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post #1021 of 3924
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Originally Posted by powrwrap View Post

TV is on at the time. Try it with no signal on the screen or else with content where you can consistently see the light bleed.
I don't use very much pressure at all. Hard to describe how much pressure I use but here goes--Suppose you have a brand new tube of toothpaste. You uncap it and place thumb and forefinger on opposite sides of the tube in the middle of the length of tube. Apply pressure until toothpaste starts coming out of the tube. I would say that amount of pressure is a bit more pressure than I used. It doesn't take much effort and results are immediate. Start out with very little pressure and see what happens. When you apply pressure you can see the light bleed shape change. When you are applying light pressure and slide thumb and finger along the edge of the TV you can watch the light bleed shape move and follow your thumb/finger position. It's quite weird--sort of like you're using a paint brush stroke set on wide pattern in a painting software program.

Strange question, but; Are we attemting to move the darker areas to cover the lighter areas, or pushe the lighter area into the darker area?
post #1022 of 3924
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Originally Posted by amajamar View Post

Strange question, but; Are we attemting to move the darker areas to cover the lighter areas, or pushe the lighter area into the darker area?

It's not a matter of pushing the light or dark areas around, it's just a matter of making the light areas go away. The reason I said I ran my thumb and forefinger along the top edge of my screen was because my light bleed was linear along the top edge, right side of the screen (and left edge lower part of the screen.)



If you have light bleed that shows as spots along the edge you might try pinching with light pressure in those areas along the edge where you would perceive the center of the light spot to be.
post #1023 of 3924
Judging by the black levels, looks like your brightness is set pretty high. When you turn the brightness high enough, the backlight bleeding is less noticeable. If you set your brightness level to around 40, how does the backlight bleeding look then?
post #1024 of 3924
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Originally Posted by vater View Post

Judging by the black levels, looks like your brightness is set pretty high. When you turn the brightness high enough, the backlight bleeding is less noticeable. If you set your brightness level to around 40, how does the backlight bleeding look then?

It's set at 50. I'll check it out tonight.
Edited by powrwrap - 8/6/12 at 3:09pm
post #1025 of 3924
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Originally Posted by Pirate03 View Post

Well not quite my youtube app crashed again after playing 1-2 hrs of videos on weekend ...will pack up the TV and send it back smile.gif

Received a new TV last week..youtube app on this one seems to be much better than the previous...I can see some bleeding on new TV with No Signal but its not affecting the over all picture quality...
post #1026 of 3924
Here are photos of my set with only the brightness setting being changed, all other settings were identical between the two photos (Relevant settings: backlight = 50, contrast = 90)




Brightness set to 50





Brightness set to 40

The light bleed is on the right side of the top edge of screen and on the lower left edge of screen. When I look at the photos side-by-side using Adobe Photoshop Elements I can't tell much difference, if any in the light bleed. I checked this post in preview mode and it looks as if the brightness setting of 50 produces slightly less light bleed. Go figure.

Here is what the set looks like with a black image on the screen (no light bleed):

post #1027 of 3924
Despite everybody's recommendations, it took me a month or two to realize that this tv looks significantly better with local dimming set to low. Setting it to high really improved the flashlighting issue, but it created a host of other problems. The biggest problems were that there were extremely visible dark bars that extended from many dark objects on the screen. The other problem is that the tv just seemed dark.

With local dimming set to low, you get an increased brightness that allows you to tweak other parameters (brightness and backlight) to get the flashlighting mostly under control. I still wish that the flashlighting was not as much of a problem and that the black level was lower, but this is a great tv.
post #1028 of 3924
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Originally Posted by chipperatl View Post

I sprung for the 55LM7600 at Best Buy last night. They price matched to $1405. Looking forward to getting it on Friday (my choice for delivery). Got the BP620 player to go with it, and finally able to pick up an Apple TV since my 65" 10 year old Mitsubishi rear projection "Beast" has no HDMI. I am going to keep using my Onkyo HT-R500 for the time being. Already have a WD Live TV Hub for storage of videos, pics and music. I appreciate the setting discussions that are posted in here, as it will be a huge help once it arrives. Very pleased with the price, as I have been looking at LG 120hz options for some time, and was able to get this cheaper than what I have seen at Amazon or BB for the 120hz.


