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post #12781 of 16126
Rico, I like your movie settings. Oscars look great!!!
post #12782 of 16126
Hey guys - it has been some time.

Quick update for those following on my experience with the UN65ES8000:

Set #1 - Stuck pixel (and what some have referred to as a manufacturing defect where there is a little green pinhole of light, smaller than a pixel on at all times).

Set #2 - Dead pixels - multiple viewable on several different screens (red, green, and blue)

Set #3 - Severe vertical banding (was so distracted by bad pixel issues on #1 and #2 that I didn't take review the banding on those sets); but all good on pixels on this one (see my previous posts for pictures of the banding).

Set #4 - All of the above - dead pixels, little green pinhole of light, and some of the worst vertical banding I've ever seen from the pictures posted here. Both very dark areas and very, very light bands, some right down the middle.

So, I think #4 will be headed back to Amazon as well. Thank goodness for Amazon's great customer service and return policies. I will never buy a TV anywhere else.

In fact, I think I am done with the UN65ES8000. I am going to attempt to stretch out my return on #4, wait until the F8000 series comes out and try one of those.

The guru over at Value Electronics seems to think that the screen uniformity is much better than the UNES8000 series and the panel is a new design/manufacturer.

We'll see. I am sure that there will still be some lingering issues, and I know banding will likely still exist to some degree, but perhaps there will also be a step-up in quality and screen uniformity in the new F8000. Fingers crossed. I think for $3500 you can't expect perfection, but you should expect a set where all the pixels work properly and screen artifacts such as banding don't distract from normal viewing (which I see it terribly on my beloved soccer games).

Here are the most recent shots (1-2 is of the banding; 3-4 is the weird green pinhole of light; 5 is the dead pixel):





post #12783 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

Rico, I like your movie settings. Oscars look great!!!

Bladerunner1959 - thanks but I owe it all to the firmware updates. Believe me - - when I first bought this TV back in August, 2012 - the default settings were horrific. No other word for it. The CNET settings (Katzmier) recommended and published turned me off to the "Movie" setting for months. Even though it might have been more, techncially correct (calibrated?) -- his settings looked like crap.

I mean those settings basically took all the "pop" and "wow" factor out of this set. It was like spraying your screen with a film Hence, the search for better settings and the extension of this thread with all the variations on the "Standard" and Movie" setting.

I think this thread has really evolved where everyone is sharing their experiences on how to get the best picture quality possible, period. After a brief interlude where we had one poster who bascially bashed the set, pushed Plasma technology, then said the set was fine....the thread was enhanced by Turboman123, Galonzo, 10K (I feel like the Oscar's - I know I'm leaving someone out) - who further helped with extensive calibration information and a common repository to access these settings.

And who can forget Anthony (solid warranty info & many other useful tips) and of course, Garnoch, who shared extensive technical and settings information.

So, in summation, it's been quite a ride and with the new Evo kit and never ending firmware updates - - there is still more to learn.

No matter whose settings you use - - the goal has been always the same - - to get the most enjoyment and best picture & benefits you can get out of your set. It has been an honor and a privilege to be part of this Forum. I'm looking forward to learning even more in the future.
Edited by Ricoflashback - 2/24/13 at 9:29pm
post #12784 of 16126
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Originally Posted by howzz1854 View Post

you guys!... i am about to become a new owner of a 60es8000. after struggling with the infamous green halo, ghosting effect on the 60es6500, i went back to the store and was going to get a GT50 or E7000, but the wife really likes the look the LED produces, i bit the bullet and upgraded to the es8000, which will be delivered to my house in two days. i was able to get the store to price match, and got the 60 inch set for just a hair over $2200.

1. question is, how does Micro Dimming work on this set, how can i enable it, or disable it. i am excited about this feature and would like to know how i can control it. my previous understanding is that Standard mode has this feature enable, while Movie mode disables this feature. is there a specific setting i can set in the picture menu control to enable or disable this feature?

2. are people mainly using Movie mode on this set? or are people satisfied with standard mode.

bump please........... anyone?
post #12785 of 16126
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Originally Posted by sony1717 View Post

Hey guys - it has been some time.


In fact, I think I am done with the UN65ES8000. I am going to attempt to stretch out my return on #4, wait until the F8000 series comes out and try one of those.








