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post #12631 of 16126
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Originally Posted by trufans View Post

Im going by the shipment date to the place I brought it from that is listed on the box as 02.12.2012, unless that means Dec. 2, 2012?? Version HS01. This is already the second tv, they finally replaced the first one. Like I said, this one is better, but still not great, and nowhere near the excellent quality of the picture people report and not even close to as good as the older Samsung 6300. I do not know if they will give me another new one or not, but this one still isn't right in my opinion. Current software version is 1047.

Here are some pictures I just took of the problem I am having. Hopefully it shows up...

Thanks

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Yeah probably Dec, I have HS01 from November and it is perfect. Just doesn't make sense. Just for kicks did you ever do a complete factory reset - where it actually asks you if this is a store demo or home use? And did you make sure it says 1920x1080 resolution? It just looks like it is setup wrong cuz I've never seen such a thing before, those photos look so low res...
post #12632 of 16126
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Originally Posted by ksat3 View Post

Yeah probably Dec, I have HS01 from November and it is perfect. Just doesn't make sense. Just for kicks did you ever do a complete factory reset - where it actually asks you if this is a store demo or home use? And did you make sure it says 1920x1080 resolution? It just looks like it is setup wrong cuz I've never seen such a thing before, those photos look so low res...

It seems the most noticeable with the darker colors. It says 1920x1080 /60i. This one is better than the last tv, but the problem is still there. Im not sure how to do a complete factory reset, but when I hooked it up last night I remember seeing the screen about store demo or home use. I am hoping it is set up wrong and is a simple fix.
post #12633 of 16126
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Originally Posted by digimat View Post

Why did it take you soo long to notice these issues? Bestbuy offers a 30 day return no?

Long story short, I had a 90-day ban on returns for having issues with previous sets, so I did not have any return option for this set. That was not disclosed to me until after I paid for the set. I noticed the issues immediately (I didn't actually notice the 3D bands right away, until I started spending more time with 3D mode, but the clouding was obvious right out of the box).
post #12634 of 16126
when you update to 1046.2 does it show up on tv as 1046.2 or 1046 in the support menu
post #12635 of 16126
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Originally Posted by seansingh7326 View Post

when you update to 1046.2 does it show up on tv as 1046.2 or 1046 in the support menu
1046
post #12636 of 16126
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Originally Posted by seansingh7326 View Post

when you update to 1046.2 does it show up on tv as 1046.2 or 1046 in the support menu

I think it just showed up as 1046, but you should be on 1047 now if you are on the most recent fw.
post #12637 of 16126
I just watched Snow White and the Huntsman. I am still amazed at this TV. Today is my 8th day of ownership. I have not found one single thing to complain about yet.

Maybe I'm just easy to please?

smile.gif
post #12638 of 16126
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Long story short, I had a 90-day ban on returns for having issues with previous sets, so I did not have any return option for this set. That was not disclosed to me until after I paid for the set. I noticed the issues immediately (I didn't actually notice the 3D bands right away, until I started spending more time with 3D mode, but the clouding was obvious right out of the box).

yup gotta love best buys new policy
post #12639 of 16126
Monday the Best Buy geek squad is coming out to calibrate my 8000. I gave the TV 2.5 months use to make sure the TV was settled in. Anything I should watch or suggest to the techbest tablet pc reviews
Edited by ackergwj - 3/18/13 at 7:44pm
post #12640 of 16126
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Originally Posted by ackergwj View Post

Monday the Best Buy geek squad is coming out to calibrate my 8000. I gave the TV 2.5 months use to make sure the TV was settled in. Anything I should watch or suggest to the tech.1.gif

Tell him to bring some papers.
post #12641 of 16126
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Not to steer off-topic, but I saw an LG set last year that was $999 cheaper on Amazon than at Best Buy! The same exact size and model set. I compared the two myself one day - both sites open in different tabs. Blu-rays are often quite a bit cheaper on Amazon than Best-Buy, but of course it depends on the title. TVs can definitely vary wildly in price. The return police will definitely not be good for tv buyers though. 15 days is a remarkably small window to thoroughly check out your tv and put it through its paces, especially if you need it delivered, which can take days, and the return policy starts from the date of purchase, not the date of delivery. If your set gets delivered 5 days after purchase, you now have 10 days left to check out your set fully before getting stuck with it.

