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post #7531 of 16127
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

I tried to test it out but even with every light in my room on, the camera still said there wasn't enough light available so I couldn't use the camera function, so I couldn't actually start the game and see. I even took the shade off one lamp, and it still said it was too dark. Great motion tech there.

WOW man, my room was pretty dark and camera came right on?

TV kinda high on stand to see me on couch, it grabs the window behind me and top of my head..but im use to high monitors and tvs so its no bother.
post #7532 of 16127
yeh theres a little roller wheeel in the back of the camera, it probably covered with a protective film that ll have to be removed first
post #7533 of 16127
SQURE TRADE WARRANTY
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Originally Posted by Shagz View Post

... Read on here about SquareTrade 99.00 and costco deal. not sure how to get this not purchasing tv from costco.Info on this much appreciated.
thank you for your time

I recently did this online and it couldn't be simpler or faster. You purchase the ST at Costco website for $99 (and pay a small extra fee if you're not a member). You get an email from ST and follow the link to their site where you fill in some basic info inclu model # date and place of purchase. Done.

As I recently posted, IMO this ST warranty is a great value and provides peace of mind on a big purchase at minimal additional cost. It appears to me that they have a good rep, the coverage appears to be broad and inclusive and service is from local shops in-home.

Note to new and prospective owners:

YOU HAVE ONLY 60 DAYS from date of purchase to purchase the ST warranty. Do it.smile.gif
post #7534 of 16127
Thanks to this great AVS forum, I heard about the Squaretrade warranty after I ordered the 65". Asked about it at my local Costco in Canada and they said the TV had to be purchased at Costco. I told them that they don't sell the model I wanted (ES8000) and they asked a manager type who "confirmed" that Squaretrade was limited to Costco TVs. I indicated I would confirm with Squaretrade and got a bit of a dirty look. Squaretrade agent confirmed TV does not have to be purchased at Costco to qualify for the warranty purchased at Costco. I will get it online.

While on the topic of box store staff, I was looking for a 65" to compare at a few larger stores in the Toronto area (none had a 65ES8000) and asked a Best Buy management type if there was some wiggle room on the price (I know they could do this as a Futureshop manager said he would wiggle months before but that was in an entirely different city). His emphatic and somewhat rude response suggested I better stick with a reputable AV dealer who gave a decent discount and probably better warranty service. On the surface, it appears there are bargains at box stores but it doesn't hurt to do your homework.

Great forum here. Thanks everyone.
post #7535 of 16127
I spy with my little eye, ricoflash seems to have beat garnoch to the punch on the darbee..
post #7536 of 16127
Hey Garnoch,

You offered to start a wiki list of calibration definitions for non-technical types like me. Thanks for offering to do that. I think there are some of us who need an Idiot's Guide to Checking Your New TV and then Try Calibrating It. Some are interested in things like clouding, flashlighting, banding, etc. etc. but we have to search through hundreds of pages to find out what these terms mean.

I think a simple list would help a lot.

1. The technical term used by user's. e.g., clouding.
2. A straightforward definition as it applies to LED TV.
3. A dummy example to put it into beginner terms. "This is like you're flying through a cloud on certain parts of your TV" - I made that up; I have no idea what clouding is.
4. If there is a problem with this item, a recommended possible fix. e.g., "Try turning your contrast down". - or whatever.

If we had a list like this, we could go through the items, one at a time, like a pilot going through a checklist to see how our TV is performing. Then when people ask about my new 65" I could know how to respond beyond "it's fantastic... I'm blown away... best TV I ever had".

I don't know where this list could be posted.... maybe some kind of sticky, along with a few good calibration settings? All we need is someone to start it and then perhaps others could tweak it. If it's really good, this could end up on Wikipedia for the masses.

Thanks for considering.
post #7537 of 16127
I seem to post 3 messages in a row so here goes #3.

If you have all your components input to the AVR and then only HDMI from AVR to TV (no Darby at this stage), does the IR Blaster work with anything? Or is the Blaster only when you have components go directly to the TV? I think I'm working with about 7 remotes now but don't recommend a universal as I got one for Christmas for the upstairs HT and it's not perfect. My wife's happy with it though. I'm just wondering if the Samsung Blaster will help when components go to the AVR.

