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post #391 of 16126
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Originally Posted by gamermwm View Post

Agreed. I'm not really worried about the limited viewing angle until I find out for sure that it's not easily taken care of by using proper settings

The review I read basically said that in dynamic or "torch" mode, was when it was a problem:

"In fact, aside from a rather limited viewing angle before contrast and colour start to reduce, and provided you steer clear of the Samsung UE55ES8000's ill-judged presets, there really isn't much to dislike about its 2D pictures."

So I wonder if this problem is being blow wayyy out of proportion

well i live in america so its the UN55ES8000 for america.me i am going to wait for cnet to review the tv and also prce drops and that all really if i want something that bad i get it ,to me i dont let other people tell me different unless there trying to help and if i see it in my mind , thank u for the info.
post #392 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Flavius View Post

The contrast issues are due to the PVA technology.

The downside of IPS is low contrast (1200:1 at best). OTOH, while PVA has the most contrast straight-on, it also crushes blacks from this perspective.
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Originally Posted by Flavius View Post

It drives me MAD on my 2008 52" Samsung TV. I need an IPS TV. I know some are made, but how do I find them?

All Panasonic LEDs are, so are most high-end LGs. AFAIK, there are no non-IPS 47" TVs. Most expensive 42" TVs are IPS. (The are 42" MVA panels, but I believe they are mostly found in cheaper models). There are no 40", 46" and 52" IPS panels. I'm not sure about 60" and 65", but most likely not.
post #393 of 16126
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Originally Posted by flavius View Post

the contrast issues are due to the pva technology. It drives me mad on my 2008 52" samsung tv. I need an ips tv. I know some are made, but how do i find them?


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post #394 of 16126
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Originally Posted by gamermwm View Post

Agreed. I'm not really worried about the limited viewing angle until I find out for sure that it's not easily taken care of by using proper settings

The review I read basically said that in dynamic or "torch" mode, was when it was a problem:

"In fact, aside from a rather limited viewing angle before contrast and colour start to reduce, and provided you steer clear of the Samsung UE55ES8000's ill-judged presets, there really isn't much to dislike about its 2D pictures."

So I wonder if this problem is being blow wayyy out of proportion

This is one element: a rather limited viewing angle before contrast and colour start to reduce,

and this is another provided you steer clear of the Samsung UE55ES8000's ill-judged presets,

You cannot correct viewing angle by adjusting settings or using a different reset/mode. The only way to correct the problem is to replace the panel with an IPS panel.

If you have the sweet spot and you don't care what the image looks like to everyone else then you certainly won't have a problem.
post #395 of 16126
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

This is one element: a rather limited viewing angle before contrast and colour start to reduce,

and this is another provided you steer clear of the Samsung UE55ES8000's ill-judged presets,

You cannot correct viewing angle by adjusting settings or using a different reset/mode. The only way to correct the problem is to replace the panel with an IPS panel.

If you have the sweet spot and you don't care what the image looks like to everyone else then you certainly won't have a problem.

Oranges and apples. I'm not saying that settings are going to solve the problems native to any particular panel type

I'm just saying, that if the limited viewing angle is more of a problem on this set, and not as much on the D8000, and they use the same panel type...

I wonder if "torch mode" settings might be highlighting issues caused by the super brightness/contrast of this set
(Samsung having made this set a significant % brighter than the D8000)
post #396 of 16126
I was at fry's today and I noticed the loss of picture/color quality on the es8000 when I was checking viewing angles. I was surprised to see the es7500 right next to it on the other side of the shelf and see that it had better color at a similar viewing angle. hmmmmmmm
post #397 of 16126
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Originally Posted by inthemix27 View Post

I think only the full led backlight is made by Sony "We think that this is a PVA LCD display using Full LED backlighting developed by Sony, which would explain why Samsung's name doesn't appear on the label.A label at the back reveals that the display is manufactured by Sony itself.