Had my 65" just over 24hrs, and its going back. I've got really bad banding and clouding. Before this, had the 60LM7200 and returned it because I wanted something bigger. No banding whatsoever and some minor clouding. I was planning to get the 65LM6200 but salesguy talked me into spending an extra grand for the UN65ES8000. Hopefully, the Future Shop still has the LG I returned as an open box item because both the 60LM7200 and 65LM6200 are sold out as of last week.
post #12786 of 16126
I just bought the 55" ES8000 over the weekend, and everything seems good except I cannot get the camera/on board mic working.

When I run the camera app it's black, when I run skype it says it cannot detect a camera. When I go into the system settings, Voice and Motion control is grayed out.

When I run the setup and turn on voice & motion control and run through the tests, the TV fails every test.

I have tried resetting the TV to the default settings, checked that all the terms and conditions have been agreed to. Still no luck.


Is there anything I'm missing? Or do I have a faulty unit?


Thanks in advanced.
post #12787 of 16126
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Originally Posted by howzz1854 View Post

I am about to become a new owner of a 60es8000
1. question is, how does Micro Dimming work on this set, how can i enable it, or disable it. i am excited about this feature and would like to know how i can control it. my previous understanding is that Standard mode has this feature enable, while Movie mode disables this feature. is there a specific setting i can set in the picture menu control to enable or disable this feature?
2. are people mainly using Movie mode on this set? or are people satisfied with standard mode.

1. You are correct in saying that in Standard mode Micro Dimming is always enabled and that in Movie Mode by default it is not. However enabling it in Movie mode is as easy as turning on Black Enhancer (a type of CE Dimming) and Dynamic Contrast on Low. This is according to a well placed rep that spoke with David K. from CNET when we all first discovered that Micro Dimming was disabled by default in Movie mode and he first posted his standard calibration

After a year of owning this tv, I I have a good idea what Micro Dimming is and I've seen the man behind the curtain so to speak. It's just CE Dimming and Dynamic Contrast in combination. Default Standard settings include Dynamic Contrast being on, and CE dimming is always on in that mode (much to the chagrin of some). Check out the CNET picture settings forum ES8000 calibration where David K. says what I just mentioned

Now that I know what it is, I wouldn't buy any Samsung set just because of the Micro Dimming. I possibly should've gone for an ES7500 60' rather than the ES8000' 55". I would have gotten more for my money's worth in real estate that's for sure. In trying to understand the difference picture wise - the only thing that I could dig up between the Micro Dimming Ultimate ES8000 and the Pro Dimming 7500 - is the contrast ratio of the tv's. Samsung's website lists only the Dynamic contrast ratio & claims the 8000 has a Dynamic contrast ratio of 30,000,000:1, while the 7500 has a Dynamic Contrast ratio of 25,000,000:1

Contrast Ratio is a measurement of this difference between the blackest black and the whitest white that the display can display. Dynamic Contrast Ratio is when the back light is adjusted dynamically for darker scenes to give you better black levels i.e. CE dimming. The processor inside the display adjusts the levels depending on the scene currently on the display. So this could actually explain why most of the people who have a problem with CE dimming are 7500 owners. The set isn't capable of the same Dynamic contrast ratio as the 8000 because the processor isn't the same or is limited vs. the one in the 8000

"Contrast ratio is the most important aspect of a TV's performance. More than any other single metric, a set's contrast ratio will be the most noticeable difference between two TVs". Contrast Ratio explained:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20066138-1/contrast-ratio-or-how-every-tv-manufacturer-lies-to-you/

Regardless of the marketing bull, this set is capable of providing one of the best pictures in the industry thanks to Samsung, even without Micro Dimming - and default movie mode will attest to that. I still think this is the best picture for picture LED on the market today. It may not have the black levels of the Sony full array local dimmers, but other than that it has that unparalled Samsung beauty & every day/ every way functionality - and I don't regret my purchase for a second

2. I use 10k's Movie Mode settings with black enhancer and dynamic contrast on Low (for the reasons i posted above - to enable micro dimming). If 10k or anyone can come anywhere close to the accuracy of the movie mode settings when they calibrate Standard, I may eventually move back over to Standard but probably not

Hope this helps,

-Mike
Edited by gamermwm - 2/25/13 at 3:04am
post #12788 of 16126
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Originally Posted by MarleyMarl View Post

I just bought the 55" ES8000 over the weekend, and everything seems good except I cannot get the camera/on board mic working.

When I run the camera app it's black, when I run skype it says it cannot detect a camera. When I go into the system settings, Voice and Motion control is grayed out.

When I run the setup and turn on voice & motion control and run through the tests, the TV fails every test.

I have tried resetting the TV to the default settings, checked that all the terms and conditions have been agreed to. Still no luck.