Thanks.
post #7538 of 16127
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

I played around with the Plex app last night a bit. I installed the app through the smarthub and the server on my pc and set up some libraries to try out. Impressive, and I'm sure it's great for many people. For me, the interface doesn't work for what I need.
It's clearly meant for supplying poster art for each film. The shape of the space on the tv screen for the artwork is vertical. Unfortunately, I have a lot of very hard to find animated films and animated shorts from various sources over the years, many foreign, that have no poster art at all. In this case, the plex software on my pc generates thumbnails and previews, but the problem is that for many of my clips, they are widescreen, and when the plex app displays the artwork for each clip on screen, it is squishing the widescreen preview image it generated into the vertical area of the poster art frame, so everything on the screen looks just awful. If it allowed for horizontal previews instead of just vertical poster art, this would be a very nice interface. As it is, it really only looks useful if you have real films with poster art available - lots of clips and shorts don't work well for that preview display issue.
Also, I found many clips wouldn't play due to lack of codec support, even though they play fine on my pc through other players. So many clips of various file types wouldn't play through the plex app.
A big downside is that I can't change aspect ratio from 4:3 to 16:9 - just like the restriction in 3D mode, which is a shame. Some of my animated clips I have gathered over the years were encoded in the wrong aspect ratio, or maybe a flag is set wrong - no problem if I can change the aspect ratio, but I can't through the app. So those clips are unwatchable.
Another annoyance is the way the bottom interface pops up every time you fast forward or pause. Why is that necessary? I can appreciate that being available if I want to manually bring up that pop-up progress bar, because it allows you to effortlessly scan through the video. But if I just want to hit pause or fast-forward, that still pops up and stays there for as long as I fast forward. What if I want to fast forward for a bit but I want to see the whole screen, including the bottom? In that case, there's nothing I can do about it.
It also would have been nice if I could control the video playback on the tv screen from the plex software on my pc, like windows media player allows me to do. So I can sit by the computer and control the playback in the software instead of needing the remote handy. There doesn't seem to be a way to do this unless I'm missing something.
Overall, it's just not something I would be using due to those reasons, even though it shows huge potential. Are there any other apps or alternatives that would do something similar but maybe address some of those drawbacks?

Thats unfortunate, I'm not so much concerned with the ui as I am with the lack of support for certain filetypes. I was hoping this would be good alternative to my dated Boxee Box (HDMI 1.3a), but looks as though my best bet at this point is the PCH A-400. :/
post #7539 of 16127
Some snippage here...
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Originally Posted by canadian55 View Post

While on the topic of box store staff, I was looking for a 65" to compare at a few larger stores in the Toronto area (none had a 65ES8000) and asked a Best Buy management type if there was some wiggle room on the price (I know they could do this as a Futureshop manager said he would wiggle months before but that was in an entirely different city). His emphatic and somewhat rude response suggested I better stick with a reputable AV dealer who gave a decent discount and probably better warranty service. On the surface, it appears there are bargains at box stores but it doesn't hurt to do your homework.
Great forum here. Thanks everyone.

I was pleasantly surprised (on Black Friday) to see that the Magnolia centers inside the Best Buy stores were not only willing to price-match against Amazon (on the 65ES8000) but had proactively reduced the price to match without having to twist arms. The problem was the sets were in extremely short supply. At 10 AM that morning there was only 1 left in stock (new/unopened) at a store 25 miles on the other side of town (Houston, TX). Considering there are more than 25 BB stores in the area, it almost appears they had little/no intention of featuring them. We did manage to snag that 1 set smile.gif but were alarmed to see BB/Magnolia had their display model running in "torch mode" and then were using it as a comparison (whipping post) against correctly adjusted Panasonic Viera models, which the store was obviously pushing. In fact the sales droid, not knowing I had already made my decision, was trying to sway me and kept pointing out all the "flaws" in the PQ.

In our travels about town, we have not yet seen the 65ES8000 on display in either Sam's Club, Wal*Mart, or Costco, but no real surprise as those stores tend to cater more to the bargain hunters and a lot of low & mid-tier shoppers, stocking the stuff that moves quickly vs. taking up space with higher-end mdse that doesn't.. By comparison, Fry's, Modia Home Theater & Magnolia are all the local haunts if you're in the market for something appealing to those with more discerning tastes. Only my 2¢
post #7540 of 16127
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Originally Posted by Derek Gosselin View Post

I spy with my little eye, ricoflash seems to have beat garnoch to the punch on the darbee..

