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Originally Posted by Mavinwow View Post

Nice! Exchange, or a return and pay the difference?

ES price was £2500 a year ago, got matched and paid £2000. They're giving me £2000 back but the F is £2500 so £500 difference to pay. The good thing is they're giving me 30 days to find a match and will refund any difference. I've already found it for £2299 so that's £299 extra which I would have spent buying an Evo Kit anyway so it's all square by my reckoning smile.gif
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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

ES price was £2500 a year ago, got matched and paid £2000. They're giving me £2000 back but the F is £2500 so £500 difference to pay. The good thing is they're giving me 30 days to find a match and will refund any difference. I've already found it for £2299 so that's £299 extra which I would have spent buying an Evo Kit anyway so it's all square by my reckoning smile.gif

Good deal, basically got free rental for a year :P
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Anybody here got a quick fix for the little Samsung Logo Light at the bottom middle of the panel, that stays on all the time. Any way to set that to go off after awhile ? I know Black Tape would do the trick but I like it to light up when I'm turning the Display on, just not stay on all the time.
Thanks,
Glenee
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Originally Posted by Glenee View Post

Anybody here got a quick fix for the little Samsung Logo Light at the bottom middle of the panel, that stays on all the time. Any way to set that to go off after awhile ? I know Black Tape would do the trick but I like it to light up when I'm turning the Display on, just not stay on all the time.
Thanks,
Glenee

Menu --> System --> General --> Light Effect.

You can set it to always on, always off, only when on standby, and only when watching. I leave it on Standby.
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Originally Posted by Mavinwow View Post

Good deal, basically got free rental for a year :P

Yeah, I suppose you're right smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Mavinwow View Post

I have updated Movie settings that I like a lot better, and have actually been using over standard mode for the first time. Will try to update over the weekend.
As soon as you get um up let us know so we can try them. You never know which settings will be the money for our personal taste.
And once again thank you for your efforts for all of us.
Glen
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Thanks Mavinwow.
I've been looking for that little switch. I think I will try standby first.
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Originally Posted by Glenee View Post

Thanks Mavinwow.
I've been looking for that little switch. I think I will try standby first.

I like it that way, turns the light on when the TV is off. I find it distracting during actual viewing.
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So, my ES8000 is great, my Direct TV is great, my Denon AVR 1913 is great, all my game consoles look great... and my phone/tablet apps are cool. So why can't I turn my devices ON with any of these apps? That's the only thing forcing me to buy a Harmony remote at this point.
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Originally Posted by Echovolk View Post

So, my ES8000 is great, my Direct TV is great, my Denon AVR 1913 is great, all my game consoles look great... and my phone/tablet apps are cool. So why can't I turn my devices ON with any of these apps? That's the only thing forcing me to buy a Harmony remote at this point.
Because you have a TV, STB, 2 game consoles, BD player and AVR. That's why they make the Harmony dude, it's got to be good for something right? And you are that something!
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Originally Posted by Echovolk View Post

So, my ES8000 is great, my Direct TV is great, my Denon AVR 1913 is great, all my game consoles look great... and my phone/tablet apps are cool. So why can't I turn my devices ON with any of these apps? That's the only thing forcing me to buy a Harmony remote at this point.

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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Because you have a TV, STB, 2 game consoles, BD player and AVR. That's why they make the Harmony dude, it's got to be good for something right? And you are that something!

I personally don't like the Harmony remotes and use URC, but they are significantly more expensive. Either way, I agree with thebignewt that you need a universal remote, regardless of what brand, if you're wanting to control all that stuff from one place.
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Originally Posted by Jestered View Post


I personally don't like the Harmony remotes and use URC, but they are significantly more expensive. Either way, I agree with thebignewt that you need a universal remote, regardless of what brand, if you're wanting to control all that stuff from one place.
Hey Jestered, I have had a Harmony One Remote for years now and up until lately it has been my Remote of choice. Lately I have looked for a few items that I have wanted to control such as Yamaha YSP-4300 Sound Bar and on their website they don't have it or a couple of other items I would think would be a no brainer to have as a download to your remote. I like the Idea of just putting the piece of equipment I have and then doing a Resync and all is good. But if they are just going to have TV's, DVD Players,Avr's and the like and None of the other stuff that we need to control. I might switch.
Is the URC Data Base for equipment that much better, or is it just the operation of the remote.
I don't like remotes you have to sit down and teach it every command from another remote or enter 100's of codes.
In other words what makes the URC Better ?
Thanks,
Glen
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Originally Posted by Glenee View Post

