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post #7471 of 16125
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

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lol.., I wonder if Cinema Black is something that they could bring back with the "Evolution Kit".
Heck, Cinema Black may even be available from within the service menu... Some TV's have features turned off through firmware. Cinema Black didn't appear to be hardware... It seemed to just be a software program that turned off the screens top and bottom led lighting for letterbox movies. The evolution kit intrigues me, I'm still considering on purchasing this TV.

I've been wondering that myself, though I'm not thinking I want to give any more of my money to Samsung after the recent events I've gone through with them even if they did provide anything compelling in their upgrade kits.
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Good to see you, Jestered, and Turbo *cough* Apple *cough* TV *cough* biggrin.gif
Kidding, doubt it will work for your media and how you have it organized unless it's H.264 in iTunes.

Ha! Trust me. I've got more Apple equipment in my house than I can count. I try to use the ATV as much as I can, but there are some things that I need a DLNA server/client for. For those things I use Plex.

Garnoch, I've been looking for a new AVR and I decided on the SR-616. I haven't purchased it yet, but decided that's what I would buy when it was time. I have a 606 but it doesn't support 1.4 HDMI, so I've had to monkey around with how to get my "important" 3D components set up with the ES8000. I'm very close to upgrading my AVR, so I'm very interested in your thoughts on the 616. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it once you've had time to test it out.
post #7473 of 16125
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Originally Posted by turboman123 View Post

What dnla server do you use for streaming to your ES8000?
I want to stream pictures and videos from my PC to the ES8000. I could install the dnla server from Samsung, but there are other servers like Twonky.
What dnla server do you use and recommend? I am looking for a stable server, easy to set up and easy to use?


Install Plex-Server and Download Plex App on the SmartHub.
post #7474 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Jestered View Post

Ha! Trust me. I've got more Apple equipment in my house than I can count. I try to use the ATV as much as I can, but there are some things that I need a DLNA server/client for. For those things I use Plex.
Garnoch, I've been looking for a new AVR and I decided on the SR-616. I haven't purchased it yet, but decided that's what I would buy when it was time. I have a 606 but it doesn't support 1.4 HDMI, so I've had to monkey around with how to get my "important" 3D components set up with the ES8000. I'm very close to upgrading my AVR, so I'm very interested in your thoughts on the 616. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it once you've had time to test it out.
Yeah I've tried Plex before and thought it was great. I want to try it on the ES now that its there, but at this point it may not help much for me. I ripped my whole DVD library plus any new HD stuff I get so now have all H.264s. Around 800 moves, over 100 hours of home movies, plus music and pictures on 8TBs. Metadata added to all with beautiful poster art. It's been a couple years since I messed with Plex though so I want to try it out again.
With any luck, I'll be hiking up and playing with the 616 until the weeee hours. smile.gif I will let you know.
post #7475 of 16125
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

I value your opinion... But I find it hard to believe that Cinema Black was hardware exclusive to the D8000/D-Series... Why, because the ES8000 and ES9000 share the same type of panel.... The D8000 and ES9000 do not.. And the ES9000 has Cinema Black, so why not the ES8000?? Samsung clearly dropped the ball on this great feature that I'm sure everyone with a ES8000 would use or atleast try. The only thing I can think of is that Samsung was hurting for features to justify the ES9000's high price. Folks here paid alot for their flagship ES8000, Samsung should have not removed this feature. Especially when way more ES8000's will be sold over the costly ES9000. smile.gif

Sorry. I never meant to imply that Cinema Black is hardware exclusive to the D series. I know full well it is a feature of the ridiculously overpriced ES9000 model. Rather, I was saying it is a panel-related hardware function. As Garnoch suggested, it may be chip-based. And, it was more than likely left off the ES8000 line to lower production costs or in favor of some other "bell & whistle" feature. Do I wish I had it? Absolutely! Do I think it will be included in the EVO kit when (IF) Samsung ever puts one out? Nope. I genuinely hope I'm wrong about that, though.

BTW, in their always technically vague manner, here is Samsun's "official" explanation of the Cinema Black feature...

Cinema Black: Watch your favourite movies like you would in the theatre with Samsung's Cinema Black technology. Cinema Black automatically controls the letterbox lighting by turning off the lights at the top and bottom for an immersive viewing experience. With Cinema Black, you'll enjoy the benefits of sharp contrast and crisp picture quality.
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CINEMA BLACK: I'd like it based on the description but, i have been 99.9% satisfied with the black bars so far as it has been a non-issue as far as black itself...it's the occasionall flash-light bleed.

BLACK ENHANCER: your collective thoughts please...

BLACK TONE: again, your collective thoughts please...
post #7477 of 16125
I don't expect it to be included in the kit either, but it sure would be nice. I'm hoping the upgrade will have obvious picture benefits. If its under $300, I would upgrade for sure with picture benefits. If it's just hub type stuff I'll probably skip it though.
post #7478 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

CINEMA BLACK: I'd like it based on the description but, i have been 99.9% satisfied with the black bars so far as it has been a non-issue as far as black itself...it's the occasionall flash-light bleed.
BLACK ENHANCER: your collective thoughts please...
BLACK TONE: again, your collective thoughts please...

