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post #2431 of 3922
Hi, I'm having an odd issue where my 47LM7600 forgets that it's connected to external speakers.

I'm using the optical audio output, with a cable to a Panasonic SC-BTT190 system's receiver.

When I first set it up, I needed to go into the inputs menu on the TV and click through to external speaker. Everything worked fine, with audio coming out through the Panasonic speakers.

However, it seems that whenever the TV is shut down, it forgets that it's connected to external speakers (despite the input setting remaining on external speakers). So to fix it I have to go and cycle through speaker options again, clicking on built-in speakers and back to external speakers. Every time I turn on the TV!

Is there some additional setting I'm missing? Or is this a known bug?

Thank you.
post #2432 of 3922
hi guys,
what is "Live Plus" in the new firmware?
post #2433 of 3922
Just got back from my 2 week vacation... was hoping the corners weren't bleeding as badly as i remembered haha

The whole upper left corner almost a quarter of the panel is much lighter colored than the rest when it is a dark screen... some bleeding around the edges in other areas but those don't bother me as much.

I got this TV from Dell, if i were to attempt to trade it in for another model to get a better panel would it be overly difficult considering where i bought it? Or would i be going directly through LG via the 1yr warranty?

I've been glancing at the web a bit for CES 2013 info but everything i see is for new 4K TVs... where are all the new regular 1080 models for 2013!? Not looking to spend 10k on a TV
post #2434 of 3922
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Originally Posted by f1shtaco View Post

hi guys,
what is "Live Plus" in the new firmware?
Answered on the very same page you posted on. (And in previous pages)
post #2435 of 3922
Hi everyone. FIrst of all thanks for this thread and everyone's help in it. I've read through most of it and I really learned a lot.

I finally got my 55lm7600 yesterday and I'm thoroughly impressed. I think it looks great, although I haven't found any 3d content that has made me think "wow" yet.

I have 2 questions to start off.

1. I'm just using the magic remote at the moment. Is it worth my while to pay the $$ to get a programmable remote to access the service/expert menus? I know it's necessary for some sound options but I am using a seperate sound system and have no need for that.

2. My panel is not too bad in terms of the bright "hot spots" in the corners, but along the top edge I'm getting some pretty bad light bleedthrough from the edges. Almost as if the housing is not screwed down correctly and the light gets through a crack.

I know some people have had succeess getting rid of those hotspots through calibration but is there any way to get rid of the edge bleeding through? It's not so bad but I'd like to fix it.
post #2436 of 3922
Jeez. For a $1500 TV, it's really a shame that the 55LM7600 has such bleed issues given all that it does correctly. It's even physically designed beautifully too. But for people to see stuff like this????
post #2437 of 3922
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Jeez. For a $1500 TV, it's really a shame that the 55LM7600 has such bleed issues given all that it does correctly. It's even physically designed beautifully too. But for people to see stuff like this????

Tell me about it. For the price I paid I'm pretty well set on having a product I'm happy with. The problem is that A) I don't have a car that can fit a computer monitor let alone a 55" monster like this in it so I have to wait for delivery times back and forth and B) I live in a an apartment so I would have to take more days off work to be sure I'm home at the time they deliver it.

I feel like I got one of those bad traffic tickets that is too low to be worth fighting and too high to just slough off. I'm in a bind.
post #2438 of 3922
For anyone that's interested, here's a feature table for the new 2013 LG TVs

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ampx82Q1aPMEdFp4M1kzc01ld3QzSmFfamNiRDdqamc&output=html
post #2439 of 3922
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Originally Posted by splattered View Post

For anyone that's interested, here's a feature table for the new 2013 LG TVs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ampx82Q1aPMEdFp4M1kzc01ld3QzSmFfamNiRDdqamc&output=html
So there's no full LED panel TV in the lineup this year?
post #2440 of 3922
I don't believe so... but after reading about the new TVs at this year's CES i do wish i had waited for the new 7 series 55" haha
post #2441 of 3922
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Originally Posted by splattered View Post

For anyone that's interested, here's a feature table for the new 2013 LG TVs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ampx82Q1aPMEdFp4M1kzc01ld3QzSmFfamNiRDdqamc&output=html

That doesn't make sense. I thought they were supposed to be offering a number of Google TV's this year, not 2.

