Official Samsung UNxxES8000 Owner's Thread - Page 321

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

Very odd. I'll go check now then edit this post....
EDIT:
Sorry I don't use the hub too often but I think you were referring to the Samsung Apps app. When I tried to launch it, it said I needed to update it first. I did. Then it launched and worked fine.

Originally Posted by Garnoch 

Same here - it's starting to make sense haha. My house embarrassingly looks like an Apple Store on paper.

Originally Posted by matnick2127 

I am trying to connect my ES8000 65" Smart Hub to my Home Network through AllShare Play. For some reason I cannot see my network. I am connected to the internet wirelessly. Am I missing something? Please help.
Thanks,

Originally Posted by sabesh 

My Smarthub just updated. Oddly, it re-installed all apps. Current version is: 4.519-5.0

Originally Posted by Needis 

chrisjmccord- yep our tv has horrible viewing angles and not the UVerse.
Garnoch- I made it to the movies a few weeks ago and bought my ticket for the hobbit but than I asked if it was the 48 version...no luck, I had to come back in 3.5 hours if I wanted to watch it in that version. I'm still trying to make time to go watch it. BTW I like the soap opera effect on the 65es8000.

Originally Posted by Needis 

chrisjmccord- yep our tv has horrible viewing angles and not the UVerse.
Garnoch- I made it to the movies a few weeks ago and bought my ticket for the hobbit but than I asked if it was the 48 version...no luck, I had to come back in 3.5 hours if I wanted to watch it in that version. I'm still trying to make time to go watch it. BTW I like the soap opera effect on the 65es8000.

Originally Posted by ruegway 

For those of you who may be interested, the banding that occurs on and LED/LCD backlit television comes from one of the layers of film uses to diffuse the backlight on the edges, and the darker lines you see are areas of higher or lower stress inherent in the film when the film was manufactured. I was involved with the development of a "diffuser film" made from polycarbonate from a major plastics manufacturer, and we sell film to Samsung, as do several other plastics manufacturers-multiple suppliers for the same product in case one has issues supplying Samsung.
There can be as many as six or seven layers of film in a LED/LCD array. I believe the" diffuser layer" is the layer causing the banding. The diffuser film spreads the backlight across the entire width of the film, instead of just lighting the area near the LED's, and on the 65" model, you can see where multiple pieces of diffuser film have been glued together to make the entire array. From the 60" and below samples of TV's I have seen at retailers, they look like 1 complete piece of film across the width of the screen-no gluing or splicing pieces together to get the screen width. No one can apparently make a 65" wide piece of diffuser film-the film is extruded on a calendaring line, and width is limited by the die and width of the calendaring rolls, which put the diffuser texture on the film. At our plant, I know we are not capable of making making greater than 60" wide diffuser film.
The narrower diffuser film used in 60" and below sets is easier to manufacture without stress lines (Banding), and on my first 65" front panel, there was a very clear demarcation line right down the middle of the set, one side being 2 or three shades darker than the section it was attached to. You can also see where the film is sliced horizontally along the width using a zig zag pattern. Wouldn't it be about right for me to have been involved with the development of film that is now biting me in the a$$ with my present TV?

Originally Posted by badabing 


That's what triggered my issue.. It did an automatic update, but 4.519-5.0 is the same exact version i had before the update. My apps are back to normal now.

Originally Posted by Snake Pliskin 

That is really interesting info thank you but ....
That does not explain why we see 5 or 6 lines of vertical banding.
Should there not just be one band where the film is joined together, why so many.
If 60" and below are in one piece, surely 65" should be just 2 pieces and then just one band where thery join ?

Originally Posted by Ricoflashback 

That's a real good point - - I suspect that the bands are where the LED's are? But it doesn't explain why some 65" panels are better than others. Less light leakage?
My vertical banding TV (sent back) - had horrific bands - - very noticeable on all content. My current panel has very slight banding and only visible if you know what to look for and on specific shots - - like fast panning, golf, "cam" or sky shots.
Sports are pristine - - CNN - - not a hint of banding - - anywhere. I also believe that some "shots" lend themselves to banding - - if you have constant light and not dramatic changes from light to dark, you will see no banding (at least on my set).

Originally Posted by cmay91472 

Hey Rico.... Your description fits my set to a tee also. Certain movies like the expendables 2 or Kung fu panda 3d that I recently watched had virtually no banding and was only visible by staring at the sky in certain shots. Where as looper had a fast panning scene and a light to dark sky shot that was really noticeable. But overall, the banding only really is noticeable when you specifically look for on certain shots. Underwater scenes seem to bring out the banding as well such as the seal scene in under the sea near the end. But then you see the potato fish scene and it makes it all worth it.
I'll be interested to see if the 2013 65 inches still suffer from banding.

Originally Posted by Bolt989 

All Edge lit LED/LCD's will have banding to some degree. I can spot banding on everyone. Some, of course are worse than others.

Originally Posted by Bolt989 

All Edge lit LED/LCD's will have banding to some degree. I can spot banding on everyone. Some, of course are worse than others.

Originally Posted by thebignewt 

I've read all of this banding stuff, and I maybe saw it once on my TV for about 2 seconds on a view of very light sky. I wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't been looking for it because of this forum. I have the impression that in order to have it piss you off you need to be showing a "slide" of almost a white screen with the backlight cranked up and stare at that. Normal TV won't really show it unless your TV isn't made right. And that may happen too often with this set, but I don't really know that. Just my 0.02.

Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959 

es8000 bro's, I highly recommend the VUDU and it's UltraViolet section whether you stream from bluray player or the 8000. It's quality stuff, easy to setup, easy to build your library in the cloud.
You can stream std, 720 or 1080. I'll be curious how other 8000's perform on this. Mine is streamed via my e6500 bluray player cuz you all know I'm on FW minus 00003 LOL!!!
It looks like an amazing way to upgrade some ownership and archive in the cloud as opposed to buying the sets if you dont want to store the discs.

Originally Posted by Jestered 

Do you have a DLNA server running on your computer at home?

Originally Posted by cmay91472 

If you have a 65, banding is noticeable on any content, not just slides. It's a limitation of the design. If you don't see it, you are fortunate but it is still there. You just may not be as sensitive to it in the same way others aren't bothered or don't notice buzzing on plasma or dead pixels, etc.