Unless you like to look at crushed blacks and loss of a lot of shadow detail, I would highly recommend not to use either of those features. Same goes with Dynamic Contrast, That is a no no and will only crush your blacks and shadow detail.



-Bad Boy Bill
post #7479 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Unless you like to look at crushed blacks and loss of a lot of shadow detail, I would highly recommend not to use either of those features. Same goes with Dynamic Contrast, That is a no no and will only crush your blacks and shadow detail.
-Bad Boy Bill

I agree, I don't use these features as the black levels are deep enough without them anyway
post #7480 of 16125
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Originally Posted by RickS View Post

I have had the 5308 for almost 5 years now and at the time was way ahead of its time. I am just using it as a pre/pro/video switcher (11 channels of external amps). It does an excellent job of video processing. I have added a OPPO BDP-105 to my system lately with dual HDMI outputs one to the Denon for HD audio processing and one will go direct to the new projector for 1.4 spec 3-D movie watching since the Denon will not pass through 3-D. Here is the detail below on the video processing.
"The AVR-5308CI’s extensive video facilities center around the Silicon Optix Realta HQV video processor, which many consider to be the best solution on a consumer chip. It can upconvert any incoming video format to 1080p, outputting it via HDMI. The video switching facilities include six HDMI 1.3a inputs, five sets of component video inputs, and two HDMI and two component video outputs."

RickS

Everything I've read about the Darbee Darblet indicates that it is most effective on projector systems. It's "hit and miss" with LCD/LED's. Some like it, some say that for the very small difference in the picture, it's not worth it. Others have said that it is very cheaply made. And...it sure is an ugly sucker - - "fugly" is probably a better term for it.

But if I can get a little bit better picture - - then I might try it. But only with a solid return policy - - like from Amazon.

Thanks for the update.

Rico
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Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 View Post

CINEMA BLACK: I'd like it based on the description but, i have been 99.9% satisfied with the black bars so far as it has been a non-issue as far as black itself...it's the occasionall flash-light bleed.
BLACK ENHANCER: your collective thoughts please...
BLACK TONE: again, your collective thoughts please...

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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Unless you like to look at crushed blacks and loss of a lot of shadow detail, I would highly recommend not to use either of those features. Same goes with Dynamic Contrast, That is a no no and will only crush your blacks and shadow detail.
-Bad Boy Bill

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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

I agree, I don't use these features as the black levels are deep enough without them anyway

I had stopped using Dynamic Contrast a while ago in Standard (like it in Movie but only on it's lowest setting). Black Tone on it's lowest setting I do use and like, and on the lowest setting, you can manage to not crush blacks, yet diminish flashlighting and clouding nicely.

Black Enhancer creates a minimal CE Dimming effect and I don't like it at all.
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

RickS
But if I can get a little bit better picture - - then I might try it. But only with a solid return policy - - like from Amazon.
Thanks for the update.
Rico
Somebody buy the freaking thing and test in on our set. It sounds more like a program that averages exposures on a cellphone camera than a signal upgrader. I've got HDR Camera on my Samsung Galax Nexus and it supposedly works like that. The pix are better.
post #7483 of 16125
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Somebody buy the freaking thing and test in on our set. It sounds more like a program that averages exposures on a cellphone camera than a signal upgrader. I've got HDR Camera on my Samsung Galax Nexus and it supposedly works like that. The pix are better.

I nominate "Garnoch, the Magnificent!" smile.gif
post #7484 of 16125
I'll never get my speakers or guitar if I do that - I like the title that haha. i am considering it though but not for a couple months, so don't hold your breath.
post #7485 of 16125
Someone send Garnoch a bottle of jack and email him the link to the Darbee. He is bound to buy it in a Jack induced state of mind.
post #7486 of 16125
The whole evolution kit wont see the light of day, trust me...how many devices over the years have we seen with expansion ports that never materialized? remmber back in the day when the super nintendo, sega, the atari jaguar...all had these expansion ports...its a nice idea, but maybe 5% of these devices come out with something to attach to it...

Im not holding my breath, just sayn' !!!!!!!!!
post #7487 of 16125
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Originally Posted by aaronwalker1974 View Post

Someone send Garnoch a bottle of jack and email him the link to the Darbee. He is bound to buy it in a Jack induced state of mind.

That actually made me laugh - and scared me! I can picture that happening tonight at 2am as I'm trying to finish setting up the Onkyo haha! I'll tell you guys what - send me a Darbee with a link to a bottle of Jack and you've got a deal.
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Originally Posted by EndeaverouX View Post

The whole evolution kit wont see the light of day, trust me...how many devices over the years have we seen with expansion ports that never materialized? remmber back in the day when the super nintendo, sega, the atari jaguar...all had these expansion ports...its a nice idea, but maybe 5% of these devices come out with something to attach to it...
Im not holding my breath, just sayn' !!!!!!!!!

