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post #7861 of 16125
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Originally Posted by rckrz6 View Post

I figured it out, if i press and hold the power button for a few seconds the message comes up, if i just quickly hit the power button the glasses still turn on but the message does not apear. weird
Hey that's a nice hint. I thought you HAD to hold it down.
post #7862 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Hey that's a nice hint. I thought you HAD to hold it down.

Actually, if you hold down the button on the glasses, that puts them in pairing mode and you'll see the message that they've paired with the TV on the screen. There's no reason to do this after you've done it the first time. Once it's paired you can simply hit the button once to turn them on and once to turn them off. When doing this you don't see the message because you're just turning them on and off, not pairing them with the TV again.
post #7863 of 16125
REPORT: Darbee Darblet a Real Downer

1. Remote D.O.A. - never worked.

2. Zero improvement on picture quality.

Sorry to say, this didn't work for me. I have the Samsung UN65ES8000 LCD/LED. I also have a Pioneer SC-65 with Marvell QDEO video processing and that may have something to do with the lack of results. It might work for you if you have no video processing or have a projector.

But this was a real clunker for me. Sending it back via Amazon tomorrow. I've already printed the return label and will drop off to UPS in the morning. Very sad that it didn't work out but that's how things go sometimes.

You might want to try it if (1) you have a video projector or (2) have no video processing with your AVR or do not have an AVR at all! And above all - - make sure you have an adequate return policy like Amazon Prime.
post #7864 of 16125
I would think you could play with it some more, are you seeing no difference at all?

Also, I dont see that Amazon sells the item, although it does warehouse the item for a third party vendor. Sure you can easily return it?
post #7865 of 16125
Guys,

Can anyone post a Service Menu how to for the ES8000.. How to enter it, move around, change, save, and exit. Including a detailed list of what is in there and what effect it has if changed. This would be great to have. smile.gif
post #7866 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Mavinwow View Post

I would think you could play with it some more, are you seeing no difference at all?
Also, I dont see that Amazon sells the item, although it does warehouse the item for a third party vendor. Sure you can easily return it?

Zero difference. Again, probably due to my Marvell QDEO processing of my Pioneer SC-65 receiver.

The remote did not work at all. Period. Maybe it was a dead battery and I didn't have a spare CR2025 on me. But I was able step through the Darbee Darblet menu and really - - no difference whatsoever on my set.

But that's o.k.! I at least tried it out.

And...Amazon Prime accepted the return - - no questions asked.

I think I was looking for some extra definition on my PQ and was able to do that by fine tuning my SC-65. And the settings - - they are different than my previous AVR - the Yamaha RX-A2000. Now, everything is crystal clear again - - even better than the Yamaha. Very fine detail with less vertical banding (didn't have much to begin with.)

Settings changed are really quite surprising - - Contrast from 90 to 80. Brightness from 45 to 35. Sharpness from 45 to 40. Dynamic contrast is now turned off - - it was on before. And Color is Warm 1. These are all Standard settings.

So don't be turned off by my experience. I think if you do not have any video processing on your AVR (if you have one) - it's worth a shot. Otherwise, use the $319.00 towards a better receiver - - especially with Dolby IIz and DTS Neo:X.

I can't tell you how happy I am with the sound processing. It really is a big difference going from 5.1 speakers to 9.1 (Front Height or Front Wide) with Dolby IIz or DTS Neo:X. Very, very cool. (All from a 5.1 Dolby Digital signal - mostly from Directv. Watching the Green Lantern - - great depth and color!)
post #7867 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

I was wondering what everyone sees if they use Menu->Support->Self Diagnosis->Picture Test?
I don't know about anyone else but I see a picture of Garnoch in his plaid PJ's.smile.gif

Nice one. tongue.gif
post #7868 of 16125
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Originally Posted by skibum5000 View Post

I was wondering what everyone sees if they use Menu->Support->Self Diagnosis->Picture Test?
If you look at the orange soccer ball at the bottom right and then blue bucket to the left of that do you notice that every other 'scanline' going across the soccer ball is brighter orange than the one above and below it and that for the bucket it is every other line is a brighter shade of blue? If you don't notice that from normal distance, what about if you go close to the screen? Trying to figure out the odd vs even scanlines putting out somewhat different shades even when all are fed the same color issue that some sets have. Thanks.

