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post #7831 of 16126
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I think you know a lot more than you say you do. And quite frankly, a lot of it is over my head, as well, but the goal here is to get the most out of your TV - - picture and enjoyment wise.

I remember reading a book a long time ago (high school) that basically said that if someone can't communicate in a language that a fifth grader can understand, them somebody is jiving you.
post #7832 of 16126
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Of course it's pretty bad that the best way to get a feature to work is by turning it off and not using it. If people want to have some motion interpolation enabled, they always seem to run into this stuttering issue. Samsung is not even looking into this. It has been an issue for years. It may work in a test lab on test signals, but have they actually tried using it on broadcast tv or cable or satellite? If it can't actually work correctly when using it the way people normally would, it's not much good as a feature.

I used "clear and on" for the first 4 months and had blur and stuttering. Using "off and off" stopped the blurring instantly. I've checked and it still occurs with clear and on. I do still get stutter occasionally but I put that down to Sky HD being rubbish, whatever film mode I use doesn't make any difference. I also don't get soap opera effect unless I use smooth.
post #7833 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

HA phew! HS01 60"
99 Contrast on Movie and 94 on Standard.
And because you mentioned it, I'm thinking of looking at
those with 3D on. I don't do a ton of 3D but I would guess it's a little high from what I see.

Thanks.

Ah that is what I thought, HS means Sharp panel. The 60" sets really are entirely different sets than the 46" and 55". They run the same software but the panel hardware is utterly different. The 60" sets appear to all use Sharp panels which behave very, very differently. Everything from black levels, to viewing angles, to sub-pixel structure, you name it on the 60" sets has nothing at all to do with the 46-55" set performance. I'm not sure what the 65" sets use.

I've never seen the 60" Samsung ES (or sharps) have the sort of horizontal striping that I am talking about so it's no surprise that your set is free of that issue.

I wonder how many, if any of the 46-55" are entirely free of the stupid horizontal odd vs even banding Samsung introduced with some of their C-series panels. (same boat for Sony since they use the same panels)
Edited by skibum5000 - 12/11/12 at 1:50pm
post #7834 of 16126
I was wondering what everyone sees if they use Menu->Support->Self Diagnosis->Picture Test?

If you look at the orange soccer ball at the bottom right and then blue bucket to the left of that do you notice that every other 'scanline' going across the soccer ball is brighter orange than the one above and below it and that for the bucket it is every other line is a brighter shade of blue? If you don't notice that from normal distance, what about if you go close to the screen? Trying to figure out the odd vs even scanlines putting out somewhat different shades even when all are fed the same color issue that some sets have. Thanks.

Yes/No:
TV size:
Panel Type (SQ01,HS01,US02, etc.):

My results:
Yes, pretty clearly so. The object seem to have horizontal stripes running across them, every other scanline is clearly a brighter shade.
55" (ES7100)
US02

Someone else's so far:
No, not at all.
60" (ES8000)
HS01 (Sharp panel that appears to be used in all 60" sets)
post #7835 of 16126
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Originally Posted by MMakoto View Post

so i've had my 65" for about a month, and lately i've been noticing the above "faint vertical dark band" in some movies; the hunger games in blu ray and wrath of titans 3D in mkv via pc, both connected via hdmi directly to tv. these dark faint bands are all over the screen, but on certain angles i can't see all of it. i was cleaning the screen one night with a flashlight pointing at the screen at an angle, and i see these similar looking faint bands behind the screen as well, but not sure if it has anything to do with it. i hope this makes sense to some of you, cuz it's rather hard to explain. anyway, is there a way to make those dark faint bands go away? TIA.


Please refer to this link: http://asia.cnet.com/is-tv-brightness-uniformity-a-problem-62213336.htm What you are seeing is called Vertical Banding, it has to do with brightness uniformity and is something inherent to the LED/LCD technology. There is not much you can do about it other than playing the "Panel Lotto" and have it replaced under warranty. Some sets may be better than others but they all have it to some degree. It's the worse on the 65" Models.