And the winner of the Ricoflashback Darbee offer is....drum roll please....Ricoflashback!!!

Geez, can't slip anything past you guys!

I was waiting for Garnoch to step up to the plate but he's been preoccupied with his Onkyo installation and has been AWOL for a while.

I spent a lot of time researching the Darbee Darblet and for the most part, it's gotten very good reviews. I went ahead and ordered it from Amazon Prime so just in case it doesn't work for me - - I can return within thirty days - - no questions asked.

If I can squeeze every single ounce of PQ out of my Sammy set, I'm gonna try to do it. I'll let everyone know how it works.

Lastly - - enjoying the new soundfields with my Pioneer SC-65 - - primarily Dolby IIz and DTS Neo:X. While the channels are matrixed or "upmixed," at best, with 5.1 & 7.1 to 11.1 - - it does provide a deeper and wider soundstage.

I also bought the Expendables II that was one of the first movies specifically upmixed (encoded?) for 11.1 DTS Neo:X. It even has a DTS Neo sound check on the disc. A little disappointed in that they really didn't encode anything for the "wide" speakers, but overall, pretty nice!

The movie is hilarious - - very corny and definitely not a chick flick. A real macho, shoot em up, blow everything up type of movie with what one reviewer said, and I quote, "A cast of washed up actors!"

The absolute best movie for your "bros" after coming home from a WWF event. Knock down a couple brews or Jack and jack up the speakers to MAX and enjoy the carnage. Not recommended for sensitive women, those who hate loud sounds or want to converse during a movie without shouting...smile.gif
post #7541 of 16127
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

And the winner of the Ricoflashback Darbee offer is....drum roll please....Ricoflashback!!!
Geez, can't slip anything past you guys!
I was waiting for Garnoch to step up to the plate but he's been preoccupied with his Onkyo installation and has been AWOL for a while.
I spent a lot of time researching the Darbee Darblet and for the most part, it's gotten very good reviews. I went ahead and ordered it from Amazon Prime so just in case it doesn't work for me - - I can return within thirty days - - no questions asked.
If I can squeeze every single ounce of PQ out of my Sammy set, I'm gonna try to do it. I'll let everyone know how it works.
Lastly - - enjoying the new soundfields with my Pioneer SC-65 - - primarily Dolby IIz and DTS Neo:X. While the channels are matrixed or "upmixed," at best, with 5.1 & 7.1 to 11.1 - - it does provide a deeper and wider soundstage.
I also bought the Expendables II that was one of the first movies specifically upmixed (encoded?) for 11.1 DTS Neo:X. It even has a DTS Neo sound check on the disc. A little disappointed in that they really didn't encode anything for the "wide" speakers, but overall, pretty nice!
The movie is hilarious - - very corny and definitely not a chick flick. A real macho, shoot em up, blow everything up type of movie with what one reviewer said, and I quote, "A cast of washed up actors!"
The absolute best movie for your "bros" after coming home from a WWF event. Knock down a couple brews or Jack and jack up the speakers to MAX and enjoy the carnage. Not recommended for sensitive women, those who hate loud sounds or want to converse during a movie without shouting...smile.gif

sweet movie..! punch lines and explosions galore.
Hopefully you get good results from your darbee. i've got three things on my wishlist darbee / dvdo edge green / harmony one remote
you have an eta on delivery?
post #7542 of 16127
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Originally Posted by canadian55 View Post

I seem to post 3 messages in a row so here goes #3.
If you have all your components input to the AVR and then only HDMI from AVR to TV (no Darby at this stage), does the IR Blaster work with anything? Or is the Blaster only when you have components go directly to the TV? I think I'm working with about 7 remotes now but don't recommend a universal as I got one for Christmas for the upstairs HT and it's not perfect. My wife's happy with it though. I'm just wondering if the Samsung Blaster will help when components go to the AVR.
Thanks.
....Canada, I have all 4 source's going direct to the panel via 3 hdmi's and 1 composite for my vhs!! yes, that right ...vhs babyy!!! LOL...My 8000 optical out goes to the soundbar...anyway, my Harmony One controlls everything flawlessly.

