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post #7771 of 16125
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Originally Posted by prsut View Post

I have calibrated my set (not es8000, but es6710) and best starting point is Warm2. Even with Warm1, blue luminance is too off from proper luminance graph (using HCFR + xrite). Best start point for gamma is 0. I have fully calibrated set using 10pt balance and so. Now I can see how far are my new settings from factory settings and what is most important, how nice picture I have. Skin tone is just fabulous.

Can I ask you if there is a quick method to specify on what gamma needs to be set ?
post #7772 of 16125
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Originally Posted by crabtrp View Post

thanks for the response. To be honest my initial thoughts have not been all that favorable. I have noticed when watching a soccer game, and I watch a lot of soccer, there is an issue. When the camera pans quickly down field I notice darker vertical areas on the screen. Most noticeable is a 4 inch (approx) area just to the left of the middle of the screen and a 2 inch area on the right side of the screen. It is like inconsistency in the back lighting of the panel. I haven't noticed it as much on other sports as the camera doesn't pan back and forth as much, I need to check out tennis I guess. It isn't really noticeable on normal TV viewing and movies. I find myself looking for it now. I checked out my 60" 2011 model and it doesn't happen on that one. I am not sure if it will work itself out or if there are settings to minimize it. I need to read more of this thread. If I have a solid color like white on screen I see them very faintly, as I say - it is mostly noticeable with soccer when there is quick panning across the green of the pitch.
I don't want to take it back, but I expected better from a $3,500 tv. Most of the time the picture is pretty damn awesome.

You're welcome. Read Eagle's post right below yours, because that's it. If it bothers you being you watch a lot of soccer, I'd exchange it even though you would prefer not to. It's hit and miss on which panels are effected with this and the problem is usually on a 65".
post #7773 of 16125
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Originally Posted by DravensPain View Post

Hi all, I'm a noob poster, but a longtime lurker! I've had my 46in set for a couple of months now, and in general, I'm really happy with the performance! However, there's one thing that's really bugging me - the 3d. When I first got the set, I used the "Auto" setting both for 3d movies and gaming. I never really noticed any issues with crosstalk whatsoever. However, after the 1041 firmware update, I feel as though the settings have completely freaked out. Now, when I try to play (for example) Crysis 2 on the 360, the convergence seems completely off when set to Auto. The only way I can get a semi-decent image is to change to manual settings and push the setting to +5, and while this largely works for gameplay (it reduces the double image substantially), it's problematic to have to adjust this setting from game to game.
I'd also be interested to know if anybody else is having strange issues like this (I'm also getting the smarthub flashing bug) after firmware updates?! I also have a vague recollection of many, MANY, pages back reading a post from a European owner who mentioned thery were ahead of the US in fw updates, and their most recent update improved 3d quality...Once again, many thanks for the input!

Hey there and welcome! I don't use 3D enough but I was using it over the weekend and had no problems. You may either want to wait for the next firmware update or do a full reset. If you do that though, write down all your settings first because it will reset them. It's not guaranteed to help but it definitely could.

The European guys have a different numbering system than the US, so you can't go by their numbers, but I can say they've had at least one update recently when the US did not.
post #7774 of 16125
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Originally Posted by rckrz6 View Post

Anyone having issues with tv volume levels?? some input sources i literly have to turn the volume all the way up for it to be loud (75+), while other sources "25" is pretty loud. I was using a sound bar before, but now im back to normal tv speakers
edit**** auto volume seems to help a bit

