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post #7951 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I haven't noticed the issue you talk about so I thought I'd bump this for you. Plus I have a question though about the sound. Are you running the sound directly to the TV and the TV is what isn't detecting DD? I'm a little confused on what you mean.

Yes dolby digital right to the TV through hdmi, when i setup the audio in ps3 and choose "auto" setup DD is not listed just PCM. I can force dolby digital by selecting it manually and i confirm the TV supports it because it then shows up in SPDIF OUTPUT, which i can there passthrough optical to a soundbar, ect. Xbox i have to force it by turning off display discovery. Every sony tv i owned before this ps3/xbox would detect DD support on its own and it would show the trademark symbol on the tv in the info box when DD audio was being played
Edited by rckrz6 - 12/13/12 at 9:44am
post #7952 of 16125
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Originally Posted by JDenham View Post

Notice last nite on 3D mode my backlite was turned all the way up too 20. Is that right ??


20 is default setting for 3d
post #7953 of 16125
Like brighter bulbs in the theater for 3D, its brighter to compensate for the glasses. Set it to what's comfortable for you in your environment though.


RicoFB - glad those are working for your panel. You'll almost definitely need some additional tweaks on Contrast and such and up to you if you feel the want to play around with turning the extras on or off.
post #7954 of 16125
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Originally Posted by rckrz6 View Post

Yes dolby digital right to the TV through hdmi, when i setup the audio in ps3 and choose "auto" setup DD is not listed just PCM. I can force dolby digital by selecting it manually and i confirm the TV supports it because it then shows up in SPDIF OUTPUT, which i can there passthrough optical to a soundbar, ect. Xbox i have to force it by turning off display discovery. Every sony tv i owned before this ps3/xbox would detect DD support on its own and it would show the trademark symbol on the tv in the info box when DD audio was being played

Hmmm this one is beyond me because I don't use a soundbar and don't run the audio to the TV. I do know that in most cases the TV won't pass 5.1 back out that comes from HDMI but I don't think that's what you're talking about.
post #7955 of 16125
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Originally Posted by rckrz6 View Post

20 is default setting for 3d

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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Like brighter bulbs in the theater for 3D, its brighter to compensate for the glasses. Set it to what's comfortable for you in your environment though.
RicoFB - glad those are working for your panel. You'll almost definitely need some additional tweaks on Contrast and such and up to you if you feel the want to play around with turning the extras on or off.

Gotcha smile.gif I also switched the setting I'm the 3D menu from MANUAL to AUTO. supposly that setting has something to do with the 3d depth ?? Figured Auto was the best ?
post #7956 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Hmmm this one is beyond me because I don't use a soundbar and don't run the audio to the TV. I do know that in most cases the TV won't pass 5.1 back out that comes from HDMI but I don't think that's what you're talking about.



Heres a video on youtube that shows smearing, It doesn't do it to that affect but its there on un55es7500

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8R-Np925hc
Edited by rckrz6 - 12/13/12 at 10:29am
post #7957 of 16125
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Originally Posted by rckrz6 View Post

Heres a video on youtube that shows smearing, It doesn't do it to that affect but its there on un55es7500
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8R-Np925hc

Thanks. I've never noticed it. Hopefully I won't look for it. smile.gif
post #7958 of 16125
Heres the audio settings in PS3




As You can see the TV reports to PS3 that it DOES NOT support Dolby digital input through hdmi (Dolby Digital shows on all my sony tvs)




Selected manual instead of auto


Now i have dolby digital support

Same goes for the Xbox


TV reporting it does not support Dolby digital even when selected in the xbox menu

Forcing the audio selection, bypassing what audio/video settings the tv says it supports




must be magic
Edited by rckrz6 - 12/13/12 at 11:19am
post #7959 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Hopefully no more flashing smarthub. Had my first flash last night.
It was a really quick flash, but I swear it was RicoFB doing the flashing. Had nightmares last night.

hey hey, funny thing is when I ask my wife what she thinks of the tv since she gets to watch it while Im at work, this is the only thing she's complained about =]