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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Black enhancer:
I posted about this back on post #4419, post #4423 and post #4428.
I found it acted very odd and does not do what you would expect it to do. It's somehow linked to CE-Dimming. What's puzzling is that the Samsung-provided explanations for what they do in the menu descriptions are exactly the same for both black tone and black enhancer, even though they are very different. The effect of black enhancer is very subtle and hard to see. I had to play around with it quite a bit to figure out what it was doing. Keeping the menu up helped me to see what was going on during my tests.
Black tone on the other hand is very different, and it makes a noticeable difference in the appearance of blacks. It can help provide a much deeper black, but often at the cost of clipping. I use it on it's lowest setting to help with blacks somewhat. In some content, like some types of animation, where clipping may not be an issue, black enhancer could be used even higher to provide very deep blacks. But in normal viewing it does impact the shadows too much.
...Thanks Eagle. I revisted my settings in Movie mode and both are off.

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Originally Posted by Shagz View Post

I opted not to get the extended warranty from Hhgregg. Read on here about SquareTrade 99.00 and costco deal. not sure how to get this not purchasing tv from costco.
Info on this much appreciated.
thank you for your time
....Yea, Shag, I bought my panel at HHgregg but the price on their warranter was tooo shagadelic for my wallet. I went 3rd party as well for about a c note.

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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Unless you like to look at crushed blacks and loss of a lot of shadow detail, I would highly recommend not to use either of those features. Same goes with Dynamic Contrast, That is a no no and will only crush your blacks and shadow detail.
-Bad Boy Bill
...Boltasaurus Rex, i'm with you on that...Both are turned off. I did reduce my backlight from 12 to 10 and it made a sweet difference on flashlighting minimizing even more the one and only boogey i have about this panel...not that its been an issue.....hey, i bet you ordered you ordered your 8000 by now! biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

I agree, I don't use these features as the black levels are deep enough without them anyway
...Arenaball, I totally agree...black, black and never been an issue. Now that I reduced backlight from 12 to 10..blacker yet....

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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

RickS
Everything I've read about the Darbee Darblet indicates that it is most effective on projector systems. It's "hit and miss" with LCD/LED's. Some like it, some say that for the very small difference in the picture, it's not worth it. Others have said that it is very cheaply made. And...it sure is an ugly sucker - - "fugly" is probably a better term for it.
But if I can get a little bit better picture - - then I might try it. But only with a solid return policy - - like from Amazon.
Thanks for the update.
Rico
...ricoSuave, totally agree...fugleeeeee...I read the reviews from the link earlier and HomeTheater....tempted but no way. I worked to streamline my setup and reduce hardware and cabling. ....I'd much rather use that cash toward an upgrade to a OPPO 103...read that review. With its hdmi input, the 103 video muscle can benefit other sources!!!
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Blade - he's running 0001. smile.gif
Congrats, Badabing! When do you get it? I'm sure glad you mentioned Flash. I'll be checking it on my end tonight. Naughty website here I come! Then again, I have the AVR to take care of.
...G, you got me!!! I'm on fw -000-0001....and i'm watching everything down rez'd to 240i.. LOL... yea, i'm still on 1013 and loving that fact even more. As I mentioned above, and you know me. the only issue i have really spoken to is flashlight. It was enhanced somewhat when i went to Movie mode from Standard...and I definately love the MOVIE mode...been on this one the longest and have zero desire to move. BUT...reducing backlight to 10 from 12 made significant reduction in flashlight.

The only tweak i'm planning is to make sure my 3d mode is set to movie settings ....
post #7543 of 16127
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Originally Posted by Shagz View Post

that movie was a shocker to me when i was a kid..thanks ill have to watch it again now smile.gif
Sorry to hear your troubles. next few days i will run mine thru the gauntlet. what do you think is best to FIND flaws in this TV.
So far so good in the 1hr i was testing rippedd movies. none were GOOD quality, best one i tested was transformers the movie BD rip, then again an 80s cartoon, lol
Keep the faith man. Hope all goes well for you.