Auto could help and exists for the very reason you talk about. Unfortunately, not all channels broadcast at the same level. On top of that, not all stations have the same mixing level specs. Because of these things, you wind up bouncing the volume up and down depending on what channel you're on. Then sometimes even when you are on the same channel, different programs are at different levels because that station either doesn't have specific specs and sound mixers do it the way they think is best, or because someone screwed up. And that's all before we start talking about the level of commercials. smile.gif
post #7775 of 16125
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Originally Posted by crabtrp View Post

thanks for the response. To be honest my initial thoughts have not been all that favorable. I have noticed when watching a soccer game, and I watch a lot of soccer, there is an issue. When the camera pans quickly down field I notice darker vertical areas on the screen. Most noticeable is a 4 inch (approx) area just to the left of the middle of the screen and a 2 inch area on the right side of the screen. It is like inconsistency in the back lighting of the panel. I haven't noticed it as much on other sports as the camera doesn't pan back and forth as much, I need to check out tennis I guess. It isn't really noticeable on normal TV viewing and movies. I find myself looking for it now. I checked out my 60" 2011 model and it doesn't happen on that one. I am not sure if it will work itself out or if there are settings to minimize it. I need to read more of this thread. If I have a solid color like white on screen I see them very faintly, as I say - it is mostly noticeable with soccer when there is quick panning across the green of the pitch.
I don't want to take it back, but I expected better from a $3,500 tv. Most of the time the picture is pretty damn awesome.

Vertical banding has been more of an issue in the 65" sets. I had to send a set back because the vertical banding was horrific. And..video processing does make a difference. Example: previous setup was with a Yamaha RX-A2000, HQV Vida Processor, settings "Standard" with Dynamic Contrast on Low, Contrast 90, Brightness 40, Sharpness 40, Cool "Color." Still slight banding but very minimal.

New setup is with Pioneer SC-65 - Marvel QDEO video processing. Guess what....Dynamic Contrast now "off" - still Standard mode and Color is "Warm 1." Even less vertical banding. I watched some golf yesterday (Vegas) and to my amazement, I could hardly see any banding at all! 3D has no issues.

What makes it crazy is that some channels (source is important) exhibit no, none, zip, nada banding. CNN for example - - I have yet to have any vertical banding on any of their broadcasts. How crazy is that? I have NFL Ticket and virtually everything is pristine but I do notice an occasional banding with the remote cameras on the sidelines. The "still" cameras - - I believe in the stadium - anchored down, you know where most of the camera work is done - - show zero banding.

I'm wondering if banding is also affected by the signal - - your source material? These Sammy's are absolutely brutal on interior quality signals. Non HD TV is unwatchable for me. I mean it just looks horrific. I don't care how much processing you do the signal - - it's junk.

So my suggestion is to experiment with the settings and see if it helps. I know it's a 90% panel issue but you can mitigate it - some.

FYI - Darbee Darblet will be delivered today. We'll see if it provides the fabulous picture enhancements everyone has been talking about.
post #7776 of 16125
For the paranoid who are interested.....



Samsung Smart TV contain a vulnerability which allows remote attackers to swipe data from attached storage devices.

In this demonstration readers will see how it is possible to use a 0-day vulnerability to retrieve sensitive information, root access, and ultimately monitor and fully control the device remotely.

Auriemma said, “We have tested different Samsung televisions of the latest generations running the latest version of their firmware. Unfortunately we can't disclose additional information but we can only say that almost all the people having a Samsung TV at home or in their offices are affected by this vulnerability."

http://thehackernews.com/2012/12/samsung-smart-tv-vulnerability-allow.html
post #7777 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Vertical banding has been more of an issue in the 65" sets. I had to send a set back because the vertical banding was horrific. And..video processing does make a difference. Example: previous setup was with a Yamaha RX-A2000, HQV Vida Processor, settings "Standard" with Dynamic Contrast on Low, Contrast 90, Brightness 40, Sharpness 40, Cool "Color." Still slight banding but very minimal.
New setup is with Pioneer SC-65 - Marvel QDEO video processing. Guess what....Dynamic Contrast now "off" - still Standard mode and Color is "Warm 1." Even less vertical banding. I watched some golf yesterday (Vegas) and to my amazement, I could hardly see any banding at all! 3D has no issues.
What makes it crazy is that some channels (source is important) exhibit no, none, zip, nada banding. CNN for example - - I have yet to have any vertical banding on any of their broadcasts. How crazy is that? I have NFL Ticket and virtually everything is pristine but I do notice an occasional banding with the remote cameras on the sidelines. The "still" cameras - - I believe in the stadium - anchored down, you know where most of the camera work is done - - show zero banding.
I'm wondering if banding is also affected by the signal - - your source material? These Sammy's are absolutely brutal on interior quality signals. Non HD TV is unwatchable for me. I mean it just looks horrific. I don't care how much processing you do the signal - - it's junk.
So my suggestion is to experiment with the settings and see if it helps. I know it's a 90% panel issue but you can mitigate it - some.
FYI - Darbee Darblet will be delivered today. We'll see if it provides the fabulous picture enhancements everyone has been talking about.

