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10k - Is it normal for a TV in movie mode to have a contrast set at 100 and then in standard mode have it down to 70? Does normal mode really have that much different processing going on? Seems like a very large difference between the two. I know nothing about calibations so I am not questioning anything you calibrated but more curious why it would be so different.
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Originally Posted by howzz1854 View Post

so i guess what i am asking is, do you get the same black luminance level at an arbitrary backlight level (8, 10, 11 or whatever number), pre and post calibration.
I dont know what the default settings are but if default brightness is 45 or below you will get the same black light level as you start to crush blacks at that point. If default is above 45 then default settings will have brighter blacks.
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

10k - Is it normal for a TV in movie mode to have a contrast set at 100 and then in standard mode have it down to 70? Does normal mode really have that much different processing going on? Seems like a very large difference between the two. I know nothing about calibations so I am not questioning anything you calibrated but more curious why it would be so different.
I dont think the modes are comparable in terms of looking at numbers in Standard mode vs Movie mode. Who knows what is going on behind the scenes :/
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Originally Posted by 10k View Post

I dont know what the default settings are but if default brightness is 45 or below you will get the same black light level as you start to crush blacks at that point. If default is above 45 then default settings will have brighter blacks.

yes, default is 45. i guess what i was trying to confirm is that if you have measured with the calibration meter to confirm that post calibrated level is the same as pre-calibrated level. again the level value can be arbitrary, for example .08 according to last year's review, but as long as it's consistant pre/post calibration. since calibration involves raise RGB values, and by raising all three, you're essentially raising the black level. for someone who is particularly anal about having the best black level, i am just curious if you have taken any measurements that's all. smile.gif
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btw, just found out from the F8000 thread that this year's F8000 model does have a feature that allows user full control of enable/disable micro dimming outside of standard mode. it's an option called "Smart LED". that means full control of micro dimming in movie mode! eek.gif

now the question is if the Evo kil will allow this feature for the ES7500/8000 models. if so, there just might be some hope for that damn thing.
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Originally Posted by darcman View Post

In my opinion the guy Anthony5362 who wrote a review on the Evo Kit is a total dipsh-t. The arse writes a review on something that he doesnt even own or hasnt even seen.
I really dont care what samsung wants to call the new kit. If the kit improves picture quality thats great, if it doesnt who cares. I paid a couple grand for my tv so really whats a few hundred more.
The new smart hub looks pretty cool. so we are going to get that, more memory, a better processor, and an improved remote. So basically it will make our tvs better all around. Isnt better good. Whats all the whinning about. I really really like my tv and am not sorry I bought it one bit. I dont care if I can turn on my tv on by waving at it or talking to it, I bought it because it has great picture quality.
Some people are just haters and are never happy with anything. My advice to them is sell your tv and move on.

I'm with you 100% Darcman. Who wouldn't want to pay a few hundred dollars to unlock features your TV is already capable of as well as a spiffy new smart hub that will make life so much better cause you can now sort and organize everything on your TV so much faster! Thank you Samsung for realizing that people like Darcman and I will gladly pay money for firmware updates that other companies do for free! Does anyone have an address for Sony so I can send them some money because I forgot to pay for when they added 3D, DTS HDMA, and Dolby True HD support via firmware updates. Lets not forget Oppo either. Need to send them some extra cash for their countless firmware updates that improve performance and functionality as well. biggrin.gif
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Smart LED has been around for awhile. I had it on my 2011 D8000 which I exchanged because of vertical banding for this tv. I would definitely say it was effective on the D8000 as was the Cinema Black option. But after reading the manual for the new Evolution Kit, my impression* was that it pretty much ruled out the possibility of a Cinema Black software option thru the new kit - but didn't seem to rule out the possibility of Smart LED. I'd be pleasantly suprised if they implement Smart LED on this set, which has been an option pertaining to the hardware local dimming thus far, but they could make everyone happy and make it a software only option to enable/disable micro dimming on this set

*purely conjecture
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Cmay91472, I just sent you my PayPal credentials. Please pay everyone mentioned above on my behalf.

In addition,please send LG, Panasonic and Sharp a $450.00 deposit each for future firmware support on tv's i may possibly purchase in my life.