Thanks, I appreciate it. Well, you could always try out Silent Night wink.gif , that's what I watched the other night and the clouding was really apparent on that one, partly because the film had letterbox bars, so it was very easy to see on the bottom letterbox bar, but it also extended over the bottom of the image as well. I wouldn't really recommend that film though, it was somewhat watchable but not great, and Malcolm McDowell was rather cheesy in it. The original was great, it stuck with me when I watched it in the 80's. Any dark film, especially with letterbox bars, should help reveal flaws, since there have been a few people in the thread who have mentioned the V-shaped cloud at the bottom of their screen.
post #7544 of 16127
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Originally Posted by Derek Gosselin View Post

yeh theres a little roller wheeel in the back of the camera, it probably covered with a protective film that ll have to be removed first

I checked and there's no protective film over the camera.
post #7545 of 16127
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Originally Posted by canadian55 View Post

Thanks to this great AVS forum, I heard about the Squaretrade warranty after I ordered the 65". Asked about it at my local Costco in Canada and they said the TV had to be purchased at Costco. I told them that they don't sell the model I wanted (ES8000) and they asked a manager type who "confirmed" that Squaretrade was limited to Costco TVs. I indicated I would confirm with Squaretrade and got a bit of a dirty look. Squaretrade agent confirmed TV does not have to be purchased at Costco to qualify for the warranty purchased at Costco. I will get it online.
While on the topic of box store staff, I was looking for a 65" to compare at a few larger stores in the Toronto area (none had a 65ES8000) and asked a Best Buy management type if there was some wiggle room on the price (I know they could do this as a Futureshop manager said he would wiggle months before but that was in an entirely different city). His emphatic and somewhat rude response suggested I better stick with a reputable AV dealer who gave a decent discount and probably better warranty service. On the surface, it appears there are bargains at box stores but it doesn't hurt to do your homework.
Great forum here. Thanks everyone.

Yeah when I bought my squaretrade plan at Costco, nobody knew anything. Two different employees told me I couldn't buy the plan unless I bought the tv from them. Poor customer service, or at least poor training somewhere. They were very friendly though, and seemed genuinely surprised when I told them how it works and that you don't need to buy the tv from them to qualify. But I shouldn't need to tell them how to do their jobs.
post #7546 of 16127
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Originally Posted by canadian55 View Post

Thanks to this great AVS forum, I heard about the Squaretrade warranty after I ordered the 65". Asked about it at my local Costco in Canada and they said the TV had to be purchased at Costco. I told them that they don't sell the model I wanted (ES8000) and they asked a manager type who "confirmed" that Squaretrade was limited to Costco TVs. I indicated I would confirm with Squaretrade and got a bit of a dirty look. Squaretrade agent confirmed TV does not have to be purchased at Costco to qualify for the warranty purchased at Costco. I will get it online.

While on the topic of box store staff, I was looking for a 65" to compare at a few larger stores in the Toronto area (none had a 65ES8000) and asked a Best Buy management type if there was some wiggle room on the price (I know they could do this as a Futureshop manager said he would wiggle months before but that was in an entirely different city). His emphatic and somewhat rude response suggested I better stick with a reputable AV dealer who gave a decent discount and probably better warranty service. On the surface, it appears there are bargains at box stores but it doesn't hurt to do your homework.

Great forum here. Thanks everyone.

The for the Costco Canada Square Trade info. Do you know what Costco's 'Concierge service' is?

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'2 Years Costco Concierge Plus 3 Years, Extended Protection = 5 Years Total | Item # 297903"

Will Costco honour this Concierge Service for a TV not purchased from them? Thx.

Sent from THE GODFATHER (Samsung Galaxy Note II)
post #7547 of 16127
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Originally Posted by Derek Gosselin View Post

sweet movie..! punch lines and explosions galore.
Hopefully you get good results from your darbee. i've got three things on my wishlist darbee / dvdo edge green / harmony one remote
you have an eta on delivery?

Darbee Darblet ordered last night .... and not during a drunken stupor.

Amazon Prime will have it to my door by next Tuesday PM. It is an ugly looking little devil, but I'm going to run the HDMI cables on the ground since it's got an awkward interface - - side to side entry points for HDMI "in" and HDMI "out." as opposed to rear entry. smile.gif It's only a little bigger than a credit card and fits in the palm of your hand.

I really didn't want to spend the extra money but some of the write ups have been pretty phenomenal. It sounds like a no brainer for projectors and I'm very interested to see how it handles our Sammy LCD/LED's. Merry Xmas to me!
post #7548 of 16127
Blade, Boltasaurus Rex HA! Love it. He might too. To help your flashlighting, I'd say give the lowest setting of Black Tone a try. You might be surprised that it can help much more than it hurts.

