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post #11581 of 15327
2/5/13 at 3:42am
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Here is Lord of the Rings Im more than happy.

Panel is impressive , now you may want to cover flashing samsung logo at bottom...eek.gif
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post #11582 of 15327
2/5/13 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

This is a pic i took of my 65" of the banding issue before the update.



After the update. I still notice the one on the left, but to me it looks better.



What do you guys think. Does it look better to you? It always helps having other eyes look.

Someone on here wanted to see Hockey. I think Hockey looks amazing on this set



Im adding two more pics. You can click on my Avatar to check them out if your interested. Just give me some time to do this..




Looks great anthony. i notice the difference

Would you mind sharing all your seetings?

Thanks
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post #11583 of 15327
2/5/13 at 4:15am
hey guys how does mine look for banding now that i finally know what to look for




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post #11584 of 15327
2/5/13 at 4:17am
Thanks man.. I really don't like posting my settings because they are NOT settings that were professionally calibrated, but yes, I will write them down later when I have some time and near my sets and then post them. I want to note though that my 65" panel has very different settings from my 60" panel, so now I truly believe when people say every panel is different. I used to let that comment go in one ear and out the other, until I had 3 sets of the same TV with different sizes. Not I'm a true believer of that.

Do you own a Apple TV, or an iPhone, or even an iPad? I ask because I used the THX app to calibrate my sets. Its very easy to use and free for only a short time..
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post #11585 of 15327
2/5/13 at 4:19am
Kaos, what size panel is that? Is it the 65"?
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post #11586 of 15327
2/5/13 at 4:22am
yeah its a ua65es8000
Edited by kaosx77 - 2/5/13 at 5:20am
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post #11587 of 15327
2/5/13 at 4:29am
Here's some info on the 2013 models. Please note, I won't be posting anymore links about the new sets here. There's another thread called Samsung F8000 gets Micro... That's where all the info will be posted from now on, so check there if your interested. Its too much work posting the same articles in both these threads..lol!

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ceag-announces-technology-comparison-between-led-and-plasma-tvs-top-tier-samsung-panasonic-and-lg-tvs-help-determine-pros-and-cons-for-each-technology-189773381.html

Kaos, I know of a awesome Guy that does this. His name is "Kevin Miller" look him up. He's amazing at what he does. Also. What SIZE is your TV? It must be the 65" with that banding because I've never seen banding that noticeable on the smaller sets.

I noticed on my test pics from before the update and after, that the banding on the left is the same as always, but the ones on the right are much better now after the update.
Edited by Anthony5362 - 2/5/13 at 4:46am
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post #11588 of 15327
2/5/13 at 5:02am
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Originally Posted by lbass View Post

Well this is what has pushed me in this direction. I was looking at a 55" so trying to get a gauge on whether the set is now good in terms of banding.
I've never heard any 55" with banding, Ive had my 55" for probably 8months and I dont think you could find a better set for hockey. Sharp, vivid, quick and smooth.
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post #11589 of 15327
2/5/13 at 5:06am
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Originally Posted by Derek Gosselin View Post

I've never heard any 55" with banding, Ive had my 55" for probably 8months and I dont think you could find a better set for hockey. Sharp, vivid, quick and smooth.

Hey Derek, good to see you back! How did you make out with your cable box?

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I agree man.. Everything just looks amazing now. the letter box bars are pitch black with absolutely NO flashlighting whatsoever! On all my panels!

My Kef model 7's are coming in today. Can't believe I got them for only $300 from Pauls TV.
Edited by Anthony5362 - 2/5/13 at 5:22am
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post #11590 of 15327
2/5/13 at 5:26am
Anthony mine is the 65"

Ill be in contact with a calibrator tomorow i have called him today left a message he returned my call but had left my phone at home so ill call him in the morning see if we can arrage a date to get mine done
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post #11591 of 15327
2/5/13 at 5:26am
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

Hey Derek, good to see you back! How did you make out with your cable box?

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I agree man.. Everything just looks amazing now. the letter box bars are pitch black with absolutely NO flashlighting whatsoever! On all my panels!