This is a value-rich environment. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

I'm with you 100% Darcman. Who wouldn't want to pay a few hundred dollars to unlock features your TV is already capable of as well as a spiffy new smart hub that will make life so much better cause you can now sort and organize everything on your TV so much faster! Thank you Samsung for realizing that people like Darcman and I will gladly pay money for firmware updates that other companies do for free! Does anyone have an address for Sony so I can send them some money because I forgot to pay for when they added 3D, DTS HDMA, and Dolby True HD support via firmware updates. Lets not forget Oppo either. Need to send them some extra cash for their countless firmware updates that improve performance and functionality as well. biggrin.gif
I guess there is 2 sides to this story. You do not need to purchase the evo kit and no one is forcing it down your throat. Better to have options then none at all if you so choose to update certain features. Can these changes that the EVO kit are making be done in a software update, it sure can. Will it be. No.

When most other companies make put out a new model with some new features or a newly designed smart hub they do not update older models. You will need to but a new model if you want the new smart features. At least for people that like that stuff they can update it on their Sammy. If not, don't. Will I, nope. Not at $300. If the price drops waaaaaay down I might think about it. But remember, while this kit might not bring anything ground breaking this year there are still more years to come so who knows what it will bring. It is only the first year it is in use so maybe in 3 years it might be worth upgrading to you.
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Eric3316, there is a load of marketing and sales-pitch based on the Evo kit that "we" have processed that influenced many in a buying decision. The kit was "promised" to deliver improved picture quality as well ad functionality. That now appears to be a quite diluted scenario.

I think we all know that no one is forced to buy the Evo (now renamed) kit, thats not the issue.

Listen, I am an es8000 fanboy, i love my tv, it is one of the 3 or 4 best panels on the market however....there are support and marketing issues that Samsung can and should be held accountable too.
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

Eric3316, there is a load of marketing and sales-pitch based on the Evo kit that "we" have processed that influenced many in a buying decision. The kit was "promised" to deliver improved picture quality as well ad functionality. That now appears to be a quite diluted scenario.

I think we all know that no one is forced to buy the Evo (now renamed) kit, thats not the issue.

Listen, I am an es8000 fanboy, i love my tv, it is one of the 3 or 4 best panels on the market however....there are support and marketing issues that Samsung can and should be held accountable too.
That is a whole other subject and agree with you 100% if it was marketed as something that would improve pq and used as a sales pitch to sell 2012 models. I also have come to realize these companies could not care less about it's customers. Unless something reaches the masses through media or some other large scale of communication there is just not enough folks probably to make noise about this that it would even make any difference.

I would love to be wrong though and see pq improvements through the evo kit. I just can't believe the price they are charging for an upgraded smart GUI.
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

That is a whole other subject and agree with you 100% if it was marketed as something that would improve pq and used as a sales pitch to sell 2012 models. I also have come to realize these companies could not care less about it's customers. Unless something reaches the masses through media or some other large scale of communication there is just not enough folks probably to make noise about this that it would even make any difference.

I would love to be wrong though and see pq improvements through the evo kit. I just can't believe the price they are charging for an upgraded smart GUI.

Exactly! I hope my pessimism is wrong and that i'm rewarded for my buying decision with the opportunity to buy a "Smart Evo" kit that is proven to improve pic quality...but I am skeptical about that truly ever happening with the kit. My eyes and mind are wide open.

I didnt spend my money based on the sales pitch about Evo. I stored that information as a future FYI.

I do all the SmartHub "heavy lifting" from my sammy bluray player so that has taken the pressure off the tv for those duties...but I think we know about the possibilities of what can be added and improved (as well as broken or taken away) with firmware updates. Thats why i'm always extremely protective about FW updating.

I go back to when I bought my 2nd generation Samsung bluray player, the bdp-1200; it was touted as having an amazing dvd pic because of the interlace/Faroudja chip inside. THEN...i ran the first update available to me and NOTICEABLY , my once amazing dvd pic quality had been disabled to a truly inferior lifeless and washed out dvd pic. Does that mean squat now? no...but back then, early in the bluray era , dvd pic quality was much more critical. All subsequent fw updates to the 1200 NEVER restored the strenght of the dvd pic and Faroudja chip processing.