I've seen it too now --- when will I ever learn not to update something out of the box till I feel that there's already an issue first?!
post #7960 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Bolt989 - thanks for the comment about "shadow detail" on my pics submitted. It got me to thinking (a dangerous prospect) even though I believe a lot of the loss of detail is with the camera itself.
And even though you do not own a Sammy set (kind of like the Pope telling people about birth control - if you no play the game, you no maka the rules...) I still appreciate your Plasma promo comments & suggestions. smile.gif
As I mentioned before in this thread - - I moved from a Yamaha RX-A2000 with HQV Vida video processing to a Pioneer Elite SC65 with Marvell QDEO video processing.
Guess what - I just tried Garnoch's "Movie" settings and they look great! This is the first time that I've been able to get the "Movie" setting to have enough clarity and sharpness on the PQ to rival or exceed the Standard mode. And Bolt989 - you'll be glad to know that there is more "Shadow Detail" present. I'm sure I'll tweak some more.
It just goes to show you - - all assumptions are out the window and you need to start over when getting new equipment - - especially AVR's with video processors. And then again, the firmware updates could have something to do with it as well.


You are correct, I do not own one, but I have spent quality time with one, running it through multiple test's and looking closely at its performance against other high end sets. I also have a lot of experience with a lot of older Samsung LED sets as I have calibrated many of them. Just because I do not own one doesn't mean I do not know it. That's like saying a reviewer's review of a TV is not credible because he/she does not own one for themselves. I know this set better than most owner's posting here smile.gif When I feel I can chime in and give my opinion or input I do. Some may not like what I have to say, but that's the good thing about a opinion, you can agree or disagree. This post is to just point out I know this TV really well as I have had a lot of time to play with it.
Edited by Bolt989 - 12/13/12 at 11:13am
post #7961 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

You are correct, I do not own one, but I have spent quality time with one, running it through multiple test's and looking closely at its performance against other high end sets. I also have a lot of experience with a lot of older Samsung LED sets as I have calibrated many of them. quote]

How do you calibrate sets? I saw a person post settings using a spectrophotometer. As I recall that analyzes light, maybe colors. I just wondered how one goes about calibration. I've never had it done, I'm just finding out about it.
post #7962 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

You are correct, I do not own one, but I have spent quality time with one, running it through multiple test's and looking closely at its performance against other high end sets. I also have a lot of experience with a lot of older Samsung LED sets as I have calibrated many of them. quote]
How do you calibrate sets? I saw a person post settings using a spectrophotometer. As I recall that analyzes light, maybe colors. I just wondered how one goes about calibration. I've never had it done, I'm just finding out about it.

I use Spectracal, google it and you can find out more. It involves a colorimeter, pattern generator and Calman software.
post #7963 of 16125
a couple of random thoughts:


most of us are men (if not all) and I'd say eyeballing color may provide the best experience for us. Afterall, a coloromiter sees the true colors accuractely wink.gif

if you watch netflix through your hub, I read that some of the tv processing gets disabled automatically - but if you stream it from a source like your bluray player, that won't happen.

there's a lot more watching going on the living room than usual these days =]
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

hey hey, funny thing is when I ask my wife what she thinks of the tv since she gets to watch it while Im at work, this is the only thing she's complained about =]
I've seen it too now --- when will I ever learn not to update something out of the box till I feel that there's already an issue first?!

I power cycled my tv a few times after i received todays hub update, flashing seems to be gone smile.gif
post #7965 of 16125
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

a couple of random thoughts:
most of us are men (if not all) and I'd say eyeballing color may provide the best experience for us. Afterall, a coloromiter sees the true colors accuractely wink.gif
if you watch netflix through your hub, I read that some of the tv processing gets disabled automatically - but if you stream it from a source like your bluray player, that won't happen.
there's a lot more watching going on the living room than usual these days =]

I don't use the hub video apps because it disables all the goodies, you can clearly tell while watching
post #7966 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

You are correct, I do not own one, but I have spent quality time with one, running it through multiple test's and looking closely at its performance against other high end sets. I also have a lot of experience with a lot of older Samsung LED sets as I have calibrated many of them. Just because I do not own one doesn't mean I do not know it. That's like saying a reviewer's review of a TV is not credible because he/she does not own one for themselves. I know this set better than most owner's posting here smile.gif When I feel I can chime in and give my opinion or input I do. Some may not like what I have to say, but that's the good thing about a opinion, you can agree or disagree. This post is to just point out I know this TV really well as I have had a lot of time to play with it.