I set it to output 720p. for now till I look into upgrading to the latest box that has "native". To be honest, the picture is face melting fantastic, I can't see how it could get any better. Blacks cant get any darker and using warm1 the whites are POPPIN.

I still havent tinkered with my wow disk since the 1046.2, I feel it needs some minor fiddleling. but I must say, 1046.2 is were the party"s at.
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post #11592 of 15327
2/5/13 at 5:32am
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Originally Posted by Derek Gosselin View Post

I set it to output 720p. for now till I look into upgrading to the latest box that has "native". To be honest, the picture is face melting fantastic, I can't see how it could get any better. Blacks cant get any darker and using warm1 the whites are POPPIN.

I still haven't tinkered with my wow disk since the 1046.2, I feel it needs some minor fiddling. but I must say, 1046.2 is were the party"s at.

HAHA! Face Melting it really is! lol! blast from the past there..

Just took these. Whites are pure white, and blacks are black! and this was taken with a cheap cell phone



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post #11593 of 15327
2/5/13 at 5:37am
Derek,
Im not sure your missing out on anything by not having a box that outputs in "Native" here's my own experience, When I did this with mine, Every time there was a different signal, I got a delay. Meaning, the channels didn't change very smoothly. I ended up going back to 720p because of this
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post #11594 of 15327
2/5/13 at 5:41am
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Originally Posted by kaosx77 View Post

Anthony mine is the 65"

Ill be in contact with a calibrator tomorow i have called him today left a message he returned my call but had left my phone at home so ill call him in the morning see if we can arrage a date to get mine done

I figured with that banding you have. Hey, good luck with the calibrator. Ask as many questions as possible when he's there. Btw, are you the one with those Klipsch "Synergy" speakers?
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post #11595 of 15327
2/5/13 at 5:43am
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

Derek,
Im not sure your missing out on anything by not having a box that outputs in "Native" here's my own experience, When I did this with mine, Every time there was a different signal, I got a delay. Meaning, the channels didn't change very smoothly. I ended up going back to 720p because of this

Ya. like I said, I can't see how the picture can get any better. It's almost bluray quality from cable source. I'm happy as it is. Your pictures look nice
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post #11596 of 15327
2/5/13 at 5:44am
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

This is a pic i took of my 65" of the banding issue before the update.



After the update. I still notice the one on the left, but to me it looks better.



What do you guys think. Does it look better to you? It always helps having other eyes look.

Someone on here wanted to see Hockey. I think Hockey looks amazing on this set



Im adding two more pics. You can click on my Avatar to check them out if your interested. Just give me some time to do this..

The good news is the hockey shot looks great, but the banding looks identical to me... But it could be because I know how to spot it and have vertical bands burned into my retinas.
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post #11597 of 15327
2/5/13 at 5:46am
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Originally Posted by kaosx77 View Post

hey guys how does mine look for banding now that i finally know what to look for





It looks pretty bad on the beach test screen shots. Those bands are probably a disaster on panning shots.
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post #11598 of 15327
2/5/13 at 6:04am
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

I figured with that banding you have. Hey, good luck with the calibrator. Ask as many questions as possible when he's there. Btw, are you the one with those Klipsch "Synergy" speakers?


yeah i have the klipsch synergy speakers

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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

It looks pretty bad on the beach test screen shots. Those bands are probably a disaster on panning shots.

so you guys think this banding would get repaired from samsung?
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post #11599 of 15327
2/5/13 at 6:07am
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Originally Posted by Catt99 View Post

Father to Son:

[long backstory] . . . and forevermore across the land that particular update was known as the "Bladerunner update".
....Muchas gracias Catt99...

Anthony, Garnoch and all the 8000 bro's... You all know I got my set in June with FW 1013.2 and stayed firm in not updating. I was 100% satisfied and loved my settings. Tolerated the minor flashlighting, but had no V issue or clouding to speak of. Well, the worm has turned.

