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post #6391 of 16125
I'm still on my original firmware 001013...and happily and stubbornly staying there. I have not seen enough consistent positive reinforcement to do an upgrade. I'm open for data to consider....
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Originally Posted by Catt99 View Post

* Provide fix for Angry Birds
* Improve SmartHub
* Enhance picture quality

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - should have guessed
post #6393 of 16125
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Originally Posted by brentqld View Post

Paul from Conceiva (Mezzmo) posted this reply to my post on their site "Playing all videos in a playlist or folder is a feature of your TV and not Mezzmo. We don't have a Samsung E-series TV, but we do have D-series, C-series and B-series and I assume your TV will be similar in operation. When a video starts playing (streaming via Mezzmo), press the Tools button on your remote control and navigate to the "Repeat" setting. You can choose "Repeat All" (plays all videos in the folder/playlist - which is what you seem to have now), "Repeat Title" (repeats the same video over and over) or "None" (no repeat playing - which is what you seem to prefer)."
Paul was correct, the TV does have a "Repeat" setting but mine's already set to Off (or None) so, I'm still confused.
The repeat function does work but it works a bit too good: when I turn it on to "Title" it repeats the one playing, when I turn it on to "All" it pays the next file in the folder, which it also does when the function turned off!
Cheers,
B

I was about to say great info and thanks for sharing but that sucks that it didn't work. Sorry, man.
post #6394 of 16125
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Originally Posted by JDenham View Post

** New Update 1041.1 ** just checked the Samsung website and notice there's a new update haha I'm still on 1035

Interesting. We got this firmware earlier in Europe. However, they uploaded the same firmware today:

http://www.samsung.com/nl/support/model/UE55ES8000SXXN-downloads
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I may have to apply the new magic bullet firmware tonight!! smile.gifrolleyes.gif I wish they would add (sorry "ENABLE") 10pt white balance in standard mode.
Edited by RickS - 11/1/12 at 9:29am
post #6396 of 16125
Since its a .1 update, wonder if a full reset is required with this one as well?
post #6397 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Catt99 View Post

If you're trying to calibrate colors from channels through your FIOS box you're fighting a losing battle. And a professional calibration is not the answer. Keep in mind the panel is displaying, with whatever degree of fidelity it can, the source material it is fed. Put another way, if you are seeing different color schemes (most notably for you in flesh tones in the face) with your current color settings, a professional calibration won't "even out" the color schemes that your sources are feeding the set.

Gotcha. I'm curious about looking into the WOW disc and then settling on whatever I end up with from that. I guess with the current HDTV standards it's just not possible to have accurate color across all the channels as they all differ so much. It also doesn't help that this tv has a red push to it anyways, making it a seemingly losing battle trying to get this thing balanced.
post #6398 of 16125
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Originally Posted by brentqld View Post

Paul from Conceiva (Mezzmo) posted this reply to my post on their site "Playing all videos in a playlist or folder is a feature of your TV and not Mezzmo. We don't have a Samsung E-series TV, but we do have D-series, C-series and B-series and I assume your TV will be similar in operation. When a video starts playing (streaming via Mezzmo), press the Tools button on your remote control and navigate to the "Repeat" setting. You can choose "Repeat All" (plays all videos in the folder/playlist - which is what you seem to have now), "Repeat Title" (repeats the same video over and over) or "None" (no repeat playing - which is what you seem to prefer)."
Paul was correct, the TV does have a "Repeat" setting but mine's already set to Off (or None) so, I'm still confused.
The repeat function does work but it works a bit too good: when I turn it on to "Title" it repeats the one playing, when I turn it on to "All" it pays the next file in the folder, which it also does when the function turned off!
Cheers,
B