What company did you use to get that price match?
post #1029 of 3924
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Originally Posted by mrnyknicks View Post

What company did you use to get that price match?
They pulled it up for me on Google Shopping. I'm not positive it was East Coast TV, but the price matches what they had on there. Before I went to the store what I found was $1414. Now East Coast is up to $1504.
post #1030 of 3924
thanks
post #1031 of 3924
So I have some minor light bleed along the top. I decided to try loosening the rear screws and it kinda works...temporarily. One spot won't go away, but is quite minor. I actually made the bleed worse at one point. I adjusted everything and tightened the screws back down. Now, if I clean my screen, pushing on it makes a creaking noise and the bleed returns. I now have it as good as it is getting as long as I don't mess with it.

TV1-LG 60PM6700-Debris behind screen. Audio sync off with 24 fps content. Wouldn't play 1080i encoded blurays properly. 3D sucked.
TV2-Same issues as TV1
TV3-LG 55LM6700. Bad light bleed. Horrible uniformity. Pre trumotion update.
TV4-LG 60PM6500 Horrible dithering to the point of disrupting lines on letterbox content. Green specks all over even after calibrated.
TV5-Samsung PN64E550. Buzzing. Picture looked terrible with anything but bluray. Shadow detail and facial textures were horrible. 3D sucked.
TV6-Epson 8350 projector. No issues actually. Was gonna run dual displays but ran into issues without spoofing the HDMI connection. Had to go back.
TV7-LG 55LM6700(again). Uniformity issues but ok with local dimming on. Would not display 720p Bluray rips from my apple tv without dropping frames due to the 60hz panel.
TV8-LG 55LM7600. Everything works great. Minor light bleed at top but all else is good.

After everything I've been through the past 5 months, I can live with the minor light bleed. They all have flaws. Every model that you choose. Every brand. Not a single one is perfect. You just have to decide which flaw you can live with. This TV looks gorgeous. The picture is amazing. Motion is good with the 7600. 3D is awesome. Don't have to worry about my kids accidentally burning it in. No buzzing. Uniformity is good on my set. My apple tv rips work great with it. Just watched Game of Thrones on bluray and it is mind blowing. As a consumer you shouldn't have to go through 8 TVs to find one that actually works. But that is the state of things at this time.
post #1032 of 3924
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Originally Posted by cjsiv View Post

After everything I've been through the past 5 months, I can live with the minor light bleed. They all have flaws. Every model that you choose. Every brand. Not a single one is perfect. You just have to decide which flaw you can live with. This TV looks gorgeous. The picture is amazing. Motion is good with the 7600. 3D is awesome. Don't have to worry about my kids accidentally burning it in. No buzzing. Uniformity is good on my set. My apple tv rips work great with it. Just watched Game of Thrones on bluray and it is mind blowing. As a consumer you shouldn't have to go through 8 TVs to find one that actually works. But that is the state of things at this time.

Happy to hear that you've found your set! I guess I got lucky buying the 55LM7600 from the get-go.

Also wanted to add that I was surfing the channels Sunday night and came across Star Trek Insurrection and was astounded at the picture quality. It was fabulous! Don't know why but the production values of that movie must have hit the sweet spot of the 7600 just right.
post #1033 of 3924
Hi all,

i got "my bloody valentine" 3d and 2d from biglots. i heard the 3d effects will be good, so got this. it came with green/red glass. when i played the dvd, the 3d was not showing at all. i have seen SBS 3d in this tv and it was good, but not the anaglyph. does this tv not play 3d anaglyph movies?

did anybody check?
post #1034 of 3924
That is the "old" version before the re-release to 1080p true 3D. I have the new version and it looks pretty good. The version you have will play on any tv. It's not 3D like the current crop. That's why it was cheap at big lots. Anglyph is not really 3d in my opinion. It is, but nothing like current mvc 3D.
Edited by cjsiv - 8/9/12 at 6:55am
post #1035 of 3924
Got a 47LM7600 from Amazon on Saturday for $999 + free 2 day shipping w/ Amazon Prime. Still working on my settings but overall, for the price and feature set, I am very impressed with this tv. I'm getting the typical light bleed that only seems to really be noticable on a blank/black screen. If I can't work it out with the suggestions here, then I'll be able to live with it. Feel like this set is a steal at the price Amazon has it for right now. Knowing that just a few months ago this set was $1500-$1900 made me jump on the deal. Actually bought it for $1100 but saw the price drop after it shipped and discovered that TVs are the only items that Amazon will post-order price match on. A quick call to customer support had the $100 refunded to my account, no questions asked.