Is there anything I'm missing? Or do I have a faulty unit?

Thanks in advanced.

Sounds defective, my camera was working immediately after the initial setup.

One last thing you could try is the 'ol PC "hard reset"; unplug the TV and hold the power button for at least 5 seconds (to drain all power from the set and hopefully reset all components), leave unplugged for at least a minute total, and then power back up and see what happens. Before you do this, I would reset to factory via the Troubleshooting menu first.

Let us know how it goes!
post #12789 of 16126
Gamermwm, very well said. I have the 60" 8000 since June and never remorsed my buying decision for a second.

Rico...very well said...ooo rah

Are there any blurays out there that are more detailed and razor sharp than Skyfall and HurtLocker ?
post #12790 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

Gamermwm, very well said. I have the 60" 8000 since June and never remorsed my buying decision for a second.

Rico...very well said...ooo rah

Are there any blurays out there that are more detailed and razor sharp than Skyfall and HurtLocker ?

Not sure if you're into the genre, but the new Avengers bluray (and 3D) is reference quality, especially when Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) is being interrogated; very dark scene, you'll know whether or not your settings are crushing blacks.

Another one is The Dark Knight (I picked up The Dark Knight Rises, but haven't had a chance to view it yet); high contrast scenes like when the Batmobile is in that room full of lights. There are also scenes where the movie opens up out of letterbox(2.4:1) and into "IMAX" view (1.78:1) and fills your screen. Another movie that does this is the new Tron Legacy Bluray, however, this one is more known for showing off your audio.

Anyone else?

:edit: curious after posting this, I just read that Tron wasn't actually shot on IMAX like The Dark Knight, so those scenes aren't particularly reference quality, however, the 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio on those scenes does help wink.gif
Edited by galonzo - 2/25/13 at 5:38am
post #12791 of 16126
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Originally Posted by galonzo View Post

Not sure if you're into the genre, but the new Avengers bluray (and 3D) is reference quality, especially when Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) is being interrogated; very dark scene, you'll know whether or not your settings are crushing blacks.

Another one is The Dark Knight (I picked up The Dark Knight Rises, but haven't had a chance to view it yet); high contrast scenes like when the Batmobile is in that room full of lights. There are also scenes where the movie opens up out of letterbox(2.4:1) and into "IMAX" view (1.78:1) and fills your screen. Another movie that does this is the new Tron Legacy Bluray, however, this one is more known for showing off your audio.

Anyone else?

:edit: curious after posting this, I just read that Tron wasn't actually shot on IMAX like The Dark Knight, so those scenes aren't particularly reference quality, however, the 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio on those scenes does help wink.gif

+1 Excellent Picks...even the menu animation on Avengers is incredible.
post #12792 of 16126
I have been reading a lot over the last couple of weeks and after little debate on the model and more on what appears to be size that seem to have fewer issues I selected the 60es8000. Everything appears to be perfect and the thx app hit it right on with a minor tweak after the update. I did get it from the worst buy but and was offered a warranty of which I had no previous experience with.
Advise me on where and which warranty would be the best bang for the buck? Through them or someone else?

Thanks for the info so far and dam this tv is awesome!
post #12793 of 16126
Turned my set on this morning and about a minute or two later i noticed the word "updating" in the corner... It did not effect the main firmware, most likely for the smart hub.. I have no idea what got updated?
post #12794 of 16126
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Originally Posted by flounder2132 View Post

I have been reading a lot over the last couple of weeks and after little debate on the model and more on what appears to be size that seem to have fewer issues I selected the 60es8000. Everything appears to be perfect and the thx app hit it right on with a minor tweak after the update. I did get it from the worst buy but and was offered a warranty of which I had no previous experience with.
Advise me on where and which warranty would be the best bang for the buck? Through them or someone else?

Thanks for the info so far and dam this tv is awesome!

Yes - I would agree that from everything I have read here and pictures posted, the 60" variant of this model family is not as cursed as the 65".

Cmay went through I believe 7 of the 65" panel with no luck.

Now both of us who like bigger panel sizes are waiting for the next model family from Samsung in the 65"....
post #12795 of 16126
Sony1717,

Even if the 65F8000 improves the banding issue to the point where it is barely noticeable on solid color screens, even the faintest of bands are magnified with soccer and hockey. If you watch a ton of soccer, you will be better served with a 60 inch model as anything 65 or larger from any brand will still have at least minimal banding which is a non issue with movies and tv shows, but still a distraction for those who watch a ton of hockey and soccer.