Hope this helps
Edited by Bolt989 - 12/11/12 at 12:04pm
post #7836 of 16126
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Originally Posted by MMakoto View Post

so i've had my 65" for about a month, and lately i've been noticing the above "faint vertical dark band" in some movies; the hunger games in blu ray and wrath of titans 3D in mkv via pc, both connected via hdmi directly to tv. these dark faint bands are all over the screen, but on certain angles i can't see all of it. i was cleaning the screen one night with a flashlight pointing at the screen at an angle, and i see these similar looking faint bands behind the screen as well, but not sure if it has anything to do with it. i hope this makes sense to some of you, cuz it's rather hard to explain. anyway, is there a way to make those dark faint bands go away? TIA.

Check the Guide in my signature for Banding and let us know. Is it too late to exchange it? Good luck.
post #7837 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Please refer to this link: http://asia.cnet.com/is-tv-brightness-uniformity-a-problem-62213336.htm What you are seeing is called Vertical Banding and is something inherent to the LED/LCD technology. There is not much you can do about it other than playing the "Panel Lotto" and have it replaced under warranty. Some sets may be better than others but they all have it to some degree. It's the worse on the 65" Models.
Hope this helps

Mine has none at all. I didn't realize your ES had any Bolt. smile.gif
post #7838 of 16126
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

When we tried to buy a Samsung LED set last year, we noticed it and backed off. This year my ES7500 does it also. Some channels are totally unwatchable with the skipped frames. Clear setting on Auto Motion Plus seems to be, for whatever reason, the only AMP setting that works. All others are stuttery. Even custom stutters and drops frames. It seems to me this feature was not tested very well to handle real signals broadcast by different providers. Maybe it worked for them on paper or in a lab but based on tons of comments, it seems in practice AMP doesn't work well outside of the clear setting.

FYI - I think it varies with your provider. I used to have Comcast but I had major problems with their DVR's - - we have two DVR's in the house - one upstairs for mama and one for me in the man cave. I could never get their "On Demand" to work right - - it stuttered, spit and messed all over itself. That and the fact that Comcast blew off two home appointments when I had to take off work to meet with them sealed their fate. I really believe that Comcast has bandwidth issues.

Ever since switching to Directv (and installing a dish heater that makes trips up on the roof no longer necessary) - - I have not had any problems with downloading content, PQ, or skipping of frames. Sure, occasionally there can be some "hiccups," - but that could be due to the movie, the satellite position or weather conditions. But it's infrequent and the PQ is stunning. Plus I get NFL Prime Ticket and three or four 3D channels.

And I noticed that the sound quality (Dolby 5.1) was much clearer and cleaner with my satellite reception.

I have AMP set at "Clear" with Motion off. Does a Bluray disc stutter? Any frame rate drops there? If not, then there is a good chance that it's the signal from your cable provider but they'll never own up to it. IMHO.
post #7839 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Please refer to this link: http://asia.cnet.com/is-tv-brightness-uniformity-a-problem-62213336.htm What you are seeing is called Vertical Banding, it has to do with brightness uniformity and is something inherent to the LED/LCD technology. There is not much you can do about it other than playing the "Panel Lotto" and have it replaced under warranty. Some sets may be better than others but they all have it to some degree. It's the worse on the 65" Models.
Hope this helps

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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Check the Guide in my signature for Banding and let us know. Is it too late to exchange it? Good luck.

thank you both for the input, and unfortunately it is too late to get a replacement. would this vertical banding become worse over time though? now i'm wondering if it's necessary to purchase an extended insurance from squaretrade?!
post #7840 of 16126
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Originally Posted by MMakoto View Post

thank you both for the input, and unfortunately it is too late to get a replacement. would this vertical banding become worse over time though? now i'm wondering if it's necessary to purchase an extended insurance from squaretrade?!

