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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Yeah I would like to see a hotshot projector huge screen movie deal. Somebody around here got a 4k projector I think. I've always had the best TV in our group (still do) and mine isn't state of the art hugescreen. Changing the settings helped mine a lot. I didn't even know you could do that until I got on this gig. I got on the service menu on my other Sammy but it was to reset the timer on the lamp.

I have a cheapo, BenQ W1080ST (short throw) projector with the Darbee Darblet and a $160.00 FAVI Electric Screen. I'm ecstatic over the picture combo with my Sammy LCD/LED.

Heck, if I knew the picture was going to be this good - - I would have invested in a better screen!

But I'll wait until 4K projectors (short throw) are reasonably priced in four or five years. Then I'll upgrade the screen.

I was able to score a pass to CEDIA Expo 2013 here in Denver, Colorado, in a couple of weeks. Lots of new toys.

An interesting technology is HDBase T - - which uses your Ethernet (Internet) connection to deliver 4K material and even power a 100 watt or less TV!

If you like your Sammy picture now, wait till you see a 4K picture. I happened to see one at my local Listen Up location. It was spectacular. When he switched the picture to a 1080P format - - it was like going from a 1080P to an old picture (480i) compared to the 4K picture. (4K = 4X the 1080P resolution)

Like Yogi said, "It's Deja vu, all over again!"
Edited by Ricoflashback - 9/13/13 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

I have a cheapo, BenQ W1080ST (short throw) projector with the Darbee Darblet and a $160.00 FAVI Electric Screen. I'm ecstatic over the picture combo with my Sammy LCD/LED.

Heck, if I knew the picture was going to be this good - - I would have invested in a better screen!

But I'll wait until 4K projectors (short throw) are reasonably priced in four or five years. Then I'll upgrade the screen.

I was able to score a pass to CEDIA Expo 2013 here in Denver, Colorado, in a couple of weeks. Lots of new toys.

An interesting technology is HDBase T - - which uses your Ethernet (Internet) connection to deliver 4K material and even power a 100 watt or less TV!

If you like your Sammy picture now, wait till you see a 4K picture. I happened to see one at my local Listen Up location. It was spectacular. When he switched the picture to a 1080P format - - it was like going from a 1080P to an old picture (480i) compared to the 4K picture. (4K = 4X the 1080P resolution)

Like Yogi said, "It's Deja vu, all over again!"

I've got the same projector, the Benq 1080 short throw. 1080p - 3D - it has it all. It really is the perfect compliment to an ES8000 for those times when you are about to watch a movie and wish the screen was just a bit bigger. I paid a little over $1000 for mine, but I believe it was on sale for around $800 at one time or another on Amazon. It takes 3D to another level, and since it's short throw you can set it up like 5 feet away from the screen on a table if you want. I also invested in a 100" screen which was around a hundred dollars. Best decision I've made for my home theatre since buying the ES. It's DLP but if you insist on having an LCD projector the new Epson 2030 would be my 2nd choice for around $1000

My next set will be 4K for sure. Probably with glasses free 3D since it is actually right around the corner now (look up Dolby 3D etc.). And now that a few OLED's are being released....it's all happening! And it should only get better in 2-3 years when I am looking to purchase my next tv
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Gamermwm....ditto. Glasses free 3d on 4k/oled in a few years....my thoughts exactly.
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Star Trek "into darkness" (2d & 3d) + un60es8000 = an amazing home theater experience! Wow!
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

Star Trek "into darkness" (2d & 3d) + un60es8000 = an amazing home theater experience! Wow!

Blade if i may ask, what are you using as your 3d settings? I do not get a wow experience with 3d into darkness in movie mode.

2d yes, but not 3d.
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

For the "dark" room, I recommend a projector with a minimum of a 100" screen.

For the room with "light" - - an LCD/LED will work best.

And if that gets too complicated - - I'd suggest an LCD/LED with a drop down projector screen (electric) in the dark room to cover all possibilities.

When it's movie time...it's the big screen! When it's sports or regular TV - - it's the LCD/LED. If you really do have off angle issues - - the plasma will be much better. But I thought you were sold on the OLED?

