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post #991 of 16126
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Originally Posted by s.myers View Post


I wish they would lose the apps completely and concentrate on better tv's.

Xbox already has it covered and does a much better job.

I know it's not hard but for my wife and other family members it much easier to use the apps on the tv.
post #992 of 16126
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Originally Posted by Islandborn View Post

65" is/was supposed to be in june/july...the un75es800 from all my phone calls to the big New York chains, say October on there correspondence from Samsung...Probably gonna be more like October in my dreams as I have been waiting forever for the 65 or 75...I just said F-it and bought an 80" Sharrp 844u...Pic quality is awesome, and I figure i'm gonna want to swap the tv in a few years anyways, once 4k resolution, and the next format that trumps bluray comes out...So I buy now and be happy with 80" of full array goodness....My .o2$

thanks for the note - i'm looking forward to the 65 because according to its dimensions its the biggest tv I can fit into the custom built-in my house came with. great news!
post #993 of 16126
I was working on my settings today and when I do the AVS disc under standard in the pattern with 230 + the cars have a red tint to them, pushing pink. When I change the mode to movie the bars turn grey. Is there a way to turn red push down? I have tint at 50/50 after my calibrations. When in movie mode I have flash lighting with a back light of 15, standard I don't at 15.
post #994 of 16126
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Originally Posted by westa6969 View Post

The key word is "Coming Out Soon" --- IMO this is very unlikely unless it's a 2012 Elite 70/80/90" versions. My bet is that an Elite will easily beat an ES with the lights turned out as it blew away the D8000 last year at the flat panel shootout and I can attest that my 60" D8000 is a fraud with the lights out and i see no way of Edge Lit Tech ever matching or exceeding a local dimmed panel like an Elite.

There is an LG Hi Res 84" set on the horizon supposedly for fall but LG has done head fakes on debuts for 3 yrs running that look great at Trade Shows but rarely if ever have made it to N. America for Consumer purchase.

There are discussions of new R&D advances for the near future beyond 2012 but unlikely to appear anytime soon without CES as it's launch pad but even then typically anything is 6 months or later to follow 2013 CES.

Sony hx850 beats it.
post #995 of 16126
Has anyone got a clue as to what the new firmware that came out today 1018 has done? As usual the Samsung website is completely useless in this regard. I just updated so I haven't a clue..
post #996 of 16126
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Originally Posted by SiL3NCE View Post

Has anyone got a clue as to what the new firmware that came out today 1018 has done? As usual the Samsung website is completely useless in this regard. I just updated so I haven't a clue..

EVERY firmware update is on their website................

This firmware is for TV Model(s): UN**ES7500 and UN**ES8000.
The version is 1018.2
This firmware update will improve the following:
- Supports Samsung Audio Dock
- Resolves compatibility issue with DLNA devices and network router/switch.
- Improves picture quality.
- Enhances Voice Recognition feature.
- change the TV Power On command from ''Hi TV'' to ''Hi TV Power On'' or ''Smart TV'' to ''Smart TV Power On.''
post #997 of 16126
I got this set yesterday (the european version 8005) and first impressions is good. I'm a newbie when it comes to calibrating TVs so I have a question for you. Do any of you got some good settings for SD content? I've calibrated the set so that HD content looks ok, but SD doesn't look that hot right now.
post #998 of 16126
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Originally Posted by rob4448585 View Post

EVERY firmware update is on their website................

This firmware is for TV Model(s): UN**ES7500 and UN**ES8000.
The version is 1018.2
This firmware update will improve the following:
- Supports Samsung Audio Dock
- Resolves compatibility issue with DLNA devices and network router/switch.
- Improves picture quality.
- Enhances Voice Recognition feature.
- change the TV Power On command from ''Hi TV'' to ''Hi TV Power On'' or ''Smart TV'' to ''Smart TV Power On.''

Hi Rob, does your tv really doesn't have any clouding? I mean, in a full dark room? Cause mine looks great with the Tv tests in the pictures taken with my camera, but a completely dark screen or movie with dark scenes it's a different story; there's clouding on the sides and above the logo there's a "v" another user mentioned, all of this is even visible with a lamp on in a dark room.