Sounds like another case of a "feature" you'd rather not have. On a related note, I was very frustrated to learn that when doing what you're doing with streaming, the tv drops down the info bar at the top of the screen every single time I skip to another part of the video, whether using the mouse or remote. Very frustrating to have that info bar constantly drop over the picture for no reason. Another "feature" I should be able to turn off that I can't turn off.
post #6399 of 16125
Has anyone but me tried VuDu, the download movie service that has some 3D titles to rent? I signed up 2 days ago specifically because they are the only ones who rent 3D movies (I think they are $5.99). There are not a lot of titles for rent now (like 5-6 I think) but probably more being added all the time. They do sell them for $35 which is about average. I haven't bought any, but I think if you buy it stays in the cloud on their site. I don't plan on buying any. You can also rent a lot of regular movies just like iTunes, they have 3 quality options at different prices. The highest is $5.99 and we watched Lincoln Vampire last night and it was great, including the sound (which is very Blueray like). I downloaded a freebee 3D bit pimping the Seychelle islands (my brother has been there 3 times from the UAR) and it looks excellent. Just wondering what anyone else's experience has been with their 3D rentals. BTW pay as you go like iTunes, no subscription fee like Netflix. As suggested I swithed my AVR input to HDMI2 to get the sound.
post #6400 of 16125
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Has anyone but me tried VuDu, the download movie service that has some 3D titles to rent? I signed up 2 days ago specifically because they are the only ones who rent 3D movies (I think they are $5.99). There are not a lot of titles for rent now (like 5-6 I think) but probably more being added all the time. They do sell them for $35 which is about average. I haven't bought any, but I think if you buy it stays in the cloud on their site. I don't plan on buying any. You can also rent a lot of regular movies just like iTunes, they have 3 quality options at different prices. The highest is $5.99 and we watched Lincoln Vampire last night and it was great, including the sound (which is very Blueray like). I downloaded a freebee 3D bit pimping the Seychelle islands (my brother has been there 3 times from the UAR) and it looks excellent. Just wondering what anyone else's experience has been with their 3D rentals. BTW pay as you go like iTunes, no subscription fee like Netflix. As suggested I swithed my AVR input to HDMI2 to get the sound.

I've watched one or two movies from VuDu, but not 3D. Both mine were their HDX versions (full HD and 5.1 or better sound, if I recall correctly). There is another service that rents 3D blu-ray movies the "somewhat old fashioned" way, a la Netflix - sending discs in the mail. User RicoFlashback got his hand slapped by a moderator for sharing the info in this thread (or in multiple threads) because, I gather, it was seen as promoting a vendor (which I DO NOT think Rico was doing -- I think we was sharing his impressions and appreciated his post. In any event, the service has its own thread in the 3D Content forum here at AVS: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1322117/http-www-3d-blurayrental-com/0_100. I haven't used them, but have seen some positive impressions shared by others (and I'm sure if you read through that lengthy thread going back a year and a half you'll see some good and bad).
post #6401 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Catt99 View Post

I've watched one or two movies from VuDu, but not 3D. Both mine were their HDX versions (full HD and 5.1 or better sound, if I recall correctly). There is another service that rents 3D blu-ray movies the "somewhat old fashioned" way, a la Netflix - sending discs in the mail. User RicoFlashback got his hand slapped by a moderator for sharing the info in this thread (or in multiple threads) because, I gather, it was seen as promoting a vendor (which I DO NOT think Rico was doing -- I think we was sharing his impressions and appreciated his post. In any event, the service has its own thread in the 3D Content forum here at AVS: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1322117/http-www-3d-blurayrental-com/0_100. I haven't used them, but have seen some positive impressions shared by others (and I'm sure if you read through that lengthy thread going back a year and a half you'll see some good and bad).

Couldn't help but comment on this topic as I believe if you're really going to enjoy your new Sammy set, you should enjoy the 3D capabilities as well, since, in my opinion, Samsung has the best 3D picture on the market.

As mentioned before by many users - - there is not a lot of 3D content out there, right now, but that is changing. With the advent of high end TV's and even lower priced "passive" 3D models - - more studios are developing the production talent to deliver this medium.

