice as much) wasn't worth it for just that. Also, it works with the HCFR software, which is free. So, the meter is coming and will be delivered on Tuesday. I'll use the free HCFR software with the AVS test patterns and be able to really dial this TV in. All of that for under $200 ($183.27 shipped).

After all my research, if anyone else is considering a meter, here's what I've found:

Spyder4Elite- This costs the same as the i1Display3 (retail version), but won't calibrate your TV with the included software. You would have to spend another $100 to get the TV calibration upgrade kit for it. It's not supposed to be as good as the i1Display3, so it just doesn't make sense to get this meter.

i1Display3- This is widely regarded as the best meter out there unless you're willing to pay $1,000+ on a meter. Even then it measures up well against those more expensive meters. The retail version (Amazon) is about $250 and comes with the software to calibrate the TV, but it's locked to that software. You won't be able to purchase CalMAN or Chromapure and use the retail meter with those softwares. To use CalMAN or Chromapure with this meter, you have to purchase the OEM version. This version is normally bundled with on or the other softwares. Depending on which version of the software you're wanting to use, be prepared to start at $250 (w/ CalMAN Tutorial version) or $420 (w/ Chromapure Basic). If you want to spend more than what I did, or don't think you can use the free software, you should get this. Those softwares have very good step-by-step procedures that walk you through the calibration. The free software does not.

Colormunki Display1- This is the exact same meter as the i1Display3, but has crippled firmware that slows down the reading of the meter. It also comes with software that does not have all the features that the software that comes with the i1Display (retail version) comes with. If you're using the calibration software that comes with this meter, you won't be able to set 10p white balance, but everything else will be calibrated. If you are comfortable using the free HCFR calibration software, which is free, then this is a no-brainer. You're basically getting the i1Display3 meter and can use it with free software to calibrate everything including 10p white balance. All for under $200!

If anyone is interested, I'll be more than happy to share my calibrated settings when it's done.

It is being delivered Tuesday. I'm gonna be itching to get at it, but I probably won't have time to do the calibration until Wednesday. To properly calibrate the TV using one of these meters, it's going to take a couple of hours it looks like (if not more). I can't wait to do it though!

I saw that too but the one I went for looked a lot classier.

Thanks for the heads up everyone. Im going to go in and look at the set later today. Ill make sure to let yall know how it turned out.

My 55 has a TS01. I have no idea if this is considered good, but it looks remarkable and is better than the SQ01 in my old 52B750, which was a beautiful panel save for some chroma upsampling issues that it had. My TS01 does not exhibit this issue.

Since we're sharing pics of our set ups...



From left to right:

Subwoofer on the floor (under the clock on the wall)
Front speakers on each side of the TV
Center speaker under the TV
Front height speakers on the wall above the TV
The TV
Surround speakers on speaker stands
Surround back speakers on the back wall on each side of the window
My favorite guitar ever (Martin next to the fireplace)
Ummmmmmmm... yeah, nevermind the camera there

My favorite thing about my set up is that all my equipment is in the room behind the wall the TV is on. Everyone always asks me where all my stuff is. I love the clean look!

LOL I wish.

The TV is mounted on a diagonal wall in the living room. It swings out so it can directly face the couch.

I'm considering doing that, I have a closet on the other side of the wall my tv is mounted on.

If you've never owned an edge-lit LED display before, possibly the greatest difference you will (or may) notice is that the Sammy has a considerably narrower viewing angle. Off-axis viewing (greater than about 15~20 degrees) you will begin to notice some washing-out of colors, especially on flesh tones. Not a problem if you plan to do all your watching directly in front of it. The 65" model also has banding issues in every one I have seen, some less, some more, but visible in all (if you know what to look for). The problem has not been reported in the 60" and smaller displays. Somewhere I recall hearing that some 65" Sonys were also experiencing similar banding problems. This is believed to be a physical/mechanical issue and not correctable. I have it to a limited degree with my 65" as well. It becomes even more noticeable with panning scenes (where the camera pans left-to-right or vice-versa). Strangely, I have not seen the problem at all in any 4:3 content, such as some commercials inserted between HD programming. I find this particularly bizarre, as you'd think if it was truly a mechanical issue that it's be present all the time. It isn't. In fact, you're more apt to seldom notice it except with certain solid backgrounds, especially off-white and light grey. Example, a live weather shot one morning last week was of an area totally socked-in with zero-visibility fog. On this shot the banding (even on my set) was severe, but that so far has been the worst I have seen. Unless you're a true video purist, it may be an insignificant flaw unless you draw the short straw and get a particularly bad one. Return/exchange is your only recourse. Mine is minor, I can live with it. Again, this anomaly is only being reported with the 65" model.

Anyone have a summary of what FW rls 1046 gives us (or fixed)?

I heard there's a game on tonight, super something ??

Might give it a chance, I think I just about get what it's all about

About that game, I will say that the Ravens helmets are deeeep shiny black just as I saw them on a vt50.

Thought I had it figured but why when the 49rs were 3rd and goal then didn't progress they got a punt at goal? I thought possession passed to the Ravens?

Also the Ravens ran backwards once and a 1st and 10 went to a 2nd and 13, I thought it stayed at 2nd and 10 if you don't progress even if you go backwards?

You get 4 downs. If they had gone for it on 4th down and didn't make it the other team would have got the ball right there. They punted the ball so the other team would have farther to go to score.

You always start where you get tackled. If you go back then that's where you start on the next play. The first down marker doesn't move back with you, so if you lose 3 yards on 1st down, then it's 2nd down and 13 to get a first down.

Ah right thanks, so many stoppages in this game (the game in general) which spoils it a bit. It's more like a game of chess. Not bad though and it's gaining in popularity in the UK year on year

6. Honey, with the light of the calibrated panel shining on your face, you look more beautiful than ever!

Enjoying the look of the game on my set.
Loving it.....but.......I am having some issues that are shaking the very foundations of my faith.

What kind of a merciful God would allow the power to remain on all the way through Beyonces' half-time show, only to let it go out almost immediately after.
I don't think He chooses sides for a game, so...........I'm having some big issues here.
Lol

Turboman123, that was genius as well...a very great plan!

BPWingn, ditto...but I would say we really hit a black level and shadow detail test on the outtage tonight. Beyonce, just not football anthem material.

On the 8000. When you guys say reset are you guys talking about TV reset or Picture reset? After update. Why is that some have update 1064 and some 1064.2? What is the differance? why do I not have the option for 1064.2? I'm in south Texas. Thanks BTW great forum! I love reading all the post.I tried some of the setting you guys posted very cool. The best picture on a TV I ever seen. My buddys freak out.Keep up the testing.Great job.

I have not even taken it out of the box yet but have a quick setup question. This will be controlled via RS-232 from my Crestron system. I noticed when the display unit was powered up at the store that it powered up to the "hub"? (I guess that's what it's called).
Can it be configured to start up on a selected input vs the "hub"? All my source equipment is rack mounted in another room. A AVR is doing all the source switching so only one HDMI input will be used. As such, I only wish it to come on to the input connected to the AVR.
I will connect it to the internet but don't plan to use that feature much.

Touche!!!

The FM official noted update is 1046.2. If your set is displaying just 1046 it is current. They are one in the same.

As for the resetting, it is the TV reset. By doing this everything is reset back to factory. You'll have go back in and setup everything from store mode to home mode etc...

Here is more precise and detailed explanation of all terms used on Sammy LCD set. Not actually es8000 series, but reading is very informative

Thanks. So this needs to be done after every FW update?