1046.2 is the T*Ts!!!!...The bomb!...."its where the party's at"

I use hdmi direct to tv for bluray, fios and hdvdvd source. Optical out to my soundbar. Test material on bluray was Lawrence of Arabia, Revenge of the Sith, Fifth Element and Casablanca. Fios was CNN and a boatload of channel surfing. Results....Call me crazy but I'm with you guys!!!

-ZERO flashlighting...zero, nada, NONE!
-Blacker blacks in source material as well as letter box bars...I'm convinced this unit is WAY more software based and I'll side with people who think Cinema Black may have been switched on.
-Deeper better colors, especially in detail of red, orange and fuscia garments....OMG...
-CE dimming, much more tamed as I am at 45 brightness and the stars stay pretty bright as credits dissapear in StarWars

I'm rolling in Standard Mode. all 3 hdmi sources individually got the "reset" before tweak city.
-11 for Backlight althiugh this may be dialed vack to 10 cuz panel seems brighter now...
-97 Contrast
-45 Brightness
-12-15 for Sharpness although needs observation since the update really sharpened up an already sharp image...wow
-50 Color...amazing and may need to dial back to 48 or 49 after I finish my acid trip with the Sammy
-Dynamic Con, Black tone, Flesh tone, OFF
-Native Color space...love this
-OFF for gamma
-Motion Light ON
-Color Tone is Warm1 but Standard is much richer now as well and it wouldnt surpise me if i switch back and forth...white does look white on my Warm1 when looking at white "BMW's and Benz's" smile.gif or white business shirts on CNN and football jersey's
-AMP is on...game effing on babay however, clear is a 2nd choice
-LED Motion OFF

LOVE THIS UPDATE, loved my TV before it, loving it even more after the FW update to 1046.2. Yes, all...the ".2" will show when you check the "Connect with Samsung" window.

Anthony...you called this one spot on!!!
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post #11600 of 15327
2/5/13 at 6:08am
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Originally Posted by montegoblueguy View Post

LOL Pony show means just messing around taking his time but not doing really anything. Did he explain why he loosened the chassie.Or did he keep to himself?

he did it to get rid of V. it worked really well.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Over tightened screws causes excess flashlighting. Loosening them often reduces the effect.

This was the reason he loosened it.
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Originally Posted by montegoblueguy View Post

Lets all try it. LOL

Not sure if that is sarcasm or not, all I know is it made a difference for me.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

That's a loaded question you are asking as typically Samsung and uniformity are generally not synonymous as quality control is somewhat lacking. All kidding aside, the recent update does appear to have improved black levels according to a few of the posters... but don't expect Samsungs to be flashlight free. With any edge lit set, a combination of viewing conditions and source material can cause this issue. We're you watching in complete darkness? Was the source material dark to begin with? Hockey generally is not an LED tvs friend to begin with due to various uniformity, banding, DSE issues that typically show up to varying degrees on any brand, make or model.

i don't know about everyone out there, but i find hockey way better on LED than plasma. the auto dimming on plasma kills it for me and i don't see any banding on my set.
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post #11601 of 15327
2/5/13 at 6:20am
Anthony5362 and kaosx77:


Thanks for posting the shots of your 65"s and the banding issues.

I would say that the banding is pretty hard to see on the Samsung Picture Test screen.

The best way to really see it is to hook up your laptop or another source and output a full screen of 50% gray. If you don't have a laptop you can hook up, search YouTube on SmartHub for "banding test" or "dead pixel test" - at least one of those videos will have a full white screen (harder to see the banding, but still better visibility than the Samsung Picture Test) or a gray screen. Again, the best test is the 50% gray (or you can even go a little darker - say 65% gray). By the way, the easiest way to output the gray screen is to set your desktop background to that color and output to the TV.

Anyhow, I would be very curious to see the results of the gray screen on your sets if you can post some more pictures it would be appreciated.

In an effort to out-do Cmay, my fourth (#4) set will be delivered this week. This time Amazon is letting me keep the current one in the house to do a comparison and then send back the lesser of the two evils.