Did you try the 60es8000?
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

Turned my set on this morning and about a minute or two later i noticed the word "updating" in the corner... It did not effect the main firmware, most likely for the smart hub.. I have no idea what got updated?

+1, I saw this this morning, too, and saw that I still have 1047. Wasn't there a way to see what "dot" version you're on?
post #12797 of 16126
FW 2005 available via online download today (UK) strange as they've always dropped via USB updates first up until now
post #12798 of 16126
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Originally Posted by galonzo View Post

Not sure if you're into the genre, but the new Avengers bluray (and 3D) is reference quality, especially when Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) is being interrogated; very dark scene, you'll know whether or not your settings are crushing blacks.

Another one is The Dark Knight (I picked up The Dark Knight Rises, but haven't had a chance to view it yet); high contrast scenes like when the Batmobile is in that room full of lights. There are also scenes where the movie opens up out of letterbox(2.4:1) and into "IMAX" view (1.78:1) and fills your screen. Another movie that does this is the new Tron Legacy Bluray, however, this one is more known for showing off your audio.

Anyone else?

:edit: curious after posting this, I just read that Tron wasn't actually shot on IMAX like The Dark Knight, so those scenes aren't particularly reference quality, however, the 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio on those scenes does help wink.gif
Another area to check out is animation. Movies like Finding Nemo and Wreck it Ralph look stunning on this set. With animation turn Auto Motion Plus onto "Smooth" and prepare to pick your jaw up off the floor.
post #12799 of 16126
Gslonzo, yes...LOVE Avengers 2d-3d, Dark Knight and the aspect changes and ALL things Tron...

That said SkyFall to me is the king of detail with Hurt Lockerbad Queen. Dark Knight is the prince.

We are really in an era where we get amazing movies mastered incredibly!!!!
post #12800 of 16126
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Originally Posted by gamermwm View Post

1. You are correct in saying that in Standard mode Micro Dimming is always enabled and that in Movie Mode by default it is not. However enabling it in Movie mode is as easy as turning on Black Enhancer (a type of CE Dimming) and Dynamic Contrast on Low. This is according to a well placed rep that spoke with David K. from CNET when we all first discovered that Micro Dimming was disabled by default in Movie mode and he first posted his standard calibration

After a year of owning this tv, I I have a good idea what Micro Dimming is and I've seen the man behind the curtain so to speak. It's just CE Dimming and Dynamic Contrast in combination. Default Standard settings include Dynamic Contrast being on, and CE dimming is always on in that mode (much to the chagrin of some). Check out the CNET picture settings forum ES8000 calibration where David K. says what I just mentioned

Now that I know what it is, I wouldn't buy any Samsung set just because of the Micro Dimming. I possibly should've gone for an ES7500 60' rather than the ES8000' 55". I would have gotten more for my money's worth in real estate that's for sure. In trying to understand the difference picture wise - the only thing that I could dig up between the Micro Dimming Ultimate ES8000 and the Pro Dimming 7500 - is the contrast ratio of the tv's. Samsung's website lists only the Dynamic contrast ratio & claims the 8000 has a Dynamic contrast ratio of 30,000,000:1, while the 7500 has a Dynamic Contrast ratio of 25,000,000:1

Contrast Ratio is a measurement of this difference between the blackest black and the whitest white that the display can display. Dynamic Contrast Ratio is when the back light is adjusted dynamically for darker scenes to give you better black levels i.e. CE dimming. The processor inside the display adjusts the levels depending on the scene currently on the display. So this could actually explain why most of the people who have a problem with CE dimming are 7500 owners. The set isn't capable of the same Dynamic contrast ratio as the 8000 because the processor isn't the same or is limited vs. the one in the 8000

"Contrast ratio is the most important aspect of a TV's performance. More than any other single metric, a set's contrast ratio will be the most noticeable difference between two TVs". Contrast Ratio explained:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20066138-1/contrast-ratio-or-how-every-tv-manufacturer-lies-to-you/

Regardless of the marketing bull, this set is capable of providing one of the best pictures in the industry thanks to Samsung, even without Micro Dimming - and default movie mode will attest to that. I still think this is the best picture for picture LED on the market today. It may not have the black levels of the Sony full array local dimmers, but other than that it has that unparalled Samsung beauty & every day/ every way functionality - and I don't regret my purchase for a second

2. I use 10k's Movie Mode settings with black enhancer and dynamic contrast on Low (for the reasons i posted above - to enable micro dimming). If 10k or anyone can come anywhere close to the accuracy of the movie mode settings when they calibrate Standard, I may eventually move back over to Standard but probably not