I haven't tried VUDU, yet, but from my understanding, you can get 3D movies but not the 7.1 soundtrack with it (limited to 5.1 - bandwidth issue)

So - - you can get 3D from VUDU but only 5.1 soundtrack - - not 7.1 (like Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter (which, to me, was quite hilarious and fun to watch). If some VUDU users can confirm - - that would be great. Everything I see on the VUDU web site indicates that you can get a 7.1 soundtrack but I have not seen it combined with 3D video. And, their selection is slim plus they are pricey.

The other aforementioned alternative provides the full disc - - 7.1 soundtrack (if applicable). I believe a 3D Bluray disc provides a superior picture to a 3D streamed movie plus the other features that come with the flick. So far, I've viewed 3D Journey 2: The Mysterious Island & 3D Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter. I have 3D Prometheus and just today, 3D Dial M for Murder. They are high quality discs and the 3D has been amazing.

So - - in summation, there are alternatives out there instead of buying everything or renting from a small collection without the full soundtrack. That's all I was trying to convey in my earlier post.

Hope this helps.
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STICK AROUND. Nice to see you!
post #6403 of 16125
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Has anyone but me tried VuDu, the download movie service that has some 3D titles to rent? I signed up 2 days ago specifically because they are the only ones who rent 3D movies (I think they are $5.99). There are not a lot of titles for rent now (like 5-6 I think) but probably more being added all the time. They do sell them for $35 which is about average. I haven't bought any, but I think if you buy it stays in the cloud on their site. I don't plan on buying any. You can also rent a lot of regular movies just like iTunes, they have 3 quality options at different prices. The highest is $5.99 and we watched Lincoln Vampire last night and it was great, including the sound (which is very Blueray like). I downloaded a freebee 3D bit pimping the Seychelle islands (my brother has been there 3 times from the UAR) and it looks excellent. Just wondering what anyone else's experience has been with their 3D rentals. BTW pay as you go like iTunes, no subscription fee like Netflix. As suggested I swithed my AVR input to HDMI2 to get the sound.

I haven't watched any 3D from VuDu, but I rented one HDX because I had a credit for signing up. I'll check out other 3D but otherwise will stick with my Apple TV being it's cheaper to rent 1080p that way. That being said - bad news for Apple TV owners. Either with the latest Apple TV update or the last Samsung update, the Samsung no longer passes AC3 from Apple TV's HDMI out through it's optical connection to the AVR.
post #6404 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I haven't watched any 3D from VuDu, but I rented one HDX because I had a credit for signing up. I'll check out other 3D but otherwise will stick with my Apple TV being it's cheaper to rent 1080p that way. That being said - bad news for Apple TV owners. Either with the latest Apple TV update or the last Samsung update, the Samsung no longer passes AC3 from Apple TV's HDMI out through it's optical connection to the AVR.
I'll check out the rentals of the actual discs, thanks for that info. I like the 3D thing but don't want to spring $30 per very often. So Garnoch what you're saying is that your ATV (3 I assume) no longer gets sound from the TV to the AVR via optical? I think you can go optical- ATV straight to the AVR, that's what I did with my old AVR that didn't have HDMI input. Or go ATV-AVR and AVR to HDMI2 Samsung like I did for Vudu.
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Has anyone but me tried VuDu, the download movie service that has some 3D titles to rent? I signed up 2 days ago specifically because they are the only ones who rent 3D movies (I think they are $5.99). There are not a lot of titles for rent now (like 5-6 I think) but probably more being added all the time. They do sell them for $35 which is about average. I haven't bought any, but I think if you buy it stays in the cloud on their site. I don't plan on buying any. You can also rent a lot of regular movies just like iTunes, they have 3 quality options at different prices. The highest is $5.99 and we watched Lincoln Vampire last night and it was great, including the sound (which is very Blueray like). I downloaded a freebee 3D bit pimping the Seychelle islands (my brother has been there 3 times from the UAR) and it looks excellent. Just wondering what anyone else's experience has been with their 3D rentals. BTW pay as you go like iTunes, no subscription fee like Netflix. As suggested I swithed my AVR input to HDMI2 to get the sound.
Yeah Vudu is excellent for some free 3D title demos too.
They have several free 3D movie trailer titles as well as you can watch the first 2 minutes of any title for free.
Great for a free 3D demo source if you don't have any 3D blu-rays.
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