I was worried about the passive 3D performance over the active sets I've seen in-store. 2D-3D conversion is expectedly mediocre (not a negative since this is a product of the limitations with any upconversions), but the true stereoscopic 3D content I've been able to check out so far has been impressive.

A+ for the TV (so far), price and Amazon customer service... C- for lackluster FedEx delivery service that cost me an extra day waiting for delivery due to a "delivery exception" and their inability either contact me prior to refusing delivery, or to dispatch information to the driver (my experience with UPS has been much better with these types of situations).

Btw, I've seen a few threads on Sony's simulview and how to emulate it with other sets... I LOVE the fact that this crop of LGs have a "dual play" feature built-in that does the job of simulview on any game (simulview compatible or not) and can work with either horizontal or vertical splitscreens.
post #1036 of 3924
Hello friends i just got my 47lm7600. All good by the moment... I'm going to try some settings from here to see how it looks, but there is something i don't know, how can i see the soap opera effect??? this have something to do with the tru motion?? also How can I enable the 240hz???
Thank you... Xoxo
Edited by Cinderella17 - 8/9/12 at 3:48pm
post #1037 of 3924
Not sure others are facing this issue. but in my TV youtube app does not work well. i recently reduced my internet speed from 20MBPS to 10MBPS. then when i played my HD contents from youtube, it won't even play the songs for 2 minutes. it buffered a lot and to my surprise, all non HD contents weer playing fine. I thought it might be becauseof internet speed.

Then i connected to youtube via LG blu ray player and played the same songs. whola... it played without any issues. That shows my internet speed isnot a problem, but only the youtube app in the TV is causing issue. I can manage with this.

but for a $1000 tv, can't play youtube, hm... it definitely needs an update. youtube is the only place where i can play some online movies for free... thats why am so specific on youtube. is there any other app that i can use in this tv that can show free movies?

does any one else face this issue?

Thanks.
post #1038 of 3924
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Originally Posted by quaker_18 View Post

........ is there any other app that i can use in this tv that can show free movies?
Thanks.

Honestly, for the $60 or so, get a Roku for watching free movies, or if you subscribe to HBO or EPIX, etc.... you can access all their movies and shows for free, and there plenty of other free apps on Roku that do not require any other subscription.
Youtube works on my 7600, but the app restricts access. Rather then dwell on that one thing I just moved on and use other sources. On the other side of that, the VUDU app for instance produces a stunning picture.
post #1039 of 3924
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Originally Posted by quaker_18 View Post

Not sure others are facing this issue. but in my TV youtube app does not work well. i recently reduced my internet speed from 20MBPS to 10MBPS. then when i played my HD contents from youtube, it won't even play the songs for 2 minutes. it buffered a lot and to my surprise, all non HD contents weer playing fine. I thought it might be becauseof internet speed.
Then i connected to youtube via LG blu ray player and played the same songs. whola... it played without any issues. That shows my internet speed isnot a problem, but only the youtube app in the TV is causing issue. I can manage with this.
but for a $1000 tv, can't play youtube, hm... it definitely needs an update. youtube is the only place where i can play some online movies for free... thats why am so specific on youtube. is there any other app that i can use in this tv that can show free movies?
does any one else face this issue?
Thanks.

I have a same prob with youtube app in my TV with 30Mbps internet connection (wired). My Old TV was lot worse the New one seems to play HD Content well for sometime and after that it waits for ever to buffer. May be LG has to come up with some firmware updates to fix this.
Edited by Pirate03 - 8/11/12 at 12:15am
post #1040 of 3924
Friends this tv comes with the app store installed? Or i have to install? Or to download the apps i have to go to the website? Cause i can't find the app in my tv....

