Official LG XXLM7600 Owners Thread... - Page 74

Some apps don't have a place to "Sign out." If you can't use the back button to exit hit the home button.

Has anyone tried to access the service menu via the ios lg remote app?

I could not stand the light bleed + how sluggish the LM7600 operates when bringing up apps or the home screen etc (2 seconds after pressing the buttons on the remote).

So I went out and got the 55LM8600. It's in the car, just got, didn't feel like setting it up tonight. Will report back. Really hope I got lucky....

For those of you torn between the 7600 and 8600, the dual-core and the faster user experience alone are worth the price difference, which by now has shrunk to about $100-150.

I don't really care about the apps that much, thats why i have a PC and gaming consoles... does the light bleed issue not exist on the 8600 though?

It prob. does. I just hope the set I got doesn't exhibit it or less than my 7600.

The dual-core processor muscle is obvious even when bringing up the Input List via the Home button (2 steps).
And since Netflix for instance is built-in, I just like to use on the TV though I have it on the Apple TV, PS3 etc. etc.

Some have reported that the picture quality also benefits from the faster dual-core. We will see when I set it up tomorrow.

I have the 8600. It does suffer from the light bleed. However, I have mine adjusted to the point it is almost never seen.

Just curious I heard in cnet and other places that the 7600 is really just a 120hz panel with some backlight effect that simulates it to 240hz? Just like how the 6700 is a 60hz?

Same here.

I'm going to assume you read it there, rather than heard it there?

I believe there are only two labels that make what might be considered a true 240HZ TV, Sony and some Samsung units. All the others use a 120Hz screen and a method using backlighting movement to achieve the effect of 240HZ.

But none of that matters at all. You most likely can not see the difference between a 120HZ screen or a 240HZ screen. Just because they make it and talk about how great it is, doesn't mean it is. It's called marketing. The 60HZ debate is really over not having anything for motion control, only judder on the 6700. If it had that no one would be complaining.

So fellas, I just finished setting-up the 8600. Sep 2012 production date, made in Mexico.

Took down the 7600 and set up the 8600 at the same spot with the exact same LM7600 image settings (Cnet forums post settings here).

I can't see a difference in PQ between 7600 and 8600 but I should mention I am not competent with a screen qualities like an audiophile would be with sound.


Unfortunately, my 8600 set has some light bleed in the top right corner and a very small amount in two spots along the right side of the screen.

It's less than the 7600 overall and probably would personally consider at "an acceptable level".
I really wanted the perfect screen some luck forums members showed off though.

I tried to capture it with my celphone camera but at this point a longer exposure on tripod would be required to see it like the human eye sees it.
The 3rd shot below show where the problem is.

This while playing a video from youtube showing a black screen to test light bleeding.


This with the standby screen from the Verizon FiOS box when it's off:


And this is after hitting the home button when in the Netflix app. The screen is black, the TV cranks up the levels before returning to the Home screen.




Now I am trying to determine whether I should exchange the 8600 for another set or not. sigh...
This is such a hassle but I do want to drive it home to LG so they understand they have to improve.
Exchanges/ returns = $ = leads LG to pay attention.
Beyond the edge lighting technique used on LED screens nowadays, the problem is probably a mix QC and faulty packaging design on LG's part.

The TV is just not protected enough. I can imagine how the panel would get roughed-up during a 1,000 possible occasions from factory to the customer's living room even with the upmost care from anyone handling it from origination to destination, which we know is not realistic.
I don't have any experience with the packaging from other OEMs so I cannot compare. Someone please chime in.


Also, I had complained in prior posts about the top corners not feeling firm to the touch or slight pressure on the my 7600.
The 8600 is solid in the right but has the same problem in the left corner.
Though in this case, while the small amount of play in the top left corner is there, it doesn't correlate to light bleed since there is none. It is in the right top corner where it's firm to pressure.