In any case it looks like (except for improvements),

*Roughly*...
LA7400 = today's LM7600 + 60" option
LA8600 = today's LM7600(if same CPU) or LM8600(if enhanced CPU) + 60", no 47", and built-in camera.

.....trying to get the perspective right.....
post #2442 of 3922
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Originally Posted by Me View Post

Jeez. For a $1500 TV, it's really a shame that the 55LM7600 has such bleed issues given all that it does correctly. It's even physically designed beautifully too. But for people to see stuff like this????

@tampa8, y'know, I'm beginning to wonder if that dimly lit 55LM7600 I saw at Best Buy wasn't set that way by the staff to squash any excessive flashlighting.
post #2443 of 3922
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

That doesn't make sense. I thought they were supposed to be offering a number of Google TV's this year, not 2.
In any case it looks like (except for improvements),
*Roughly*...
LA7400 = today's LM7600 + 60" option
LA8600 = today's LM7600(if same CPU) or LM8600(if enhanced CPU) + 60", no 47", and built-in camera.
.....trying to get the perspective right.....

From what i've read the LA8600 is their flagship 1080p model this year so its comparative to the LM9600 of 2012 but with a built in skype camera i guess?? This kind of confuses me because it appears that the upper 1080p models all have the same panel with local dimming and a dual core processor? Will probably have to wait till closer to release to get more concrete specs.

This years 9600 is reserved for the new 4k resolution beast.

I also read somewhere that the new 9600 4k showed no flashlighting or bleeding problems, i'm interested to see how the rest of the upper tier fairs this year with bleeding/lighting. If they do away with it completely somehow this year i may need to get tough and figure out how to get my LM7600 with a LA7400 haha
post #2444 of 3922
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Originally Posted by CorrieD View Post

2. My panel is not too bad in terms of the bright "hot spots" in the corners, but along the top edge I'm getting some pretty bad light bleedthrough from the edges. Almost as if the housing is not screwed down correctly and the light gets through a crack.
I know some people have had success getting rid of those hot spots through calibration but is there any way to get rid of the edge bleeding through? It's not so bad but I'd like to fix it.

I read someone had success reducing/ridding the bleeding/flashlighting by lightly unscrewing (only a little) the panel screws around the outside edges back of the TV. I just started getting a bit of flashlighting myself, but haven;t tried this yet. I plan to try it soon. I do know that any LCD LED panel can have this lighting effect when pressure is applied to the surface. So the tightness of the screws certainly could conceivably be contributing to the effect. I wouldn't try tightening them, since that would apply more pressure and probly cause more edge flashlight effect.
post #2445 of 3922
I read that as well and was going to try fiddling around a bit tonight to see what happened.

My confusion regarding this though is which screws they touched. Are they talking about the screws that hold the whole housing together and can be seen by the naked eye when look at the back of the tv? Or did they mean removing the plastic backing and then fiddling with the screws that hold the actual panel?

If it's just the first that would be nice but I can't see it having much impact on the panel. I'll give it a go though.
post #2446 of 3922
I was thinking it was just the ones on the outside also. But if it is the inner ones, taking off the back housing isn't a huge deal. Just need to take precautions for electrostatic discharge if you plan on getting close to any of the electrical component boards. I would try to be safe about it either way. Just have something to ground yourself before touching anything inside and if you have a grounding clip, clip it to something metal inside the TV and the same grounding. If you're not sure what your doing, just stay away from it, or have a savvy friend assist. If you know what you're doing, forgive me for the electronics 101 lecture.
post #2447 of 3922
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Originally Posted by SeekerOne View Post

I was thinking it was just the ones on the outside also. But if it is the inner ones, taking off the back housing isn't a huge deal. Just need to take precautions for electrostatic discharge if you plan on getting close to any of the electrical component boards. I would try to be safe about it either way. Just have something to ground yourself before touching anything inside and if you have a grounding clip, clip it to something metal inside the TV and the same grounding. If you're not sure what your doing, just stay away from it, or have a savvy friend assist. If you know what you're doing, forgive me for the electronics 101 lecture.

