Official Samsung UNxxES8000 Owner's Thread - Page 22

Originally Posted by dmeech10

Try it on the other modes besides clear/off of you have time.. It's noticeable when the camera is zoomed in on a person and the person moves around. You can really see it in Avatar when he first runs out of the lab in the avatar body, and there are other avatars (Navi??) playing basketball. Every couple if seconds the person or the whole frame will jerk/skip/sutter, sort of like the TV doesn't have enough processing power to process the motion smoothing in the frame and is trying to catch up to stay in sync with the input signal.

Originally Posted by gamermwm

But future updates should smooth out some problems, and possible evolution kit upgrades later on may improve responsiveness, processing speed, etc. It should get better

Originally Posted by leftyguitar1963

Knowing Samsung, I wouldn't count on it. And these EK's aren't going to be a free handout either........

Originally Posted by IsaacSG

Can someone who has the TV answer a quick question when they have time? On mine I notice on both the horizontal edges there is a slight bend or warp like 2 or 3 inches from the bezel. I know this is a ridiculous thing to be observing but it bothers me that it isn't 100% flat all the way to the bezel. The only way to notice this is to look along the panel almost at its side and look at the reflections to see if they warp.

Once again I know this is crazy, but the OCD in me thinks this affects picture quality and maybe the panel was damaged in transit or something. I'll also be swapping out this one if my TV is the only one with this issue which is why I'm asking.

Thanks guys.

Originally Posted by flyguychad

Your so polite that it makes it hard to tell you that you need to take some pills and relax. Seriously though I notice it on mine and it's normal. Relax and enjoy your tv

Originally Posted by rtrski

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Read all the other issues about restarts, shutoffs, etc. with a bit of wonder. Mine has never, not once, shut down unexpectedly (it did pop up a "TV will sleep in XX seconds, press OK to cancel" window once - wife had had it on for I think 6 hrs straight in the background and never changed channels or anything, so that was just the power-off timer ). But I also from the start have had the voice/smart interaction turned off, and wireless networking connected. So it may indeed be that a lot of the weird power issues are software restarts caused by the smart interaction.

Originally Posted by Holton0289

sure i can change the title. I will say im not sure i really want to sell the b8500. Its a 46in and the es8000 is a 55in. The quality of the 8500 is still better. Im going to try to set them up next to each other and make sure my mind isnt playing tricks on me. The menu layout/system and responsiveness is hands down better with the es8000.

This set does have only 3 HDMIs for some unknown reason. Ive already run into problems with the camera, and voice control. If you use anything other than the TVs speakers, voice wont work, as far as i can tell. It says this very thing while going through the setup. The camera isnt pointed directly at any seat, and there is no way position the cam (short of moving the entire TV) so Im not going to use it right now.

The IR device onnly works (as stated above) with other samsung products, so hope you like sammys.

The "mouse" remote is an interesting feature. Im still playing with it, but if your getting one, be prepared to use the return button. I think im about to wear the paint off that button.

The internet, for one reason or another, does not allow me to connect to the world right now. This may be a problem with my wired connection. I have seen several places where it asks if you want to turn on the wireless internet connection. I diddnt know if this was something built in or what. I usually dont use wireless but im going to set it up and see if it works.

The bezels are really thin, maybe thinner that the prior model, but the thickness of the TV is about equal to the 8500. I diddnt know what to expect.

Im not crazy about the stand, but i knew this going into it.

The screen comes extremely bright out of the box. I think i underestimated the quality of the 8500 now that I have sat and watched TV for several hours. There does appear to be uneven lighting across the picture. Ill try to go into more detail after I setup both sets for comparison.

As for 3d....well they give you 5 glasses, for whatever thats worth. I highly doubt ill watch 3d much, if at all. Still look like cardboard cutouts standing in front or behind one another. Ive never been one to seek out 3d programming.

hmmm. i dont think I missed anything. If you have any other questions just throw them down and ill try to answer. Im no pro, but i have been staring at the 8500 for a couple years so i know what a decent PQ looks like.

Originally Posted by kurtkbee

The (fast) reboots happen even with smart interaction turned off. I really think it is network related (or due to some communication issue back to samsung). It only happened for one day then stopped - I changed so many things i am not sure what fixed it.

Originally Posted by John1117


I have the UN55ES7500 and I am having the same reboot problem. I have tried every setting I can think of and I am still having this problem on day 4. I even returned the first set thinkink it was the TV but the new one does the same thing. I paid a lot of money for this set so now i am wondering if I should return it for something else or wait for Samsung to fix this issue as others have had this same problem.

Originally Posted by gamermwm

I was not at all impressed with passive 3D. I watched on a cramped display at Wal-Mart and the screen was below me. It was blurry and I couldn't even see the 3D effect unless I ducked down near to eye level with the set. Seems the angles are a lot more limited with passive

Not to mention that with passive you're not getting full 1080p per eye. This is a deal breaker for me. Maybe once 4K tv's are here and all passive is 1080p per eye I will give it another try.
Beyond this point, it's really not even a question of passive vs active unless you just get headaches watching active 3D. Just try not to watch when you're tired and you'll be alright

Needis, you mentioned a demo with an eel swimming out at you vs. a certain part of KP2 for popout examples. That's really apples and oranges because the amount of popout differs from movie to movie. If you watch the same scene on both a passive and active tv (with the same bluray player), and you actually like the passive better, I would question your judgment

You will notice some difference in the amount of popout, etc. between some bluray players. Panasonic claims to have specifically improved popout on their 2012 BD players, but I don't know if it's better than Samsung's implementation in their BD players, or just that they are catching up to them. I do know that the 2011 Samsung BD Players have one of the best implementations of 2D-3D conversion available on an affordable consumer device

Originally Posted by Needis

I figured out why I don't get the "pop" in 3d. I have bad eyes...lol. Right eye is weaker than left. But I do see depth. Funny, I think passive 3d is better for people with bad eyesight. I don't think I'll be returning my ES8000 ( I have till the 23rd). Watching non 3d is great.