I'll check out the rentals of the actual discs, thanks for that info. I like the 3D thing but don't want to spring $30 per very often. So Garnoch what you're saying is that your ATV (3 I assume) no longer gets sound from the TV to the AVR via optical? I think you can go optical- ATV straight to the AVR, that's what I did with my old AVR that didn't have HDMI input. Or go ATV-AVR and AVR to HDMI2 Samsung like I did for Vudu.

Keep an eye for for sales - I have picked up several premium blu-rays for under $20 - from Best Buy even! Keep an eye out for deals. Last Black Friday I grabbed Legend of the Guardians for like $18. Last month I scored Titanic 3D for under $20 with a coupon and 1 DVD trade-in. A few weeks ago I grabbed Tin-Tin for under $20, again with a trade-in. Watch for places like BJ's if you're a member - a few months ago I saw several IMAX titles like Deep Sea 3D and others for $15 each!! But I was just too broke to grab them. I saw My Bloody Valentine (the real 3D version not anaglyph) used a while back for $12! So keep your eyes out for deals. Unfortunately the $45 prices you see at Best Buy don't help 3D sales at all, but you can find deals on some titles.
post #6407 of 16125
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

I'll check out the rentals of the actual discs, thanks for that info. I like the 3D thing but don't want to spring $30 per very often. So Garnoch what you're saying is that your ATV (3 I assume) no longer gets sound from the TV to the AVR via optical? I think you can go optical- ATV straight to the AVR, that's what I did with my old AVR that didn't have HDMI input. Or go ATV-AVR and AVR to HDMI2 Samsung like I did for Vudu.

Yeah I have an optical now set up direct to my AVR from the Apple TV, but until recently, the Apple TV fed the Samsung only the AC3 5.1 stream through the HDMI when the Apple TV Digital Audio setting was set to On, which meant that the samsung had no choice but to pass it along through it's Optical out. The nice thing about this was that you could leave the AVR input alone and you were able to take advantage of Samsung's delay compensation. With the current setup, there is a slight delay. I just need to upgrade my AVR. smile.gif
post #6408 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Op's Guy View Post

Since its a .1 update, wonder if a full reset is required with this one as well?

Has anyone updated yet ??
post #6409 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

In case this helps.....
From the AVS Manual...
A4 Color Clipping
This clipping pattern is similar to White Clipping, but it splits the vertical bars into red, green, and blue. The pattern allows you to observe how white-level may affect colors on digital displays. Flashing gray is included behind the lettering that labels the digital values. The bars for 235 have been labeled as red, green, and blue to remind the user that 235-251 are allowed to blend together or clip. You can use this pattern to ensure that red, green, and blue are not blending together for 219-233. If the range from 219-233 does not flash, you may need to lower white-level so the entire range of colors will display. Using this pattern you may find that red, green, and blue do not necessarily clip at exactly the same levels, but you simply want to make sure levels lower than 235 flash. Nearby levels can be difficult to tell apart, so if the display never shows flashing for 235 or higher it may be difficult to spot flashing at 233.