I dont try to be overly techno speak here but I know my experience with these topics is highly underrated by some. I dont give a %$#@ about that! LOL biggrin.gif

Still, people may laugh cuz i have a Toshiba hdDVD player hooked (i have seriously received disparriaging remarks about having hdvdvd) ...why laugh at me? The player is built like a brick and processes standard DVD better than any bluray player i have had during 3 bluray player upgrades after the 1200.

The Tosh hdDVD player easily produces a dvd pic that is brighter, sharper, more detailed and with deeper color than 4 bluray players I have had.

Yea, I have a handfull of hdDVDs that i got cheap when the "war" was over, the player cost me 50 bucks...what a steal, but what an advantage to have if ya dont wannna spend 500 on the OPPO. If ya never saw dvd played back on a Toshiba hdDVD player ya just dont know what yer missing for that " legacy " dvd collection of which i still have 400 plus of. ......but i digress... smile.gif
Edited by Bladerunner1959 - 5/14/13 at 5:57am
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LOL, & the warz are erupting as we approach D-day May 28, that damn evil kit is taking sooooooo long to get here.
I stopped bashing the evo kit TILL i see reviews, you never know, it might actually be worth it, some1 might see some ways to "unlock" GOODIES through it.
If there aren't Any GOODIES or enhanced PQ then i WILL be the 1st to bash the sheit out of it..........UNLESS it's like $100 then the price is right.
Right now @ $300 suggested price i think it's a slap in the face for a upgraded smart GUI + new remote control.

This set is great for gaming but there are a few things i'd like unlocked that isn't while in PC mode.
I have a feeling there's gonna be some kinda cool HACK for the evo kit in the future, surely i'am not the ONLY 1 to be thinking this. biggrin.gif

Lastly forgot to say that Even if we complain about samsung lying to ppl saying it will do added PQ with the evo kit last yr it wouldn't help.
Most ppl won't afford the 8000 series so there's few of us to start with.
I doubt even the few of us that would complain would make little effect to scammy.
If this evo kit was sold on ALL models then i SURELY CAN See a massive lawsuit for false advertising.
SOOOOOo the ONLY smart part in this smart evil kit is scamsungs lawyers/advertising dept advising on the last minute name change.
Edited by OugaBooga - 5/14/13 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by OugaBooga View Post

LOL, & the warz are erupting as we approach D-day May 28, that damn evil kit is taking sooooooo long to get here.
I stopped bashing the evo kit TILL i see reviews, you never know, it might actually be worth it, some1 might see some ways to "unlock" GOODIES through it.
If there aren't Any GOODIES or enhanced PQ then i WILL be the 1st to bash the sheit out of it..........UNLESS it's like $100 then the price is right.
Right now @ $300 suggested price i think it's a slap in the face for a upgraded smart GUI + new remote control.

This set is great for gaming but there are a few things i'd like unlocked that isn't while in PC mode.
I have a feeling there's gonna be some kinda cool HACK for the evo kit in the future, surely i'am not the ONLY 1 to be thinking this. biggrin.gif

you should know. you and i are both active in the EVO kit thread. i think i brought up a class action law suit suggestion. lol
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post


Still, people may laugh cuz i have a Toshiba hdDVD player hooked (i have seriously received disparriaging remarks about having hdvdvd) ...why laugh at me? The player is built like a brick and processes standard DVD better than any bluray player i have had during 3 bluray player upgrades after the 1200.

The Tosh hdDVD player easily produces a dvd pic that is brighter, sharper, more detailed and with deeper color than 4 bluray players I have had.

Yea, I have a handfull of hdDVDs that i got cheap when the "war" was over, the player cost me 50 bucks...what a steal, but what an advantage to have if ya dont wannna spend 500 on the OPPO. If ya never saw dvd played back on a Toshiba hdDVD player ya just dont know what yer missing for that " legacy " dvd collection of which i still have 400 plus of. ......but i digress... smile.gif

I'm totally with you on that. I bought the Toshiba A30 when it first came out and loved that thing. It took days for it to boot up, but once it got going that thing was awesome! I got rid of it when the war was lost and got my PS3 for the Bluray lifting.