Sony have stopped manufacturing anything for their TVs as their losses are huge and they are looking to link up with Panasonic and Sharp who are also in difficulty. Their current panels have been made in the S-LCD fab but you may now see IPS or Sharp VA in future Sony's. Sony think they have 3 years before OLED from the Koreans decimate their business but even witin Sony are murmurings that it may be a lot sooner than that as LG and Samsung are masters of cost reduction and time to market.
post #398 of 16126
I've been watching this thread closely since it started, checking it daily eagerly in search of new valuable information as I too am anxious on pulling the trigger and purchasing this tv. But as of late, there's only been discussions about types of LCD panels... Can we please get back on track, and can the people who've actually purchased this set give more info like their impressions now that they've had more time with it such as, PQ, which settings you're finding works, likes/dislikes that you've come to notice. Photos are also very appreciated as well. Thanks
post #399 of 16126
[quote=Frank Benign;21832221]The downside of IPS is low contrast (1200:1 at best).
you are really wrong about IPS panel, higher end series ) Like -Lg Lx9500 (have infinite contrast- 0 black level cannot be measurrated by today techs- http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-tele...0320/test.html -philips 8 and 9-th series same very good blacks http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-tele...1979/test.html ,panasonic this year Panasonic flagship led tv WT50 again very good black( better than the most expensive kuro) only the middle ,lower series had mediocre black ,contrast
post #400 of 16126
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Originally Posted by SiL3NCE View Post

. But as of late, there's only been discussions about types of LCD panels... Can we please get back on track, and can the people who've actually purchased this set give more info like their impressions now that they've had more time with it such as, PQ, which settings you're finding works, likes/dislikes that you've come to notice. Photos are also very appreciated as well. Thanks

Yes you have perfectly right , we are serious offtopic . I didn't see any photo about the P.Q
post #401 of 16126
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Originally Posted by SiL3NCE View Post

I've been watching this thread closely since it started, checking it daily eagerly in search of new valuable information as I too am anxious on pulling the trigger and purchasing this tv. But as of late, there's only been discussions about types of LCD panels... Can we please get back on track, and can the people who've actually purchased this set give more info like their impressions now that they've had more time with it such as, PQ, which settings you're finding works, likes/dislikes that you've come to notice. Photos are also very appreciated as well. Thanks

Motion control and voice control are terrible. The tv keeps turning on when my 10 month old cries at 2am. I had to shut off the voice control. The mic on the remote does not do a good job. Motion control never recognizes me.

I really like the fitness app section. Lots of good workouts that my wife and I both use. The kids section has some shows that my daughter seems to like.

I have playing with 3d and it is really good. I like the glasses that come with it better than the ones that came with the und558000.

Settings are harder for me to get right, waiting on someone to post some professional calibrated settings. My pq was on the red side when it came out of the box, and I like it on the blue or cool side. Turing the color temp to standard helped but on the d8000 I used warm 2

More to come as I keep tinkering
post #402 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Islandborn View Post

I dunno about the rest of u, but I have been patiently waiting on this new series for the last few months is high anticipation. I am all over either the 65 or 75....

There is no release date for either. And the latter, especially, is likely to never ship.
post #403 of 16126
anyone here use twitter on there samsung smart hub? i have tried everything known to man.. it keeps saying no account info when i try to log in? am i missing something here?
thanks in advance!
post #404 of 16126
Thanks a bunch flyguychad
post #405 of 16126
in fact has anyone been able to register any apps like facebook or twitter under the account managment-link accounts- register? i cant get anything to register.. and yes i am logged in to my samsung account.
post #406 of 16126
[quote=inthemix27;21833508]
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Originally Posted by Frank Benign View Post

The downside of IPS is low contrast (1200:1 at best).
you are really wrong about IPS panel, higher end series ) Like -Lg Lx9500 (have infinite contrast- 0 black level cannot be measurrated by today techs- http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-tele...0320/test.html -philips 8 and 9-th series same very good blacks http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-tele...1979/test.html ,panasonic this year Panasonic flagship led tv WT50 again very good black( better than the most expensive kuro) only the middle ,lower series had mediocre black ,contrast

That's only with local dimming. Without local dimming 1200:1 is the best that IPS can do. Samsung has a similar technology that they call PLS, which they use in tablets and monitors, and supply to Apple as well . They all top out at about 900:1. While their PVA tech can go up to 5000.
post #407 of 16126
Yes of course with local dimming on ,you don't turn off the local dimming and you have excelent black's, in some case's better than a plasma, the same is with Sams. 7, 8-th series as well , with local dimm. on you have better black's contrast .I don't think that turning on the local dimming should be a problem To get back on track ,can anyone ,please, upload some photo with the P.Q of this tv ,to see what this beast can do , if possible pic. with ( Standard def. or HD programs are more than welcome'd ) Thanks in advance
post #408 of 16126
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Originally Posted by inthemix27 View Post

