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post #13801 of 16125
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Get away while you still can. I even saw some banding recently on an NBC golf telecast. I was supposedly the one with a 65" that didn't have any. Cmay's disease spreads. It's like the Samsung phones you touch together and stuff transfers between them.

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Howzzz... in all seriousness, don't worry about it. Take a look at some of these banding pics from earlier in this thread and you will realize how good yours actually is for an LED in general.....

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As previously mentioned.... I would consider yours a non issue. Relax and enjoy the TV. smile.gif
post #13802 of 16125
thanks guys... i feel better now. smile.gif
post #13803 of 16125
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Originally Posted by digimat View Post

Do you mean Plex? Plex works flawlessly on a mac.

Yes. Plex. My error.

Don't know why but it's not working for me. However, I didn't spend hours trying to figure it out. Now that TVMobili is working so well, I'm not likely going to bother with Plex.

One other thing I'd like to know, is there such a thing as wireless (bluetooth) audio output? What I'd like is to know if there's a way to use wireless headphones with this TV?
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I know there was some news yesterday on the Evo Kit, but today there seems to more specific info, especially for the US....

Coming in May for $299
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/20/4127552/samsung-smart-evolution-kit-hdtv-upgrade-ships-may-399

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-samsung-tvs-kate-upton-eli-manning-20130320,0,6508427.story
Edited by Garnoch - 3/20/13 at 11:51am
post #13805 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I know there was some news yesterday on the Evo Kit, but today there seems to more specific info, especially for the US....
Coming in May for $299
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/20/4127552/samsung-smart-evolution-kit-hdtv-upgrade-ships-may-399

Hypothetically..... If one of the Evo Kit's features is to restore the "edge enhancement" and "shadow detail" settings, would you be happy to have them back or mad that it's part of the package you have to pay for?
post #13806 of 16125
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Hypothetically..... If one of the Evo Kit's features is to restore the "edge enhancement" and "shadow detail" settings, would you be happy to have them back or mad that it's part of the package you have to pay for?

Eh, I'm pretty easy going so although I understand someone possibly being upset to pay for something that they skipped on our TVs, I look at it this way - I knew what I was buying and for the money I'm very happy with it as is. So I wouldn't be upset. Unfortunately, I don't expect features like that anyway, though I would pay $299 for them. I don't care about voice or motion so If we're still just talking about a better hub, that price is steep and I'd probably just spend $85-$99 on another Apple TV instead.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

eek.gif

Howzzz... in all seriousness, don't worry about it. Take a look at some of these banding pics from earlier in this thread and you will realize how good yours actually is for an LED in general.....

LL

LL

LL

As previously mentioned.... I would consider yours a non issue. Relax and enjoy the TV. smile.gif

WOW, some of those are horrible, never seen that kinda stuff before, that would drive me ape shitz
post #13808 of 16125
What did shadow detail even do? lower the gamma curves for dark content? raise the brightness?
post #13809 of 16125
OuggaBooga, no way I am buying an F anything! F that! LOL... I was just reporting on a walkthrough while shopping.

I am glad to see the Samsung design trend stay the course is all.

Hobbit and ZeroDark are amazing transfers.
post #13810 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I know there was some news yesterday on the Evo Kit, but today there seems to more specific info, especially for the US....

Coming in May for $299
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/20/4127552/samsung-smart-evolution-kit-hdtv-upgrade-ships-may-399

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-samsung-tvs-kate-upton-eli-manning-20130320,0,6508427.story

No real details & more vague info leading ppl to believe you'll get the same PQ as newer model TV's, just as i thought when buying this TV.
I feel decieved by samsung if all this evo kit does is "advance smart hub" features & thats all.
People are not that dumb that they can't connect their laptop,pc,smart phone, console to use those devices apps.
The more i keep hearing abouit this bloody SCAM called evo kit the more my blood boils