RFB!!!! You didn't even give any suckers a chance to send me a bottle first, very disappointed!! Why am I not surprised you bought it haha, very nice! I actually can't wait to hear thoughts on this with the ES. Yes I've been AWOL on the Onkyo. I'll get to that in a bit since some of you seem interested.
post #7549 of 16127
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

I checked and there's no protective film over the camera.

He meant the wheel might have something over it - mine did. By the way, I think it was either RFB, Blade, Nitra or Ops that said that about Samsung making sure you're happy. I'd keep bugging them but I understand if you gave up. Bee there... most recently with Sony.
post #7550 of 16127
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Originally Posted by Shagz View Post

I opted not to get the extended warranty from Hhgregg. Read on here about SquareTrade 99.00 and costco deal. not sure how to get this not purchasing tv from costco.
Info on this much appreciated.
thank you for your time

I started talking about the Costco Square Trade how to and my experience here.....
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399319/official-samsung-unxxes8000-owners-thread/5310#post_22481244
post #7551 of 16127
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Originally Posted by canadian55 View Post

Hey Garnoch,
You offered to start a wiki list of calibration definitions for non-technical types like me. Thanks for offering to do that. I think there are some of us who need an Idiot's Guide to Checking Your New TV and then Try Calibrating It. Some are interested in things like clouding, flashlighting, banding, etc. etc. but we have to search through hundreds of pages to find out what these terms mean.
I think a simple list would help a lot.
1. The technical term used by user's. e.g., clouding.
2. A straightforward definition as it applies to LED TV.
3. A dummy example to put it into beginner terms. "This is like you're flying through a cloud on certain parts of your TV" - I made that up; I have no idea what clouding is.
4. If there is a problem with this item, a recommended possible fix. e.g., "Try turning your contrast down". - or whatever.
If we had a list like this, we could go through the items, one at a time, like a pilot going through a checklist to see how our TV is performing. Then when people ask about my new 65" I could know how to respond beyond "it's fantastic... I'm blown away... best TV I ever had".
I don't know where this list could be posted.... maybe some kind of sticky, along with a few good calibration settings? All we need is someone to start it and then perhaps others could tweak it. If it's really good, this could end up on Wikipedia for the masses.
Thanks for considering.

Hey, Canada. I have to say all those are really a great idea. I don't know if I have the time to be quite that specific but I will try. I had said I would try it this weekend, but since RFB ruined my possibility of getting some Jack in the mail, I'm thinking of holding our for a price haha. As for where to post it, that the hard part. I don't have the ability to Sticky and I doubt non ES users would appreciate it, so what I'm going to do is post it here then create a direct link in my sig like My Settings are right now. Then anyone can correct me or add to it by writing here or PMing me and I'll edit that post to include it. The day I stop posting, anyone who cares can copy my post, make it their own and continue it.
post #7552 of 16127
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Darbee Darblet ordered last night .... and not during a drunken stupor.
Amazon Prime will have it to my door by next Tuesday PM. It is an ugly looking little devil, but I'm going to run the HDMI cables on the ground since it's got an awkward interface - - side to side entry points for HDMI "in" and HDMI "out." as opposed to rear entry. smile.gif It's only a little bigger than a credit card and fits in the palm of your hand.
I really didn't want to spend the extra money but some of the write ups have been pretty phenomenal. It sounds like a no brainer for projectors and I'm very interested to see how it handles our Sammy LCD/LED's. Merry Xmas to me!

lol im on the edge of buying one myself
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

I checked and there's no protective film over the camera.
You probably allready removed it, when new the entire set is covered with protective film all over the place, the adjust camera i had to remove one covering the adjustment wheel in the rear.
post #7554 of 16127
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Originally Posted by canadian55 View Post

I seem to post 3 messages in a row so here goes #3.
If you have all your components input to the AVR and then only HDMI from AVR to TV (no Darby at this stage), does the IR Blaster work with anything? Or is the Blaster only when you have components go directly to the TV? I think I'm working with about 7 remotes now but don't recommend a universal as I got one for Christmas for the upstairs HT and it's not perfect. My wife's happy with it though. I'm just wondering if the Samsung Blaster will help when components go to the AVR.
Thanks.