I'll post side-by-side pictures once I get #4....
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post #11602 of 15327
2/5/13 at 6:22am
PS - appreciate the info on the F8500, but don't prefer the design to either the F8000 released at CES or the current UNES8000 - it looks like it is smiling at me, also the cabinet/stand at the bottom makes it look like a thicker bezel...
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post #11603 of 15327
2/5/13 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

....Muchas gracias Catt99...

Anthony, Garnoch and all the 8000 bro's... You all know I got my set in June with FW 1013.2 and stayed firm in not updating. I was 100% satisfied and loved my settings. Tolerated the minor flashlighting, but had no V issue or clouding to speak of. Well, the worm has turned.

1046.2 is the T*Ts!!!!...The bomb!...."its where the party's at"

I use hdmi direct to tv for bluray, fios and hdvdvd source. Optical out to my soundbar. Test material on bluray was Lawrence of Arabia, Revenge of the Sith, Fifth Element and Casablanca. Fios was CNN and a boatload of channel surfing. Results....Call me crazy but I'm with you guys!!!

-ZERO flashlighting...zero, nada, NONE!
-Blacker blacks in source material as well as letter box bars...I'm convinced this unit is WAY more software based and I'll side with people who think Cinema Black may have been switched on.
-Deeper better colors, especially in detail of red, orange and fuscia garments....OMG...
-CE dimming, much more tamed as I am at 45 brightness and the stars stay pretty bright as credits dissapear in StarWars

I'm rolling in Standard Mode. all 3 hdmi sources individually got the "reset" before tweak city.
-11 for Backlight althiugh this may be dialed vack to 10 cuz panel seems brighter now...
-97 Contrast
-45 Brightness
-12-15 for Sharpness although needs observation since the update really sharpened up an already sharp image...wow
-50 Color...amazing and may need to dial back to 48 or 49 after I finish my acid trip with the Sammy
-Dynamic Con, Black tone, Flesh tone, OFF
-Native Color space...love this
-OFF for gamma
-Motion Light ON
-Color Tone is Warm1 but Standard is much richer now as well and it wouldnt surpise me if i switch back and forth...white does look white on my Warm1 when looking at white "BMW's and Benz's" smile.gif or white business shirts on CNN and football jersey's
-AMP is on...game effing on babay however, clear is a 2nd choice
-LED Motion OFF

LOVE THIS UPDATE, loved my TV before it, loving it even more after the FW update to 1046.2. Yes, all...the ".2" will show when you check the "Connect with Samsung" window.

Anthony...you called this one spot on!!!

++++=1000000! Lmao!

Dude, this update is now called the "BladeRunner" update.. Ok everyone? This is how we will all remember this by..lol!

Now blade, make sure you disconnect your TV from this crazy sick world we live in because I don't trust Samsung! Lol!
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post #11604 of 15327
2/5/13 at 6:32am
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

HAHA! Great advice!
Thanks Guys???? After remodel I will be changing things around. frown.gif
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post #11605 of 15327
2/5/13 at 6:35am
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Originally Posted by prsut View Post

Panel is impressive , now you may want to cover flashing samsung logo at bottom...eek.gif
The logo can be turned off. I like it on.It looks cool.
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post #11606 of 15327
2/5/13 at 6:39am
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

It looks pretty bad on the beach test screen shots. Those bands are probably a disaster on panning shots.
Oh boy thats really bad ,my man. So what the next step for you?
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post #11607 of 15327
2/5/13 at 6:43am
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

....Muchas gracias Catt99...

Anthony, Garnoch and all the 8000 bro's... You all know I got my set in June with FW 1013.2 and stayed firm in not updating. I was 100% satisfied and loved my settings. Tolerated the minor flashlighting, but had no V issue or clouding to speak of. Well, the worm has turned.

1046.2 is the T*Ts!!!!...The bomb!...."its where the party's at"

I use hdmi direct to tv for bluray, fios and hdvdvd source. Optical out to my soundbar. Test material on bluray was Lawrence of Arabia, Revenge of the Sith, Fifth Element and Casablanca. Fios was CNN and a boatload of channel surfing. Results....Call me crazy but I'm with you guys!!!