I'm using the standard mode, with backlight at 8 and is visible :'(
post #999 of 16126
Update on my set, I'll have it in the next week or so, it's finally been shipped from Samsung.

Also, as for people discussing uniformity/clouding/bleeding, please read the link below.
http://asia.cnet.com/is-tv-brightnes...m-62213336.htm
It's also often mistakenly assumed it's a "defect" with the television. If you watch dark movies, or ones with letterbox bars, it can also be extremely distracting.


Key points, all of the edge lit sets suffer the same issues, it's not limited to a single manufacturer or set. It does calm down after a few weeks, if you're looking for any issues, you're going to see them, and they're going to bother you.

Suggestion, as per all the other threads, set the Backlight at 8, turn on the eco sensor, set it to bottom out at 4. Anyone new to an edge lit set likely is unaware that a backlight setting of 8 is equal to an older rear lit sets backlight level of 15~16.

I will have some ISF values here in the next couple of weeks once my set breaks in.
post #1000 of 16126
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Originally Posted by DarkknightEngel View Post

Hi Rob, does your tv really doesn't have any clouding? I mean, in a full dark room? Cause mine looks great with the Tv tests in the pictures taken with my camera, but a completely dark screen or movie with dark scenes it's a different story; there's clouding on the sides and above the logo there's a "v" another user mentioned, all of this is even visible with a lamp on in a dark room.

I'm using the standard mode, with backlight at 8 and is visible :'(


Hi!

This is my second TV, and while it IS better than my first es8000, I am still not 100% sold on it.

Here is a couple of pictures I took earlier





I am starting to notice LIGHT clouding/flashlighting in the 4 corners a little bit.
I think if it doesn't get better, ill order a third set from amazon, and if that one isn't any better then unfortunetly i'll have to move on to a different TV/brand.
If the TV was half the price I wouldn't care about the minor imperfections, but at $3200 I expect the TV to be perfect.......
post #1001 of 16126
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Originally Posted by rob4448585 View Post

Hi!

This is my second TV, and while it IS better than my first es8000, I am still not 100% sold on it.

Here is a couple of pictures I took earlier





I am starting to notice LIGHT clouding/flashlighting in the 4 corners a little bit.
I think if it doesn't get better, ill order a third set from amazon, and if that one isn't any better then unfortunetly i'll have to move on to a different TV/brand.
If the TV was half the price I wouldn't care about the minor imperfections, but at $3200 I expect the TV to be perfect.......


Please read, http://asia.cnet.com/is-tv-brightnes...m-62213336.htm

This "issue" isn't a defect, it happens to all of the edge lit sets.
If you can't deal with it, you need something with a different backlight system, but keep in mind, they have their own issues, sometimes much more serious.
Also, set the backlight to 8, turn on the eco sensor, set it to bottom out at 4.
As mentioned above, 8 on these sets is equal to 15-16 on other backlight systems, you really don't need to set it above this, and if you do, you will see where the light converges.
A different brand will not solve your "issue", they all have their own issues, you need a different backlight system, or a plasma.
With your backlight set to 20, any sane person would expect to see issues.
post #1002 of 16126
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Originally Posted by nitra View Post

Please read, http://asia.cnet.com/is-tv-brightnes...m-62213336.htm

This "issue" isn't a defect, it happens to all of the edge lit sets.
If you can't deal with it, you need something with a different backlight system, but keep in mind, they have their own issues, sometimes much more serious.
Also, set the backlight to 8, turn on the eco sensor, set it to bottom out at 4.
As mentioned above, 8 on these sets is equal to 15-16 on other backlight systems, you really don't need to set it above this, and if you do, you will see where the light converges.


I am reading the article right now.....

I understand it might not be a 'defect' per say, but you can't say it is a desirable feature can you?

If it happens to ALL edge lit tv sets, then why are some edge lit es8000 tvs different from others?

If it was uniform across ALL tv's then I would 100% agree with your statement.