THX i didn't know it was from purchase date, otherwise if new rules are applied i would have had less then 24hrs to make up my mind>>>lol
post #12642 of 16126
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Originally Posted by zombie1210 View Post

I just watched Snow White and the Huntsman. I am still amazed at this TV. Today is my 8th day of ownership. I have not found one single thing to complain about yet.

Maybe I'm just easy to please?

smile.gif

NOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo, ur just 1 of the lucky 1's like i am with a perfect set day 0.
I read all these problems ppl have & some times i think they're making it up cause i have had No issues but like i said we're the lucky 1's. i surely won't get another tv from BB once the policy changes, prolly will go to costco if they can get top line models like this.
post #12643 of 16126
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Originally Posted by ackergwj View Post

Monday the Best Buy geek squad is coming out to calibrate my 8000. I gave the TV 2.5 months use to make sure the TV was settled in. Anything I should watch or suggest to the tech.1.gif

- are they calibrating one picture mode or more? If one picture mode, you have to decide which one: Movie or Standard.
- what source path will you use and will they calibrate: bluray, htpc?
- If movie mode is calibrated, they should calibrate all the settings that you see in the table (check link in signature of galonzo)
- if Standard picture mode is calibrated, then dimming is a problem at low light input. They should use APL patterns or something appropriate.
- get a report of the measurements and publish in this thread together with the settings.
- if they calibrate 2 picture settings (Movie and Standard), then watch out because the panel has only one color setting. In the end, you would have to decide which picture mode you are going to use, and set the right settings for that.
- what do they charge?
post #12644 of 16126
ackergwj, the spreadsheet turboman123 is referring to is below, in my sig (just posting to make matters easier). What size screen do you have?
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Is there a way to check how many hours the tv has been run for?
post #12646 of 16126
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Originally Posted by OugaBooga View Post

NOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo, ur just 1 of the lucky 1's like i am with a perfect set day 0.
I read all these problems ppl have & some times i think they're making it up cause i have had No issues but like i said we're the lucky 1's. i surely won't get another tv from BB once the policy changes, prolly will go to costco if they can get top line models like this.

I wish I was making it up, but the pictures dont lie in my opinion of the problem I am having that I posted yesterday. I wouldnt call you lucky, that is what I would expect from Samsung, and have always had great luck with their products. I think I am just one of the few unlucky ones...
post #12647 of 16126
So day 3 of my es8000. Took back the HX950. It was without a doubt the absolute best picture ever but the wife agreed on the 60" because size does matter:) Now I have the GT50 still sitting here. It's by by too. On HD movies and anything 1080p it's every bit as good as the Samsung maybe even better for blacks. But overall everyday, CNN, TV shows, etc... the 8000 smokes it. Combined with no fear of IR, crappy daytime viewing I'm quite satisfied. Screw "reference accuracy", i think i just like the look of LED better.

Being new to LED, how would I determined acceptable level of blooming? Watching a Blu Ray that cuts the top and bottom of screen i'm good. However watching darker scenes with a full screen last night the entire bottom left corner (about 10 inches in diagonally from corner) was washing out with blooming pretty noticeably to where i lost color and detail. Took backlight down to 11, anything less started losing details overall. Is there something else I can try to control the blooming? Is this too much?

Also when using analog outs from the DTV box to the receiver i noticed some speech lag on the 8000 that i don't see on the Panny plasma. The plasma is immediate. Anything I can do to compensate for this?