Hope this helps,

-Mike

Thanks Mike, i really appreciate you taking the time to clarify.

has anyone experienced any of the oddity of green halo, ghosting trail effect on the ES8000? where during dark scenes any dark colors moving across any other medium-ish dark color will produce a trail of green blur. it's particularly the worst in movie mode. this was the main reason i bit the bullet and spent the extra $600 bucks and upgraded to the ES8000, as the ES6500 owners thread had me believe this is a common issue with the 60~65 inch ES6500 family. it's really too bad because that TV is really good, blacks are very black, colors are great, and no clouding or flash lighting whatsoever. sigh... all this TV buying had me going with anxiety. this was suppose to be a fun and rewarding experience, but over the past week i have been getting so little sleep and having so much anxiety.
Edited by howzz1854 - 2/25/13 at 10:19am
post #12801 of 16126
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Originally Posted by 10k View Post

Another area to check out is animation. Movies like Finding Nemo and Wreck it Ralph look stunning on this set. With animation turn Auto Motion Plus onto "Smooth" and prepare to pick your jaw up off the floor.

agreed, I've popped in on my kids watching How to Train Your Dragon or Up on our plasma and end up watching for a while in amazement, can't wait to give this a try on the ES, looks like the kids are getting Wreck it Ralph sooner!
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

Gslonzo, yes...LOVE Avengers 2d-3d, Dark Knight and the aspect changes and ALL things Tron...

That said SkyFall to me is the king of detail with Hurt Lockerbad Queen. Dark Knight is the prince.

We are really in an era where we get amazing movies mastered incredibly!!!!
Couldn't agree more, very fortunate!

FYI, a certain magazine's website (not sure how the mods are about linking to other sites here) has a blog that covers demo material. PM me for the link, or could someone give me the OK to post it here? After all, what good is our equipment without material to demo?
post #12802 of 16126
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Originally Posted by howzz1854 View Post

Thanks Mike, i really appreciate you taking the time to clarify.

has anyone experienced any of the oddity of green halo, ghosting trail effect on the ES6500? where during dark scenes any dark colors moving across any other medium-ish dark color will produce a trail of green blur. it's particularly the worst in movie mode. this was the main reason i bit the bullet and spent the extra $600 bucks and upgraded to the ES8000, as the ES6500 owners thread had me believe this is a common issue with the 60~65 inch ES6500 family. it's really too bad because that TV is really good, blacks are very black, colors are great, and no clouding or flash lighting whatsoever. sigh... all this TV buying had me going with anxiety. this was suppose to be a fun and rewarding experience, but over the past week i have been getting so little sleep and having so much anxiety.

I haven't heard of that issue with the higher end sets. Maybe the problem is limited to that specific range and possibly settings used. I understand your anxiety but you can rest well as long as you didn't buy a 65 incher. Check your uniformity when you first get the set, then test it again in a week or two and any flashlighting etc. should decrease

And think about it this way, a lot of the 2012 sets are up to 50% off retail right now, with bonuses. It's a great time to buy a high end tv, especially since if you have any issues with it and decide to take Samsung up on their warranty, they will likely upgrade you to the new F series free of cost. At least that's how I went from the D8000 to the ES8000 last year. It's a win win situation, congrats
post #12803 of 16126
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Originally Posted by galonzo View Post

Not sure if you're into the genre, but the new Avengers bluray (and 3D) is reference quality, especially when Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) is being interrogated; very dark scene, you'll know whether or not your settings are crushing blacks.

[II]
Love the Avengers 3D, it was the first 3D movie I bought and watched on it. Excellent.

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Originally Posted by 10k View Post

Another area to check out is animation. Movies like Finding Nemo and Wreck it Ralph look stunning on this set. With animation turn Auto Motion Plus onto "Smooth" and prepare to pick your jaw up off the floor.
So what's the difference between AMP Clear and AMP Smooth in terms of what you see on the screen? I've never changed that setting from Clear.