When I watch a movie and there is dark scenes and in the 4 corners I see grey/white streaks in the movie, then there is a problem.......
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Streaking like that set at the top is not normal, the other lighting is "normal"
And yes, all sets are different.
If you are watching a movie with the backlight set at 20, you will see issues, keep in mind, these sets have a 3-4 week break-in period, while it may not resolve 100%, a lot of the issues can go away. Flashlighting/clouding/banding is _normal_ for this type of backlight system. There are times when it's not, if the light is visible at all times, on any background color etc, you should have service look at it.
post #1004 of 16126
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Originally Posted by nitra View Post



Streaking like that set at the top is not normal, the other lighting is "normal"
And yes, all sets are different.
If you are watching a movie with the backlight set at 20, you will see issues, keep in mind, these sets have a 3-4 week break-in period, while it may not resolve 100%, a lot of the issues can go away. Flashlighting/clouding/banding is _normal_ for this type of backlight system. There are times when it's not, if the light is visible at all times, on any background color etc, you should have service look at it.


thats not even a ES8000 tv
post #1005 of 16126
No it's not, it's an example of what's not normal, the black streaks at the top.
post #1006 of 16126
check it out unboxing http://youtu.be/do44rt0UVKc
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Have samsung came out with a newer panel version yet? After 2 weeks I began to notice the flashlight has almost completely gone except for those rare occasions but the light bleed along the bottom of my set is going to drive me crazy not only that but I've spotted a stuck/dead pixel which I've tried many methods to get rid of, to no avail and to top it off I see 3 bands going across my screen which is noticeable when switching sources or dark backgrounds that I've never noticed before..
post #1008 of 16126
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Originally Posted by SiL3NCE View Post

Have samsung came out with a newer panel version yet? After 2 weeks I began to notice the flashlight has almost completely gone except for those rare occasions but the light bleed along the bottom of my set is going to drive me crazy not only that but I've spotted a stuck/dead pixel which I've tried many methods to get rid of, to no avail and to top it off I see 3 bands going across my screen which is noticeable when switching sources or dark backgrounds that I've never noticed before..

Any pics of your issues?
post #1009 of 16126
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Originally Posted by rob4448585 View Post

Any pics of your issues?

No, but I'll try to get some later when it gets dark out. I'm not sure how well these issues will show up on my iphone 4s camera though..
post #1010 of 16126
Just bit the bullet and purchase the 60es8000!! Delivery is scheduled for this Saturday. This thread is so huge that it's tough to sift through. Any pointers guys?
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Does anyone know if the WMN250 Samsung mount will work in a wall with metal studs? I just ordered the 46" 8000 and am now deciding on the wall mount.

The samsung one is a little more expensive then the one that monoprice sells. But it looks WAY cooler . My issue though, is that I know I can add in a bunch of bolts to stabilize the monoprice one, since it is fairly large, but will I be able to make the WMN250 work with metal studs?
post #1012 of 16126
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Originally Posted by H( . Y . )TeRs View Post

Just bit the bullet and purchase the 60es8000!! Delivery is scheduled for this Saturday. This thread is so huge that it's tough to sift through. Any pointers guys?

Here's a pointer, stop reading this thread before you regret buying your tv

Seriously though, I've found that ever since I started reading through forums on tv's I've purchased, it makes me notice the flaws more than anything. Flaws that I probably wouldn't have noticed in the first place. Don't let others peoples negative experiences affect you enjoying your tv.
post #1013 of 16126
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Originally Posted by JewDaddy View Post

Here's a pointer, stop reading this thread before you regret buying your tv

Seriously though, I've found that ever since I started reading through forums on tv's I've purchased, it makes me notice the flaws more than anything. Flaws that I probably wouldn't have noticed in the first place. Don't let others peoples negative experiences affect you enjoying your tv.

Now you are taking a the fun away, Isn't that what the forums are all about getting rid of the lemons and knowing the common flaws
post #1014 of 16126
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Originally Posted by JewDaddy View Post


Here's a pointer, stop reading this thread before you regret buying your tv

Seriously though, I've found that ever since I started reading through forums on tv's I've purchased, it makes me notice the flaws more than anything. Flaws that I probably wouldn't have noticed in the first place. Don't let others peoples negative experiences affect you enjoying your tv.

Agreed! Still easier said than done
post #1015 of 16126
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Originally Posted by JewDaddy View Post

Here's a pointer, stop reading this thread before you regret buying your tv

Seriously though, I've found that ever since I started reading through forums on tv's I've purchased, it makes me notice the flaws more than anything. Flaws that I probably wouldn't have noticed in the first place. Don't let others peoples negative experiences affect you enjoying your tv.