My Panel is HS01 built in Mexico December 2012. software version 001041.

Thanks
post #12648 of 16126
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Originally Posted by LoD80k View Post

Being new to LED, how would I determined acceptable level of blooming? Watching a Blu Ray that cuts the top and bottom of screen i'm good. However watching darker scenes with a full screen last night the entire bottom left corner (about 10 inches in diagonally from corner) was washing out with blooming pretty noticeably to where i lost color and detail. Took backlight down to 11, anything less started losing details overall. Is there something else I can try to control the blooming? Is this too much?
For a dark room backlight 11 is actually pretty bright, depending on your contrast and brightness settings. Other than reducing backlight, all you can really do is try and sit with a better viewing angle. Unfortunately even sitting 20degrees or so off angle will result in noticeably washed out colors and blacks.

You can also try using "standard" mode as supposedly that uses various dimming technologies to reduce clouding and flashlighting.
post #12649 of 16126
sorry but i am sure this question has been asked 100 times but for the life of me i cant find it, how do i find out what panel model number i have?
thanks
post #12650 of 16126
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Originally Posted by slreno View Post

sorry but i am sure this question has been asked 100 times but for the life of me i cant find it, how do i find out what panel model number i have?
thanks
It's on the sticker on the back of your TV
post #12651 of 16126
Hello fellas, I have a couple questions but first I just wanted to say thank you so much for all the great information in this thread and on these boards. This forum is f'ing awesome! I just signed up today but I've been reading this thread for almost a year now lol. I ordered my tv from amazon I think the day it came out so I've had it for almost a year and been all over this thread for settings and info the whole time. Sorry it took me so long to join the fun and actually say something on here. I've learned a ton from you all, so thanks again!

Ok now question time. I've always had my set connected to the internet via cat5 but yesterday I was just messing around and decided to do a full reset and recalibrate it using the same configs I was using before (what I think are the most current of jesterd's movie and garnoch's standard) just to see if it made a difference in any way. Anywho, I decided to try and connect it wirelessly rather than with a hardline this time just for funsies. At the network setup section when I clicked "start" and it began searching for my wireless signal, it took a very long time searching and just returned me to the same begin network setup screen with no error or explanation at all. I don't know if this would've been an issue straight out of the box or what, I've never tried to use the wireless functionality ever on the tv. Always had it connected with a cable. So I tried it a few more times with the same result and then just skipped it andcontinued to set up the tv. Had some fun calibrating, and then unplugged the cable and tried it again just from the menu. Still no love. Any ideas as to why this might be or how it can be fixed? Just for some more info that could possibly be relevant, I had it previously configured with a static ip. I tried changing it to obtain automatically but didn't make a difference. I also removed it from the dhcp table in my router just in case that was somehow conflicting and nothing either. Bluetooth works fine and its right back online the second I plug the cable back in. And I'd assume my wireless signal is good since I have about three other things connected to it and the router is in the same room as the tv.

Also, using the configs I mentioned above it seems like everything looks really great except I feel like flesh tones and basically whites in general have a slight reddish hue. Any thoughts on what the best way I could change that to maybe fix that a little bit with the least amount of settings being changed as possible? My panel is a 55" hs01. By the looks of it I've been pretty fortunate with my set since I feel like i have no qualms with the pq in any way, although I'm far from an expert, and i have only pretty light flashlighting from the corners and 2 fairly subtle areas of clouding. Definitely not even close to perfect but quite manageable. Ok I promise I'm done rambling now, thanks very much for the help and have a great day!
post #12652 of 16126
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Originally Posted by 10k View Post

It's on the sticker on the back of your TV

thank you! what is considered the best panel with least problems and what is considered the worst? because i have almost 0 problems! only problem i see is if my backlight gets over 13 i have 2 very FAINT flashlight looking spots all the at bottom of screen at dead center. that is it. the rest is awesome... i actually got this set as an exchange from office of president as an exchange for a d6000 model that had the false advertising about the true 3d in 1080p when in fact it was not true.
post #12653 of 16126
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Originally Posted by trufans View Post