-ZERO flashlighting...zero, nada, NONE!
-Blacker blacks in source material as well as letter box bars...I'm convinced this unit is WAY more software based and I'll side with people who think Cinema Black may have been switched on.
-Deeper better colors, especially in detail of red, orange and fuscia garments....OMG...
-CE dimming, much more tamed as I am at 45 brightness and the stars stay pretty bright as credits dissapear in StarWars

I'm rolling in Standard Mode. all 3 hdmi sources individually got the "reset" before tweak city.
-11 for Backlight althiugh this may be dialed vack to 10 cuz panel seems brighter now...
-97 Contrast
-45 Brightness
-12-15 for Sharpness although needs observation since the update really sharpened up an already sharp image...wow
-50 Color...amazing and may need to dial back to 48 or 49 after I finish my acid trip with the Sammy
-Dynamic Con, Black tone, Flesh tone, OFF
-Native Color space...love this
-OFF for gamma
-Motion Light ON
-Color Tone is Warm1 but Standard is much richer now as well and it wouldnt surpise me if i switch back and forth...white does look white on my Warm1 when looking at white "BMW's and Benz's" smile.gif or white business shirts on CNN and football jersey's
-AMP is on...game effing on babay however, clear is a 2nd choice
-LED Motion OFF

LOVE THIS UPDATE, loved my TV before it, loving it even more after the FW update to 1046.2. Yes, all...the ".2" will show when you check the "Connect with Samsung" window.

Anthony...you called this one spot on!!!

Thanks bro! Seriously, my freaking 70+ old grandmother noticed this right after I did the reset. And that was with the factory default settings! No, I don't recommend keeping them though. I mean I know she's old, but for her to notice right away should say something. I truly believe we are all now benefiting from buying the ES8000 over the ES7500 I rest my case now..lol!
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post #11608 of 15327
2/5/13 at 6:52am
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Originally Posted by kaosx77 View Post

Anthony mine is the 65"

Ill be in contact with a calibrator tomorow i have called him today left a message he returned my call but had left my phone at home so ill call him in the morning see if we can arrage a date to get mine done

Kaos, In order to get Samsung to fix or replace your panel, you need to get a really nice service tech out to you. Can you still return it? Where did you buy it and how long ago? Because you shouldn't get it calibrated right away. It needs like 200 hours on it first I heard. The other thing is, say Samsung does replace it or replace the panel, you may get one that's even worse. Really, the only option right now for a 65" is to return it and wait for the F8000 to see if they fixed the banding. Or, go with the 60" like I did for my other TV.

Btw, I love the look of those Klipsch! How do they sound though? Are they good for a large room?
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post #11609 of 15327
2/5/13 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by montegoblueguy View Post

The logo can be turned off. I like it on.It looks cool.

It does look good on, but when the TVs off..lol! Hey, whatever you like man. I turned mine off completely on one of my sets so it wouldn't use power 24x7. I'm so OCD that I thought if I keep it off, it would prolong its lifespan. But once it was off, I couldn't tell if the TV was on or off for the life of me, so now I just keep the logo on while the TVs off so I know its off.

Hey, I added my cars to my pictures. Just click on my avatar. You can add any pics you want on yours too. I'm curious to see your CLS. Did you do trick it out at all? Tricking out cars is my number one hobby. Cars period actually. Even my grandmother loves sport cars with tinted windows and chrome wheels..lol
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post #11610 of 15327
2/5/13 at 7:46am
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Originally Posted by turboman123 View Post

Garnoch has one of those as well.
OK, you have to explain one of those to me, because English is not my first language. Do you refer to Garnoch having:
- a cool wife as well? (I did not know you can refer to a wife as "those")
- A Maserati? Or a German vroom-vroom?

All three, haha no. We're an Infiniti family. He meant cool wife. He knows first hand wink.gif
She likes big TVs and fast nice cars (as long as they are not old, hates my '67 Mustang)
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