Yup!
post #1016 of 16126
Personally I think forums are a good thing as it gives people not to mention manufacturers honest insight on flaws so that fixes and changes for the better can be made. If all of us were satisfied with all these flaws there properly wouldn't be any real progression in terms of PQ and features. Here are the pics I took of the issues I'm facing..
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My camera doesn't really give this issues justice but here's another pic, of the grey scale you can kinda see the horizontal banding there's about 3-4. Light bleed is a little more obvious in the second pic. Also while watching widescreen movies my set suffers from light bleed across the whole bottom black bar
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post #1018 of 16126
SiL3NCE; the banding, lightbleed and flashlighting is 100% normal, see http://asia.cnet.com/is-tv-brightnes...m-62213336.htm
in fact, yours isn't very bad at all, correct use of the backlight and use of the eco sensor will get rid of most of it. Try backlight of 8, and the eco sensor set to bottom out at 4.

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It's also often mistakenly assumed it's a "defect" with the television. If you watch dark movies, or ones with letterbox bars, it can also be extremely distracting.

As for the stuck pixel, call support, they will send someone out, after they verify it, they will order you a new panel, or you can exchange it with your local store. Samsungs service is pretty painless.

Sidenote, did you ever lay your panel flat on the ground? face up or face down?
post #1019 of 16126
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Originally Posted by nitra View Post

SiL3NCE; the banding, lightbleed and flashlighting is 100% normal, see http://asia.cnet.com/is-tv-brightnes...m-62213336.htm
in fact, yours isn't very bad at all, correct use of the backlight and use of the eco sensor will get rid of most of it. Try backlight of 8, and the eco sensor set to bottom out at 4.



As for the stuck pixel, call support, they will send someone out, after they verify it, they will order you a new panel, or you can exchange it with your local store. Samsungs service is pretty painless.

Sidenote, did you ever lay your panel flat on the ground? face up or face down?

My setting were the same as kha0tic only difference being I dropped the backlight to 10 and seeing as how I've broken it in, I shouldn't have to drop it lower than 10 for the issues to be masked. I never laid my on panel on the ground but on the tv box itself on top of the scratch protective tv casing that covered the tv when I first unboxed it. I did this only because the manual said to follow these steps when applying the tv stand, which I had to use for a bit until I got the right screws to mount it. Seeing as it's in the manual and not a plasma I thought it was okay? Btw are you sure samsung support will send someone out to examine it if it's just one dead pixel? I've heard it has to be at lease 4 to be replaced over on the UE**ES8000 avforums I think.
post #1020 of 16126
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Originally Posted by SiL3NCE View Post

My setting were the same as kha0tic only difference being I dropped the backlight to 10 and seeing as how I've broken it in, I shouldn't have to drop it lower than 10 for the issues to be masked. I never laid my on panel on the ground but on the tv box itself on top of the scratch protective tv casing that covered the tv when I first unboxed it. I did this only because the manual said to follow these steps when applying the tv stand, which I had to use for a bit until I got the right screws to mount it. Seeing as it's in the manual and not a plasma I thought it was okay? Btw are you sure samsung support will send someone out to examine it if it's just one dead pixel? I've heard it has to be at lease 4 to be replaced over on the UE**ES8000 avforums I think.

Just so you area aware, backlight setting of 8 equals about 15-16 on the older backlight systems. If you call in to Samsung or have service come out regarding the lighting, they will advise you to put the light to 8. You can keep it at 10, but use the ECO sensor, it's really a fantastic feature.

On the dead pixel, I've seen screens replaced by Samsung Canada with just 1. That said, on a large screen, 1 pixel isn't noticeable unless you're up close and personal. I still would ask for a screen replacement for that issue.

For the lighting issues, please read the cnet post above, your lighting and banding issues are normal. I fully understand your point, you shouldn't need to lower the backlight to mask the issue, but if you understand why the issue is there, it's light convergence mostly, lowering the backlight will fix it at no loss. If you have a room that is bright during the day, and dark at night, seriously, try the ECO sensor, it's one of the best features Samsung has in the TV's.
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