or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › LCD Flat Panel Displays › Official LG XXLM7600 Owners Thread...
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Official LG XXLM7600 Owners Thread... - Page 56

post #1651 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcbydesign View Post

I will be getting my new 7600 in the next week (or so) Can I calibrate this right away? I've read some posts that reference waiting until after 80-100 hours.
Also, any suggestions for brand/type of HDMI cables? I only need a six footer, if that makes a difference. I am not really willing to get a Monster cable at their prices.
Anything else a neophyte to the led tv world needs to know?
Thanks biggrin.gif

If you have time to wait for shipping, just buy a cheap hdmi cable on amazon. It's my understanding that the only difference between different hdmi cables is build quality, and you are not always getting what you pay for. I've been to several stores like walmart, radio shack, and best buy where they don't even sell cheap cables. This is probably because people are picking up on the fact that it makes no difference with hdmi. Get something on Amazon and you will be set for about $5 bucks (or less).
post #1652 of 3922
Software version 04.20.11 downloaded this morning. No changes seen. It's possible one of the recent updates changed the look of the menu when you change the name of an input.
post #1653 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcbydesign View Post

Also, any suggestions for brand/type of HDMI cables? I only need a six footer, if that makes a difference. I am not really willing to get a Monster cable at their prices.

Thanks biggrin.gif

http://www.buy.com/prod/3-pack-of-super-high-resolution-6-foot-hdmi-m-m-cables-gold-plated/q/loc/108/211044067.html
post #1654 of 3922
In the market for a new tv for under 2k and this seems to be the best one I've reviewed so far.

My main problem is seeing that most of the midlevel LCD's are all about the same as far as picture quality goes. Can anyone offer some advice as I read through this thread?
post #1655 of 3922
No class of TV's are the same for picture quality. Picture quality is certainly not the same in mid level LCD TV's. The only advice is to read the reviews here, take everything into account, look at the professional reviews, then go to the store and check out the models you are interested in.
post #1656 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malachore View Post

In the market for a new tv for under 2k and this seems to be the best one I've reviewed so far.
My main problem is seeing that most of the midlevel LCD's are all about the same as far as picture quality goes. Can anyone offer some advice as I read through this thread?

This was the review that caused me to consider LG TV's. They were not even on my radar until I read this review. Note that they compare it to other brand's TV's:

There is so much to say in favor of this LG. To begin, the picture quality is superb. LG has made sure to take care of the picture essentials before heaping on some of the best advanced features in the industry. The smart TV offerings, like streaming videos, an internet browser, and various apps make up the forefront of the Home menu, where these various features are collected in one helpful interface. The magic remote replaces the old-fashioned, and highly limited, remote control of yore, working intuitively like a computer’s mouse. This new remote allows for quick navigation through the hordes of streaming options and makes typing letters into the keyboard for URLs and other searches quick and realistic.

Then, there’s the award-winning LG Cinema 3D, which blows all other 3D TVs out of the water as far as we’re concerned. The passive 3D images come at viewers in full HD, do not flicker like active 3D, and show so little crosstalk we could hardly believe it. The stunning quality and comfort of the 3D images confirmed all of our testing numbers. This is one 3D display we strongly endorse.


http://www.televisioninfo.com/content/LG-47LM6700-3D-LED-LCD-HDTV-Review.htm


And here is a review of the 7600.

http://www.televisioninfo.com/content/LG-47LM7600-Cinema-3D-Smart-LED-LCD-HDTV.htm
post #1657 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by amamar5 View Post

Has anyone had any issues with controlling the volume on the LM7600? I've had mine for a few months now and recently I sometimes have trouble adjusting the volume. As I press the volume up or down the red LED on the TV will flash, so I know that it's seeing the code, but nothing happens. If I press it 5 or 6 times and then stop and wait, after a few seconds the volume level icon will come up and change by one number and then immediately disappear. The only way to fix it is to power cycle the TV. It doesn't seem to be the remote because I've tried 3 different ones and the TV exhibits the same behavior. I've gotten 2 different firmware update (currently on 4.12.23) and they don't make a difference.