I'm stoked to hear your results on the Darbee
post #7778 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

For the paranoid who are interested.....
Samsung Smart TV contain a vulnerability which allows remote attackers to swipe data from attached storage devices.
In this demonstration readers will see how it is possible to use a 0-day vulnerability to retrieve sensitive information, root access, and ultimately monitor and fully control the device remotely.
Auriemma said, “We have tested different Samsung televisions of the latest generations running the latest version of their firmware. Unfortunately we can't disclose additional information but we can only say that almost all the people having a Samsung TV at home or in their offices are affected by this vulnerability."
http://thehackernews.com/2012/12/samsung-smart-tv-vulnerability-allow.html

Garnoch - - if you do not have anything attached to your Sammy set (storage) can they still get access to your home network?

This makes you want to "unhook" any ethernet connection and do firmware upgrades via USB. Can you clarify?
post #7779 of 16125
I know nothing other than what's in the article unfortunately - other than the fact that you were wearing plaid night pants with a matching robe last night. Please close the robe once in a while though.
post #7780 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Stefanhvt View Post

Can I ask you if there is a quick method to specify on what gamma needs to be set ?

I used xrite eye-one 2 LT meter and HCFR software.
1. Reset picture settings to default. Set Gamma to +1.
2. set contrast (My target value is 30ftL).
3. Next step is to set brightness. There are various methods to set proper brightness, mine is now at 43.
4. Run grayscale measurement. In my case, average gamma is too low (mainly in range 0 - 40 % of white, gamma is about 1,17 ).
5. Set gamma at 0, run steps 1 and 2.
6. Using gamma setting at 0 I get average gamma 2,17 and almost linear (target gamma I set 2,22 in HCFR).

Note, this is valid for movie mode and Warm2 tone. All other settings like dyn. contrast and black level are off. Properly calibrated set has so deep black, you do not need to set them.
Complete calibration takes me whole day. It is one circle of measurements, corrections, reading tutorials from masters.

What can I say, 115Euro for meter, HCFR is free. It can raise your set to whole new level - no bad price for this. And study of calibration (here at avsforum are fantastic tutorials and threads) was pure joy for me.
Next step I will perform is to calibrate standard mode - for sure will be one hell of compromises as I want to eliminate CE dimming and have proper grayscale and color gamut....
Edited by prsut - 12/11/12 at 7:44am
post #7781 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

For the paranoid who are interested.....
Samsung Smart TV contain a vulnerability which allows remote attackers to swipe data from attached storage devices.
In this demonstration readers will see how it is possible to use a 0-day vulnerability to retrieve sensitive information, root access, and ultimately monitor and fully control the device remotely.
Auriemma said, “We have tested different Samsung televisions of the latest generations running the latest version of their firmware. Unfortunately we can't disclose additional information but we can only say that almost all the people having a Samsung TV at home or in their offices are affected by this vulnerability."
http://thehackernews.com/2012/12/samsung-smart-tv-vulnerability-allow.html

I'm far from a network nerd, but it appears the "hacker" would already have access to your local home network - which at that point you would have bigger issues than just him getting access to your TV. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...
post #7782 of 16125
First ....Garnoch, Thanks for taking the time to make up your guide. fantastic and thanks for canadian55 for the suggestion.