A few weeks ago we were talking about colors in general, especially reds in Standard being too vivid. Some people may like that, which is fine, but I seem to prefer a more "natural" look - closer to what the directors and editors intended so I had lowered my overall Color to 45. I wound up bumping it back to 48 because I realized I perhaps liked a little extra vividness. While it's true that Contrast seems to need to be lower in Standard mode, on my panel it doesn't need to be that much lower based on the WOW BD and AVS files. Using the Color Clipping file as well as those others, it confirmed for me a Contrast of 98 in Standard, but it also confirmed my Color should be 45. So I lowered it back to 45 again. If for viewing pleasure I want it to be a little more vivid, I may bump it up later, but for now I'll leave it at there being all colors flash up to 233.
I have a backlight of 13, contrast 80, and color 49. If I were to bump up contrast but lower color, would I then go into Color Space and set the colors there? Then I would check Color again?
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fellow samsung owners, which of you have boughten the extended warranty, and which one, I got my tv at Sears, I need to make up my mind by saturday they seem to have a really good Policy thier but its 500+ for 3yrs. what do you guys recommend and why.
thanks again. smile.gif
post #6411 of 16125
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Originally Posted by slopokeR View Post

fellow samsung owners, which of you have boughten the extended warranty, and which one, I got my tv at Sears, I need to make up my mind by saturday they seem to have a really good Policy thier but its 500+ for 3yrs. what do you guys recommend and why.
thanks again. smile.gif

I bought the square trade warranty for $99 from costco.com. You don't have to purchase the TV from Costco, but you can still get the warranty. There has been some pretty good feedback on the SquareTrade coverage, and for that price, it is hard to ignore it. You will get your manufacturer's warranty from Samsung, plus 3 more years from Square Trade.

http://www.costco.com/3-Years-%28For-TVs-Over-%241%2c000%29.product.11680336.html

I think a few others that are active in this forum have purchased this as well.
post #6412 of 16125
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Originally Posted by mx6bfast View Post

I have a backlight of 13, contrast 80, and color 49. If I were to bump up contrast but lower color, would I then go into Color Space and set the colors there? Then I would check Color again?

I'm no video pro so don't have equipment, but here are my thoughts. After trying many many settings while playing around and trying out just about every "calibration" in the first 100 pages here and everywhere else on the web, I settled on the basic color & white balance settings of CNET's movie mode setting. A lot of people here already know that but I bring it up because I got the color "right" before setting everything else and have never touched those color and white balance settings in Movie mode. I didn't have to. i did tweak those settings once I put them into Standard mode because of the differences in the two modes, including losing the 10p settings.

I then tweaked the other settings with extras like Dynamic Contract and Black Tone OFF with the Disney WOW BD and the AVS files found at this site for free. Not all panels are the same but like CNET's, mine seemed about right with a Contrast of 100 and Color close to 50 was fine (I did back it off a little though) and Brightness around 46 or 47. That was for Movie mode.

Going back to Standard this past week though, I realize I had to back off on the red gain in white balance though, at least as low as 5 to get it looking about the same as Movie mode. But based on the WOW BD and AVS files, I had to lower the Contrast to 98 and Color to no more than 45. Brightness was about the same (based on similar white balance offsets), but because I raised the Brightness to compensate for automatic screen dimming, I had to lower the offsets to counteract the brightness.

So no, I did not go back to Color Space. But yes, once you change one thing, you have to go back to the others and check and tweak. As for your Backlight, that's irrelevant to your "calibration" really. Set it to what is comfortable with your lighting conditions and change accordingly. Or find a good Backlight for daytime viewing and a good one for night time viewing and instead of changing them manually, set the Brightness for your daytime setting and the ECO mode for your nighttime setting and it will take care of things automatically for you.

Sorry - no time to proof read this right now.
Good luck!
Edited by Garnoch - 11/1/12 at 6:27pm
post #6413 of 16125
I did the same warranty as 7011jrs. Based on things we've learned and read about, I would suggest a warranty - and I never buy warranties.
post #6414 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

What's the release notes? HA never mind.
Thanks

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Originally Posted by Catt99 View Post

* Provide fix for Angry Birds
* Improve SmartHub
* Enhance picture quality

Obviously I was joking, but I think I now get that Samsung is keeping prior release notes for every update to address what it might do for users operating on firmware releases several versions back (looking at you Bladerunner redface.gif). Which just confuses the issue further as to what an update is supposed to do as compared to the immediately prior firmware release.