No, I don't remember ever talking about OLED, I've never researched or considered them. I don't even know anything about them, except for maybe that they are a lot more $$$ than the current LED. If I did, I didn't mean to, as again, I don't know anything about OLED.

It sounds like you are just totally against plasma TVs all around. Is there a reason for your bias against plasma?
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Does anyone know what the retail price for the UN60ES8000 was back in December of 2012? Its for my insurance property loss paperwork.
I can't remember what I paid, and can't find my best buy receipts.
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^I suggest you give BB a call as they can look it up easily

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Originally Posted by chrisjmccord View Post

Does anyone know what the retail price for the UN60ES8000 was back in December of 2012? Its for my insurance property loss paperwork.
I can't remember what I paid, and can't find my best buy receipts.

If you have a reward zone card that you used, you can also log onto the reward zone web site and it'll have records of your receipts that you used with your reward zone card going back like two years or more.
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Originally Posted by JSY View Post

If you have a reward zone card that you used, you can also log onto the reward zone web site and it'll have records of your receipts that you used with your reward zone card going back like two years or more.

I tried that, something has changed, and the bank is now hosting the site, I could only get statements back to early 2013, nothing 2012 at all. Unless I'm just not finding it in the right spots?
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Price of UN60ES8000 was $2,797.95 (excluding taxes) in February of 2013 at hhgregg.
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Originally Posted by bigjb419 View Post

Price of UN60ES8000 was $2,797.95 (excluding taxes) in February of 2013 at hhgregg.

Thank you! And so if I also purchased the Best Buy extended warranty, thats another $400? Which is why I keep remembering paying about $3200 after tax for this set. Thats my rough for insurance anyway.
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Just wanted to mention since i NEVER used the "smart" hub till a month ago & i gotta say watching Youtube SUCKS.
I guess it's No prob if the video is under 15mins but if ur watching a 30-90 mins vid then it will freeze/pause/stop playing on this TV.
Any 1 know why this happens? not enuff RAM in the TV ?
i NEVER get this with a PC or even my cell phone, is this 1 of the reasons they go sell you a "evo kit" ?
if so the TV should have been able to play video's on you tube without issue.........I AM really pissed this TV can't do something simple like watch long youtube video's.
WHAT a SCAM IMHO.
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Originally Posted by chrisjmccord View Post

I tried that, something has changed, and the bank is now hosting the site, I could only get statements back to early 2013, nothing 2012 at all. Unless I'm just not finding it in the right spots?

Sorry I wasn't clear - I didn't mean their credit card - but their Reward Zone card which I understand today they changed the name to "MyBestBuy".. lol (my.bestbuy.com)

It's their points system that awards you back gift certificates for spending money there. I like it at least for the fact that you can look up receipts from years back of what you bought there since it's used in calculation of the points.
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Never happens. Maybe an upgraded internet service is in order. ^
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Originally Posted by JSY View Post

Sorry I wasn't clear - I didn't mean their credit card - but their Reward Zone card which I understand today they changed the name to "MyBestBuy".. lol (my.bestbuy.com)

It's their points system that awards you back gift certificates for spending money there. I like it at least for the fact that you can look up receipts from years back of what you bought there since it's used in calculation of the points.

Yeah thats what I tried to get into which then showed me where they changed to the MyBestBuy.com stuff, but even still I couldn't dig up anything from 2012.
I found my original receipt so I'm all good now.
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Originally Posted by chrisjmccord View Post

Does anyone know what the retail price for the UN60ES8000 was back in December of 2012? Its for my insurance property loss paperwork.
I can't remember what I paid, and can't find my best buy receipts.

If you go into the best buy store they may be able to print up a copy of your receipt -- they should be able to find it if you have the date and the credit card number (and maybe the item number).
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Originally Posted by chrisjmccord View Post

Yeah thats what I tried to get into which then showed me where they changed to the MyBestBuy.com stuff, but even still I couldn't dig up anything from 2012.
I found my original receipt so I'm all good now.