Bladerunner, it's been a while since I had my Toshiba HDDVD player, so I want to ask your opinion on something. When I got my PS3 I bought the same Bluray movies that I had in HDDVD and there was a noticeable difference in which produced a better picture. The HDDVD format produced a noticeably better picture than the Bluray format did at that time. I was not happy about that because I knew that HDDVD was going away and it clearly had a better HD picture over Bluray. Now it's been a while, and Bluray has gotten better, but I'm curious if you had the same opinion.
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Originally Posted by Jestered View Post

I'm totally with you on that. I bought the Toshiba A30 when it first came out and loved that thing. It took days for it to boot up, but once it got going that thing was awesome! I got rid of it when the war was lost and got my PS3 for the Bluray lifting.

Bladerunner, it's been a while since I had my Toshiba HDDVD player, so I want to ask your opinion on something. When I got my PS3 I bought the same Bluray movies that I had in HDDVD and there was a noticeable difference in which produced a better picture. The HDDVD format produced a noticeably better picture than the Bluray format did at that time. I was not happy about that because I knew that HDDVD was going away and it clearly had a better HD picture over Bluray. Now it's been a while, and Bluray has gotten better, but I'm curious if you had the same opinion.
It isn't really the disc, it comes down to what codec was used for that specific release. Bluray and HDDVD both support h264 and AVCHD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_high_definition_optical_disc_formats). I guess bluray had slightly higher capacity so maybe some bluray releases used a higher bitrate than the corresponding HDDVD release.

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From the wiki, The choice of video compression technology (codec) complicates any comparison of the formats. Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD both support the same three video compression standards: MPEG-2, VC-1 and AVC, each of which exhibits different bitrate/noise-ratio curves, visual impairments/artifacts, and encoder maturity. Initial Blu-ray Disc titles often used MPEG-2 video, which requires the highest average bitrate and thus the most space, to match the picture quality of the other two video codecs. As of July 2008 over 70% of Blu-ray Disc titles have been authored with the newer compression standards: AVC and VC-1.[5] HD DVD titles have used VC-1 and AVC almost exclusively since the format's introduction. Warner Bros., which used to release movies in both formats prior to June 1, 2007, often used the same encode (with VC-1 codec) for both Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD, with identical results. In contrast, Paramount used different encodings: initially MPEG-2 for early Blu-ray Disc releases, VC-1 for early HD DVD releases, and eventually AVC for both formats.

Whilst the two formats support similar audio codecs, their usage varies. Most titles released on the Blu-ray format include Dolby Digital tracks for each language in the region, a DTS-HD Master Audio track for all 20th Century Fox and Sony Pictures and many upcoming Universal titles, Dolby TrueHD for Disney and Sony Pictures and some Paramount and Warner titles, and for many Blu-ray titles a Linear PCM track for the primary language.[5] On the other hand, most titles released on the HD DVD format include Dolby Digital Plus tracks for each language in the region, and some also include a Dolby TrueHD track for the primary language.
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

Exactly! I hope my pessimism is wrong and that i'm rewarded for my buying decision with the opportunity to buy a "Smart Evo" kit that is proven to improve pic quality...but I am skeptical about that truly ever happening with the kit. My eyes and mind are wide open.

I didnt spend my money based on the sales pitch about Evo. I stored that information as a future FYI.

I do all the SmartHub "heavy lifting" from my sammy bluray player so that has taken the pressure off the tv for those duties...but I think we know about the possibilities of what can be added and improved (as well as broken or taken away) with firmware updates. Thats why i'm always extremely protective about FW updating.

I go back to when I bought my 2nd generation Samsung bluray player, the bdp-1200; it was touted as having an amazing dvd pic because of the interlace/Faroudja chip inside. THEN...i ran the first update available to me and NOTICEABLY , my once amazing dvd pic quality had been disabled to a truly inferior lifeless and washed out dvd pic. Does that mean squat now? no...but back then, early in the bluray era , dvd pic quality was much more critical. All subsequent fw updates to the 1200 NEVER restored the strenght of the dvd pic and Faroudja chip processing.