That's a strange problem. What happens if you manually change the volume using the controls on the backside of the set itself? Also, have you played with the volume settings in the Settings Menu, under Sound? There are three levels of volume settings available there.
post #1658 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by powrwrap View Post

This was the review that caused me to consider LG TV's. They were not even on my radar until I read this review. Note that they compare it to other brand's TV's:
There is so much to say in favor of this LG. To begin, the picture quality is superb. LG has made sure to take care of the picture essentials before heaping on some of the best advanced features in the industry. The smart TV offerings, like streaming videos, an internet browser, and various apps make up the forefront of the Home menu, where these various features are collected in one helpful interface. The magic remote replaces the old-fashioned, and highly limited, remote control of yore, working intuitively like a computer’s mouse. This new remote allows for quick navigation through the hordes of streaming options and makes typing letters into the keyboard for URLs and other searches quick and realistic.
Then, there’s the award-winning LG Cinema 3D, which blows all other 3D TVs out of the water as far as we’re concerned. The passive 3D images come at viewers in full HD, do not flicker like active 3D, and show so little crosstalk we could hardly believe it. The stunning quality and comfort of the 3D images confirmed all of our testing numbers. This is one 3D display we strongly endorse.

http://www.televisioninfo.com/content/LG-47LM6700-3D-LED-LCD-HDTV-Review.htm
And here is a review of the 7600.
http://www.televisioninfo.com/content/LG-47LM7600-Cinema-3D-Smart-LED-LCD-HDTV.htm

Thanks for the info.

It just seems like the majority of the love is for the "smart" aspect of it. Not sure how much 3D I'll be watching so 2D performance is my #1 priority. Still stuck between this and the Sony HX850, plan on heading to BB this evening to give them both a look.
post #1659 of 3922
If you don't think you are going to watch a lot of 3d, I would imagine that you can get a panel that does 2d as well as this for a nice price. I also don't care for the smart aspect very much, although I have found that I use DLNA quite a bit to stream media from my pc or online to the tv.
post #1660 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malachore View Post

Thanks for the info.
It just seems like the majority of the love is for the "smart" aspect of it. Not sure how much 3D I'll be watching so 2D performance is my #1 priority. Still stuck between this and the Sony HX850, plan on heading to BB this evening to give them both a look.

I knew I wanted a smart TV. Since it would be the number one multimedia station in my house I wanted it to have the ability to connect to the internet. I wasn't considering 3D either, but once I saw it I figured why not get it? There will be more and more 3D content in the future. Hands down the LG 3d was better and the glasses much, much cheaper. Speaking of the future, who knows where we will be getting video content 5 years from now. It's possible that sports content could go to pay per view via streaming on the internet. Also I expect improvements in connection speeds and bandwidth on the internet.

When I was shopping I figured I would look at Samsung and Sony. (I think the Sony model was HX720?) Even after I fiddled with the picture controls the Samsung's colors looked too garishly vivid and the motion blur was noticeable and the Sony's color looked a little lifeless and drab but motion looked fine. Sony had better blacks IMO. But when I saw the LG and used the magic remote I was sold.
post #1661 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtown017 View Post

i am using amazon's hdmi cable. i just checked and it is hdmi cable 1.4
my setup is rf cable from wall to cable dvr box. hdmi cable from the cable dvr box to the tv.
dark backgrounds show the picture to be "fuzzy" this is aggravating frown.gif

I get this with backgrounds in general, but definitely notice it more in darker backgrounds. Up close shots the PQ is great (after days of playing with the settings provided here on AVS). However, anything distant looks either blurry or like a low quality YouTube video. I have Comcast and a HD DVR box hooked up via coax to the wall and a high speed hdmi cable w/Ethernet from the TV to the box. I just feel that in certain circumstances my parents 5-6 yr old Sony Bravia LCD TV looks better than this one, which is upsetting and frustrating. To be honest, I'm on the verge of returning this tv and trying for a new one, waiting for black Friday, or OLED to come out. I feel for the price we payed for this TV we all shouldn't be having this many problems with the PQ not coming out right.

Just for kicks here's how I have my cable/internet setup:

Outside from the box to a 2 way splitter ( not sure on the mhz rating for this one, just one I had laying around)
My aftermarket modem hooked up to 1 out on the 2 way.
Short coax cable going from 2nd out on 2 way to a 5-2400mhz 4 way splitter
Phone modem that came from Comcast hooked up to 1 out on the 4 way
My TV hooked up to 1 out on the 4 way
My Parents TV hooked up to 1 out on the 4 Way
Our family room TV is hooked up directly to the outside box.
post #1662 of 3922
im starting to think it is the cable providers issue. I think i am losing some quality from it.

however the banding on my tv is definitely the tv's fault.
post #1663 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookie-Monster View Post

Just for kicks here's how I have my cable/internet setup:
Outside from the box to a 2 way splitter ( not sure on the mhz rating for this one, just one I had laying around)
My aftermarket modem hooked up to 1 out on the 2 way.
Short coax cable going from 2nd out on 2 way to a 5-2400mhz 4 way splitter
Phone modem that came from Comcast hooked up to 1 out on the 4 way
My TV hooked up to 1 out on the 4 way
My Parents TV hooked up to 1 out on the 4 Way
Our family room TV is hooked up directly to the outside box.

