Official Samsung UNxxES8000 Owner's Thread - Page 260

Originally Posted by prsut 

I have calibrated my set (not es8000, but es6710) and best starting point is Warm2. Even with Warm1, blue luminance is too off from proper luminance graph (using HCFR + xrite). Best start point for gamma is 0. I have fully calibrated set using 10pt balance and so. Now I can see how far are my new settings from factory settings and what is most important, how nice picture I have. Skin tone is just fabulous.

Originally Posted by crabtrp 

thanks for the response. To be honest my initial thoughts have not been all that favorable. I have noticed when watching a soccer game, and I watch a lot of soccer, there is an issue. When the camera pans quickly down field I notice darker vertical areas on the screen. Most noticeable is a 4 inch (approx) area just to the left of the middle of the screen and a 2 inch area on the right side of the screen. It is like inconsistency in the back lighting of the panel. I haven't noticed it as much on other sports as the camera doesn't pan back and forth as much, I need to check out tennis I guess. It isn't really noticeable on normal TV viewing and movies. I find myself looking for it now. I checked out my 60" 2011 model and it doesn't happen on that one. I am not sure if it will work itself out or if there are settings to minimize it. I need to read more of this thread. If I have a solid color like white on screen I see them very faintly, as I say - it is mostly noticeable with soccer when there is quick panning across the green of the pitch.
I don't want to take it back, but I expected better from a $3,500 tv. Most of the time the picture is pretty damn awesome.

Originally Posted by DravensPain 

Hi all, I'm a noob poster, but a longtime lurker! I've had my 46in set for a couple of months now, and in general, I'm really happy with the performance! However, there's one thing that's really bugging me - the 3d. When I first got the set, I used the "Auto" setting both for 3d movies and gaming. I never really noticed any issues with crosstalk whatsoever. However, after the 1041 firmware update, I feel as though the settings have completely freaked out. Now, when I try to play (for example) Crysis 2 on the 360, the convergence seems completely off when set to Auto. The only way I can get a semi-decent image is to change to manual settings and push the setting to +5, and while this largely works for gameplay (it reduces the double image substantially), it's problematic to have to adjust this setting from game to game.
I'd also be interested to know if anybody else is having strange issues like this (I'm also getting the smarthub flashing bug) after firmware updates?! I also have a vague recollection of many, MANY, pages back reading a post from a European owner who mentioned thery were ahead of the US in fw updates, and their most recent update improved 3d quality...Once again, many thanks for the input!

Originally Posted by rckrz6 

Anyone having issues with tv volume levels?? some input sources i literly have to turn the volume all the way up for it to be loud (75+), while other sources "25" is pretty loud. I was using a sound bar before, but now im back to normal tv speakers
edit**** auto volume seems to help a bit

Originally Posted by crabtrp 

thanks for the response. To be honest my initial thoughts have not been all that favorable. I have noticed when watching a soccer game, and I watch a lot of soccer, there is an issue. When the camera pans quickly down field I notice darker vertical areas on the screen. Most noticeable is a 4 inch (approx) area just to the left of the middle of the screen and a 2 inch area on the right side of the screen. It is like inconsistency in the back lighting of the panel. I haven't noticed it as much on other sports as the camera doesn't pan back and forth as much, I need to check out tennis I guess. It isn't really noticeable on normal TV viewing and movies. I find myself looking for it now. I checked out my 60" 2011 model and it doesn't happen on that one. I am not sure if it will work itself out or if there are settings to minimize it. I need to read more of this thread. If I have a solid color like white on screen I see them very faintly, as I say - it is mostly noticeable with soccer when there is quick panning across the green of the pitch.
I don't want to take it back, but I expected better from a $3,500 tv. Most of the time the picture is pretty damn awesome.

Originally Posted by Ricoflashback 

Vertical banding has been more of an issue in the 65" sets. I had to send a set back because the vertical banding was horrific. And..video processing does make a difference. Example: previous setup was with a Yamaha RX-A2000, HQV Vida Processor, settings "Standard" with Dynamic Contrast on Low, Contrast 90, Brightness 40, Sharpness 40, Cool "Color." Still slight banding but very minimal.
New setup is with Pioneer SC-65 - Marvel QDEO video processing. Guess what....Dynamic Contrast now "off" - still Standard mode and Color is "Warm 1." Even less vertical banding. I watched some golf yesterday (Vegas) and to my amazement, I could hardly see any banding at all! 3D has no issues.
What makes it crazy is that some channels (source is important) exhibit no, none, zip, nada banding. CNN for example - - I have yet to have any vertical banding on any of their broadcasts. How crazy is that? I have NFL Ticket and virtually everything is pristine but I do notice an occasional banding with the remote cameras on the sidelines. The "still" cameras - - I believe in the stadium - anchored down, you know where most of the camera work is done - - show zero banding.
I'm wondering if banding is also affected by the signal - - your source material? These Sammy's are absolutely brutal on interior quality signals. Non HD TV is unwatchable for me. I mean it just looks horrific. I don't care how much processing you do the signal - - it's junk.
So my suggestion is to experiment with the settings and see if it helps. I know it's a 90% panel issue but you can mitigate it - some.
FYI - Darbee Darblet will be delivered today. We'll see if it provides the fabulous picture enhancements everyone has been talking about.