Glad you found the receipt. The advice JSY was passing on is that you can go to https://my.bestbuy.com and login and it's got all the old rewards info. Under My account theres a choice for points and purchases and when you go to that page you can chose to view up to the last 2 years of purchases ( if you used your best buy reward zone number when you bought the tv).
Edited by poppagene - 9/17/13 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

Star Trek "into darkness" (2d & 3d) + un60es8000 = an amazing home theater experience! Wow!
Copy that . The 3D was excellent (I rented it), and I'm not a big Star Trek fan but that was a helluva movie on this set. I really really like anything 3D on it. I mean regular BD is great too, but the 3D experience makes the TV worth the extra money. I've got some surfing movie rented in 3D. The ones like that are shot in 3D and look great. There are several of fishies that are pretty entertaining. 3dbluerayrentals is the site I think. They have quite a few and they come pretty fast.
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Originally Posted by chrisjmccord View Post

Yeah thats what I tried to get into which then showed me where they changed to the MyBestBuy.com stuff, but even still I couldn't dig up anything from 2012.
I found my original receipt so I'm all good now.
How much did you pay may I ask? I researched online before I bought mine and paid $3700, which was about $400 under sticker. They didn't have the ES8000 yet at my local Bestbuy (smaller AZ town not Phx). I'm thinking the price started plummeting around then. Figures.
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Help Please.
Hi, I've had the UN55ES8000 for over a year now and have used the Wifi connection for streaming over DLNA without an issue. Last week, I upgraded my router firmware and decided to play with my SSID names (2.4 and 5 GHz) names. All of a sudden, I cannot reconnect my TV to the network again. The problem is whenI start the network wizard, it starts searching, then just stops, it does not even present me with any found SSIDs. My PC and phone have no problems finding my SSIDs and all my neighbours.
I've tried restoring my router to orig firmware and old SSIDs names, tried same names and different for 2.4 and 5 and no luck. It's for sure not the router issue as the TV can't see any SSIDs now.

Searching around, someone stated you can get into the service menu by pressing "Mute 1 8 2 Power". I did that and found an item called "Wifi Region". Mine was set to "S". I tried changing it and found that if I change it to "A", then my wifi works. It only sees the 2.4 GHZ SSIDs though (not sure if the TV supports 5Ghz.).

Anyone else know what this Wifi region is, and why all of a sudden my TV stopped working? I'm on 1051.2 firmware and I'm in Canada. Any chance this firmware has a bug that only shows up when you try to set up wifi again? I tried to revert to an older firmware, but seems we can't do that.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by chrisjmccord View Post

No, I don't remember ever talking about OLED, I've never researched or considered them. I don't even know anything about them, except for maybe that they are a lot more $$$ than the current LED. If I did, I didn't mean to, as again, I don't know anything about OLED.

It sounds like you are just totally against plasma TVs all around. Is there a reason for your bias against plasma?

Chris - if you're happy with a Plasma - - then great for you. I just think that it is an old technology that has far more negatives than positives. But some folks really like it - - but the difference between your old Sammy and a Plasma TV is night and day. Which leads me to believe that you either bought wrong in the first place or determined after the fact that an LCD/LED wasn't for you.

That's o.k. - - it's really aboout what makes you happy. I was just trying to have some fun with the OLED comment - - which is a great technology but very pricey right now.

So I wish you the best in finding a TV set that makes you happy. Just a suggestion - - but get an alarm system for your house. It will help you sleep easier.
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The Plasma, Led/Lcd Displays have reached about their limit as far as what they can do. The next step is OLED (I Think) and that's if they can overcome some early problems and get the price down. Remember it will be hampered by Broadcaster's capabilities.
IMHO
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Originally Posted by raist3001 View Post

Blade if i may ask, what are you using as your 3d settings? I do not get a wow experience with 3d into darkness in movie mode.

2d yes, but not 3d.
Hi Raist3001, it may be a while before I have a chance to post my 3D setting but they are not to far off of the presets. I do prefer to use 16x9 as opposed to screen-fit as it fills more of the screen and reduces the "flashlights" that is inherent to 3d on these edge-lit leds. My 3d pic is razor sharp with little ghosting that seems to be very source related as opposed to the model even though some people have said the 60" is known to ghost more. I suggest making sure your bluray player is set correctly for its 3D output and then double check your tv menu setup for 3d. I don't have my 3d settings/defaults memorized as I am in that mode much less frequently. Either way, your omments point tuser error as the 8000 is easily one of the best 3D monitors on the market for the past 2 years.