Second:
I have some questions need clarification, appreciate all inputs:
1-Where to find out what type of panel I have?
2- I have the 4 corner flashing on screen when there is no feed from cable on dark screen. does that mean I should call Samsung for replacement?
3- I do have the Vertical lines (banding) on my screen on blue or light screens, very noticeable. is this also ground for exchange?
4- Garnoch, I have used your standard settings, my favorite, but yet I find the dark not as dark, also it has some cloudiness. I like more of back light , more sharpness and I like to see more details on the images so far not sure to achieve that.

many thanks for everyone on this great forum ..
post #7783 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Samsung UN65ES View Post

First ....Garnoch, Thanks for taking the time to make up your guide. fantastic and thanks for canadian55 for the suggestion.
Second:
I have some questions need clarification, appreciate all inputs:
1-Where to find out what type of panel I have?
2- I have the 4 corner flashing on screen when there is no feed from cable on dark screen. does that mean I should call Samsung for replacement?
3- I do have the Vertical lines (banding) on my screen on blue or light screens, very noticeable. is this also ground for exchange?
4- Garnoch, I have used your standard settings, my favorite, but yet I find the dark not as dark, also it has some cloudiness. I like more of back light , more sharpness and I like to see more details on the images so far not sure to achieve that.
many thanks for everyone on this great forum ..


Please refer to this link about banding/clouding etc. http://asia.cnet.com/is-tv-brightness-uniformity-a-problem-62213336.htm It is inherent to the LCD/LED technology and is worse on the larger size panels such as the 65" model. There is really not much you can do like the article states for vertical banding/clouding/uneven brightness. You could play the "Panel Lotto" and hope to get a slightly better panel, but again these things you are noticing is inherent to the technology itself.

As far as the darks not being as dark as you would like, you are seeing the panel's "Native Contrast" which is not that good. You could help this by turning dark tone on or even bumping dynamic contrast up. But keep in mind with those settings on, you will be cutting some dark shadow detail out but the darks will look more dark for you. I do not recommend using either Dynamic Contrast or Dark tone as it loses the finer shadow detail you will no longer see.

Hope this helps


-Rudolph
Edited by Bolt989 - 12/11/12 at 8:08am
post #7784 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Samsung UN65ES View Post

First ....Garnoch, Thanks for taking the time to make up your guide. fantastic and thanks for canadian55 for the suggestion.
Second:
I have some questions need clarification, appreciate all inputs:
1-Where to find out what type of panel I have?
2- I have the 4 corner flashing on screen when there is no feed from cable on dark screen. does that mean I should call Samsung for replacement?
3- I do have the Vertical lines (banding) on my screen on blue or light screens, very noticeable. is this also ground for exchange?
4- Garnoch, I have used your standard settings, my favorite, but yet I find the dark not as dark, also it has some cloudiness. I like more of back light , more sharpness and I like to see more details on the images so far not sure to achieve that.
many thanks for everyone on this great forum ..

Do you have a 65"? Based on your name, I assume so. Although Bolt bought a plasma and never owned an ES, definitely read the link that he posted (if you haven't already because it's in the guide) because a lot of this is just inherent in the technology and you just need to understand that. Each technology has its plusses and minuses. The questions is which works best for you and your environment because no tech right now will be perfect.
1) If you mean the panel number, like HS01, check the sticker on the back of the TV.
2) Flashlighting will not be cause for a replacement or any kind of support from what I gather. Perhaps with a few week, some massaging, and certain settings, this can be diminished.
3) I personally would not settle for Banding. I would exchange it. This is called the panel lottery. Hard to know what you'll get especially with the 65" panels.
4) My settings may not be right for your panel, even if we had the exact same panel number/size/etc. Being you like it, just use it as a starting point for color and white balance, then being you don't have scopes and meters, follow the calibration tips in that guide to adjust everything for your panel and eyes. The higher the backlight in a dark room though, the more flashlighting and clouding will be apparent.
Good luck!
Edited by Garnoch - 12/11/12 at 8:45am
post #7785 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I know nothing other than what's in the article unfortunately - other than the fact that you were wearing plaid night pants with a matching robe last night. Please close the robe once in a while though.