I've had that same thought, but now I have to knock on wood. It was definitely a selling point that edged this set over a couple others so that would tick me off. Granted I'm glad I got it anyway even if there is never an update, but that would be shady enough for me to consider skipping them for my next TV I think.
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Originally Posted by EndeaverouX View Post

The whole evolution kit wont see the light of day, trust me...how many devices over the years have we seen with expansion ports that never materialized? remmber back in the day when the super nintendo, sega, the atari jaguar...all had these expansion ports...its a nice idea, but maybe 5% of these devices come out with something to attach to it...
Im not holding my breath, just sayn' !!!!!!!!!

Ahhh... Memories! lol

How about the Sega CD add on!!! And the TurboGrafx CD add on..... And Sega 32 add on for sega genesis!! All crap..... I hope Samsung can do better i just ordered a 60ES8000. smile.gif

I think the Samsung rep from the 2012 shoot out mentioned more memory for sure... I don't consider that a big deal.. If that's all it gets.

BTW.... The 60ES8000 floor model I looked at at Best Buy had firmware 001013.. How old is that firmware? It had quite a bit of flashlighting.
Edited by badabing - 12/7/12 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

Ahhh... Memories! lol
How about the Sega CD add on!!! And the TurboGrafx CD add on..... And Sega 32 add on for sega genesis!! All crap..... I hope Samsung can do better i just ordered a 60ES8000. smile.gif
I think the Samsung rep from the 2012 shoot out mentioned more memory for sure... I don't consider that a big deal.. If that's all it gets.
BTW.... The 60ES8000 floor model I looked at at Best Buy had firmware 001013.. How old is that firmware? It had quite a bit of flashlighting.
I think ricoflash id running on firware1013, iknow someone is. the flashlighting is probably because of the blown settings and back light.

congrats!
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Originally Posted by Derek Gosselin View Post

I think ricoflash id running on, i know someone is. the flashlighting is probably because of the blown settings and back light.
congrats!

Tnx.... So 001013 is the latest.
Edited by badabing - 12/7/12 at 11:07am
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Originally Posted by Derek Gosselin View Post

I think ricoflash id running on firware1013, iknow someone is. the flashlighting is probably because of the blown settings and back light.
congrats!

Blade - he's running 0001. smile.gif
Congrats, Badabing! When do you get it? I'm sure glad you mentioned Flash. I'll be checking it on my end tonight. Naughty website here I come! Then again, I have the AVR to take care of.
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

Tnx.... So 001013 in the latest.

No, in the U.S. its 1041.1

Europe has different numbers and they've had at least one update since us, so I've been expecting another soon.
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

Ahhh... Memories! lol
How about the Sega CD add on!!! And the TurboGrafx CD add on..... And Sega 32 add on for sega genesis!! All crap..... I hope Samsung can do better i just ordered a 60ES8000. smile.gif
I think the Samsung rep from the 2012 shoot out mentioned more memory for sure... I don't consider that a big deal.. If that's all it gets.
BTW.... The 60ES8000 floor model I looked at at Best Buy had firmware 001013.. How old is that firmware? It had quite a bit of flashlighting.

my latest firmware is 001041...thats a month old too...i checked last week, that was the lastest....
post #7495 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

No, in the U.S. its 1041.1
Europe has different numbers and they've had at least one update since us, so I've been expecting another soon.

Actually, I'm on an advanced firmware update directly from Samsung - 999.99 (kind of a Herman Cain numbering system).

No banding, no flashlighting, incredible blacks, Internet apps. including "Funky Birds" work without any flaws and tonight, I'm getting a "one way" stream via our Sammy cameras to Garnoch setting up his Onkyo. I'll post the pictures when I see that his bottle of Jack is half gone.
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Actually, I'm on an advanced firmware update directly from Samsung - 999.99 (kind of a Herman Cain numbering system).
No banding, no flashlighting, incredible blacks, Internet apps. including "Funky Birds" work without any flaws and tonight, I'm getting a "one way" stream via our Sammy cameras to Garnoch setting up his Onkyo. I'll post the pictures when I see that his bottle of Jack is half gone.
Cool.... let us know when he orders the darbee wink.gif
post #7497 of 16125
Oh man that was good. I'll make sure I have clothes on then. I'll be swearing a lot too probably. Every time I do this I tell myself to order freaking banana plugs. If one of you send me a Darbee for Saturday delivery, I'll probably think I ordered it tonight express.
I want that Cain FW
post #7498 of 16125
UN55ES8000 delivered this morning. biggrin.gif

I gotta say, I didn't realize how paranoid I get in this thread until I saw the picture on this thing. I couldn't be happier! Especially after finding it at a sub-2k price!

Btw - I tried the 2D to 3D conversion. I've never actually used active glasses before, but wow the flicker was very noticeable to me.
post #7499 of 16125
Yeah the conversion is fun a couple of times, but that's about it. A Blu-ray though - even my wife and I became believers. Looked great on this TV. I know what you mean about paranoid while reading threads like this though. Congrats and glad you're happy with yours and nice price!
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Under camera all black pixels. Wtf. Just turned on set.

I didn't grab screen at all when setting up.

What you think
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