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

For the paranoid who are interested.....
Samsung Smart TV contain a vulnerability which allows remote attackers to swipe data from attached storage devices.
In this demonstration readers will see how it is possible to use a 0-day vulnerability to retrieve sensitive information, root access, and ultimately monitor and fully control the device remotely.
Auriemma said, “We have tested different Samsung televisions of the latest generations running the latest version of their firmware. Unfortunately we can't disclose additional information but we can only say that almost all the people having a Samsung TV at home or in their offices are affected by this vulnerability."
http://thehackernews.com/2012/12/samsung-smart-tv-vulnerability-allow.html

Originally Posted by Stefanhvt 

Can I ask you if there is a quick method to specify on what gamma needs to be set ?

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

For the paranoid who are interested.....
Samsung Smart TV contain a vulnerability which allows remote attackers to swipe data from attached storage devices.
In this demonstration readers will see how it is possible to use a 0-day vulnerability to retrieve sensitive information, root access, and ultimately monitor and fully control the device remotely.
Auriemma said, “We have tested different Samsung televisions of the latest generations running the latest version of their firmware. Unfortunately we can't disclose additional information but we can only say that almost all the people having a Samsung TV at home or in their offices are affected by this vulnerability."
http://thehackernews.com/2012/12/samsung-smart-tv-vulnerability-allow.html

Originally Posted by Samsung UN65ES 

First ....Garnoch, Thanks for taking the time to make up your guide. fantastic and thanks for canadian55 for the suggestion.
Second:
I have some questions need clarification, appreciate all inputs:
1-Where to find out what type of panel I have?
2- I have the 4 corner flashing on screen when there is no feed from cable on dark screen. does that mean I should call Samsung for replacement?
3- I do have the Vertical lines (banding) on my screen on blue or light screens, very noticeable. is this also ground for exchange?
4- Garnoch, I have used your standard settings, my favorite, but yet I find the dark not as dark, also it has some cloudiness. I like more of back light , more sharpness and I like to see more details on the images so far not sure to achieve that.
many thanks for everyone on this great forum ..

Originally Posted by Samsung UN65ES 

First ....Garnoch, Thanks for taking the time to make up your guide. fantastic and thanks for canadian55 for the suggestion.
Second:
I have some questions need clarification, appreciate all inputs:
1-Where to find out what type of panel I have?
2- I have the 4 corner flashing on screen when there is no feed from cable on dark screen. does that mean I should call Samsung for replacement?
3- I do have the Vertical lines (banding) on my screen on blue or light screens, very noticeable. is this also ground for exchange?
4- Garnoch, I have used your standard settings, my favorite, but yet I find the dark not as dark, also it has some cloudiness. I like more of back light , more sharpness and I like to see more details on the images so far not sure to achieve that.
many thanks for everyone on this great forum ..

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

I know nothing other than what's in the article unfortunately - other than the fact that you were wearing plaid night pants with a matching robe last night. Please close the robe once in a while though.

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

Hey there and welcome! I don't use 3D enough but I was using it over the weekend and had no problems. You may either want to wait for the next firmware update or do a full reset. If you do that though, write down all your settings first because it will reset them. It's not guaranteed to help but it definitely could.
The European guys have a different numbering system than the US, so you can't go by their numbers, but I can say they've had at least one update recently when the US did not.

Originally Posted by EAnglum 

I'm far from a network nerd, but it appears the "hacker" would already have access to your local home network - which at that point you would have bigger issues than just him getting access to your TV. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...

Originally Posted by DravensPain 

Thanks for both the welcome, and the feedback Garnoch, I appreciate both! I was thinking of waiting for the next firmware update, but I am interested in the idea of the full reset you mentioned. I did dig around in the menus for some kind of rollback for the firmware, and I did find an option (that was passcode locked) for a factory reset. Is this the option you're referring to, or more simply, were you suggesting just resetting the specific input through the picture menu?