How dare you insinuate that I had a plaid outfit on last night. Everyone knows that I only wear plaid on weekends when I cross dress. smile.gif
post #7786 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Hey there and welcome! I don't use 3D enough but I was using it over the weekend and had no problems. You may either want to wait for the next firmware update or do a full reset. If you do that though, write down all your settings first because it will reset them. It's not guaranteed to help but it definitely could.
The European guys have a different numbering system than the US, so you can't go by their numbers, but I can say they've had at least one update recently when the US did not.

Thanks for both the welcome, and the feedback Garnoch, I appreciate both! I was thinking of waiting for the next firmware update, but I am interested in the idea of the full reset you mentioned. I did dig around in the menus for some kind of rollback for the firmware, and I did find an option (that was passcode locked) for a factory reset. Is this the option you're referring to, or more simply, were you suggesting just resetting the specific input through the picture menu?
post #7787 of 16125
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Originally Posted by EAnglum View Post

I'm far from a network nerd, but it appears the "hacker" would already have access to your local home network - which at that point you would have bigger issues than just him getting access to your TV. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...

Ha, you have a good point. Lets say though that your firewall is on your computer and not the router. In that case, they got to your TV but perhaps not your computer. If your firewall is on your router, then perhaps your TV is safe too. I guess it comes down to if they can get onto your network, the TV isn't safe. I'm not actually concerned and now that it's out, I assume Samsung will plug the hole. Now I know why my TV keeps automatically switching to adult channels though.
post #7788 of 16125
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Originally Posted by DravensPain View Post

Thanks for both the welcome, and the feedback Garnoch, I appreciate both! I was thinking of waiting for the next firmware update, but I am interested in the idea of the full reset you mentioned. I did dig around in the menus for some kind of rollback for the firmware, and I did find an option (that was passcode locked) for a factory reset. Is this the option you're referring to, or more simply, were you suggesting just resetting the specific input through the picture menu?

Ah you brought up a great thing to add to the guide. Thanks. Here you go.....
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/supportOwnersHowToGuidePopup.do?howto_guide_seq=6790&prd_ia_cd=N0000058&map_seq=44746
post #7789 of 16125
Hey guys I've been a proud owner of a 55es8000 since black Friday. I've read through a lot of this thread and was well aware of the panel lotto but I still jumped. After getting it all set up and some initial calibration (thanks garnoch) the picture is gorgeous, a day and night upgrade over my previous ln-t4061f. But I do tend to notice slight clouding and definite glowing in each corner on static dark scenes like credits in movies and especially 3D (probably the increase in backlight) I'm the only one in the house to notice these things and I doubt any replacement would be an improvement.. there isn't likely a flawless panel out in the wild. My version #001041 and not quite sure about the panel.

One other thing, smart hub pops up in a blink of an eye sometimes while I'm watching TV or movie or something. The remote is on the table and voice/motion disabled. Its as if its only a single frame but I clearly see the smart hub and grassy hill background in the blink of an eye. Anybody else get that issue?
post #7790 of 16125
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Originally Posted by anycolouryoulike View Post

Hey guys I've been a proud owner of a 55es8000 since black Friday. I've read through a lot of this thread and was well aware of the panel lotto but I still jumped. After getting it all set up and some initial calibration (thanks garnoch) the picture is gorgeous, a day and night upgrade over my previous ln-t4061f. But I do tend to notice slight clouding and definite glowing in each corner on static dark scenes like credits in movies and especially 3D (probably the increase in backlight) I'm the only one in the house to notice these things and I doubt any replacement would be an improvement.. there isn't likely a flawless panel out in the wild. My version #001041 and not quite sure about the panel.
One other thing, smart hub pops up in a blink of an eye sometimes while I'm watching TV or movie or something. The remote is on the table and voice/motion disabled. Its as if its only a single frame but I clearly see the smart hub and grassy hill background in the blink of an eye. Anybody else get that issue?

I think a lot of people, including myself, have seen the "Smart Hub" pop up in the top right corner lately. I usually see it when I first turn on the TV, although it hasn't happened in a while. It's probably a bug. I noticed it when I did a complete "reset" after the latest firmware update (0,0,0.0 - code)

Regarding the clouding and glowing - - this could get better with time and as your TV settles down. Also - - like Garnoch says, check your settings. A too high of a "Backlight" or "Brightness" setting can affect this.