The IR Blaster should work regardless of how it's set up but I'm honestly not sure and don't use it. I had read that it only works with Samsung or certain gear, but then also read that's not the case. I use the Hot Link Pro IR repeater which works great and their support is good as well. I also use a Harmony 700 (getting 900 for Christmas) which works perfectly at everything I throw at it. I have ONE remote on my table and switch between inputs and controlling it's device with the push of one button. Love it.
post #7555 of 16127
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Originally Posted by Jestered View Post

Ha! Trust me. I've got more Apple equipment in my house than I can count. I try to use the ATV as much as I can, but there are some things that I need a DLNA server/client for. For those things I use Plex.
Garnoch, I've been looking for a new AVR and I decided on the SR-616. I haven't purchased it yet, but decided that's what I would buy when it was time. I have a 606 but it doesn't support 1.4 HDMI, so I've had to monkey around with how to get my "important" 3D components set up with the ES8000. I'm very close to upgrading my AVR, so I'm very interested in your thoughts on the 616. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it once you've had time to test it out.

Alrighty, I spent 11pm to 3am last night setting up the 616. First, so far I am VERY happy with my purchase, especially since I snagged it for only $300 refurbished. But I now realize that their refurbished stuff only comes with a one year warranty.

The other bad thing is about the massive amount of 8 HDMI inputs. If we forget about the one on the front, that leaves me with 7. Out of those 7, only 5 have a direct remote coded on the remote. Inputs "7 & 8" are considered "Extra" and "Extra" inputs can only be accessed via going to a menu. You can though assign HDMI 7 to the input TV/CD which does have a remote code, but you need that input for ARC, so really you can't do that. So that left me with 5 HDMI inputs Not just that but there are only so many direct remote codes for inputs period, regardless of the source. Meaning I connected a VCR to it and took made that the Game input. That means I couldn't use the HDMI input named Game. If I had used the Component In, I would have had to assign it and lose a connection somewhere else. So even though there is 1 Component in, 4 Composite ins and 8 HDMI ins, here are the inputs they can be mapped to....
Direct Remote Codes
BD/DVD
CBL/SAT
STB/DVR
GAME
PC
TV/CD
AUX (Front)
Menu Driven Inputs
Extra 1
Extra 2
So this kind of stinks but really wasn't an issue as I only had 4 HDMI Connections. Plus I have more Component, Composite and HDMI connections on the TV while using ARC, so it will be very hard for this to be a problem. I spent a lot of time talking about the negative so it's understood, but it didn't bother me.

Getting ARC to work to a little time and I realized I had to go into the 616 menu and turn two things on. It's documented, I just didn't read carefully enough. Even after I got it working though, I thought it wasn't which cased more time, because the TV wasn't outputting sound effects for the ES's menus. When I turned on something like Netflix from the SmartHub though, it was actually working.

The OSD and menu in general was nicer than I expected though it took some getting used to. The volume on the TV looks very nice, creating a transparent black bar across the whole bottom of the TV with the volume read out on top of it. I know a lot of you are Apple fans and I respect that, but I have yet to use any device that has menus as smooth or good looking as an Apple TV and this is no different. But nicer than I expected, so I was happy.

I am not using any video processing and didn't buy it for that so can't comment, although this isn't like RFB's Elite with that great video processing. I'm very happy with the ES's and want to be able to judge settings on the ES itself and post here about it. I went into the menu on each input to turn off the default video settings and while I was at it, I named each input accordingly.

A zone 2 and 3 will come in handy down the road when I install speakers on the patio.

The USB input can except media players but I haven't tested it.

The USB on the back is being used for the WiFi dongle which worked great, allowing me to update the 616's firmware and giving me access to all the streamable stuff under the NET input, which I haven't used yet and actually may not. There's A LOT there though so I will be checking it out.