Originally Posted by anycolouryoulike 

Hey guys I've been a proud owner of a 55es8000 since black Friday. I've read through a lot of this thread and was well aware of the panel lotto but I still jumped. After getting it all set up and some initial calibration (thanks garnoch) the picture is gorgeous, a day and night upgrade over my previous ln-t4061f. But I do tend to notice slight clouding and definite glowing in each corner on static dark scenes like credits in movies and especially 3D (probably the increase in backlight) I'm the only one in the house to notice these things and I doubt any replacement would be an improvement.. there isn't likely a flawless panel out in the wild. My version #001041 and not quite sure about the panel.
One other thing, smart hub pops up in a blink of an eye sometimes while I'm watching TV or movie or something. The remote is on the table and voice/motion disabled. Its as if its only a single frame but I clearly see the smart hub and grassy hill background in the blink of an eye. Anybody else get that issue?

Originally Posted by anycolouryoulike 

Hey guys I've been a proud owner of a 55es8000 since black Friday. I've read through a lot of this thread and was well aware of the panel lotto but I still jumped. After getting it all set up and some initial calibration (thanks garnoch) the picture is gorgeous, a day and night upgrade over my previous ln-t4061f. But I do tend to notice slight clouding and definite glowing in each corner on static dark scenes like credits in movies and especially 3D (probably the increase in backlight) I'm the only one in the house to notice these things and I doubt any replacement would be an improvement.. there isn't likely a flawless panel out in the wild. My version #001041 and not quite sure about the panel.
One other thing, smart hub pops up in a blink of an eye sometimes while I'm watching TV or movie or something. The remote is on the table and voice/motion disabled. Its as if its only a single frame but I clearly see the smart hub and grassy hill background in the blink of an eye. Anybody else get that issue?

Originally Posted by Ricoflashback 

Vertical banding has been more of an issue in the 65" sets. I had to send a set back because the vertical banding was horrific. And..video processing does make a difference. Example: previous setup was with a Yamaha RX-A2000, HQV Vida Processor, settings "Standard" with Dynamic Contrast on Low, Contrast 90, Brightness 40, Sharpness 40, Cool "Color." Still slight banding but very minimal.
New setup is with Pioneer SC-65 - Marvel QDEO video processing. Guess what....Dynamic Contrast now "off" - still Standard mode and Color is "Warm 1." Even less vertical banding. I watched some golf yesterday (Vegas) and to my amazement, I could hardly see any banding at all! 3D has no issues.
What makes it crazy is that some channels (source is important) exhibit no, none, zip, nada banding. CNN for example - - I have yet to have any vertical banding on any of their broadcasts. How crazy is that? I have NFL Ticket and virtually everything is pristine but I do notice an occasional banding with the remote cameras on the sidelines. The "still" cameras - - I believe in the stadium - anchored down, you know where most of the camera work is done - - show zero banding.
I'm wondering if banding is also affected by the signal - - your source material? These Sammy's are absolutely brutal on interior quality signals. Non HD TV is unwatchable for me. I mean it just looks horrific. I don't care how much processing you do the signal - - it's junk.
So my suggestion is to experiment with the settings and see if it helps. I know it's a 90% panel issue but you can mitigate it - some.
FYI - Darbee Darblet will be delivered today. We'll see if it provides the fabulous picture enhancements everyone has been talking about.

Originally Posted by Derek Gosselin 

I'm stoked to hear your results on the Darbee

Originally Posted by anycolouryoulike 

One other thing, smart hub pops up in a blink of an eye sometimes while I'm watching TV or movie or something. The remote is on the table and voice/motion disabled. Its as if its only a single frame but I clearly see the smart hub and grassy hill background in the blink of an eye. Anybody else get that issue?

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

I know nothing other than what's in the article unfortunately - other than the fact that you were wearing plaid night pants with a matching robe last night. Please close the robe once in a while though.

Originally Posted by mo949 

About your cnn channel banding issues. I wanted to share a story about a 'dead pixel' that my wife and I discovered after getting this tv last week. We were watching HGTV Property Brothers when we started to notice a yellow pixel just left of center that was stuck. When they were panning across swimming pool scenes it became ridiculously obvious. Needless to say, the blood pressure started to rise and I was envisioning the awful of experience of disconnecting everything and needing to return it.
Then out of nowhere my wife has this crazy thought: "what if the HGTV camera has the stuck pixel?" And I'm thinking no possible way.... But then we started to notice that some camera angles didn't have the pixel although the background was blue.
Thinking about it more I decided to try the PIP feature and see if the pixel showed up in the box...sure enough it did! which of course was a different part of the screen so that meant our TV was in the clear.
So maybe when you have the banding on the channel (cnn) try throwing it into PIP mode, if its the source you'll probably still notice it in the PIP box.

Originally Posted by thebignewt 

Dar-BEE Dar-BEE! I'm also very interested in how it looks on the ES8000. RicoFB you should really mess with it for a day or so before posting. Did you read the review on it including the reviewer guys' settings? As I recall he had to turn down the volume to like 42%, the default is 100%. I forget which of the several modes he used.