Yes/No:
TV size:
Panel Type (SQ01,HS01,US02, etc.):
My results:
Yes, pretty clearly so. The object seem to have horizontal stripes running across them, every other scanline is clearly a brighter shade.
55" (ES7100)
US02
Someone else's so far:
No, not at all.
60" (ES8000)
HS01 (Sharp panel that appears to be used in all 60" sets)

Yes/No: no
Size: 60es8000
Panel: HS01
post #7869 of 16125
My UN65ES8000 has gone on the fritz. It kept freezing on the picture, first just jittery, then freeze up.. Then it wouldn't accept commands from the Remote or from the TV Controller (on the set). After unplugging everything, then just plugging it in, the set keeps cycling on and off with the Samsung logo, but will not truely come on correctly. I have place a service request, so now I'll have to wait for a response. Any suggestions in the meantime??

Latest, I just tried leaving it unplugged for over 1/2 hour, then when plugging it in, all kinds of crazy video junk is flashing across the screen. Please keep in mind that I've disconnected all video sources.
Edited by sterlingma1 - 12/11/12 at 11:26pm
post #7870 of 16125
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Originally Posted by skibum5000 View Post

Thanks.
Ah that is what I thought, HS means Sharp panel. The 60" sets really are entirely different sets than the 46" and 55". They run the same software but the panel hardware is utterly different. The 60" sets appear to all use Sharp panels which behave very, very differently. Everything from black levels, to viewing angles, to sub-pixel structure, you name it on the 60" sets has nothing at all to do with the 46-55" set performance. I'm not sure what the 65" sets use.
I've never seen the 60" Samsung ES (or sharps) have the sort of horizontal striping that I am talking about so it's no surprise that your set is free of that issue.
I wonder how many, if any of the 46-55" are entirely free of the stupid horizontal odd vs even banding Samsung introduced with some of their C-series panels. (same boat for Sony since they use the same panels)

I tried your settings on my 60ES7500 model just now. It looks pretty darn good. I'll have to do more viewing to fully evaluate.
post #7871 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

REPORT: Darbee Darblet a Real Downer
1. Remote D.O.A. - never worked.
2. Zero improvement on picture quality.
Sorry to say, this didn't work for me. I have the Samsung UN65ES8000 LCD/LED. I also have a Pioneer SC-65 with Marvell QDEO video processing and that may have something to do with the lack of results. It might work for you if you have no video processing or have a projector.
But this was a real clunker for me. Sending it back via Amazon tomorrow. I've already printed the return label and will drop off to UPS in the morning. Very sad that it didn't work out but that's how things go sometimes.
You might want to try it if (1) you have a video projector or (2) have no video processing with your AVR or do not have an AVR at all! And above all - - make sure you have an adequate return policy like Amazon Prime.

Rico, man what were you thinking? You have a Pioneer Elite Receiver with state of the art video processing. No need for a little cheap device like the Darbee man! The video processing in your Elite will trounce that Darbee. Now send that thing back and apologize to your Pioneer Elite right away! biggrin.gif
post #7872 of 16125
Apologize! HA, that was great, Bolt! Love it!

RFB, thanks for checking it out. You saved me money and time. smile.gif
Did you say and mean that you have you Brightness at 35 and Sharpness at 40 though?
post #7873 of 16125
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Originally Posted by sterlingma1 View Post

My UN65ES8000 has gone on the fritz. It kept freezing on the picture, first just jittery, then freeze up.. Then it wouldn't accept commands from the Remote or from the TV Controller (on the set). After unplugging everything, then just plugging it in, the set keeps cycling on and off with the Samsung logo, but will not truely come on correctly. I have place a service request, so now I'll have to wait for a response. Any suggestions in the meantime??
Latest, I just tried leaving it unplugged for over 1/2 hour, then when plugging it in, all kinds of crazy video junk is flashing across the screen. Please keep in mind that I've disconnected all video sources.

OH DAMN! Thanks for letting us know and keep us up to date please. I have no suggestions though other than your power may fluctuate enough ti either temporarily mess it up or ruin it. This is rare but possible I'd say. I'd suggest either way to get a power conditioner.
post #7874 of 16125
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Originally Posted by metalsaber View Post

I tried your settings on my 60ES7500 model just now. It looks pretty darn good. I'll have to do more viewing to fully evaluate.

I have the 60ES7500 too with the HS01 panel. I haven't tried his settings, but on paper they look like they'd be pretty good. You reminded me that over the weekend, I wanted to plug them in to compare on my panel out of curiosity so thanks. smile.gif

Skibum, if I didn't thank you for posting that stuff, I wanted to say thanks.