I would get one - and did. But from what I know so far, banding will neither get better nor worse.
post #7841 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I would get one - and did. But from what I know so far, banding will neither get better nor worse.
ok, i just got a 3yr warranty from squaretrade, but it only covers up until 11/6/2015 though, does that sound right? i thought this 3yr plan is after the manufacturer's 1yr, no?
post #7842 of 16126
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Originally Posted by MMakoto View Post

ok, i just got a 3yr warranty from squaretrade, but it only covers up until 11/6/2015 though, does that sound right? i thought this 3yr plan is after the manufacturer's 1yr, no?

Hmmm, I don't know. A lot of us here did it through Costco's website even though we didn't buy it from them. It was $99 plus like a $5 charge for not being a member for what seems to have worked out as 5 years total. 2 years through Samsung/Costco, then 3 years through Square Trade. Sorry I thought that's what you were originally talking about. You are right that yours sounds like 2 years. Maybe call them to confirm and even cancel it if you paid more?
post #7843 of 16126
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Originally Posted by MMakoto View Post

ok, i just got a 3yr warranty from squaretrade, but it only covers up until 11/6/2015 though, does that sound right? i thought this 3yr plan is after the manufacturer's 1yr, no?

That does not sound right. It should be either 2016 or 2017, depending on whether or not you get the extended manufacturer's warranty. Some of us got it when we signed up, and others didn't. I would call ST directly and find out - they were very helpful when I first purchased my warranty.

Good luck!
post #7844 of 16126
I was wondering what everyone sees if they use Menu->Support->Self Diagnosis->Picture Test?

I don't know about anyone else but I see a picture of Garnoch in his plaid PJ's.smile.gif
post #7845 of 16126
I think you must have been watching Operation Desert Stormy instead, RFB. HA, I read the first part of your post as if you were being serious, then out of no where came the last line. Very nice indeed haha. Well played. Now quit screwing around and get to hooking up the DoubleD! smile.gif
post #7846 of 16126
Not sure if anyone can help me. I was at a firends help and they asked me a question about movies on an external drive...

A friend has and hooked up an external hard drive with movies on it. which are saved as .mp4

Now the tv sees them and plays them fine, but the issue is that the file shows up twice. One plays, the other says file type not supported. It is just annoying because its very cluttered and not clean.

Anyone shed light on this?

Thanks,
Ser
post #7847 of 16126
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Originally Posted by ser_renely View Post

Not sure if anyone can help me. I was at a firends help and they asked me a question about movies on an external drive...
A friend has and hooked up an external hard drive with movies on it. which are saved as .mp4
Now the tv sees them and plays them fine, but the issue is that the file shows up twice. One plays, the other says file type not supported. It is just annoying because its very cluttered and not clean.
Anyone shed light on this?
Thanks,
Ser

If at all possible, I would look at a "Media Server" with an attached drive as part of the "Media Server Configuration." It's a much more elegant solution. I have the Micca EP350 and have been very happy with it. I'm sure other folks will have suggestions. Just hanging a drive and trying to access via the Samsung sounds like a lot of problems.

I do not use any of the Samsung apps. - I stream from my Bluray player. I'm just leery of the Samsung interface and inherent difficulties. And trying to get them resolved from Samsung support is not a cheery prospect.

As long as the PQ is good, that's what's most important to me.
post #7848 of 16126
I'm in the same boat as RicoFB in not really using the Samsung apps much, but instead of the Micca, I use an Apple TV pointed to 8TB drives and use it for streaming also. Hopefully someone can answer your question directly or offer additional solutions like a WDTV or something.
post #7849 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

I was wondering what everyone sees if they use Menu->Support->Self Diagnosis->Picture Test?
I don't know about anyone else but I see a picture of Garnoch in his plaid PJ's.smile.gif

Well, I mean besides the obvious.
biggrin.gif


(secretly I had been hoping he was actually a VS model, but alas.... from expectations of Christmas Miracle to The Nightmare Before Christmas just like that)
Edited by skibum5000 - 12/11/12 at 3:40pm
post #7850 of 16126
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Originally Posted by ser_renely View Post