I dont try to be overly techno speak here but I know my experience with these topics is highly underrated by some. I dont give a %$#@ about that! LOL biggrin.gif

Still, people may laugh cuz i have a Toshiba hdDVD player hooked (i have seriously received disparriaging remarks about having hdvdvd) ...why laugh at me? The player is built like a brick and processes standard DVD better than any bluray player i have had during 3 bluray player upgrades after the 1200.

The Tosh hdDVD player easily produces a dvd pic that is brighter, sharper, more detailed and with deeper color than 4 bluray players I have had.

Yea, I have a handfull of hdDVDs that i got cheap when the "war" was over, the player cost me 50 bucks...what a steal, but what an advantage to have if ya dont wannna spend 500 on the OPPO. If ya never saw dvd played back on a Toshiba hdDVD player ya just dont know what yer missing for that " legacy " dvd collection of which i still have 400 plus of. ......but i digress... smile.gif


My HD DVD player looks great too... what new releases you buy?
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Originally Posted by howzz1854 View Post

you should know. you and i are both active in the EVO kit thread. i think i brought up a class action law suit suggestion. lol
yup, you sure did & i agree but there are too few of US, most ppl just suck it back & twiddle their thumbs.

Us 7500/8000 buyers are a RARE breed, i am betting we all have similar buying habits when it comes to electonics/gadgets.
I will buy the best for the least amount & willing to spend more if needed.
I really wanna explode all over the evil kit but i'll wait till may 28-31 when i expect some reviews.
REALLY REALLY Hoping some1 hacks the sheit outta this evo kit to unlock Everything ! ! ! biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by howzz1854 View Post

btw, just found out from the F8000 thread that this year's F8000 model does have a feature that allows user full control of enable/disable micro dimming outside of standard mode. it's an option called "Smart LED". that means full control of micro dimming in movie mode! eek.gif

now the question is if the Evo kil will allow this feature for the ES7500/8000 models. if so, there just might be some hope for that damn thing.
IMO Samsung had better enable/improve their go to feature (Microdimming) in Movie mode if they want to sell that Evo kit at all. I don't think a jazzed up SmartHub will make people part with $300 a year after they bought the TV. If I were marketing something like that I would pimp picture improvement over faster/smoother Angry Birds action.
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Digimat, i have not even bought a used hdDVD in a few years. Love my dvd's on that machine.

The last comparison i ever did was the first Transformers in HdDvd vs bluray on my Sony s550. Too close to tell a difference on my rpLCd Sony.

10k, superior input there, thank you...

Jestered, IMHO bluray "reference material" NOW and for the past 2 years has exceeded hdDvd reference discs of that era.

Yes, my HDa30 is slow to boot...but it sure delivers a smokin dvd pic. I only have about 6 hddvd's that i feel compelled to upgrade (or sidegrade) to bluray.

I actually have another A30 in airtight storage as backup. I bought two at 50 bucks each day after HDdvd conceded to Bluray at Gettysburg. Even Lincoln grabbed one!!!!
Edited by Bladerunner1959 - 5/14/13 at 12:33pm
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Well I got panel #3 installed last night. Today after close inspection I found at least 3 dead pixels and what looks like either a crack or a scratch on the inside of the screen. Told Samsung I've had it and want my money back. I guess a tech supposed to come and inspect it to report to Samsung first.

It's a bummer because I do really like the picture ES8000 can produce, but I just don't think I can keep repairing this until in happy.
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Originally Posted by xitman View Post

Well I got panel #3 installed last night. Today after close inspection I found at least 3 dead pixels and what looks like either a crack or a scratch on the inside of the screen. Told Samsung I've had it and want my money back. I guess a tech supposed to come and inspect it to report to Samsung first.