Hey Jestered, I have had a Harmony One Remote for years now and up until lately it has been my Remote of choice. Lately I have looked for a few items that I have wanted to control such as Yamaha YSP-4300 Sound Bar and on their website they don't have it or a couple of other items I would think would be a no brainer to have as a download to your remote. I like the Idea of just putting the piece of equipment I have and then doing a Resync and all is good. But if they are just going to have TV's, DVD Players,Avr's and the like and None of the other stuff that we need to control. I might switch.
Is the URC Data Base for equipment that much better, or is it just the operation of the remote.
I don't like remotes you have to sit down and teach it every command from another remote or enter 100's of codes.
In other words what makes the URC Better ?
Thanks,
Glen

I bought a Harmony remote a few years back and absolutely hated it. The buttons were too small and too close together to really get a feel of where you were on the remote without looking at it. The deal breaker was the software. It was horrid in my opinion. Now, it's been some time since, so I'm sure the Harmony remotes and software have gotten better, but once I got my first URC I was hooked. I've had 4 URC remotes since then and my current one (MX-450) I've had for about 3 years now. I normally would have upgraded to a newer model by now, but this remote is just awesome and there's nothing about it that I don't like. I have been eyeing the new ones lately and there's one that is basically like my current one, but it's got wifi and that is intriguing me a little. You can see which remote I'm currently using HERE.

The URC remotes are really well built and feel extremely solid in your hand. You definitely feel like you're holding something that is quality with these remotes. The buttons are just big enough and spaced perfectly that I never really need to look at the remote to get around and do what I want to do. A lot of the URC remotes are software based and have to be set up using a computer. The software isn't that great, but better than what I remember about the Harmony software from the older remote I bought. My URC remote I have now is programmed in the remote and doesn't require software. I like that a lot. The set up wizard is very well done and easy to get through. Even the more complicated stuff is pretty simple to accomplish. URC is kind of known for being a top-of-the-line remote and it's not by mistake or accident. Take a look at the stuff they have on their website. I paid $500 for my current remote, so be prepared to part with some $$$ if you decide to get one, but it was worth it to me.

The IR code database is upgradeable through software, so you don't have to worry about not having the latest codes for the latest products. I don't have a soundbar, so I'm not sure if it has those codes, but I'd assume it does.

If anyone is interested, the one I'm eyeballing is HERE. The more I check that one out, the more I realize the wife is about to be pretty upset.
Edited by Jestered - 4/5/13 at 4:05pm
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+1, been using the URC MX-810 for about 5 years now, haven't really had a need to upgrade yet
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Originally Posted by Jestered View Post


I personally don't like the Harmony remotes and use URC, but they are significantly more expensive. Either way, I agree with thebignewt that you need a universal remote, regardless of what brand, if you're wanting to control all that stuff from one place.

I've got a harmony one and it's fantastic, I'm not saying it's the best universal remote there is but it replaces about 5 or 6 of mine, I'd be lost without it
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Originally Posted by galonzo View Post

+1, been using the URC MX-810 for about 5 years now, haven't really had a need to upgrade yet

Nice remote! That was the last one I had. It's in the bedroom now. I didn't even have a reason for upgrading from that one when I got the MX-450. Both great remotes! That dang MX-5000 is really starting to tempt me though.
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MMakoto, you just need to perform the update again via wifi, full reset and you should be good.

Arenaman, my HarmonyOne has been great. Buttons much larger than the prior model with those mini chiklets for buttons.

Bignewt, i loved 3d Wreck it Ralph and had no issues with my purchased disc. Flashlight is more prevalent in 3d for me as well. Not a big issue.
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Im seriously debating getting a 55" ES8000 off of Amazon before they are all gone, since they seem to be drying up locally...

But i just cant get over all of the complaints on Amazon about it, there seem to be a ton of people with dead pixels, bands of pixels, really bad ghosting, etc...granted i know that typically the only people who take the time to review are those that arent happy...so a vast majority likely are fine..

Is it really as bad as they make it sound?
Edited by arsenic0 - 4/5/13 at 7:54pm
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Arsenic,
Some of the differences in buying a Display from Amazon versus Local Best Buy etc. Amazon usually lower price and No Tax. The drawbacks are Time. If you have a problem it will take longer to exchange set versus locally (i.e.) Shipping Damage, DOA Unit and the likes which can happen with anything. If it's a new unit in a box there will be no difference in your set versus something bought locally. Watch out for used on Amazon ! They must disclose if it's new in a box. My set has some clouding and Flashlight issues but I can't see it when I'm watching it. So it's of no concern to me. If it was Viewable when watching, my set would be going back just like others have done and rightfully so. That's just the technology. Let me tell you that they are light years ahead of what they used to be in this area. All displays have drawbacks and I do mean all of them. None of them are without issues. The Best thing to do is go to a local store that has some LCD/LED Displays and look at them see if this technology is something you like and will make you Happy. Samsung is no worse and in someplaces better at certain things with this technology.
Bottom line is that the Display you buy from Amazon will be just as good as the display you will purchase locally.
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Arsenic0, Glenee is right. Every panel has its drawbacks. IMHO after extensive comparison when i shopped in May 2012, the es8000 was simply the clearest, cleanest, sharpest most detailed display for use in any lighting conditions overall. In pitch black rooms some will prefer plasma but those conditions itself wreak havoc on your own pupils so i never watch that way.