I can always tell if my "Backlight" or "Brightness" are too high by looking at my Directv menu - - which is all black.

Experiment and enjoy your set!
Edited by Ricoflashback - 12/11/12 at 9:18am
post #7791 of 16125
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Originally Posted by anycolouryoulike View Post

Hey guys I've been a proud owner of a 55es8000 since black Friday. I've read through a lot of this thread and was well aware of the panel lotto but I still jumped. After getting it all set up and some initial calibration (thanks garnoch) the picture is gorgeous, a day and night upgrade over my previous ln-t4061f. But I do tend to notice slight clouding and definite glowing in each corner on static dark scenes like credits in movies and especially 3D (probably the increase in backlight) I'm the only one in the house to notice these things and I doubt any replacement would be an improvement.. there isn't likely a flawless panel out in the wild. My version #001041 and not quite sure about the panel.
One other thing, smart hub pops up in a blink of an eye sometimes while I'm watching TV or movie or something. The remote is on the table and voice/motion disabled. Its as if its only a single frame but I clearly see the smart hub and grassy hill background in the blink of an eye. Anybody else get that issue?

And read my post a few post above, under Bolt's, with numbers 1-4 because you basically have the same questions. Also, a lot of us, but not all, noticed the flashlighting and clouding to diminish some after three weeks or so. Good luck and enjoy!
post #7792 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Vertical banding has been more of an issue in the 65" sets. I had to send a set back because the vertical banding was horrific. And..video processing does make a difference. Example: previous setup was with a Yamaha RX-A2000, HQV Vida Processor, settings "Standard" with Dynamic Contrast on Low, Contrast 90, Brightness 40, Sharpness 40, Cool "Color." Still slight banding but very minimal.
New setup is with Pioneer SC-65 - Marvel QDEO video processing. Guess what....Dynamic Contrast now "off" - still Standard mode and Color is "Warm 1." Even less vertical banding. I watched some golf yesterday (Vegas) and to my amazement, I could hardly see any banding at all! 3D has no issues.
What makes it crazy is that some channels (source is important) exhibit no, none, zip, nada banding. CNN for example - - I have yet to have any vertical banding on any of their broadcasts. How crazy is that? I have NFL Ticket and virtually everything is pristine but I do notice an occasional banding with the remote cameras on the sidelines. The "still" cameras - - I believe in the stadium - anchored down, you know where most of the camera work is done - - show zero banding.
I'm wondering if banding is also affected by the signal - - your source material? These Sammy's are absolutely brutal on interior quality signals. Non HD TV is unwatchable for me. I mean it just looks horrific. I don't care how much processing you do the signal - - it's junk.
So my suggestion is to experiment with the settings and see if it helps. I know it's a 90% panel issue but you can mitigate it - some.
FYI - Darbee Darblet will be delivered today. We'll see if it provides the fabulous picture enhancements everyone has been talking about.

About your cnn channel banding issues. I wanted to share a story about a 'dead pixel' that my wife and I discovered after getting this tv last week. We were watching HGTV Property Brothers when we started to notice a yellow pixel just left of center that was stuck. When they were panning across swimming pool scenes it became ridiculously obvious. Needless to say, the blood pressure started to rise and I was envisioning the awful of experience of disconnecting everything and needing to return it.

Then out of nowhere my wife has this crazy thought: "what if the HGTV camera has the stuck pixel?" And I'm thinking no possible way.... But then we started to notice that some camera angles didn't have the pixel although the background was blue.

Thinking about it more I decided to try the PIP feature and see if the pixel showed up in the box...sure enough it did! which of course was a different part of the screen so that meant our TV was in the clear.