You are splitting the signal source to your TV's twice before they get a signal. Why don't you remove the 2-way splitter and only use the 4-way?
post #1664 of 3922
I've had my tv for 6 weeks and haven't had any problems, but last night my magic remote started doing weird things. Everything works (up, down, home, etc), but the pointer stays at the side of the screen or at the bottom. I've reformatted and changed the batteries and it still won't go back to normal. Any ideas?? On the bright side I can still use it, but would be nicer to have the pointer too.
post #1665 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayco33 View Post

I've had my tv for 6 weeks and haven't had any problems, but last night my magic remote started doing weird things. Everything works (up, down, home, etc), but the pointer stays at the side of the screen or at the bottom. I've reformatted and changed the batteries and it still won't go back to normal. Any ideas?? On the bright side I can still use it, but would be nicer to have the pointer too.

Can you get into the Settings Menu? Then find Pointer Alignment and fiddle with the setting.

Have you tried rapidly moving the remote left/right to 'loosen' the pointer?

If all else fails call Tech Support. Number is on the Info/Help Tab in the Settings Menu
post #1666 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malachore View Post

Thanks for the info.
It just seems like the majority of the love is for the "smart" aspect of it. Not sure how much 3D I'll be watching so 2D performance is my #1 priority. Still stuck between this and the Sony HX850, plan on heading to BB this evening to give them both a look.
You should choose a tv on pic quality only...In all competent review site HX850 is much higher rated than the LM7600 model..there is practically no comparison between these two.
post #1667 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by lake1988 View Post

You should choose a tv on pic quality only...In all competent review site HX850 is much higher rated than the LM7600 model..there is practically no comparison between these two.

Please post some links to competent reviews showing the Sony beats the LG.
post #1668 of 3922
Please check CNET reviews of both tvs...and if you think LM7600 pic quality is superior than HX850 then there is no point of arguing.

In what hi-fi review of Lg http://www.whathifi.com/review/lg-55lm760t they have clearly mentioned black are not good..where for sony http://www.whathifi.com/review/sony-kdl-55hx853 blacks are superb.
In home theater magazine review http://www.hometheater.com/content/sony-kdl-55hx850-3d-lcd-hdtv HX850 is one of very few HDTV to get full rating for 2D performance.
Edited by lake1988 - 10/20/12 at 11:43pm
post #1669 of 3922
Got my TV a few days ago and still i am not able to get proper 3D setting.
How to adjust properly: 3D depth & 3D viewpoint.... PLaying with settings are not helping and i am getting picture tht either has less effect OR effect with out of focus areas in all movies OR making me dizzy.

Secondly, i get my cable via Set-top-box and TV is producing images at 1080P @ 50HZ, Also if i use my LG blu ray player to play my DVD's it uses 1080P @ 50hz and hence in both cases i am getting slight jerks. I believe it should display at 60HZ. -- So does your TV produces 1080P @ 50hz/60hz ?

Also, my old Sony upscaling DVD player upscales my DVD and outputs at 1080i@60hz and the video plays smooth and clearly, and my latest BD player cant !!

PS: I am in Asia if tht matters
Edited by Craige - 10/22/12 at 6:42am
post #1670 of 3922
The TV is displaying what it is getting. Is your supposed 50htz from a device meant for the U.S and is it via HDMI?

Edit - now that you added you are in Asia, (as I thought with my response above) I don't know the answer to your question, I have never seen a picture of 1080P/50
Edited by tampa8 - 10/22/12 at 11:10am
post #1671 of 3922
Hello I need help

I have LG 47LM7600 but I do not have universal search option
I know it should be
Maybe someone knows how to fix it?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSVqqJkDyHY
post #1672 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by lake1988 View Post

Please check CNET reviews of both tvs...and if you think LM7600 pic quality is superior than HX850 then there is no point of arguing.
In what hi-fi review of Lg http://www.whathifi.com/review/lg-55lm760t they have clearly mentioned black are not good..where for sony http://www.whathifi.com/review/sony-kdl-55hx853 blacks are superb.
In home theater magazine review http://www.hometheater.com/content/sony-kdl-55hx850-3d-lcd-hdtv HX850 is one of very few HDTV to get full rating for 2D performance.