Also I appreciate Turboman and 10k and Jestered posting their recent settings changes. I found it interesting that 10k and Turbo's settings are pretty close. I like it when 2 people calibrate different panels and get similar settings. I also applaud 10k for at least partially recommending using Dynamic Conrast and Black Enhancer. I realize how those may make calibration a nightmare because they are a moving target, but I honestly believe (and it may be wishful thinking) that using these features is why I like Garnoch's Standard settings most of all so far. Again thanks to all, this is one of the best forums I've ever been on. (and did the mods really 86 Anthony?).
post #12804 of 16126
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Love the Avengers 3D, it was the first 3D movie I bought and watched on it. Excellent.
So what's the difference between AMP Clear and AMP Smooth in terms of what you see on the screen? I've never changed that setting from Clear.
If you look at "custom" you will see there are two options, I forget what they are called but its basically "judder reduction" and "smoothness". Judder reduction does magic to make 23.976fps content look smooth on a 60fps panel. Smoothness looks in between frames and creates additional frames, increasing the overall framerate of the content, up to 240fps I think?

In terms of visual effect, judder reduction should reduce the choppyness of slow panning shots while smoothness creates the "soap opera effect".

If I'm not mistaken, clear only has judder reduction on and no smoothness. "Smooth" has everything on to the max. I normally hate the visual effect of smooth, but it lends itself extremely well to animation.
post #12805 of 16126
I want to thank 10K for his settings. They look so good on my ES7500 55". The only changes I made was to raise the backlight to 10, Dyanamic Contract - Low, and black enhancer to 'On'.

I actually like black enhancer. It seems to make dark scenes just a bit brighter.

My TV looks so good now I don't want to check this thread anymore!!! I am worried I might find a reason to tinker more with the settings.

I also want to thank everyone else that has calibrated their sets and posted their settings.
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What is meant by the "soap opera effect"? Having not watched hardly any of them I don't get a visual when a read that phrase like I do when I read "red push" or "crushed blacks" .
post #12807 of 16126
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

What is meant by the "soap opera effect"? Having not watched hardly any of them I don't get a visual when a read that phrase like I do when I read "red push" or "crushed blacks" .

stick your AMP on smooth and take a look
post #12808 of 16126
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Originally Posted by gamermwm View Post

I haven't heard of that issue with the higher end sets. Maybe the problem is limited to that specific range and possibly settings used. I understand your anxiety but you can rest well as long as you didn't buy a 65 incher. Check your uniformity when you first get the set, then test it again in a week or two and any flashlighting etc. should decrease

And think about it this way, a lot of the 2012 sets are up to 50% off retail right now, with bonuses. It's a great time to buy a high end tv, especially since if you have any issues with it and decide to take Samsung up on their warranty, they will likely upgrade you to the new F series free of cost. At least that's how I went from the D8000 to the ES8000 last year. It's a win win situation, congrats

thank man.. buying TV these days are like playing russian roulette. it's not everyday you get a set with a near perfect screen uniformity. i actually almost pulled the trigger on a Panasonic GT50 or a Samsung PN60E7000 yesterday when i went back to Paul's TV and told them about the terrible green halo effect on my ES6500. it all came down to that my wife really liked the brightness of the LED TV's better. i just hope this will be the end of the road for me, i would hate to have to go back to Paul's again.

if what you say is true about Samsung's replacement policy, that does sort of assures me a little. look forward to join you guys and give you my feedback.

btw, i noticed in the online review of ES8000 there's an option called "Smart LED", that's not in the ES6500, what does it do?
Edited by howzz1854 - 2/25/13 at 12:22pm
post #12809 of 16126
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Originally Posted by flounder2132 View Post

I have been reading a lot over the last couple of weeks and after little debate on the model and more on what appears to be size that seem to have fewer issues I selected the 60es8000. Everything appears to be perfect and the thx app hit it right on with a minor tweak after the update. I did get it from the worst buy but and was offered a warranty of which I had no previous experience with.
Advise me on where and which warranty would be the best bang for the buck? Through them or someone else?

Thanks for the info so far and dam this tv is awesome!
if the warranty price is anywhere over $100, then get out and go to costco.com to buy the 3yr extended warranty (backed by squaretrade) for $100. you have until 60 days from purchased date to buy it. i was referred by garnoch in this thread that most of us buy that warranty instead of any others. btw, i think you'd need to be a costco member to buy this extended warranty. good luck.

costco link fyr:
http://www.costco.com/3-Years-(For-TVs-Over-%241%2c000).product.11680336.html
post #12810 of 16126
Actually, nope, don't need to be a costco member nor do you need to buy the TV from them (although non-members get charged like $6 more). Very sweet deal. No brainer really - and I never buy warranties. Right before I ran out of time, Anthony was having a lot of issues and relay being insistent that everyone should get it. I've glad I took his advice. As for him being 86ed, no he wasn't, but he did post he'd be laying low real soon because of going over seas.
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