I find it funny how the canadian samsung site still has NO info on what FW 1047 does.
i am starting to get paranoid, maybe 1047 will automatically update it's self to 1048 the es(extreme ****)8000 PQ slayer update.
post #13811 of 16125
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Originally Posted by terry1hockeyfan View Post

arenam and mcat - I have the same problem and am awaiting a refund. They wouldn't send someone out to fix it, but they will send someone to pick it up. Oh well, I will buy another one likely and try to get the squaretrade warranty through costco, but don't think that is an option in Canada if the tv isn't purchased there? My set wasn't very bad initially, but has now become totally unwatchable. I am lucky to get 10 minutes before it goes color crazy and continuous reboot mode.

Same for me. It would initially happen once a day and then eventually it would happen every 5 minutes.
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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

So what happened? did you just explain the issue to them or emailed photos and they decided to refund rather than repair? how long did you have the set?

For me, I already had two service repairs that were in my file. I ordered both service repairs through the Samsung.com customer service website. So the first time I ordered service, I uploaded my receipt with purchase price, date, etc. Also I uploaded a video of the problem. So the 2nd time I filed a service request, they already had all of that information on the website. Then when I called in the third time to request a refund, they already had records that I had 2 service requests and also knew what the refund amount would be. If you go to this thread, you'll see the following:
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3) ECR's ground rules for TV service:

TV service is generally done on a 2-3 strike basis. If you get a TV repaired twice for minor repairs, and after that it is still not rectified, you can get ECR to do an exchange. If a major part is replaced once and the problem recurs (such as my case where the entire plasma panel was replaced) you are eligible for ECR intervention.

So, in my case, I had already had a "major part" replaced twice, so I qualified for ECR intervention. I believe ECR stands for something like Executive Customer Relations or something. They are basically the people to talk to if you want more than a simple or routine repair done. They have to authorize it.
post #13812 of 16125
1047 not viewable to me in the states. Weird. Not that I'd actually update to it.
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Out of curiosity is there a preferred place to purchase the extended warranty through? I know some have purchased from Costco with a Squaretrade warranty (regardless of where they bought the TV from). Some have bought through Samsung. Once I am ready to pull the trigger on a TV I want to make sure I have the best support and can get a refund for my troubles if they come up.

Thanks.
post #13814 of 16125
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Originally Posted by OugaBooga View Post

No real details & more vague info leading ppl to believe you'll get the same PQ as newer model TV's, just as i thought when buying this TV.
I feel decieved by samsung if all this evo kit does is "advance smart hub" features & thats all.
People are not that dumb that they can't connect their laptop,pc,smart phone, console to use those devices apps.
The more i keep hearing abouit this bloody SCAM called evo kit the more my blood boils

I find it funny how the canadian samsung site still has NO info on what FW 1047 does.
i am starting to get paranoid, maybe 1047 will automatically update it's self to 1048 the es(extreme ****)8000 PQ slayer update.

in my case my TV and receiver is connected to my HTPC, which does all the content interaction. i don't use smart hub at all. to me the TV is just a monitor. i'd much rather they come out with a kit that improves picture quality, like able to scan the canvas of the screen, and figure out what area is uneven and compensate for it. if they can do micro dimming based on software analyzing, i can only hope they can do the same for screen uniformity. spending $299 for smart hub upgrade to me is useless. i don't need a more powerful CPU.
post #13815 of 16125
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Originally Posted by howzz1854 View Post

in my case my TV and receiver is connected to my HTPC, which does all the content interaction. i don't use smart hub at all. to me the TV is just a monitor. i'd much rather they come out with a kit that improves picture quality, like able to scan the canvas of the screen, and figure out what area is uneven and compensate for it. if they can do micro dimming based on software analyzing, i can only hope they can do the same for screen uniformity. spending $299 for smart hub upgrade to me is useless. i don't need a more powerful CPU.