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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Copy that . The 3D was excellent (I rented it), and I'm not a big Star Trek fan but that was a helluva movie on this set. I really really like anything 3D on it. I mean regular BD is great too, but the 3D experience makes the TV worth the extra money. I've got some surfing movie rented in 3D. The ones like that are shot in 3D and look great. There are several of fishies that are pretty entertaining. 3dbluerayrentals is the site I think. They have quite a few and they come pretty fast.
...yea BigNewt! IMAX Under the Sea...the frikkin codfish seems like it sticks out about 5 feet into my room. Avengers, Avatar etc ...all siiiick in 3D.

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Originally Posted by Glenee View Post

The Plasma, Led/Lcd Displays have reached about their limit as far as what they can do. The next step is OLED (I Think) and that's if they can overcome some early problems and get the price down. Remember it will be hampered by Broadcaster's capabilities.
IMHO
....Glenee, I think you are pretty much on target. I still play in BestBuy when buy blurays. 2 nights ago when buying WorldWarZ I was looking at a Panny 55vt and thought; yes, pretty nice, handles motion slightly better than my Sammy, blacks are slightly better than my Sammy, colors are IMHO equal to my Sammy....then...I looked at the f8000 (almost identical to the es8000) next to it in a 55 playing the same material "hotel Transylvania" and the bump in pop and huge bump in the razor sharp detail effect glaringly remind me exactly why I went LED over plasma.

Both models displayed excellent depth and Plasma is very nice, even the 8500 is very nice but please....I chose the my 8000 over plasma for primarily what I see every time I am in the store.

Thank goodness my recliner is dead center, Eff viewing angle for the others!!! LOL The f8000 BLOWS away the panny's on sharpness, clarity and POP and I dont give a hamster butt what the purists say, and I'm more convinced than ever. Would I be happy with a ZT or VT model...of course BUT if had one, I would feel "wanting" everytime I would go back home after being in a BestBuy and tinkering with the f8000. I'd know as watching my plasma that there is a sharper, crisper, cleaner more detailed display out there that is engaging and full of POP...especially in the low-light or stronger environment.

If I did watch in complete blackout i'd just adjust backlight on my LED anyway.

We'll see what technology and pricing does in the next few years. I do know that whatever it is...it's gonna be fun stepping up to a 70-75" display next. That's the maximum that my room will allow or that I even desire.
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Originally Posted by zaptor99 View Post

Help Please.
Hi, I've had the UN55ES8000 for over a year now and have used the Wifi connection for streaming over DLNA without an issue. Last week, I upgraded my router firmware and decided to play with my SSID names (2.4 and 5 GHz) names. All of a sudden, I cannot reconnect my TV to the network again. The problem is whenI start the network wizard, it starts searching, then just stops, it does not even present me with any found SSIDs. My PC and phone have no problems finding my SSIDs and all my neighbours.
I've tried restoring my router to orig firmware and old SSIDs names, tried same names and different for 2.4 and 5 and no luck. It's for sure not the router issue as the TV can't see any SSIDs now.

Searching around, someone stated you can get into the service menu by pressing "Mute 1 8 2 Power". I did that and found an item called "Wifi Region". Mine was set to "S". I tried changing it and found that if I change it to "A", then my wifi works. It only sees the 2.4 GHZ SSIDs though (not sure if the TV supports 5Ghz.).

Anyone else know what this Wifi region is, and why all of a sudden my TV stopped working? I'm on 1051.2 firmware and I'm in Canada. Any chance this firmware has a bug that only shows up when you try to set up wifi again? I tried to revert to an older firmware, but seems we can't do that.