I never said that the LG's PQ was superior to the Sony, but I'll let the experts speak for me. You said there was "practically no comparison between the two". So if the two TV's were side-by-side, tweaked to optimum PQ, and fed the same signal are you saying the LG would look so horrendously bad that 95% of people would choose the Sony? Because that is a practical test. If you look at test results and reviews I don't think you can say that there is "practically no comparison between the two". The only area where Sony really outguns the LG is in contrast levels. (Note that Sony's price is about $800 to $1,000 more than the LG.)

TelevisionInfo.com

LG 55LM7600 Overall 8.4 out of 10 (contrast 8.3,color and grey scale 7.8, color gamut 7.1, Screen uniformity 9.3, motion performance 8.7, viewing angle 6.6)
Sony HX850 Overall 7.9 out of 10 (contrast 9.6, color and grey scale 7.4, color gamut 6.6, Screen uniformity 8.0, motion performance 7.0, viewing angle 2.5)

http://www.televisioninfo.com/content/LG-47LM7600-Cinema-3D-Smart-LED-LCD-HDTV.htm

http://www.televisioninfo.com/content/Sony-Bravia-KDL-55HX850-3D-LED-HDTV-Review.htm


Flatpanelshd.com

Sony HX850
Color gradation is fairly good but not fantastic. We noticed some problems in the dark and semi-dark areas and even though Sony has managed to improve the dark tone reproduction in the last few years, Sony still has some running to do before they catch up with the best plasma TVs available today. Color performance is by no means bad and on par with the typical LED model today but we still hope to see further improvements in this area in the future. SD picture quality is still important ...We have no real complaints in this area and Sony manages to reproduce SD with a fairly high level of detailing and a natural, not-to-soft-not-to-digitalized look.

HD picture quality is beautiful and HX850 reproduced HD pictures with a high level of detailing. HX850 had some problems with the darkest colors at times but nothing worrying, and even though motion results in a reduction of detailing, pictures still look great for the most part.

Shadow detailing is fair after calibration. Before calibration Sony HX850 crushed most details in the dark areas of movie scenes but after calibration only the 2-3 grey tones closest to black were hard to distinguish. This is very common on LCD-TVs.

Sony HX850 is a great performer in many areas when it comes to 2D picture quality. It has very decent SD picture quality and HD pictures look great. We noticed some problems with overdrive trailing that might affect performance for gamers, though. Out-of-box performance was not very good but the Cinema mode provided us with relatively good color reproduction. Our sample had no real clouding problems, either. However, the reflective front may still cause some reflection problems in a typical living room, and we are still not pleased with Sony’s 3D implementation that makes 3D effects vanish if you tilt your head only a few degrees to either side. When it comes to 2D picture quality, HX850 shows a lot of muscle for a LED model. It certainly compares to many LED models today, and I think HX850 is a great TV - one of Sony’s best edge LED based TVs to date – but the value-for-money ratio is not as competitive as on some of Sony’s closest rivals.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1336720019#7


LG LM7600
SD picture quality was actually quite good on LG’s new line-up. HD picture quality looks great, too. Detailing is very high and the color reproduction looked great after calibration. Both HD movies and games looked impressive, and after calibration the TV also reproduced details in the dark areas of images.

LM7600 is a fast LCD-TV and even in our stress tests it exhibited a low level of blurring on fast motion. It has no problems with overdrive trailing (halos around moving objects) either, which I am sure gamers will appreciate. It is not perfect but compared to the LCD competition it is a great performer.

Shadow detailing was not very good with the standard settings but we managed to improve it to a fairly good level after calibration. Only the 2-3 darkest shades of grey were impossible to distinguish from black. Most dark movies and games are reproduced with a high level of detailing.