I have decided get rid of the 7600.
Aside for the light bleed issue on my 7600 set, the differences in features (see below), the dual-core (the 7600 is really too sluggish to operate for my taste) easily justify the price difference.




Differences between the 55LM7600 and 55LM8600 (hope this wording gets picked up by Google and helps someone looking for an answer).

** The 8600 has a faster dual-core processor


** The Magic Remote for the 8600 has a mic which is used *only for now* for the search function of the TV so you don't have to type the query.
Wasted potential because it could have been used to command the TV as well.




** The TV wrapping trim (left, top and right flanks) is black instead of silver. The bottom chin is silver instead of black on the 7600. I would have like black all around... oh, well.




I discovered a few more differences between the two models which I had not seen mentioned anywhere in the last few months I researched both:

** The LG logo lights up and this can be turned off (mine turns off when I select off and lights back up when I exit the settings = bug?) or its intensity adjusted in the settings. The ability to turn off the standby red LED from the settings is not there on the 8600.




** I have the LG ANVC400 USB camera which I got to use Skype on the TV.
I had read that gesture controls were avail but could find no info about it anywhere on the web or the 7600 itself.
On the 8600 it is supported, though I haven't managed to get it to work.
Look under Settings > Support > User Guide > Advanced Function > To use the Motion Recognition function and under Settings > Option > Camera Setting Help and below it Motion Recognition (on/ off).





** the iPad/ iPhone/ Android LG Remote app (for 2012 models) allows live streaming from the TV to the mobile device on 8600 to use it as a mini screen. I could not get this to work on the 8600. All other features identical otherwise in the App.

Screenshots from the TV used in this post were taken with the app and then transfered via Bluetooth to my laptop. Pretty cool.





Cool features common to the 8600 and the 7600:

Support for wired and wireless mice and some wireless Keyboard via USB (a couple of models from each: Logitech, Microsoft and LG itself).
Tested with a wireless USB Logitech and it works. I love it!
I take the mouse to the top edge, it shows a full horizontal band with a remote image/ icon on the right, clicking it then brings up the full bottom horizontal bar with the inputs and settings icons on the left and which controls my Verizon FiOS Motorola set-top box.
It can replace the remote. I hate the stiff clicking sound from the central button on the Magic Mouse.



I have considered the 60ES7100 at one point and then decided against it:

Love the LG design
I really enjoy having 4 HDMI ports as opposed to just 3 on Samsung.
3 USB ports are also very useful.
Love the passive 3D tech on LG as opposed to the active tech on Samsung.
Edited by merlo - 12/13/12 at 6:00pm

Version 04.31.20 downloaded tonight. I see no changes, though it seems like menu commands are executed faster.

Hitting the back button does not log one out of Netflix. I presume Cinderella wants to use a different account with which to log into the service.

Tried and via the Android version as well (for 2012 models: "LG Remote") and it didn't work for me.

"I take the mouse to the top edge, it shows a full horizontal band with a remote image/ icon on the right, clicking it then brings up the full bottom horizontal bar with the inputs and settings icons on the left and which controls my Verizon FiOS Motorola set-top box. It can replace the remote. I hate the stiff clicking sound from central button on the Magic Mouse."

The 7600 does exactly this.

Is being able to transmit video to your cell phone/tablet exclusive to the 8600/9600 models?

Everything else you listed i can live without, but i'm curious about the above

I believe it is.

Link the app in the Google Play market.

Notes mention:

Description
[Caution]
This application is compatible only with LG Smart TVs which are released in 2012. Customers who own LG Smart TVs released in 2011 (not listed in supported models) should get "LG TV Remote 2011".
"LG TV Remote" is a Wi-Fi remote controller which can control Network-enabled LG Smart TVs released in 2012.
When a smartphone and LG TV are connected via same router, LG TV may be controlled conveniently with the smartphone after a simple pairing process.
The 2nd TV will not be available for certain channels due to provision of contents under copy protection regulations.
[Supported Models]
LM9600, LM9500, LM9400, LM8600
LMG860, LM7610, LM7600, LM6710
LM6700, LM6690, LM6610, LM6600
LM6450, LM6400, LM6300, LMG620
LM6250, LM6200, LM6100, LM5900
LS5800, LS5750, LS5700 Series @TV 2012
PM9700, PM6900, PM6700, PM4700
[Main Features]
- MiniTV : Continuously watching live channels. (Only support for LM9600, LM9500, LM9400, and LM8600)
- Hot key for volume/channel control, input list and channel list ...
- MiniHome : Access to Premium CP and MyApps directly .
- Touch Pad : Control pointer(like magic remote) using touch pad.
- SmartText : Easy text input via smartphone.



Anyone knows what the "2nd TV" feature is? I remember seeing it in the product brochures for the 7600 and 8600.



I didn't know. I hadn't tested the wireless mouse on the 7600 and I don't remember ever seeing it mentioned. It's such a nice feature!

Sorry, but I'm trying to accomplish the same thing--use the input button on my Tivo remote to cycle between LG XXLM7600 inputs without using the LG magic remote. Like you I started by programing the Tivo remote which allows the input screen to come up; however, like you, I couldn't select the desired input once I cycled to it.

It sounds like you were able to get it to work by reverting the magic remote to IR. I'm fine unpairing the magic remote, but what did you send to your learning Tivo remote? I have a Tivo Glo remote, which is one of the learning remotes, but what key sequence did you send from the unpaired magic remote to the Tivo learning remote.

Any help is appreciated. I looked around the forum and the web, but seemed to have missed the solution.

Thanks.

And many/most of the other things he mentioned. I did mention the mouse and keyboard back when it was added to the 7600. The playback to the smartphone it can not do. I guess it's a nice feature, not one I would ever use. (I have a Slingbox for that)

uh-ho - time to edit my post.

Could someone please tell me how to custom-label the HDMI ports in the Input List/ menu?

The Verizon FiOS automatically called itself that for HDMI3.

I would like to name my HDMI1 "Others", HDMI2 "Apple TV" and my HDMI4 "PS3" instead of picking from the generic icons/ names avail.

Is it possible?





Edited by merlo - 12/13/12 at 5:56am

Amazon has the 7600 back in stock. (Sold directly from them)

Aww man, still no Amazon VOD for me. Tampa8, I also have never received the change from Expert Control to ISF Control or the extra settings below Color Managment System. Your 7600 is special.

Hey guys, been looking at this TV as a replacement to a GT50 that I'm likely returning (issue with dimness/low contrast in some scenes due to ABL), and was wondering - how does the LM7600 handle glare as compared to the GT50/ST50. I'm not in an overly bright room, but I watch TV with the lights on, and reflection wise, the GT50 handled it pretty well.

Right now, debating between this and the 55HX850, so thanks for any help.

I don't have the engineering mode/ menu turned on.

So I am on Software 04.20.18 with no other updates found when checking.

LG's web site: 04.02.84 and 04.12.27.

My software version is more recent, correct? And why does the web site lists those two builds? Why not only list the most recent, unless some people may want to downgrade?

Lol... The pics caloyzki posted are what I have. I have to think the Amazon app is coming to everyone..... It does work well.

Also, software version 04.31.21 downloaded today. I do not see any changes.

Micro Center has the 55LM8600 SKU 328773 for $1,249 + 3.5% sales tax.

And there is Mail In Rebate for $75.

In store. The store in Paterson, NJ has 15+ left and the one in Westchester, NY has 5+ left.

Link? I'll go in and trade in the 7600 for the 8600

So is everyone labeling the input as "PC" or "Game" when they use this TV? I'm gonna be receiving my set early next week and i'm a hardcore gamer... very excited :P

I've read that Plasmas half way less lag than LCD (like 15ms Plasma vs 30ms LCD), but if we relabel the source it reduces the 30ms to 0ms or at least kinda close? Are there any official tests that can be done to verify this?

Doesn't show on their web site. Avail in store.