Still, I love how the notes keep stating "Improves performance of SmartHub" and "Improves picture quality." I am waiting for "Optimizes 3D." Just looking for some enhancement to the "3D Optimize" menu command which, by its own terms, "Optimize overall 3D picture clarity" as Eagle pointed out. That will be sweet.
post #6415 of 16125
BTW, 2 things:

I update firmware online rather than USB, and when I tried to update it currently shows as "No update available for you" (I am on 1040).

I also bought the SquareTrade warranty from Costco.
post #6416 of 16125
Catt, you may have a point - maybe haha.

Also, I've notice that sometimes the updater says that on some inputs and not others. Haven't figured out why yet. I have no power so no update for me. I left for work at 5:45am yesterday and still going.
post #6417 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Catt99 View Post

BTW, 2 things:
I update firmware online rather than USB, and when I tried to update it currently shows as "No update available for you" (I am on 1040).
I also bought the SquareTrade warranty from Costco.


That's weird
post #6418 of 16125
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Originally Posted by slopokeR View Post

fellow samsung owners, which of you have boughten the extended warranty, and which one, I got my tv at Sears, I need to make up my mind by saturday they seem to have a really good Policy thier but its 500+ for 3yrs. what do you guys recommend and why.
thanks again. smile.gif

Another vote here for the squaretrade warranty. Don't waste your money on the Samsung extended warranty - it's highway robbery. The squaretrade offers a good combination of coverage vs cost. And I"ve heard pretty good things overall - as good as any other warranty service if not better. Plus you can get it at Costco even if you're not a member and even if you haven't bought the tv there. Make sure you buy it within 60 days of the tv purchase date though or it will be invalid when you need to use it.

Uh...I hope this isn't considered plugging. Somebody did ask about warranties, after all.
post #6419 of 16125
I'm still confused about "Reset" TV. There is reset after FW update, factory reset, simple reset. Can you please bring me some light to :

when and how proper reset should be performed ?
post #6420 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I'm no video pro so don't have equipment, but here are my thoughts. After trying many many settings while playing around and trying out just about every "calibration" in the first 100 pages here and everywhere else on the web, I settled on the basic color & white balance settings of CNET's movie mode setting. A lot of people here already know that but I bring it up because I got the color "right" before setting everything else and have never touched those color and white balance settings in Movie mode. I didn't have to. i did tweak those settings once I put them into Standard mode because of the differences in the two modes, including losing the 10p settings.
I then tweaked the other settings with extras like Dynamic Contract and Black Tone OFF with the Disney WOW BD and the AVS files found at this site for free. Not all panels are the same but like CNET's, mine seemed about right with a Contrast of 100 and Color close to 50 was fine (I did back it off a little though) and Brightness around 46 or 47. That was for Movie mode.
Going back to Standard this past week though, I realize I had to back off on the red gain in white balance though, at least as low as 5 to get it looking about the same as Movie mode. But based on the WOW BD and AVS files, I had to lower the Contrast to 98 and Color to no more than 45. Brightness was about the same (based on similar white balance offsets), but because I raised the Brightness to compensate for automatic screen dimming, I had to lower the offsets to counteract the brightness.
So no, I did not go back to Color Space. But yes, once you change one thing, you have to go back to the others and check and tweak. As for your Backlight, that's irrelevant to your "calibration" really. Set it to what is comfortable with your lighting conditions and change accordingly. Or find a good Backlight for daytime viewing and a good one for night time viewing and instead of changing them manually, set the Brightness for your daytime setting and the ECO mode for your nighttime setting and it will take care of things automatically for you.
Sorry - no time to proof read this right now.
Good luck!

Garnoch,

Have you applied cnets movie mode color and white balance settings to standard either? When you have, how is it compared to Nitra's calibration ?

I'm just wondering why a calibration done in movie mode seems to give the best result in standard ..
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