Picture quality is great. LG has made a number of improvements and addressed most of the issues we had with previous years’ models. LM7600 offers fast response time, great SD and HD picture quality, and very pleasant 3D picture quality based on the cheap polarized 3D glasses. LM7600 does not offer as deep blacks as Samsung’s LED models but we are sure that only the most discerning users will notice. LM7600 also excelled in our movie and gaming test scenes and is one of the best edge led TVs we have seen.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1333359799#7
Edited by powrwrap - 10/21/12 at 6:10pm
post #1673 of 3922
Please don't put up television info review as a reference...they rate HX850 lower cause it wasn't smart enough..also it rates panasonic WT50 to 8.4...where in CNET the most reputed review site gave very lower rating to WT50...also in CNET HX850 is rated higher than LG LM7600 model...
All reputed site gave HX850 higher rating and television info is the one thinks differently...that site measures black level of a tv by making backlight setting to max..in short television info have no credibility to post review.
Only CNET posts fair & unbiased reviews of tv from various companies.
post #1674 of 3922
just updated my Firmware, from 04.12.23 to 04.20.11.
post #1675 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by lake1988 View Post

Please don't put up television info review as a reference...they rate HX850 lower cause it wasn't smart enough..

I posted the picture quality numbers from Television Info which shows the LG beat the Sony in every category except contrast. I didn't post the scores for the 'smart' features.
Quote:
where in CNET the most reputed review site gave very lower rating to WT50...also in CNET HX850 is rated higher than LG LM7600 model...
All reputed site gave HX850 higher rating and television info is the one thinks differently...that site measures black level of a tv by making backlight setting to max..in short television info have no credibility to post review.
Only CNET posts fair & unbiased reviews of tv from various companies.

I've been reading CNET for years and I wouldn't call CNET fair and unbiased. Explain why CNET rated the LG 6700 a 2.5 and the LG 7600 a 3.5? According to CNET the 6700 has a glossy screen and the 7600 has a semi-matte screen. The 6700 has "disappointing picture quality" whereas the 7600 has picture quality that mostly "lives up to its stunning design and cutting-edge features." (They have the same LCD panel.) In fact, CNET's review of the 7600 says it has a semi-matte screen and later it says it has a glossy screen. Which is it? As to CNET's comparison of the HX850 vs. the 7600: "the 7600 was not quite the match of the Sony HX850", hardly "practically no comparison between the two" as you asserted.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-55lm6700/4505-6482_7-35118097.html

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-47lm7600/4505-6482_7-35117974.html

You say "all reputed review sites gave HX850 higher rating" but you said nothing of my other links to flatpanelshd.com. You also have not listed any other sites besides CNET, whathifi, and hometheater.com.
post #1676 of 3922
It's totally people's own opinion to judge which review site is good according to their view but knowledgeable videophiles consider CNET review to be best and unbiased...if you think television info review is true then there is simply no point in arguing about that..but as per CNET HX850 is the best LCD of year 2012.
post #1677 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by lake1988 View Post

It's totally people's own opinion to judge which review site is good according to their view but knowledgeable videophiles consider CNET review to be best and unbiased...if you think television info review is true then there is simply no point in arguing about that..but as per CNET HX850 is the best LCD of year 2012.

So if you don't like how a review turns out, as in TelevisionInfo, you just ignore it? You said nothing about the inconsistencies I listed with CNET's reviews as to 6700 vs. 7600 (same panel, wildly differing opinion of the PQ's.) You said nothing about flatpanelshd.com reviews which said the LG is "one of the best edge LED's we've seen" and said the Sony "compares to many LED models today."
post #1678 of 3922
CNET gives highest review to plasma and plasma only..as per them Sharp elite model is still the best led tv...but HX850 is the best led tv for 2012...It's not my opinion..experts' opinion from CNET...

And about television info they measure blacks by turning on backlight to max..there reviews are so flawed...
post #1679 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by lake1988 View Post

It's not my opinion..experts' opinion from CNET...

How "expert" can they be if they:

1.) Say the LG 6700 doesn't have a good picture but say the LG 7600 has an excellent picture when both TV's have the same panel? Then they say "they don't know why they say this".

2. Call the panel on the 7600 a semi-matte panel and later in the same article call it a glossy panel.


Quote:
And about television info they measure blacks by turning on backlight to max..there reviews are so flawed...

If they consistently use this technique for all LED TV's why is the methodology flawed?
post #1680 of 3922
About LM7600 they said very good pic quality..not excellent..

They compared HX850 with Panasonic ST50 and LG's flagship LM9600..and HX850 was able to match ST50's pic quality..LM9600 pic quality was sub-par..

How do you know about the panel info..there are various type of IPS panel LG manufactures..

Television info uses same methodology to give consistently flawed review..that's why.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: LCD Flat Panel Displays
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › LCD Flat Panel Displays › Official LG XXLM7600 Owners Thread...