Sound. As some of you know, and I know I've mentioned it before though I don't talk about it, I'm a sound designer and re-recording mixer in NYC. My home system is pretty low end though when all is said and done. I have the Onkyo and a 10 year old set of Cambridge Soundworks satellites though I do have a nice sub and will be upgrading the speakers to Polk satellites in a few months. I could spend a fortune and still not hear what I hear all day, so there isn't much point, plus it gives me a better idea of what most people will hear by having smaller speakers, stereo or surround. That being said, the 616 really impressed me. It definitely made my existing speakers sound much better than the 5 year old Onkyo it was replacing, which sounded exactly like the Sony it replaced. I did the Audyssey 2EQ calibration with the included mic. The first time I did it, it said I had large left/rights though and it set the surrounds a couple dBs too loud and center a dB low. I did it again and the fronts came out right but the surrounds and center came out the same. The sub came out beautifully balanced though in level and crossover. I went into the menu to play noise and adjust myself. For now I'm using the Audyssey Dynamic EQ in conjunction with Audyssey Dynamic Volume to please my family in order to keep levels more even. I don't like crazy sound modes so I'm using Dolby Digital for 5.1 and DTS Neo:6 for stereo sources. Be careful, the default for stereo sources sent the incoming signal to all speakers. It sounded like crap.

Lip Sync. The Onkyo has a technology called HDMI Lip Sync, that automatically sets correct sync by talking to your TV, if your TV supports it. It was turned on but didn't seem to work so I assume the ES doesn't support it. Manually setting the the sync though with the menu item called A/V Sync was very easy and nice though - especially when using the sync feature on the Disney WOW disc.

One last very nice surprise. I wanted an AVR with two HDMI outs because I knew my DirecTV DVR and Wii U had to have the HDMI Level set to Low, so I thought I'd run those out one output and the rest through the other. I didn't need to. The TV kept my Low setting for those devices but then turned it off, defaulting to Normal, when on the other devices. So instead, I'm going to use the second HDMI out only for the Wii U, so I can have better latency but turning some TV processing off on that input.

That's it I think. Those those that were considering the 616 for their ES, feel free to ask questions.

Edit:
Interesting, now in addition to seeing the 616 volume OSD, I have a second volume OSD popping up with the words Anynet+ in front of it. Nowhere in the 616 manual does it mention Anynet+, but Samsung does. The last thing I did last night was getting ARC to work, so obviously when I turned on HDMI Control (RIHD) and ARC in the 616, the 616 and ES started talking to each other in other ways, even when ARC isn't actually being used (in this case the audio is coming from the HDMI connection from DirecTV, not the ARC input from the SmartHub). I have to try to figure out how not to have double OSDs, not that it's a huge deal.

Edit 2:
It goes deeper than that. Because of Anynet+ (RIHD), every time I turn the TV on, the Harmony changes everything to the correct input automatically, but then a few seconds later, the TV sends a signal to change the input on the Onkyo to the ARC connection for sound. So I lose sound. This only happens when I turn the TV on. This is not a problem with Samsung or Onkyo, nor limited to them, but is an issue with the communication technology. In order for me to continue to have everything automated with the push one a button, I have to forgo ARC and use an optical cable. That sucks. I can program a 15 second delay in the Harmony to send a second input signal, but that sucks maybe more.
Edited by Garnoch - 12/8/12 at 12:39pm
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Will need to test more but I think it's a screen issue not shadow. Sat night will run it through the ringer.
I did notice when streaming thru my pc via wifi using the tv to media stream through Serviio. Movie seems to skip. Maybe it's the new tv not use to it. Will try to record that also.
Thanks all

set your judder to 0 in the settings. might get rid of the skipping issue

I do not see this option anywhere. Is this a new firmware setting?
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Under Picture Options, go to Auto Motion Plus and set to Custom. First though, I would try the Clear option.
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lol im on the edge of buying one myself

Me too though I'll wait and see the feedback here, if it's good I'm getting one.
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I bought this TV at Best Buy last week as an open box item. Remarkably, I was able to buy this TV for $2349.99 and got a $200.00 Best Buy Gift Card on top of it all!

I've been searching around and I'm having trouble finding what is generally considered the best Calibration Settings for this TV. I've updated all firmware to newest version. Can anyone help?
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Congrats! Which size? Is it true that although you joined in 2009, it took this TV to make your first post? It's that good, right? smile.gif

To answer your question is basically impossible. All panels will be a little different and on top of that we all may want to see things differently. I can point you towards the Disney WOW Blu-ray. If you'd like to try the AVS files that can be found here, CNETs Movie setting, my Movie settings, or one of my two Standard settings, links to all those can be found by clicking on my name. Otherwise there are several people that have also posted their settings through these 252 pages. Good luck!
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