i lol when i see those quad core specs for the evo kit.
for 300$ i can get an excellent unlocked cpu MUCH faster/capable & 16gb of ram if i cross the border to western NY.
BTW, i am not trying to insult any1 here that's going to get it knowing full well what they're getting.
300$ for what ur getting & NO use of the onboard dual core to ME is a shamefull waste of my $$$ IMHO.
Blade, wierd that the US site doesn't have info either, been over a month since u can DL it right?
Edited by OugaBooga - 3/20/13 at 1:27pm
post #13816 of 16125
OugaBooga, you are right...4 to 6 weeks since a few 8000 bruthas updated to 1047. Strange.

Hey, I just wanna play with the big F's when they arrive in stores. I have no plans , no need, for another for 4 years unless my buddy here craps out on me.
post #13817 of 16125
So I guess most of us are in agreeance that $299 is a decent price compared to what a lot of you guys were expecting? I mean you could still get a PS3 or Xbox at that price so it's not a good deal per se, but better than what a lot of people were thinking. And besides, a game system is not going to make your tv function better as a whole either. The support for new video codecs, and better processing algorithms, not to mention the faster/better Smart Hub are all pluses. And if actual PQ is effected in a good way then there is that as well...
post #13818 of 16125
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

eek.gif

Howzzz... in all seriousness, don't worry about it. Take a look at some of these banding pics from earlier in this thread and you will realize how good yours actually is for an LED in general.....

LL

LL

LL

As previously mentioned.... I would consider yours a non issue. Relax and enjoy the TV. smile.gif

CMay - - gee, I don't see any banding on these pics. Are your sure it wasn't a reflection from your room - - albeit uniform? smile.gif

Actually, it looks like my second TV - - which was promptly returned.
post #13819 of 16125
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Originally Posted by gamermwm View Post

So I guess most of us are in agreeance that $299 is a decent price compared to what a lot of you guys were expecting? I mean you could still get a PS3 or Xbox at that price so it's not a good deal per se, but better than what a lot of people were thinking. And besides, a game system is not going to make your tv function better as a whole either. The support for new video codecs, and better processing algorithms, not to mention the faster/better Smart Hub are all pluses. And if actual PQ is effected in a good way then there is that as well...

So for those folks who have their TV's mounted (like mine) - - do you have to take it down from the wall or can you plug the Evo kit in, somehow, in the back port and find a way to affix to the wall?
post #13820 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I know there was some news yesterday on the Evo Kit, but today there seems to more specific info, especially for the US....

Coming in May for $299
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/20/4127552/samsung-smart-evolution-kit-hdtv-upgrade-ships-may-399

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-samsung-tvs-kate-upton-eli-manning-20130320,0,6508427.story

Thanks for the update..... I hoped the evolution kit would deliver more than just a quad core with more memory and a updated smart hub.

Sadly, I now think that's all where really going to get... Take it or leave it... No cinema black, and No other picture enhancements added to the picture settings menu.... I just have the feeling where all building false hope for what we want vs what where actually going to get. Time will tell. frown.gif
post #13821 of 16125
So here is the question. If you order a 60ES8000 and they sent you 55", you'll complain to make it right. What if you order a 60 and they sent you a 65 w/ vertical banding, what would you do?
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Originally Posted by OugaBooga View Post

300$ for what ur getting & NO use of the onboard dual core to ME is a shamefull waste of my $$$ IMHO.

That's not what I've read, but then again none of us know anything about what it's really going to do until it's released and we start using it. I personally think that anyone who purchased the ES8000 because of the evo kit, well, you only set yourself up for disappointment.