It seems the most noticeable with the darker colors. It says 1920x1080 /60i. This one is better than the last tv, but the problem is still there. Im not sure how to do a complete factory reset, but when I hooked it up last night I remember seeing the screen about store demo or home use. I am hoping it is set up wrong and is a simple fix.
It almost looks like the plastic film is still on the TV screen. It's possible the store you got it from got a bad batch of TVs assuming they got your second TV from the same place your first one came from.
Edited by thebignewt - 2/22/13 at 9:00am
post #12654 of 16126
I've had my UN60ES8000 for a few weeks and I love it. I was just a bit saddened that the bezel wasn't as nice and thin as the 55". Does anyone know If the 60" comes with the same thin bezel as the 55"?
post #12655 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Roland27 View Post

I've had my UN60ES8000 for a few weeks and I love it. I was just a bit saddened that the bezel wasn't as nice and thin as the 55". Does anyone know If the 60" comes with the same thin bezel as the 55"?
My 65" bezel is thin.
post #12656 of 16126
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Originally Posted by 10k View Post

For a dark room backlight 11 is actually pretty bright, depending on your contrast and brightness settings. Other than reducing backlight, all you can really do is try and sit with a better viewing angle. Unfortunately even sitting 20degrees or so off angle will result in noticeably washed out colors and blacks.

You can also try using "standard" mode as supposedly that uses various dimming technologies to reduce clouding and flashlighting.

Thank you 10k. I'm direct not off access. Not that kind of wash out. It's just heavy blooming in the corner on dark scenes. I like it, i'm just not sure where a fair and acceptable threshold for blooming is. I am running in Standard on Garnochs 10-27 updated settings to reduce CE dimming. not sure what CE dimming is though. Contrast 94, brightness 53.
post #12657 of 16126
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Originally Posted by LoD80k View Post

Thank you 10k. I'm direct not off access. Not that kind of wash out. It's just heavy blooming in the corner on dark scenes. I like it, i'm just not sure where a fair and acceptable threshold for blooming is. I am running in Standard on Garnochs 10-27 updated settings to reduce CE dimming. not sure what CE dimming is though. Contrast 94, brightness 53.
If you have the 1046 firmware turn down the brightness to about 45. CE dimming is a feature that some people don't like because they say that it dims things in dark scenes excessively. BRT at 53 makes it not work. The latest firmware makes this not so much of a problem.
post #12658 of 16126
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

If you have the 1046 firmware turn down the brightness to about 45. CE dimming is a feature that some people don't like because they say that it dims things in dark scenes excessively. BRT at 53 makes it not work. The latest firmware makes this not so much of a problem.

I have the 1041 firmware. Where is the threshold for CE dimming on bright? 50? I did notice when i decreased backlight i started getting too much dimming. I notice somewhere her where folks said upgrading past 1041 created new problems...should I update or stay where i'm at?
post #12659 of 16126
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Originally Posted by LoD80k View Post

I have the 1041 firmware. Where is the threshold for CE dimming on bright? 50? I did notice when i decreased backlight i started getting too much dimming. I notice somewhere her where folks said upgrading past 1041 created new problems...should I update or stay where i'm at?

1046 is the best firmware update ever produced so far for this TV. Many of us, myself included, have done the 1047 update and there's no change in PQ compared to 1046, so you should definitely update.
post #12660 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Jestered View Post

1046 is the best firmware update ever produced so far for this TV. Many of us, myself included, have done the 1047 update and there's no change in PQ compared to 1046, so you should definitely update.

Jestered,

Thanks for the tip. What does 1046 improve? Will it impact blooming? is there somewhere i can read about all the positives that come with the update? lastly when i go to the updates will it allow me to specify 1046 without going all the way to 1047?

Thanks so much
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