The only weakness for me is the very quick flashes of flashight effect however this is so quick and fleeting that its easily tolerable. I have not seen a full array backlit lcd with a more engaging depth of picture so for me, the es8000 fanboy, i highly recommend buying this now.

So if i see a flashlight effect during .002% of my viewing i don't care...plasma on the other hand is a panel type that i don't wanna watch 99% of the time.

The es8000 IMHO delivers the "like being there" experience more than any other display i have ever seen for the money or even considerably more money.

I do not use it for Smart features and never intended too as i think that invites "dumb" things to happen. My bluray player does all the heavy lifting.

I have a hunch that the majority of es8000 owners are blown away happy. I have never walked into a house or a store yet that has a tv on and is showing a better quality picture than what is playing in my house.

Sometimes i feel guilty cuz i love this thread yet i have not had the negative experience some posters have had so i can only chime in with positive stuff. Thats why i jag myself with the fanboy label at times.

Shop around, know there is no perfect panel, have your eyes wide open and realistic expectations set.

All that said i recommend slow caution when updating firmware...i think this applies to many tv's and various manufacturers. Just observe from the threads what you see about the fw updates. I sat on my original fw for 7 months and avoided updating on a half dozen firmware's before i saw what i judged was credible feedback on a particular firmware. I updated , did a full system reset and voila...i saw benefits.

Just my 2cents...
Edited by Bladerunner1959 - 4/6/13 at 7:14am
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The ES800 has far exceeded my expectations for the price that I paid about a Month Ago. I am one of the owners that did not expect perfect and got so much more, So you can color me HAPPY, Even with the small amount of Clouding and Flashlighting that I have. But I DIDN'T expect perfect and I DIDN'T get it. In my case I got more that I expected and that's a good thing.
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I join you in Happy Dance... Far exceeded my expectations even at the net 2700 i paid last year...after pricing adjustments and the soundbar/blutooth sub set that i use...love it.

I remember looking closely at the Elite and thinking that i might have still picked the 8000 if they were close in price and...it was an easy pick over the 70" sharp quattron. LG and Sony were good, but not as engaging. In the end my second and third place choices were the sammy 7000 and 6000...
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I presently own a Pioneer Kuro Plasma, a Sony XBR LED, a Samsung es8000 LED, and the Sharp Elite 70".
There are things that each of them do better than the other, not one of them is the whole cup of Tea.
I will Say my least Favorite of the bunch is the Sony.
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Originally Posted by arsenic0 View Post

Im seriously debating getting a 55" ES8000 off of Amazon before they are all gone, since they seem to be drying up locally...

But i just cant get over all of the complaints on Amazon about it, there seem to be a ton of people with dead pixels, bands of pixels, really bad ghosting, etc...granted i know that typically the only people who take the time to review are those that arent happy...so a vast majority likely are fine..

Is it really as bad as they make it sound?

I presume there is a "panel lottery" aspect to any purchase of these sets, though the 60" and lower seem to generally display less issues than the 65" models. Eagle's experience is the one experience with a smaller set (46" I think) that I really recall from this lengthy thread that had some pretty serious issues. I think sharkcohen had issues as well in a 55 that caused him to return it.

I bought a 55ES8000 back in August and have been extremely satisfied. If I really look hard, on specific static images, I can sometimes detect the faintest signs of a little banding. I have never seen any in real content even when hunting for it, and I watch a lot of soccer and some golf every so often (not a hockey watcher), and watched a lot of football in the fall. Lucky with the panel or otherwise, I have little to no clouding, no known dead or stuck pixels (haven't checked since I got the set and nothing visible) and can occassionally detect flashlighting briefly in a dark moment watching in a dark room when watching in 3D (with the backlight cranked up). Satisfied owner. I think you just need to go into it (the purchase) with the realization that there is always a chance of issues with any purchase and be prepared to encounter one (but fingers crossed you don't), and be aware that the technology itself will have some drawbacks.