Just bustin your chops! smile.gif
post #7967 of 16125
ooo, looking forward to that.
post #7968 of 16125
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

hey hey, funny thing is when I ask my wife what she thinks of the tv since she gets to watch it while Im at work, this is the only thing she's complained about =]
I've seen it too now --- when will I ever learn not to update something out of the box till I feel that there's already an issue first?!

Wait are we talking about the SmartHub or has RFB been flashing your wife during the day through the set while you're at work? smile.gif
post #7969 of 16125
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Originally Posted by rckrz6 View Post

Heres the audio settings in PS3


As You can see the TV reports to PS3 that it DOES NOT support Dolby digital input through hdmi (Dolby Digital shows on all my sony tvs)



Selected manual instead of auto


Now i have dolby digital support

Same goes for the Xbox


TV reporting it does not support Dolby digital even when selected in the xbox menu

Forcing the audio selection, bypassing what audio/video settings the tv says it supports



must be magic
AH pictures are wonderful. So the question is why is the ES reporting it can't handle DD. Sounds to me like you found a bug. All I can say is report and hope for the best. Good find. This may have started two firmware releases ago because my Apple TV stopped sending the TV DD through the HDMI cable at that point. I actually thought is was an Apple TV issue though.
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

AH pictures are wonderful. So the question is why is the ES reporting it can't handle DD. Sounds to me like you found a bug. All I can say is report and hope for the best. Good find. This may have started two firmware releases ago because my Apple TV stopped sending the TV DD through the HDMI cable at that point. I actually thought is was an Apple TV issue though.

i been having this issue since june when i purchased the tv
post #7971 of 16125
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Originally Posted by rckrz6 View Post

i been having this issue since june when i purchased the tv

So if I am understanding this correctly, the only way this would be an issue is if you have your video sources plugged directly into the TV and not using a receiver to switch audio/video. This would mean you are using the built in speakers.

I gotta think that after dropping the cash on a TV like this, that getting a decent AVR and speakers would be a pretty good investment.
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

You are correct, I do not own one, but I have spent quality time with one, running it through multiple test's and looking closely at its performance against other high end sets. I also have a lot of experience with a lot of older Samsung LED sets as I have calibrated many of them. Just because I do not own one doesn't mean I do not know it. That's like saying a reviewer's review of a TV is not credible because he/she does not own one for themselves. I know this set better than most owner's posting here smile.gif When I feel I can chime in and give my opinion or input I do. Some may not like what I have to say, but that's the good thing about a opinion, you can agree or disagree. This post is to just point out I know this TV really well as I have had a lot of time to play with it.

I must say I do like your disposition.

Unfortunately for reviewers, they only have a limited amount of time with a set to figure out the ins and outs, and they do miss things. It goes with the reality of the situation though and is to be expected. There is also much more in choosing a set than how good it looks on a scope; money, looks, size, features, preference, environment....

I'm pretty sure you ordered you VT already. Do you know when it will arrive?
post #7973 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

I must say I do like your disposition.
Unfortunately for reviewers, they only have a limited amount of time with a set to figure out the ins and outs, and they do miss things. It goes with the reality of the situation though and is to be expected. There is also much more in choosing a set than how good it looks on a scope; money, looks, size, features, preference, environment....
I'm pretty sure you ordered you VT already. Do you know when it will arrive?

I already have it. Running 150 hours of break in slides before I start the calibration. Then next step after calibrating will be to wall mount it in my HT room. I checked it out, no dead or stuck pixels, no banding, uniformity is 100% spot on with all of the color slides.