Yes of course with local dimming on ,you don't turn off the local dimming and you have excelent black's, in some case's better than a plasma, the same is with Sams. 7, 8-th series as well , with local dimm. on you have better black's contrast .I don't think that turning on the local dimming should be a problem To get back on track ,can anyone ,please, upload some photo with the P.Q of this tv ,to see what this beast can do , if possible pic. with ( Standard def. or HD programs are more than welcome'd ) Thanks in advance



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From my iPhone Xbox Harry potter standard with 15 backlight
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post #409 of 16126
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Originally Posted by inthemix27 View Post

Yes of course with local dimming on ,you don't turn off the local dimming and you have excelent black's, in some case's better than a plasma, the same is with Sams. 7, 8-th series as well , with local dimm. on you have better black's contrast .I don't think that turning on the local dimming should be a problem To get back on track ,can anyone ,please, upload some photo with the P.Q of this tv ,to see what this beast can do , if possible pic. with ( Standard def. or HD programs are more than welcome'd ) Thanks in advance

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post #410 of 16126
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Originally Posted by flyguychad View Post

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How is the input lag for gaming?
post #411 of 16126
Received my es7500 2 days ago and i have been messing around with some settings. this tv is amazing. heres some pics of the screen tests. there is some light on the right side of the screen, thats only the kitchen light.
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post #412 of 16126
First, thank you for the pictures!

Second, how good or bad is the picture quality for you when viewing from an angle? I've been hearing bad reports here, but nothing but good things from another forum.
post #413 of 16126
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Originally Posted by GeraldRommel View Post

First, thank you for the pictures!

Second, how good or bad is the picture quality for you when viewing from an angle? I've been hearing bad reports here, but nothing but good things from another forum.

to tell you the truth i walked from side to side and i couldnt tell any difference from normal sitting areas. there was a slight change in colors on some scenes when going from center to side but nothing extreme to make me call samsung and exchange it. i hate sitting to the side while watching tv so the viewing angle doesnt concern me. i think people who are complaining and noticing bad viewing angles either have a bad screen or are being too difficult. no tv is going to be perfect. that's something i have realized and have to live with. for example there was some clouding throughout the screen (not shown in the photos, not sure why) when watching the dark knight but i massaged the screen with the cloth provided and the clouding seemed to go down and has been down ever since.

i suggest to everyone who is having issues to post pictures here because not all tvs are made the same.
post #414 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Cahn2126 View Post


How is the input lag for gaming?

Minimal I do run full settings No game mode. I notice a slight lag nothing to bad. When playing call of duty I also have the sensitivity set to 6 for the controller.
post #415 of 16126
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Originally Posted by blkhwk View Post

Received my es7500 2 days ago and i have been messing around with some settings. this tv is amazing. heres some pics of the screen tests. there is some light on the right side of the screen, thats only the kitchen light.

Wow your tv is a BEAST it handled those pics no problem at all
post #416 of 16126
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Originally Posted by flyguychad View Post

Minimal I do run full settings No game mode. I notice a slight lag nothing to bad. When playing call of duty I also have the sensitivity set to 6 for the controller.

Sounds good, but by any chance would you be able to test MvC 3?
post #417 of 16126
Nice to hear a good report for a change.
post #418 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Cahn2126 View Post

Sounds good, but by any chance would you be able to test MvC 3?

Nice to see some fellow gamers here. Mine is on the way, and I can't wait to test Mass Effect 3 out on it
post #419 of 16126
To all the owners of this tv..How is the clouding compared to the D8000. I currently have the Sony 55HX929 and the black level is absolutely perfect. I went from a D7900(same as the D8000 but with the 7000 bezel) to the Sony because the clouding and flashlighting on the Samsung was laughably bad. My issue now is DSE and banding with the Sony. Also it seems like the Sony does a horrible job with cleaning up Cable signals. Blu Rays look amazing but it seems to struggle with cleaning up picture noise. The Samsung i had originally did a much better job in this regard. Does the ES8000 have any clouding? I am considering switching but I really cant deal with it if its anything like the D8000. Thanks
post #420 of 16126
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Originally Posted by GeraldRommel View Post

First, thank you for the pictures!

Second, how good or bad is the picture quality for you when viewing from an angle? I've been hearing bad reports here, but nothing but good things from another forum.

I was at fry's the other day and noticed the es7500 doesnt suffer the same problem as the es8000 for the viewing angles. Im actually considering the es7500 over the es8000 right now.
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