Not sure if anyone can help me. I was at a firends help and they asked me a question about movies on an external drive...
A friend has and hooked up an external hard drive with movies on it. which are saved as .mp4
Now the tv sees them and plays them fine, but the issue is that the file shows up twice. One plays, the other says file type not supported. It is just annoying because its very cluttered and not clean.
Anyone shed light on this?
Thanks,
Ser

Sorry, no clue. Honestly I never use any of that stuff. I just plug my PC in (or to a much lesser extent, gamebox) and then I can run everything perfectly, better, and exactly as I want to.
post #7851 of 16126
Not feeling the love. smile.gif
You're all driving me to drink, I tell ya
post #7852 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Hmmm, I don't know. A lot of us here did it through Costco's website even though we didn't buy it from them. It was $99 plus like a $5 charge for not being a member for what seems to have worked out as 5 years total. 2 years through Samsung/Costco, then 3 years through Square Trade. Sorry I thought that's what you were originally talking about. You are right that yours sounds like 2 years. Maybe call them to confirm and even cancel it if you paid more?

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Originally Posted by 7011jrs View Post

That does not sound right. It should be either 2016 or 2017, depending on whether or not you get the extended manufacturer's warranty. Some of us got it when we signed up, and others didn't. I would call ST directly and find out - they were very helpful when I first purchased my warranty.
Good luck!

thanks guys, i just cancelled it with squaretrade and will be getting it from costco, since i am a member anyway.
post #7853 of 16126
OH, nice! You can do it right from Costco's website if you want.
post #7854 of 16126
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Originally Posted by skibum5000 View Post

I was wondering what everyone sees if they use Menu->Support->Self Diagnosis->Picture Test?
If you look at the orange soccer ball at the bottom right and then blue bucket to the left of that do you notice that every other 'scanline' going across the soccer ball is brighter orange than the one above and below it and that for the bucket it is every other line is a brighter shade of blue? If you don't notice that from normal distance, what about if you go close to the screen? Trying to figure out the odd vs even scanlines putting out somewhat different shades even when all are fed the same color issue that some sets have. Thanks.

Yes/No:
TV size:
Panel Type (SQ01,HS01,US02, etc.):
My results:
Yes, pretty clearly so. The object seem to have horizontal stripes running across them, every other scanline is clearly a brighter shade.
55" (ES7100)
US02
Someone else's so far:
No, not at all.
60" (ES8000)
HS01 (Sharp panel that appears to be used in all 60" sets)


Yes/No: No
TV size: 55ES8000
Panel Type (SQ01,HS01,US02, etc.): TS01
post #7855 of 16126
I use to get a message on the TV stating that my 3d glasses have been connected. I no longer did get this message when connecting the glasses, did they remove this in the latest firmware??
post #7856 of 16126
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Originally Posted by rckrz6 View Post

I use to get a message on the TV stating that my 3d glasses have been connected. I no longer did get this message when connecting the glasses, did they remove this in the latest firmware??
i still see that message ever since last night.
post #7857 of 16126
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Originally Posted by rckrz6 View Post

I use to get a message on the TV stating that my 3d glasses have been connected. I no longer did get this message when connecting the glasses, did they remove this in the latest firmware??

My message still happens too. Dumb question but are you sure they're working? Maybe the battery is dying?
post #7858 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

My message still happens too. Dumb question but are you sure they're working? Maybe the battery is dying?

I figured it out, if i press and hold the power button for a few seconds the message comes up, if i just quickly hit the power button the glasses still turn on but the message does not apear. weird
post #7859 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Mavinwow View Post

Yes/No: No
TV size: 55ES8000
Panel Type (SQ01,HS01,US02, etc.): TS01

thanks
post #7860 of 16126
Anyone got the smart hub maintenance message today?, if you put "don't show this message again", do you still receive future notifications?
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