On a related note, I've been running in 10K's movie mode settings for a while now, and haven't flipped back to standard mode at all. Think I am completely converted to movie. Thanks 10K and all the other calibrators who have shared their time and effort with the rest of us -- many, many thanks!
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This is really what it's all about, it's buying something and then Thanks to people like 10k and Mavinwow and commited people who have the knowledge and drive to get that last little bit of performance out of our displays. I can hardly wait to see Mavinwow's new settings and try them on my set to see if they are what I like to see. it is all about personal preference, but there are things that we as general consumers can't do ourselves, and thanks to gentlemen like these guys and other owners. We get to see our display's perform even better than what we paid for, and Ladies and Gentlemen that's where the real Value lies.
Thanks Again to All who have contributed to my enjoyment.
Glen
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Originally Posted by Glenee View Post

I presently own a Pioneer Kuro Plasma, a Sony XBR LED, a Samsung es8000 LED, and the Sharp Elite 70".
There are things that each of them do better than the other, not one of them is the whole cup of Tea.
I will Say my least Favorite of the bunch is the Sony.

Where's the projector? You seem to have everything else covered! smile.gif

Great comment about "not one of them is the whole cup of Tea." So true. Everything has its tradeoffs.

I'm somewhat surprised (and pleased, quite frankly) that you didn't rate the Sony XBR (950?) higher than the Sammy ES8000. Da Rizz would be going bonkers over on the Sony thread. And I thought the Sharp Elite 70" looked very elegant in the showroom when I first saw it. Then, I saw the price.....next, please!

I have the 65" ES8000 - - and yes, there is minimal banding. But that's really it - - complaint wise. The PQ is outstanding - - the sharpest, clearest, most vivid TV I have ever had the pleasure to watch. I mean, scary clear - - like looking out a window. I've never had that experience before. From Candy Crowley's craters to every detail and contour on someone's face - - an incredible picture.

Like the story I shared before - - I had a good friend over to look at my Sammy set awhile back and I was flipping through the stations. Our local news broadcast came on and my friend has a crush on one of the anchors. STOP - he said. Let me watch her. He was in love, or so to speak with this TV diva. Once he saw her on my Sammy set, pits and all, he said to me - - "I'm not in love anymore!" True story.

Best - Rico
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post


I have the 65" ES8000 - - and yes, there is minimal banding. But that's really it - - complaint wise. The PQ is outstanding - - the sharpest, clearest, most vivid TV I have ever had the pleasure to watch. I mean, scary clear - - like looking out a window. I've never had that experience before. From Candy Crowley's craters to every detail and contour on someone's face - - an incredible picture.

Best - Rico

Absolutely! I also have the 65" and am way passed trying to defend the 65" ES8000. You see it all the time in this thread that the 65" is THE bad TV in the ES8000 lineup. I can't agree with that because my TV is damn near perfect. Even the banding is extremely faint on my TV and almost never seen. I had family over for Easter and my brother asked me if there was anything I didn't like about the TV because he's having a house built right now and is upgrading all his A/V equipment. I was telling him about banding and he wanted to see what I was talking about. I tried to find something on TV to show him, but simply couldn't find anything. Actually there was one commercial where I noticed it a little bit, but he said he couldn't see what I was talking about. I didn't do any exchanges or returns. No panel replacements or anything like that. I just bought it and have been loving it ever since.

Watching the Louisville vs. Wichita State game now. Amazing PQ!
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Originally Posted by Jestered View Post

Absolutely! I also have the 65" and am way passed trying to defend the 65" ES8000. You see it all the time in this thread that the 65" is THE bad TV in the ES8000 lineup. I can't agree with that because my TV is damn near perfect. Even the banding is extremely faint on my TV and almost never seen. I had family over for Easter and my brother asked me if there was anything I didn't like about the TV because he's having a house built right now and is upgrading all his A/V equipment. I was telling him about banding and he wanted to see what I was talking about. I tried to find something on TV to show him, but simply couldn't find anything. Actually there was one commercial where I noticed it a little bit, but he said he couldn't see what I was talking about. I didn't do any exchanges or returns. No panel replacements or anything like that. I just bought it and have been loving it ever since.

Watching the Louisville vs. Wichita State game now. Amazing PQ!

The problem is although both you, Rico and BigNewt managed to get 65s with minimal banding, by and large the majority of forum members who visited this thread were not as fortunate. So, you can agree or disagree all you want, the bottom line is that more owners/former owners of the 65 had unacceptable banding than keepers with minimal banding, which in my book makes the 65 THE bad TV in the ES8000 lineup.
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Even fanboy here is a defender of the es65". Although i have a 60", in a heartbeat i would take a 65" with mild banding over all the other tv's out there. The floor model 65 at my nearest BB is amazing.

I have only seen 4 65" models at stores and none had banding severe enough to scare me away.
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

Even fanboy here is a defender of the es65". Although i have a 60", in a heartbeat i would take a 65" with mild banding over all the other tv's out there. The floor model 65 at my nearest BB is amazing.

If you lucky enough to get a 65" with minimal (read: not noticeable) banding it IS an outstanding panel.

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