The main thing I look for when buying a TV is just raw picture performance. I could care less what it looks like or how much it cost's. On this purchase, I needed a TV that could replace my 9G Pioneer Elite Kuro that died. The VT50 is the only TV I feel meets those demands of mine. The Pioneer Elite Kuro's are the best TV's that were ever made. The VT50 is on par with it and I feel comfortable with my decision of replacing it with the VT50 since it is on the same level as my 9G Kuro. Plus I added the extra 5 inches of real estate.
Edited by Bolt989 - 12/13/12 at 12:53pm
post #7974 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Mavinwow View Post

So if I am understanding this correctly, the only way this would be an issue is if you have your video sources plugged directly into the TV and not using a receiver to switch audio/video. This would mean you are using the built in speakers.
I gotta think that after dropping the cash on a TV like this, that getting a decent AVR and speakers would be a pretty good investment.


I use HDMI ARC to a sound bar, the soundbar only has 1 hdmi in so my other sources must pass through the TV first. I live in an apartment so im sure my neighbors wouldn't like anymore bass then i currently have
Edited by rckrz6 - 12/13/12 at 12:57pm
post #7975 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

I already have it. Running 150 hours of break in slides before I start the calibration. Then next step after calibrating will be to wall mount it in my HT room. I checked it out, no dead or stuck pixels, no banding, uniformity is 100% spot on with all of the color slides.
The main thing I look for when buying a TV is just raw picture performance. I could care less what it looks like or how much it cost's. On this purchase, I needed a TV that could replace my 9G Pioneer Elite Kuro that died. The VT50 is the only TV I feel meets those demands of mine. The Pioneer Elite Kuro's are the best TV's that were ever made. The VT50 is on par with it and I feel comfortable with my decision of replacing it with the VT50 since it is on the same level as my 9G Kuro. Plus I added the extra 5 inches of real estate.

Very nice. Good for you. You must have been sick then when the Elite died. Or were you ready for some new tech?
post #7976 of 16125
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Originally Posted by rckrz6 View Post

I use HDMI ARC to a sound bar, the soundbar only has 1 hdmi in so my other sources must pass through the TV first. I live in an apartment so im sure my neighbors wouldn't like anymore bass then i currently have

Ha, true. A lot of people here are using a soundbar. There's been a lot of talk about them in this thread.
post #7977 of 16125
Actually current receivers with the Audyssey settings actually manage the sound on the fly and do an amzing job of immersing you in a theater like experience where you can hear all the highs and lows and feel likeyou are in a theater listening to reference level sound, but actually aren't making much noise that your neighbors would notice.

Dennon has good no bs ones with Audyssey...If rico stops flashing my wife for a second Im sure he could tell you about the yamahas as well =]
post #7978 of 16125
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Originally Posted by Garnoch View Post

Very nice. Good for you. You must have been sick then when the Elite died. Or were you ready for some new tech?

I was very sick! I could barely do my work. I was maybe thinking about buying another used Elite, but you just never know how previous owners treated and handled the set. (Not to keen on buying used high end TV's) The VT50 is pretty much a Kuro IMO. I am 100% satisfied. In fact if you put a Kuro next to a VT50 I would be hard pressed that anyone would notice any real difference side by side, they are so close. In fact, the VT50 seems to have smoother gradation in the shadow detail and it does have better color accuracy. I was able to calibrate my test VT50 to near perfect color. It was so close, I have never seen any other TV get as close as I could with the VT50. Truly remarkable.
post #7979 of 16125
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

Actually current receivers with the Audyssey settings actually manage the sound on the fly and do an amzing job of immersing you in a theater like experience where you can hear all the highs and lows and feel likeyou are in a theater listening to reference level sound, but actually aren't making much noise that your neighbors would notice.
Dennon has good no bs ones with Audyssey...If rico stops flashing my wife for a second Im sure he could tell you about the yamahas as well =]


For sound quality, I think the Pioneer Elite line of receivers are un-touched. Those receivers are fricking amazing and will rock your house! The class D amplifiers in those receivers are VERY powerful. Pioneer Elite AVR's have always been my reference for sound quality.
post #7980 of 16125
rocking the house and reference level audio isn't what I or he is trying to achieve though --- we just want to feel like the sound is without it actually doing it. The Audyssey settings really work right ---- everything in the past that has tried to do it hasn't been up to par.
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