No problem, better safe than sorry. Luckily I am a bit of a tech nerd and buld all my own PC's etc so I've got it all covered!

But that's reassuring that the screws are available just inside the housing and not any deeper. I'll see how the outer screws affect it and then decide if I want to open it up.
post #2448 of 3922
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Originally Posted by SeekerOne View Post

I read someone had success reducing/ridding the bleeding/flashlighting by lightly unscrewing (only a little) the panel screws around the outside edges back of the TV. I just started getting a bit of flashlighting myself, but haven;t tried this yet. I plan to try it soon. I do know that any LCD LED panel can have this lighting effect when pressure is applied to the surface. So the tightness of the screws certainly could conceivably be contributing to the effect. I wouldn't try tightening them, since that would apply more pressure and probly cause more edge flashlight effect.

This is likely mere clinical paranoia, but you don't want your warranty voided, so double check that there isn't a drop of black paint or some similar marker on the screws to indicate tampering. Beats me about this tv, but you've probably seen this on other devices that the manufacturer really really doesn't want you opening up. Sometimes there's a sploosh of white paint to show a screw has been tightened appropriately at the factory (to keep track of it), and other times there's an inconspicuous filling of the square recess/triangle recess/philips or torx indents with black to make it obvious when someone mucked with it.
post #2449 of 3922
Anyone know definitively if the ARC channel on HDMI 1 is lossless/supports full DTS? Does that even matter with a soundbar (Sony HT-CT150). I've read mixed comments. It's clear that the optical output loses DTS without a service tweak, but what about the ARC over HDMI? My TV and soundbar both support ARC.
post #2450 of 3922
I think you nailed it with your second (and rhetorical) question. Doubtful you'd notice the difference with the soundbar.
post #2451 of 3922
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

@tampa8, y'know, I'm beginning to wonder if that dimly lit 55LM7600 I saw at Best Buy wasn't set that way by the staff to squash any excessive flashlighting.

Can't say I disagree.
post #2452 of 3922
......received my lm7600 today.
I was worried about ordering one online and getting it delivered but it made it here in fine shape.
I was surprised at how thin the bezel actually is, the web pics on futureshop's website dont do it any justice, its one sexy TV!... full marks there.
First thing i did was open the box and checked the build date, November, phew!!
Next thing after seeing how shiny and new it looked, my OCD kicked in and before i turned it on i cleaned my entire place so everything shines biggrin.gif
Finally i get it mounted and everything organized and turn it on and inspect it for any obvious signs of bleed or flash-lighting....to my amazement, there is none at all, the picture seems near perfect, aside from the crappy out of the box picture settings..............its awesome!
I couldnt resist so straight away i popped on a 3d blu ray of yogi bear.... the 3D is just great on this TV!
After the quick 3D preview... i adjusted the basic settings for picture quality according to the Cnet guide, but only found the basics, no Expert control menu or White Balance submenu at least that i saw in the display menu...
...so i did a software check and now its updating to 4.31.30...update in progress, taking quite awhile i might add.
...well thats as far as ive gotten with it so far, just thought id give a little feedback while im waiting on the update and can further critique it.....i have the Disney WOW dvd so maybe i will try that tomorrow and see how it does.

The deal I got added for free the LG 3D Blu Ray player, an LG Surround sound system with a sub woofer and 3 3D movies.....having no sound system or 3d blu ray, it made this an excellent choice for me personally....but its all about the TV and all in all so far im very impressed!!
post #2453 of 3922
Be sure you find those settings and follow the Cnet settings exactly. Settings are dependent on each other leaving some out will degrade how good the picture looks.
post #2454 of 3922
Quote:
Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

Be sure you find those settings and follow the Cnet settings exactly. Settings are dependent on each other leaving some out will degrade how good the picture looks.