Thank you
post #1041 of 3924
Hello, I got my 55LM7600 about a month ago. Finally bit on it when it was offered at Fry's for $1599 over the 4th July holiday sale. I'm rather impressed by the tv. Especially with the new update that allows it to sync with your set top box. I was thinking of getting a webcam to go with the tv, but am unsure about it. $100 seems a lot for a webcam just for the tv. On the other hand, Logitech's HD TV Cam goes for $199

On a side note, I'm trying to find a video converter program to convert HD movies I have on my external hard drive to 3D. The TV's 2D-3D conversion software doesn't really impress me, so I've been looking for alternatives that don't include buying a 3D blu-ray player. I made the mistake of purchasing Xilisoft 3D Video Converter without testing it out. While the program does have several options for 3D conversion, none seem ideal for this tv. Has anyone tried any 3D video converter software that they can recommend?
post #1042 of 3924
As far as I'm concerned, 1080p MVC 3D is the only choice. Conversion software is no different than using the TVs 2D to 3D option. It is all kinda half a--ed in comparison. Just my opinion. Others may differ.
post #1043 of 3924
Any body have good settings for sports. I just got the tv and am watching the olympics and there are artifacts produced by fast motion. I played with with the tru motion settings, (tried the presets clear, very clear, etc) but still seems like things looked a bit 'wrong' when watching. Anyone else experienced this problem. Maybe I can adjust the de-judder and de-blur separately yo achieve a better sports picture.
post #1044 of 3924
Does anyone know any tricks to get the flash player in the web browser to full screen properly?

I have discovered that Amazon Prime works great in the flash player in the current firmware version - only problem is no way to full screen. The "detach" option is *almost* full screen but you still have the frame.
post #1045 of 3924
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Originally Posted by forumuser1080 View Post

Any body have good settings for sports. I just got the tv and am watching the olympics and there are artifacts produced by fast motion. I played with with the tru motion settings, (tried the presets clear, very clear, etc) but still seems like things looked a bit 'wrong' when watching. Anyone else experienced this problem. Maybe I can adjust the de-judder and de-blur separately yo achieve a better sports picture.

I use a dejudder of 2 and a deblur of 4 or five. Not a huge sports watcher but it works for fast motion on movies. Try it and see.
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Edited by cjsiv - 8/21/12 at 3:18pm
post #1047 of 3924
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I use a dejudder of 2 and a deblur of 4 or five. Not a huge sports watcher but it works for fast motion on movies. Try it and see.

So I don't see any blur or judder with movies even with super fast motion. I usually turn off the trumotion for movies anyways and picture looks great. Only when watching sports (football, olympics) do I see problems even with trumotion turned all the way up. Its seems like an issue with the foreground or background. I.E when someone is in focus if he is moving fast the foreground/background that is not moving as fast gets blurry (expected and ok) but then the screen looks pixely for a moment. Not sure if this is all LCd tvs.

Anyone that has used this tv to watch sports please reply. Do you see blur/judder/pixilation on fast moving plays? Would think the 120 Hrz or at least the simulated 240 Hrz on this tv would take care of that, but that has not been my experience. Any ideas?
Edited by forumuser1080 - 8/11/12 at 3:58pm
post #1048 of 3924
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Originally Posted by forumuser1080 View Post

Anyone that has used this tv to watch sports please reply. Do you see blur/judder/pixilation on fast moving plays? Would think the 120 Hrz or at least the simulated 240 Hrz on this tv would take care of that, but that has not been my experience. Any ideas?

I watch a lot of baseball and I haven't noticed it. Now that you've mentioned it I will look specifically for it.
post #1049 of 3924
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I watch a lot of baseball and I haven't noticed it. Now that you've mentioned it I will look specifically for it.

Thanks so much!

I also read that it could be my service provider (comcast) or the content provider (abc/nbc/etc...). Before this tv I had a super old (12 yrs) Mitsubishi rear projection so this is my first LCD that is getting an HD signal. I never really noticed the pixleation before so I am worried its the tv, but the picture is so much better than my old tv it might just be a lot more noticeable.
post #1050 of 3924
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Originally Posted by powrwrap View Post

I watch a lot of baseball and I haven't noticed it.

Do you notice "double balls" when watching baseball? I notice it when the camera is tracking a dropping flyball or the infielders are throwing the ball around. I presume it's an artifact of the motion compensation.
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