What I read is that the dual core processor is going to be running the GPU and the evo kits quad core is the CPU. Again, we won't know until it's actually been released.
Edited by Jestered - 3/20/13 at 5:56pm
post #13823 of 16125
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Originally Posted by parodielin View Post

So here is the question. If you order a 60ES8000 and they sent you 55", you'll complain to make it right. What if you order a 60 and they sent you a 65 w/ vertical banding, what would you do?

you were smart, you would sell the 65 and order another 60 smile.gif
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regarding the Evo kit; I didn't include that as a factor at all in my buying decision. I only hoped that it would bring picture quality improvements. Based on what I read and "intuition" I think it will be 100% hub, platform, apps, voice and motion and zero picture quality. Its a no-go for me unless I see hard evidence to the contrary. Not one article had even remotely hinted at picture quality.
post #13825 of 16125
Here is the banding from my MH02 panel. (UN65ES8000) I scheduled a service call, but am considering just returning it. I really don't know what to do, there are no other TV's on the market right now that will work for me.











post #13826 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

regarding the Evo kit; I didn't include that as a factor at all in my buying decision. I only hoped that it would bring picture quality improvements. Based on what I read and "intuition" I think it will be 100% hub, platform, apps, voice and motion and zero picture quality. Its a no-go for me unless I see hard evidence to the contrary. Not one article had even remotely hinted at picture quality.

You're more than likely correct in your assumption.

When I purchase something that cost that much money, I always make that decision based on what that item does at the time of purchase. There's no guarantees past that, so I don't make any buying decision on anything other than what it does at the time of purchase. The ES8000 was worth it for me with or without the evo-kit. It's good you had the same mind-set when making your buying decision.

Regarding PQ and the evo-kit... I can't figure out why anyone would think that is going to magically turn the TV into something any different than what it is now. The limitation here is the panel, not the evo-kit or anything else. The panel is only capable of so much and there's no evo-kit that can change that. My assumption is that any PQ improvements that are gained from the kit are going to be minimal and based on the higher processing power. What I mean by that is it's possible there will no longer be the studder in any of the AMP modes. It's going to be things like that that are going to improve PQ, not some magical kit that makes our current panels look like they're from the future. The evo-kit is basically like getting a new computer with a new badass graphics card, but you're still using your crappy old monitor from your last computer. Well, we can't upgrade the monitor/panel on our TVs, so that's where the limitation is. And before someone says that those things aren't PQ improvements... Yes they are, just not in the way that you were hoping they would be.

Oh, and Bladerunner, this wasn't directed at you personally. I was just responding to you with my thoughts on the whole thing. I think it's crazy how dramatic some people are about this thing. It's a "scam" and Samsung lied to and betrayed us??? Really?
post #13827 of 16125
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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

So what happened? did you just explain the issue to them or emailed photos and they decided to refund rather than repair? how long did you have the set?


I contacted them through the internet and explained my situation. I also sent them some video of the screen acting up as suggested by another member here. They tried to first get me to bring my tv in to Edmonton (3 hours away). I do not have a vehicle big enough nor do I really want to risk transporting it. I explained this and then they said they would try to find a repair center to come out. I told them I would prefer a replacement set as I love this tv, but they didn't think that would be possible. They then offered a refund after not being able to find anyone near me to come fix it. I agreed and asked them what about the tv and they said they would send someone to pick it up. Go figure!
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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

So what happened? did you just explain the issue to them or emailed photos and they decided to refund rather than repair? how long did you have the set?


Sorry for the repeat post!
post #13829 of 16125
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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

So what happened? did you just explain the issue to them or emailed photos and they decided to refund rather than repair? how long did you have the set?


Darn mouse!
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Jestered, I understand. The possible PQ benefit you describe sounds like a possibility. I'm not sure I'll spend the cash for that myself as I have never even considered studded judder an issue. I like your thinking though.

The PQ improvements I'd like to see revolve around ce dimming switchable in all modes, better color in standard mode and further reduced flashlighting. Obviously I'd wanna see cinema black "back" in the pic menu and fully functional.

I'm seeing articles lately showing cinema black and smart LEd were in the early run of the 7000 > models and removed by fw updates. Not that I wanna go down that path in detail cuz other consumers are.
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