Tampa8, can you post the link to cnets settings?
post #2455 of 3922
I posted them a few pages back:

Here is the link the Cnet settings for the 47LM7600: http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-573198/lg-47lm7600-picture-settings/?tag=contentBody;threadListing


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Originally Posted by rer420 View Post

......received my lm7600 today.
I was worried about ordering one online and getting it delivered but it made it here in fine shape.
I was surprised at how thin the bezel actually is, the web pics on futureshop's website dont do it any justice, its one sexy TV!... full marks there.
First thing i did was open the box and checked the build date, November, phew!!
Next thing after seeing how shiny and new it looked, my OCD kicked in and before i turned it on i cleaned my entire place so everything shines biggrin.gif
Finally i get it mounted and everything organized and turn it on and inspect it for any obvious signs of bleed or flash-lighting....to my amazement, there is none at all, the picture seems near perfect, aside from the crappy out of the box picture settings..............its awesome!
I couldnt resist so straight away i popped on a 3d blu ray of yogi bear.... the 3D is just great on this TV!
After the quick 3D preview... i adjusted the basic settings for picture quality according to the Cnet guide, but only found the basics, no Expert control menu or White Balance submenu at least that i saw in the display menu...
...so i did a software check and now its updating to 4.31.30...update in progress, taking quite awhile i might add.
...well thats as far as ive gotten with it so far, just thought id give a little feedback while im waiting on the update and can further critique it.....i have the Disney WOW dvd so maybe i will try that tomorrow and see how it does.
The deal I got added for free the LG 3D Blu Ray player, an LG Surround sound system with a sub woofer and 3 3D movies.....having no sound system or 3d blu ray, it made this an excellent choice for me personally....but its all about the TV and all in all so far im very impressed!!


Congrats!!!! I am jealous!

Could you tell us how much you paid in total, where and which retailer?
post #2456 of 3922
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

I would try Clear Plus which enables backlight scanning and local dimming simultaneously it will give you better motion performance without out adding motion artifacts such overdrive trailing. What you are seeing is the post processing causing your set to (ghost or ghosting) , what is known as color/overdrive trailing now.

I try this and nothing still have the blur.. any other suggestion please???
post #2457 of 3922
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Originally Posted by merlo View Post

I posted them a few pages back:
Here is the link the Cnet settings for the 47LM7600: http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-573198/lg-47lm7600-picture-settings/?tag=contentBody;threadListing
Congrats!!!! I am jealous!
Could you tell us how much you paid in total, where and which retailer?

I got the same deal. It was from Futureshop.ca

It was listed as 1799 but I got it on New Year's day for 1399 with the free LG 5.1 surround sound and 3d blu ray player. I sold it for $250 since I alreayd have a PS3 and a surround sound setup.

Lucky rer420 got one with no bleeding though. Congrats to that!
post #2458 of 3922
Mine also had ZERO bleeding when I first turned it on. Two weeks later, after completing the entire cnet settings, I did notice some light bleeding around the edges. Not sure if it was the settings or just coincidence, but I suspect there are several factors that play into the bleeding and flashlight effect. I know I was playing with the local dimming and edge correction (is that what it's called?) features when I was doing the cnet settings, so I wonder if those may have contributed to it. These might impact the brightness of the pixels when "idle", such as the screen saver, and waiting to connect to sources. This and the tightness of the back panel screws I discussed not far back in this thread are now my top suspects for the issue.

Despite the little bit of flashlight effect I'm now seeing around the edges, it has ZERO effect when a signal is being displayed. I've checked on scenes with full screen or near full screen solid colors, white and black, and there is no lighter/darker areas anywhere when a signal is being displayed. So my thoughts are leaning slightly more toward a software/settings issue versus the possibly physical issue with the back panel screws.

Not to drag this on forever, but another possibility could be the longer the display runs, the panel expands ever so slightly around the edges due to the edge lighting, leading to tighter squeeze in the panel and housing fasteners.
post #2459 of 3922
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Originally Posted by SeekerOne View Post

Not to drag this on forever,

Huh????? Please do drag this on forever. It's a problem that is bothering a lot of people, and there is as yet no clear solution.
post #2460 of 3922
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Originally Posted by Mayjer View Post

4.31 ( I think it is ) finally showed up and installed.
What is/where is the "engineer's update" ?

Anyone?
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