Today I noticed after the FBI warning the screen goes blank, I see a lot of light from each of the corners of the TV and the screen is not at all black. But when the movies starts, the black top/bottom borders are BLACK with no signs of the lights from each of the corners.

Originally Posted by gamermwm

That's funny I was just talking to my eye doctor about this at my last checkup. 3D actually gives your eye muscles a workout and can strengthen weak eyes. Bad reactions to 3D can actual be a symptom of an ocular disorder

I told my eye doctor that I watch a lot of native 3D content, and quite a bit of 2D-3D content, and she actually said that my astigmatism seemed to be gone/reduced from my last checkup and that it could be due to my eyes being stronger from watching 3D!

Your eyes (like any muscle) will need to be strengthened and conditioned to be able to handle longer durations of 3D content. If you experience discomfort, try sitting further back and that should help. There is less strain the further back you sit (because there is less vergence-accommodation conflict), and try not to watch 3D when tired or when the eyes are already fatigued

Originally Posted by gamermwm

That's funny I was just talking to my eye doctor about this at my last checkup. 3D actually gives your eye muscles a workout and can strengthen weak eyes. Bad reactions to 3D can actual be a symptom of an ocular disorder

I told my eye doctor that I watch a lot of native 3D content, and quite a bit of 2D-3D content, and she actually said that my astigmatism seemed to be gone/reduced from my last checkup and that it could be due to my eyes being stronger from watching 3D!

Your eyes (like any muscle) will need to be strengthened and conditioned to be able to handle longer durations of 3D content. If you experience discomfort, try sitting further back and that should help. There is less strain the further back you sit (because there is less vergence-accommodation conflict), and try not to watch 3D when tired or when the eyes are already fatigued

Originally Posted by SkyYYZ

Well, after 2 days with the new UN55ES8000 (Version TS01 - March 2012 manufacture date), I cannot get past the corner light bleed or flashlighting, whatever it's called. For a 2012 flagship set with an MSRP of $3649, it is unacceptable for me. Same experience with the D7000 and D8000 sets I exchanged "up" for. I'm probably going to be trespassed from the store when I return this one *grin*

I am attaching an image for you guys to see. My screen is terribly distracting during dark scenes. I was really hoping Samsung figured out a way to mask edge light issues for 2012. (crappy photo taken from iPhone 4S but you can clearly see the corner imperfections).

Alas, I have accepted the limitations of current LED edge light technology and will be getting a 70" screen from a competitor for less money, this time from Costco - with a 2 year warranty.

Would have rather had a great 55" from Samsung instead.

Cheers! Good luck to you all... hope you find great panels!

Jay

Originally Posted by nitra

A lot of that issue is caused by the edge lit screen.
30-40% will go away somewhere between week 3 and 4 after it has a chance to break in, also proper use of the backlight can help when combined with the ECO sensor. The backlight on the newer edge lit panels doesn't equal the luminosity of the rear lit sets, where a rear lit set may require a backlight setting of 14, the edge lit 2011's & 2012's use 8 for the same brightness level.

Also, looking a bit further at your uniformity, it looks as if you can get rid of a good portion of it with a massage.

Out of curiosity, what are your backlight and ECO sensor levels set at to produce those flashlights?
Would you mind posting some pictures with the backlight at 8, and with it at 8 with the eco @ 5? (give the eco at least a minute with the lights off to dial down) it would be very helpful for people looking at these sets to see this information.


Thanks!

Originally Posted by nitra


A lot of that issue is caused by the edge lit screen.
30-40% will go away somewhere between week 3 and 4 after it has a chance to break in, also proper use of the backlight can help when combined with the ECO sensor. The backlight on the newer edge lit panels doesn't equal the luminosity of the rear lit sets, where a rear lit set may require a backlight setting of 14, the edge lit 2011's & 2012's use 8 for the same brightness level.

Also, looking a bit further at your uniformity, it looks as if you can get rid of a good portion of it with a massage.

Out of curiosity, what are your backlight and ECO sensor levels set at to produce those flashlights?
Would you mind posting some pictures with the backlight at 8, and with it at 8 with the eco @ 5? (give the eco at least a minute with the lights off to dial down) it would be very helpful for people looking at these sets to see this information.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by JewDaddy

We as the consumer shouldn't have to dim our displays so that we can enjoy them without picture issues like this.

Originally Posted by Phil47


I agree, although a proper calibration using a blu-ray DVD like Spears and Munsil resulted in a significant reduction in light bleed and hot spots etc on my Sammy un65c8000 when competed. The calibrated setting definitely improved the PQ but also resulted in lower backlight settings than I had previously thought was appropriate when adjusting "by eye".

Originally Posted by JewDaddy

Thats probably the biggest reason I've never had a professional calibration done on any high end hdtv I've owned. I hate to admit it, but I actually prefer "torch mode" I enjoy bright whites, deep blacks and very colorful picture. I'm not knocking anybody who has their tv calibrated and prefers a more natural and lifelike picture. I just dont like when a manufacturer like Samsung tells you that in order to avoid picture quality issues, use these settings. That to me just isnt right. Let the consumer choose the picture settings they prefer.

Originally Posted by Needis

-SkyYYZ

Do you still the the flashlight when playing a movie? I don't notice the flashlight when I have a movie playing. The top/bottom are really dark.