It's a bummer because I do really like the picture ES8000 can produce, but I just don't think I can keep repairing this until in happy.
Based on the Value Electronics shootout, it looks to me like the F8500 is the TV to get. From the F8000 thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1463286/official-samsung-unxxf8000-owners-thread/1080#post_23312419
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OuggaBooga, there is a growing thread on Amazon about the "kit"!
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Originally Posted by 10k View Post

Based on the Value Electronics shootout, it looks to me like the F8500 is the TV to get. From the F8000 thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1463286/official-samsung-unxxf8000-owners-thread/1080#post_23312419
So what's this F8500 set? If they tested it then it must be already out there. I thought the F8000 was the latest greatest, but on that thread it sounds like nobody has a 65" one yet. I saw a 55" at our local BB for $2000, which I thought was pretty fair. Do people have the bigger ones now?
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thebignewt, The F8500 is their new plasma. Its awesome. It would be on my short list if i was.shopping... Nicest plasma i've seen so far. But, if shopping plasma i would have to see the new panny vt60 and zt60 to see which one has the best buzzing! LOL
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

I'm with you 100% Darcman. Who wouldn't want to pay a few hundred dollars to unlock features your TV is already capable of as well as a spiffy new smart hub that will make life so much better cause you can now sort and organize everything on your TV so much faster! Thank you Samsung for realizing that people like Darcman and I will gladly pay money for firmware updates that other companies do for free! Does anyone have an address for Sony so I can send them some money because I forgot to pay for when they added 3D, DTS HDMA, and Dolby True HD support via firmware updates. Lets not forget Oppo either. Need to send them some extra cash for their countless firmware updates that improve performance and functionality as well. biggrin.gif

I dont know what people are complaining about. If anyone thinks $300 is to much for the Evo kit, dont buy it. Exactly what the Evo will give us is pure speculation at this poiint. There is no denying it will make my tv better.
If you want to upgrade your pc, you cant dowload a different processor or ram. When you think about it you already bought a very expensive sony evo kit. The sony is way more money that the samsung and the picture quality is pretty comparable. My tv isnt perfect but its really nice. I dont have an obsessive compulsive disorder like some people. Im very sorry about the 87 tvs that you had to return.

By the way is Anthony5362 your alter ego
Edited by darcman - 5/14/13 at 5:18pm
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making a comparison between a PC and a TV is unfair. a PC actually does work, and processing power directly attribute to throughput. TV on the other hand is just to display an image. you can get away with single core low frequency CPU, PC on the other hand is all about processing power, memory speed, and storage capacity.
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Originally Posted by howzz1854 View Post

making a comparison between a PC and a TV is unfair. a PC actually does work, and processing power directly attribute to throughput. TV on the other hand is just to display an image. you can get away with single core low frequency CPU, PC on the other hand is all about processing power, memory speed, and storage capacity.

My tv is great and my next one will be a Samsung 4K set but not for probably 4 or 5 years. So if I can improve my tv somewhat by a $300 upgrade, I dont feel the price is to much. I dont need to sue samsung. Now a days $300 is a few diners out or a few tanks of gas. I wont lose sleep over the $300 anyways. I think my first vcr was about $700 now its worth about 7 cents if I get lucky.
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Originally Posted by darcman View Post

I dont know what people are complaining about. If anyone thinks $300 is to much for the Evo kit, dont buy it. Exactly what the Evo will give us is pure speculation at this poiint. There is no denying it will make my tv better.
If you want to upgrade your pc, you cant dowload a different processor or ram. When you think about it you already bought a very expensive sony evo kit. The sony is way more money that the samsung and the picture quality is pretty comparable. My tv isnt perfect but its really nice. I dont have an obsessive compulsive disorder like some people. Im very sorry about the 87 tvs that you had to return.

By the way is Anthony5362 your alter ego

A little sensitive aren't you? I was just trying to poke a little fun at the expense of your gung ho pro EvoKit post since it was such an over the top I must be a Samsung employee paid to post in these forums type of post. Then you obviously feel a need to look up old posts and throw cheap shots. Lighten up dude.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

A little sensitive aren't you? I was just trying to poke a little fun at the expense of your gung ho pro EvoKit post since it was such an over the top I must be a Samsung employee paid to post in these forums type of post. Then you obviously feel a need to look up old posts and throw cheap shots. Lighten up dude.

Well you know that cuts both ways, I was just poking some fun back at you. Theres no need to be overly dramatic. I didnt have to look up any old posts anyone that has read this thread knows that you are the tv return king.

Im really looking forward to the Evo kit, if nothing else my smart hub will have a new look. The worst case I will have a new $300 remote hmmm
Edited by darcman - 5/14/13 at 7:51pm
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