So maybe when you have the banding on the channel (cnn) try throwing it into PIP mode, if its the source you'll probably still notice it in the PIP box.
post #7793 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Derek Gosselin View Post

I'm stoked to hear your results on the Darbee
Dar-BEE Dar-BEE! I'm also very interested in how it looks on the ES8000. RicoFB you should really mess with it for a day or so before posting. Did you read the review on it including the reviewer guys' settings? As I recall he had to turn down the volume to like 42%, the default is 100%. I forget which of the several modes he used.
post #7794 of 16125
"I’ve found that Hi Def 45% is a sweet spot that works for everything."
http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/darbeevision-darblet/
post #7795 of 16125
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Originally Posted by anycolouryoulike View Post

One other thing, smart hub pops up in a blink of an eye sometimes while I'm watching TV or movie or something. The remote is on the table and voice/motion disabled. Its as if its only a single frame but I clearly see the smart hub and grassy hill background in the blink of an eye. Anybody else get that issue?

lol..... Happened to me last night as well!! I'm hope the next firmware will take of it. smile.gif
post #7796 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I know nothing other than what's in the article unfortunately - other than the fact that you were wearing plaid night pants with a matching robe last night. Please close the robe once in a while though.

If I could do a full factory reset on the picture that just popped into my head, I would. Thanks Garnoch.
post #7797 of 16125
HAHAHA!
post #7798 of 16125
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

About your cnn channel banding issues. I wanted to share a story about a 'dead pixel' that my wife and I discovered after getting this tv last week. We were watching HGTV Property Brothers when we started to notice a yellow pixel just left of center that was stuck. When they were panning across swimming pool scenes it became ridiculously obvious. Needless to say, the blood pressure started to rise and I was envisioning the awful of experience of disconnecting everything and needing to return it.
Then out of nowhere my wife has this crazy thought: "what if the HGTV camera has the stuck pixel?" And I'm thinking no possible way.... But then we started to notice that some camera angles didn't have the pixel although the background was blue.
Thinking about it more I decided to try the PIP feature and see if the pixel showed up in the box...sure enough it did! which of course was a different part of the screen so that meant our TV was in the clear.
So maybe when you have the banding on the channel (cnn) try throwing it into PIP mode, if its the source you'll probably still notice it in the PIP box.

Thanks for the response. No banding on CNN, though.

What you said about the pixel is a funny story - - and right on. Because of the picture clarity of these sets, sometimes an artifact will show up and 99.9% of the time it's the camera or location. I had this happen with a local broadcast with some fine "specks" on the picture. At first, I said to myself, oh no, what's wrong with the picture! Then I changed channels and it went away!

These TV's promote OCD !!!
post #7799 of 16125
I used Garnoch's Standard mode settings yesterday. To me it looks excellent color-wise, but I turned the contrast down to about 70. I find it interesting that Garnoch uses Contrast between 90-100, and Skibum 5000 uses zero. WUWT? Is that philosophical or related to input source? At least editing photos using a lot of contrast messes them up.
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Dar-BEE Dar-BEE! I'm also very interested in how it looks on the ES8000. RicoFB you should really mess with it for a day or so before posting. Did you read the review on it including the reviewer guys' settings? As I recall he had to turn down the volume to like 42%, the default is 100%. I forget which of the several modes he used.

Just looked out the front door - - Darbee not here yet, but UPS tracking says it's out for shipment!

Yes - I have have seen many write ups on the Darbee and the recommended 45% setting (HD). I also noticed that there could be HDMI "handshake" problems with "Deep Color" setting on Bluray players. I changed that to "off" - - from what I read, it adds nothing to the picture but a bunch of extra bits and bytes. Apparently, it's just a marketing ploy, so I was fooled again.

I also changed the YCbCr to 4:2:2 setting - - again from the AVS Darbee forum.

FYI - - no way to change Directv settings. All hard coded. I confirmed with Directv Technical Support. I did change "Native" on my HR22-100 receiver to "off" - - much faster switching of channels and no discernible quality difference.

T-minus seven hours or less to Darbee Demo! Full post to follow with camera shots of the "Man Cave," aka "Ricodome" without any plaid clothing!!! Reset and total memory clear needed for that....smile.gif
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