Thanks.
Dude good job figuring that out is all I can say. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone changing anything in the service menu here. I"m sure firmware updates change stuff (doh) but why it would change the WiFi Region from A to S is beyond me. To be honest I'm sort of nervous to even to into it. I did on my old Sammy but it was just to reset the timer on the DLP bulb.
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For those who haven't already purchased one, on Amazon.com under the Used section there is a listing for an Evo Kit at $129 (with Prime shipping) that says in the description that it is still 'Brand New Factory Sealed' from a very reliable seller. There are also two other sellers offering it at $139 and those are listed as being brand new as well
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Edited by Highland Logan - 1/3/14 at 3:39am
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As of today is there a newere firmware version?
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zaptor99, am having similar issue here. I think latest firmware might be the cause of the problem. Am in Serbia and latest firmware here is 002009. Everything worked fine for me until latest firmware and several days a go.

I own a TV for almost a year now, never had any issues with wifi connection tability or connecting, and didn't change any hardware/software for a year. Nothing changed except TV's firmware. TV was always connected to my dual band router on 5GhZ frequency. So, yes TV definitely supports 5GHz.. It did support 5Ghz until recently, that is.

I've tried everything I could think of, reseting TV to factory defaults in Menu many times, disconnecting it from power for hours, didn't help. I can't even connect it to my 5GHz router, not even when network is fully opened. At first, my TV behaved exactly like yours. Than, after several resets, it started finding wifi networks but couldn't connect to my router via 5GHz. 2.4GHz apparently worked than. Now, I can't even find a single wifi network and I know there are at least 10 in my neighborhood, including 2 of mine, 2.4GHZ and 5GHz ones. When I manage to find them after couple of more resets, can't connect the TV to any of them. No matter 5 or 2.4GHZ ones.

One of previous firmwares screwed up the Samsung blue light below display. It was blinking erratically. I thought diode died or something so I turned it off in settings. But, when TV updated itself to new firmware several weeks later, I again turned it on in settings, and voila, the light is alive! So, am thinking we have the same issue here but I don't know if its possible to solve it without Samsung releasing new firmware that will fix the issue. And they might not know about the issue.

Btw. I was using same SSID name for both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz networks. Likes I said, configuration wizard not can't find a single network. Again.
I just did factory rest (TV is off: info, mute, menu, power was the service menu combination). It didn't help. Configuration wizard fails to find any network. Didn't see any settings regarding wifi region.

Edit: Samsung did definitely screw up 5GHz support of the TV. At the end, I managed to connect to 2.4GHz. But, every time I tried to connect to 5Ghz network, to which I now gave a different SSID name than 2.4GHz network, configuration wizard failed. It starts searching than shortly after, closes prematurely. THe problem is that this attempt to connect to 5GHZ network also screws up network configuration wizard so much, that its impossible to connect to 2.4GHz without reseting the TV or disabling 5GHz router function. And everything worked fine for almost a year!
Edited by gorca74 - 9/23/13 at 12:22pm
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I'm glad I'm not the only one smile.gif If you see this thread, half way thru, people are complaining about the same thing. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/59044-4-samsung-smart-find-network-connections

The only way mine works now is if I change my 2.4 SSID to the same name and password as it was before all this started, then just restart the TV and it connects. If I try the wizard again, it disconnects and the problem starts again. It seems somehow the old SSID info is stored and cannot be reset.

Anyhow, I opened a ticket with Samsung, and we are at the final stage where they might send someone over to look at the problem.

I suggest people open a ticket so that Samsung can start looking at their firmware.
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For me, if I try to connect to 5GHZ network than I simply can't go back to working 2.4GHz connection. I now have these two networks setup with different SSID.

When I try to connect to 5GHz, connection wizard starts crashing and freezing, and continues this behavior if I try to go back to 2.4GHz.. Only solution than is to reset the TV, which I don't want to do very often obviously, or disable router 5GHz function which proved much easier solution. TV would than allow me to reconnect to 2.4GHz connection, after entering password once again. This "cheat" allows me to later turn back on 5GHz function on the router and use it with other devices. Its like, if TV has difficulties connecting to a wifi network, this messes it up.
I don't think there is a way to clear TV memory of used wifi networks. Even factory reset option warns about everything being reset, except wifi settings.

I posted on US Samsung website in Q/A section. Hopefully, they'll not give me some generic ******** of answer.
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