Also if more people didn't see Skibum's test a page back, go check it out and post your results please, it's an easy test.
post #7875 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Rico, man what were you thinking? You have a Pioneer Elite Receiver with state of the art video processing. No need for a little cheap device like the Darbee man! The video processing in your Elite will trounce that Darbee. Now send that thing back and apologize to your Pioneer Elite right away! biggrin.gif

Bolt989 - right your are! I just started my Pioneer nine day Novena. AVR Superior please forgive me for my sins.

Geez, from everything I read, the Darbee Darblet was suppose to be the next best thing compared to sliced bread. And I think it probably does a great job for (1) Projectors (2) DLP's and (3) Plasmas with no video processing. And the Darbee Doctor said that LCD/LED's should see the enhancements - - but I couldn't see any. The build quality is pretty bad - - cheap plastic device with horizontal HDMI in/out - - you have to lay it on the floor. I'm glad for folks seeing improvement on their sets with the device - - as I've always said before - - it's about your picture, your positive viewing experience.

I'm finding subtle differences between the Yamaha RX-A2000 video processing (HQV Vida) and the Pioneer SC65 Marvel QDEO processing. First of all - - less vertical banding with the SC65 (not that I have that much to begin with). I had to alter the contrast from 90 to 80 (which yielded a sharper picture, detail wise) as well bump down the Sharpness (some folks have this down really low - - I think it varies with the set). And I tweaked the "Contrast" and "Detail" on the SC65.

Flat out - - the SC65 audio is "lights out." Incredible audio detail, imaging, crisp dialogue, clear with superb music tones and transition between speakers (Dolby IIz & DTS Neo:X). OSD interface is pretty bad, though - - looks like a little kid developed the menu!

Anybody experience different PQ with some Bllurays like the "Dark Knight Rises?" I need to bump up my Brightness to 45 for that DVD, but Directv satellite is at 40 Brightness. It would be great to keep everything uniform for convenience sake but I think the source material warrants some tweaking sometimes.

At any rate - - thanks for your post and my lesson has been learned. No magic bullet for me.....
post #7876 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Apologize! HA, that was great, Bolt! Love it!
RFB, thanks for checking it out. You saved me money and time. smile.gif
Did you say and mean that you have you Brightness at 35 and Sharpness at 40 though?

Sharpness is set at 40 - - but this varies with a lot of folks settings. And sometimes I can't even tell when I bump it down to 20 - - I just keep it at 40 for now.

Brightness is at 40 but with some dark Blurays, I bump it to 45. Seems like the micro dimming kicks in even more with lower brightness settings.

Big change was Contrast from 90 to 80 - - which yielded more detail and sharpness in the PQ! Go figure. I'm sure it has to do with the change in video processing from the Yamaha to the Pioneer.

Standard setting but Dynamic Contrast, which used to be set a "Low" for blacks, is now turned off! Again, better PQ.

I've finally got the picture where I want it - - I like a sharp picture with the "Wow" factor, lots of detail (teeny hairs on Wolf Blitzer's face), solid blacks but not with a loss of detail in the background. It's a compromise, sometimes, and the source material can necessitate further "tweaking."

But hey - - it's fun!!!
post #7877 of 16125
Well RIco I'm sorry to hear that the Darbee didn't impress you. It's hard to believe that you noticed NO difference at all, but whatever. I used the Garnoch settings for Night Before Christmas 3D and man, that is impressive. Question: I clicked on the 3D option in Menu. It kept showing the TV channel but differently and offered choices based on what pattern you are seeing. Is that a form of "fake 3D"? Because the words in the corner looked 3D like. It was confusing so I turned it off. Also, my TV channel froze for some reason last night. I watched the 3D movie and returned to TV and it was OK. Weird.
post #7878 of 16125
Anyone here played Black Ops on Xbox 360 in 3D ?? I must say its pretty cool. Still could use some improvements but not bad at all.
post #7879 of 16125
Does anyone have Cal Settings for 3D ??
post #7880 of 16125
I use my normal settings with the Backlight bumped up to compensate for the glasses, like they do in theaters with a brighter bulb, but Skibum posted his specific to his 3D one or two pages back.
post #7881 of 16125
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Well RIco I'm sorry to hear that the Darbee didn't impress you. It's hard to believe that you noticed NO difference at all, but whatever. I used the Garnoch settings for Night Before Christmas 3D and man, that is impressive. Question: I clicked on the 3D option in Menu. It kept showing the TV channel but differently and offered choices based on what pattern you are seeing. Is that a form of "fake 3D"? Because the words in the corner looked 3D like. It was confusing so I turned it off. Also, my TV channel froze for some reason last night. I watched the 3D movie and returned to TV and it was OK. Weird.

If it's what I think you're talking about, correct, fake 3D. Fun to play with once or twice. smile.gif
post #7882 of 16125
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

Guys,
Can anyone post a Service Menu how to for the ES8000.. How to enter it, move around, change, save, and exit. Including a detailed list of what is in there and what effect it has if changed. This would be great to have. smile.gif

Some people have really messed up their TVs going in there and it voids your warranty so I never bothered to figure it out.
post #7883 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

If it's what I think you're talking about, correct, fake 3D. Fun to play with once or twice. smile.gif

Oh and I don't have Nightmare in 3D but we watched it a couple weeks ago in 1080p and it looked amazing!
post #7884 of 16125
Despicable Me in 3D was one of the better 3D movies for me. It was fun 3D, good pop out scenes too. The roller coaster ride is awesome in 3D!
post #7885 of 16125
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Originally Posted by JDenham View Post

Anyone here played Black Ops on Xbox 360 in 3D ?? I must say its pretty cool. Still could use some improvements but not bad at all.
I played Sonic Generations in 3d but the framerate was so poor it really wasnt that enjoyable. Looking forward to hooking up my PC to this TV so that I can get some proper gaming in.

Do any games have stuff "pop out" of the screen or are they mostly all just the diorama effect?
post #7886 of 16125
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Originally Posted by sterlingma1 View Post

My UN65ES8000 has gone on the fritz. It kept freezing on the picture, first just jittery, then freeze up.. Then it wouldn't accept commands from the Remote or from the TV Controller (on the set). After unplugging everything, then just plugging it in, the set keeps cycling on and off with the Samsung logo, but will not truely come on correctly. I have place a service request, so now I'll have to wait for a response. Any suggestions in the meantime??
Latest, I just tried leaving it unplugged for over 1/2 hour, then when plugging it in, all kinds of crazy video junk is flashing across the screen. Please keep in mind that I've disconnected all video sources.

I had a similar restarting issue a few weeks back. I didnt have the freezing issues but it would randomly power cycle. I put in a service request on the web with Samsung, got a call 15 minutes later from the local service agent to schedule a repair. The guy came over and just replaced the 2 main boards inside the tv and knock on wood its been working fine since. Hopefully your repair goes as soothly.
post #7887 of 16125
The only time I notice the " pop out effect " was when raised up the gun. Notice kinda old school frames during online playing tho
post #7888 of 16125
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Originally Posted by JDenham View Post

Anyone here played Black Ops on Xbox 360 in 3D ?? I must say its pretty cool. Still could use some improvements but not bad at all.

I've played the original Black Ops in 3d - it is really quite good (though in general people seem to really criticize it's performance). I personally love shooters in 3d, but if I can, I have to turn of the aiming reticle and go pure iron sights, as they never seem to be able to get an appropriate depth for it and it messes with my head! ;-) I also really enjoyed Arkham City and Gears 3.
post #7889 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

More tests tonight.
-The darkening I thought I saw in Movie mode was my imagination or a crappy video.
-I might see a slight difference with Black Enhancer on black screens, but I'm not even sure now. Seems useless.
-In Movie mode, without Micro Dimming, I am still finding Black Tone to be your friend, but keep it on the lowest setting of Dark. The middle setting of Darker is nice with certain content, but with other content, you can really loose detail. If deeper blacks trumps detail, then go for it.
-Last but not least is something about clouding. Clouding and flashlighting have definitely diminished since I got the set 3 weeks ago, and even then I didn't think it was too bad, but without Micro Dimming in Movie mode, clouding can be more apparent and can take you out of the moment during moments of pure black. I decided to give massaging a try and it was my friend. I really didn't expect it to help but 99% of my remaining clouding is gone even in Movie mode. And being CE Dimming doesn't kick in for Movie mode, setting the ECO backlight lower still gives you a brighter picture than in Standard mode, so mine being set to 4 is working very well. I've been back and forth with modes a few times now so we'll see how this works out, but it's looking like Movie mode can be a keeper this time. Now all I need is my freaking Micro Dimming. smile.gif

nearly to the current post. But this one definitely made me feel better as I'm only one week in and hoping to see/realize all this!
post #7890 of 16125
Samsung VG-KBD1500 keyboard - Is this the best option for surfing on the web browser? I also see another model: RMC-QTD1. Not sure which is better.

Are there any 3rd party options that are not too big? Thanks.
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